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Re: Automatic Unsubscribes?

Patty Sliney
 

<<(Yahoo Groups gave mods that option, to send via the group email
address, or your personal email address).
Groups.io does too. I don't have a Premium group to test with, but one could probably generate the message you're after to those in the "prior" members list (whatever it is called). Except for the resume link - that would be a new feature.>>


Shal, that I know, on an individual message.  What I would like to do, is send a group message to all unsubbed people at once, using my own email address.  However, if ISP's can still detect that the origin is really coming from groups.io, and no my email service, then that feature is basically worthless.  Really, the only way we could reach those unsubbed list members reliably then, is to email them each, individually, from our own email program.  So, that's not going to happen.  We'll just have to rely on those unsubbed members to figure out they are unsubbed, and either reapply, or hopefully find the auto reinstate email, and click on the link provided (which is very unlikely, as it's probably landed in the Spam/Junk folder since the person has now marked groups.io emails as spam.) 

Not sure I like this feature because it makes for a lot of work for list mods to try to re-capture those list members.  You would think you'd know you were unsubbed, but I  have 2 pages of list members who were unsubbed, and no one has asked the list mods, "what happened to me?"  Maybe it's due to a large number of transferred list members who were basically inactive prior to the transfer, and now are not understanding why they were receiving these new groups.io messages?  Not sure, just speculating at this point.  But, it is a bit concerning for me that I have so many unsubbed list members in such a short time period. 


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Re: User deleting own post

Robert Schechter
 

 

 

On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 08:09 pm, Kleibe J wrote:

This is already set. But the member still can delete his own post.

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IMHO, the creative right of a post should still remain with the author. The author should be able to self correct, or delete, their post.

Bob

 


Re: User deleting own post

Bruce Bowman
 

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 06:02 am, Kleibe J wrote:
I would like the option to block deleting own post existed...
It sounds like this subscriber wants his emails to go out to the list but wants no permanent record of it. We have had a few group owners here suggest this same behavior as a group setting; in that all message delivery would be by email with no online reading of the archive available.

Perhaps if your group archives were private (available to subscribers only) he would be more compliant?

I'll try to figure out how to live with it. lol
I'd kindly remind him that you establish the group rules and you will use your moderator role to enforce them if necessary.

Hope this helps,
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Re: Error message at retrying yahoo transfer #transfer #yahoo #issue

Bruce Bowman
 

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 05:31 am, Heijo Alting wrote:
The error message on entering the yahoogroup name (a valid name of an existing group) was:That is not a valid Yahoo Group.
Enter just the group name, not the domain information. See https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/message/8697

Hope this helps,
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Re: Sending Nofications and email from a Main Group to Subgroups

Patty Fletcher
 

I think they want to send a notification to all groups at once.
Since you wouldn't reach the sub group by emailing just the main group it seems to me you'd have to include all addresses to send out that notification.

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Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 9:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [GMF] Sending Nofications and email from a Main Group to Subgroups

On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 07:42 pm, <jroberts1@...> wrote:

Is there a way to where you are in a main group and you have say three
sub groups and you want to notify or email from to all four from your main group?
Since a person must be in the Main group to be in a subgroup, it seems that just emailing the main group would include all 4 (the main and the 3 subs).

If you just want to email a couple of subgroups (not the main group), assuming that YOU are a member of the subgroups, you can address an email with both addresses - just like you were sending to 2 different people.

Or maybe I am misunderstanding the question.

Barb


Re: User deleting own post

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:04 pm, Gerald Boutin wrote:
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 08:09 pm, Kleibe J wrote:
Bruce
Thank you. This is already set. But the member still can delete his own post.
 
This member post on the list. After while he deletes his post. I dont understand why his behavior but I want to not allow this to happen. I want to keep all messages there.
 
Kleibe
 
Kleibe,

If the user has Owner or Moderator privileges they may still be able to delete messages even if this setting is set. The setting is for ordinary members.
 
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Kliebe,

I stand corrected.

I did some more testing to actually verify this and I confirm that even if editing messages for ordinary members is disabled, the option to delete posts is still available to the member that made the post.
 
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Re: Automatic Unsubscribes?

Bruce Bowman
 

On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 09:57 pm, Patty Sliney wrote:
If we had the ability to send a group email to all unsubbed list members and use our private email address, versus the group email address (Yahoo Groups gave mods that option, to send via the group email address, or your personal email address).  That way, again, the message would have a much better chance of landing in their Inbox folder.  Just a thought. 
In Premium groups, there is an option to look at Past Members. You can sort that list by the Reason field to get all the "SPAM left" folks and with some cut-and-paste (perhaps into a spreadsheet) prepare a list that way. 

You can't use the GIO interface to message them as you can for active members, although as Shal mentioned it may be preferable to avoid doing that anyway. I do have a special notice on this topic prepared and it is somewhat frustrating to have to wait for folks to resub before I can send it.

Hope this helps,
Bruce 
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Re: Sending Nofications and email from a Main Group to Subgroups

Barb M
 

On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 07:42 pm, <jroberts1@...> wrote:

Is there a way to where you are in a main group and you have say three sub
groups and you want to notify or email from to all four from your main group?
Since a person must be in the Main group to be in a subgroup, it seems that just emailing the main group would include all 4 (the main and the 3 subs).

If you just want to email a couple of subgroups (not the main group), assuming that YOU are a member of the subgroups, you can address an email with both addresses - just like you were sending to 2 different people.

Or maybe I am misunderstanding the question.

