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Re: PGO Status

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 10:07 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 08:37 AM, T Golding wrote:
Shouldn't all these YG posts be on GMF there?  Might help other people who haven't migrated or aren't migrating.  It's yahoo not .io
To the extent that PGO is used as a means to migrate a group to groups.io, its status is very relevant. We have wiki entries that need to be updated on this.

As for incoming messages about how to post to a Yahoo Group, I agree with you.

Bruce
May I suggest that the Yahoo related questions have the topics flagged with a hashtag. I am having a hard time finding the forest (GIO issues) for the trees.
 
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Gerald

Re: BOUNCING

Frances
 

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:57 AM, Bill><> wrote:
I am regularly getting messages from GIO that I am bouncing.
I am the owner and moderator and cannot understand why this is routinely happening about every week?
 
Any ideas???
Bill, I see you are using rr.com and there is a message there about mail forwarding. Could that be the reason?

Frances
 
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Re: mbox upload - dates are missing #mbox #ioimportpl

Ingrid
 

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 03:55 PM, Lena wrote:

Download the memberlist.csv file again from Members - Download.

Yes, this was functioning. Thank you!


On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:30 PM, Andrea wrote:

Most times your new implementation works, we worked with it in the
meantime. But for a reason we do not understand this does not always
work, but only in about 50% of the messages.
  Your answer: 
  "What exactly doesn't work? I fixed a bug (a deleted message caused all next messages in a mbox file to be skipped)."

It's about the feature you had implemented which is writing "From" and "Date" in the beginning of the message.
In about 40% to 35% of messages this functions. In about 60% to 65%, there is neither a "From" nor a "Date". In these more than half of cases without "Date" I can't see any pattern. The appearence of „Date“ or no „Date“ seems to be absolutly random.
Have you any idea to solve this?

And there is another big problem: 
Sometimes one or the other message is not being uploaded. I did not care to much about that. But today the program imported a message from 27
th December and the next imported one was from 24th August of the following year. So it skipped more than 2000 messages!
And again there is no hint why the program would have done this. 
(Luckily I had made a subgroup for testing the program!)

I hope, you can help us!

Ingrid

Re: BOUNCING

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:57 AM, Bill><> wrote:
I am regularly getting messages from GIO that I am bouncing.
I am the owner and moderator and cannot understand why this is routinely happening about every week?
Looking at your email delivery history here in GMF, I see a lot of "blocked" and "server unavailable" errors. Past posts with the same complaint suggest this is typical behavior for spectrum/charter/rr...it's been reported over and over again. You could complain to Charter, as you are paying them to deliver emails to you, and they aren't holding up their end of the contract. But if you really want it to go away, your best bet is to get a gmail account or something like that. 

At least groups.io tells you what's going on. Yahoo Groups would just silently fail to deliver your stuff.

Bruce

BOUNCING

Bill><>
 

I am regularly getting messages from GIO that I am bouncing.
I am the owner and moderator and cannot understand why this is routinely happening about every week?
 
Any ideas???
 
Bill><>

Re: re deleting attachments

BMaverick
 

Thanks Bill.  Now that is a very helpful hint.

Re: PGO Status

BMaverick
 

Bruce,
 
Whilst grabbing the MESSAGES, FILES, PHOTOS or LINKS, PGO reports back this after the deleted content event on Monday  ...
 
"Yahoo servers appear to be offline or your IP has been temporarily locked out."
 
Now, I do believe the data is STILL THERE as YG is allowing folks to still request a DOWNLOAD before the end of January.  Just that the links are gone and not accessible via ACL permissions on the server.
 
And, like you had stated, it will grab the member listing. And more than the YG CSV limit of 1,000.
 
For non-owners and non-moderators, the member listing will only show the user name column and the email column is blank.
 
On one YG I'm a moderator on, the YG Management tool still shows the ability to manage PHOTOS for the albums.  I found this to be weird.  Almost as if YG support team missed something as the PHOTOS are now gone from our access. 

 

BMaverick

My two YGroups are now 'converted'!

Epicatt2
 

Good Morning All,

This morning just now when I checked the status of my two remaining YGroups (GMF being one of them) they have now been converted and there's no longer any access to the message archives, etc. Refreshing those two pages repeatedly did not get my two groups to load any user content.

What remains is the homepage for each one now stripped down to group title, text of group's description, and the Group Email addresses. Plus there is no masthead photo, just the YG generic one. So it now seems that Yahoo's dirty deed is finally 'fate(!) accompli'. . . .

BTW, I had always found it more practical for me to read the new messages online at the YGroups' sites and since I personally do not want email replies from these remaining two YGroups forceably cluttering my inbox I will prolly unsubscribe from them in a few more days.

My appreciation to the YG/GMF for all the help it afforded me over the years. I'll of course be staying on at the GIO version here.