Barb


Re: Message Time Zones #timezone

Duane
 

I think this is a side effect of the new date/time formatting.  I  tried it on another group that uses a different time zone and have the same situation.  According to the Settings page, the group setting for Default Timezone should be "Used for displaying dates on the website.", unless changed by a member, so I'd think it would apply here as well.  It seems to be a bug that slipped in, so I'd report it in the thread https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/22531517.  Normally it should go to support@groups.io, but since this is a 'new' feature, I don't think it would be a problem to use the thread.

Duane
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Re: User deleting own post

Patty Fletcher
 

I personally would tell that user either knock it off or be removed.

 

 

From: GroupManagersForum@groups.io <GroupManagersForum@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 11:12 PM
To: GroupManagersForum@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GMF] User deleting own post

 

On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 08:09 pm, Kleibe J wrote:

This is already set. But the member still can delete his own post.

Okay, that's news to me. Hopefully someone else can help.

Bruce 
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Re: User deleting own post

Kleibe PP2KR
 

Thank you for all replies.
I would like the option to block deleting own post existed...
 
I'll try to figure out how to live with it. lol
 
Kleibe

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 2:09 AM, <dgrass1@...> wrote:

Maybe you can explain to them you do not want posts deleted, except if they are really awful posts, and if they keep on deleting their posts delete them.

 

Don


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Error message at retrying yahoo transfer #transfer #yahoo #issue

Heijo Alting
 

Dear all,

A couple of weeks ago I aborted my first attempt to move a yahoogroup to io because nothing seemed to happen. Now, with my second attempt, on entering the same yahoogroup name as in the first attempt, I'm confronted with an error message. What can I do to solve this. Does someone at io have to 'reset' something before I can start again? The error message on entering the yahoogroup name (a valid name of an existing group) was:That is not a valid Yahoo Group.


Re: Message Time Zones #timezone

Chris Jones
 

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 01:23 am, Jack - GM4COX wrote:
the header of the blockquote as well as showing the originator shows the time in Pacific time
I have been meaning to raise this for a few days. I am as certain as I can be that this feature used to work fine, but it certainly doesn't at the moment.

Like Jack I am in the UK, and his message is logged at 09:23 UK time, but in the !quote" above his message time is given as 01:23... exactly 8 hours different as Jack reported.

As far as I can see it isn't a question of "Settings" being out of kilter, so it may be better to report it on beta, but before I do I would be keen to know if anyone else is seeing this, and has perhaps reported it themselves.

Chris


Re: Message Time Zones #timezone

Jack - GM4COX
 

On a similar vain. It appears that when you 'blockquote' in your reply from an existing message, the header of the blockquote as well as showing the originator shows the time in Pacific time?, even though tour Site is set for UTC (GMT+1). All messages show the correct time. Is there something I need to set-up to overcome this?

Thanks
Jack(;>J


Re: Automatic Unsubscribes?

 

Patty,

If we had the ability to send a group email to all unsubbed list
members and use our private email address, versus the group email
address ... That way, again, the message would have a much better
chance of landing in their Inbox folder.
Maybe. Groups.io could forge your address into the From field, but the receiving service can detect that the message did not in fact originate with your email provider. That can make such a message much less likely to be delivered than one that actually did originate at your service, and possibly less likely than one from Groups.io that has Groups.io in the From address.

(Yahoo Groups gave mods that option, to send via the group email
address, or your personal email address).
Groups.io does too. I don't have a Premium group to test with, but one could probably generate the message you're after to those in the "prior" members list (whatever it is called). Except for the resume link - that would be a new feature.

Shal


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Re: User deleting own post

Don Grass
 

Maybe you can explain to them you do not want posts deleted, except if they are really awful posts, and if they keep on deleting their posts delete them.

 

Don

 

From: GroupManagersForum@groups.io <GroupManagersForum@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Boutin
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 9:01 PM
To: GroupManagersForum@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GMF] User deleting own post

 

 

Kleibe,

If the user has Owner or Moderator privileges they may still be able to delete messages even if this setting is set. The setting is for ordinary members.
 
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Re: User deleting own post

 

Kleibe,

I manage a group and have a question. How can I disable members to
delete their own post?
There is no ability to prevent a member from deleting their own content (posts, files, photos, etc.) - except gentle persuasion. That's by design.

Shal


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Re: User deleting own post

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 08:09 pm, Kleibe J wrote:
Bruce
Thank you. This is already set. But the member still can delete his own post.
 
This member post on the list. After while he deletes his post. I dont understand why his behavior but I want to not allow this to happen. I want to keep all messages there.
 
Kleibe
 
Kleibe,

If the user has Owner or Moderator privileges they may still be able to delete messages even if this setting is set. The setting is for ordinary members.
 
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Re: User deleting own post

Michael Chopra
 

 Hi. What you can also do, is go to that member and questions page and set the option that says that the person is not allowed to post. This means that the member will not be allowed to  post to your group.
Thanks.
From Michael.  
 



On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 3:09 PM +1200, "Kleibe J" <kleibe@...> wrote:

Bruce
Thank you. This is already set. But the member still can delete his own post.
 
This member post on the list. After while he deletes his post. I dont understand why his behavior but I want to not allow this to happen. I want to keep all messages there.
 
Kleibe

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Re: Members Unable to Post to Group

Bruce Bowman
 

On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 07:49 pm, Glenn Glazer wrote:
To quibble, though, that's a pun on "file".  The EOF at the end of a Hollerith deck was to indicate that the program ended there, not a file that the program was reading.  That is, the punch card EOF is code EOF, the C style EOF is data.
Per K&R, EOF is an INTEGER, as returned from a function call trying to read a data stream. It is traditionally -1. 

It is neither a character nor a data terminator.

Back in the 70s when I first began doing computer programming, Hollerith cards used a string of 9s as an end-of-data indicator.

I apologize to all for continuing this off-topic thread and only do so with the hope of putting an end to it.

Thanks,
Bruce 
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