Paul M.
CostaRicaLiving
https: //groups.io/g/CostaRicaLiving
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Re: Question about #cal-notice

Laurence Marks
 

Or simply move all events one day earlier.

Larry

Re: Invalid request, no reverse DNS for.... Not just an Outlook problem

Randall
 

Ever since Mark said he increased the timeout for reverse DNS lookups I have had ZERO problems with this issue. Prior to that it was one out of 3 or 4 emails that would bounce back. I would say, for the time being anyway, this SOLVED the problem of the "no reverse DNS error". Thank you Mark! 
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Re: moderation

Dirk Luebbers
 

check only "New Users Moderated" and set "Unmoderate After" to "1 approved message".

With that method the first post that a new member sends in will be held pending your approval. If you approve that message that's all you need to do. You do not need to take a separate action to unmoderate the member, that's handled by the mechanism.

This is the minimum effort possible: a single action that is needed only if and when the new member posts a message.

Thanks, Shal, (and, of course, Duane and Frances) for your reply. Yeah, this applies to my case, as there are very many email receivers and only few mail senders in my list.

/Dirk

Re: How do I change a member into an owner?

Frances
 

In the GMF wiki - there is a search box at thee top of the wiki page if you cannot find it through the table of contents.
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Promotion%2C-Status-or-Permissions-Change-to-Moderator-or-Owner

Be sure to read the caution in red.

Frances
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Re: How do I change a member into an owner?

Eric Johnson
 

Nevermind. I did find the solution. Guilty of reading the forms too quickly.

Eric

How do I change a member into an owner?

Eric Johnson
 

I think I've looked in all the obvious places but can't find it.

Eric

Re: re deleting attachments

Bill Burns
 

On 12/17/2019 9:01 AM, WBennett wrote:
turns out I have to hit Back 3 times but the message still shows in the list even though it has been deleted…
In most browsers, if you click and hold on the Back button it shows a dropdown list of previous screens, and you can then go directly to the one you want. More useful if you want to go back a long way, of course.

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Re: Getting members list. Was: Re: [GMF] My Yahoo Group already exists on groups.io

Harry
 

That Chrome application is sweet.  Exported everybody beautifully. THANK YOU!

Re: re deleting attachments

William Halte
 

Bring up your attachment list to where you wish to start the deletes.
Copy the screen command. 
Go ahead and do the delete. 
Right click and press "Paste and Go"

Bill Halte

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 7:05 AM WBennett <del13piero@...> wrote:

Thanks Bruce… turns out I have to hit Back 3 times but the message still shows in the list even though it has been deleted… I do about 5 that way then once I am back to the list, I hit the Refresh button and that removes the listing of the name from the Attachment list.

Long tedious process… once Mark has recovered from his marathon effort, maybe he will get round to being able to do a bulk delete of the attachments,  and the photos in the Emailed Photos listing…

 

From: GroupManagersForum@groups.io [mailto:GroupManagersForum@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman
Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2019 3:53 PM
To: GroupManagersForum@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GMF] re deleting attachments

 

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:52 AM, WBennett wrote:

Is there any way to get back automatically to the attachment list, without having to go through the process of Admin > Upgrade > etc

Hit the Back button on your browser a couple of times.

Bruce

Not Receiving Digests

Carter Schroy
 

Most of our members opt to receive the digest.  Starting last weekend (12/14/19) the individual mailings of posts went out as usual but the digests were not sent out that night.  As a group owner I have two subscriptions, one for individual messages and one for the digests and have just noticed this.  Has anyone else seen this?
#digests

Re: PGO Status

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 08:37 AM, T Golding wrote:
Shouldn't all these YG posts be on GMF there?  Might help other people who haven't migrated or aren't migrating.  It's yahoo not .io
To the extent that PGO is used as a means to migrate a group to groups.io, its status is very relevant. We have wiki entries that need to be updated on this.

As for incoming messages about how to post to a Yahoo Group, I agree with you.

Bruce

Re: re deleting attachments

WBennett
 

Thanks Bruce… turns out I have to hit Back 3 times but the message still shows in the list even though it has been deleted… I do about 5 that way then once I am back to the list, I hit the Refresh button and that removes the listing of the name from the Attachment list.

Long tedious process… once Mark has recovered from his marathon effort, maybe he will get round to being able to do a bulk delete of the attachments,  and the photos in the Emailed Photos listing…

 

From: GroupManagersForum@groups.io [mailto:GroupManagersForum@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman
Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2019 3:53 PM
To: GroupManagersForum@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GMF] re deleting attachments

 

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:52 AM, WBennett wrote:

Is there any way to get back automatically to the attachment list, without having to go through the process of Admin > Upgrade > etc

Hit the Back button on your browser a couple of times.

Bruce