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Re: Who can see all pages of Directory?

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:30 am, Elizabeth O'Sullivan wrote:
Although I can see the entire directory of members in my group, others say they can only see the first page of names.
The Directory is an index of subscriber profiles. For a subscriber to appear, (s)he first has to create a group profile and then share it with the other subscribers. See Subscription->Group Profile->Edit Group Profile->Profile Privacy.

As group owner, you will see member information here regardless of whether those subscribers have "opted in."

Hope this helps,
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Re: Who can see all pages of Directory?

Frances
 

Elizabeth, there are two places with group member names - one that is complete (members in the Admin area) and Directory. Not everyone may be in the Directory - you can opt out. For example on this forum, only 187 of 864 Members are in the directory.
Both operate the same way - on a laptop, both have pagination at the bottom of the page.

Frances


Re: Who can see all pages of Directory?

 

Elizabeth,

Although I can see the entire directory of members in my group, others say they can only see the first page of names.

That's likely correct. Mods and Owners can see all members in the directory. Members can see only those other members who've chosen to make their profile visible to other members (or to the public). The members can edit their visibility in the Group Profile tab of their Subscription page.
 
Is there everyone in the group can see the entire directory?
 
The other option is to make the Members list visible to members. But that list includes email addresses, join date, and other info that most groups don't want to be shared. I would only recommend this in Restricted membership groups where the members know each other well and would be ok with sharing this info.

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Re: Third Party Relay

 

vglockwood,

Does your platform allow us to set up a 3rd party outbound relay for the emails to our group?

Could you explain what that is?
 
If you want group messages forwarded to an external list (relay) that might be tricky to get past the address confirmation stage, unless your group upgrades to Premium and uses the Direct Add feature.

If you want messages from an external list (relay) to be posted into your group you probably need to use an email integration, and add the integration address as a recipient to the external list.

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Who can see all pages of Directory?

Elizabeth O'Sullivan <eosullivan130@...>
 

Although I can see the entire directory of members in my group, others say they can only see the first page of names. Is this a feature only available to group owners/subscribers? Is there everyone in the group can see the entire directory?


Re: "NC" tag on member list

Shafee Howard Ballinger
 

Never mind -- I found a whole bunch of posts on this topic on the groups.io site. All is well.


On 5/18/2018 7:24 AM, Shafee Howard Ballinger wrote:

Hello, one of our members is tagged "NC", Not Confirmed. Does that mean the member needs to do something? Or the moderator?

Thanks  -- Howard Ballinger



Re: "NC" tag on member list

Duane
 

It's waiting on input from the member.  See the thread https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/19246621

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Re: "NC" tag on member list

Leeni
 

I was wondering the same thing about one of my members. I scrolled down to the bottom and it said in blue send confirmation email. I clicked on it and it still has NC in the membership roster.
 
Hugs, Ilene 
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 5/18/2018 11:27:57 AM
Subject: [GMF] "NC" tag on member list
 

Hello, one of our members is tagged "NC", Not Confirmed. Does that mean the member needs to do something? Or the moderator?

Thanks  -- Howard Ballinger

 


Re: #poll results incorrect? #poll #bug

Southenders Admin
 

Thanks, Duane. Infinite Scroll doesn't work. Instead, it just gives a false sense of security. I changed back to 100 per page.
If I wanted to use Infinite Scroll, or if I were just one of my members (who wouldn't bother with their preference settings), I would have to reply to all those who voted for choice one of my poll by emailing those who show on page one, and those who show on page 2, of the 25 members who voted that way. 

I've reported this as a bug to beta. 
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Third Party Relay

Ginny Lockwood
 

Does your platform allow us to set up a 3rd party outbound relay for the emails to our group?  We have great success with our relay partner but want to use your other features.


"NC" tag on member list

Shafee Howard Ballinger
 

Hello, one of our members is tagged "NC", Not Confirmed. Does that mean the member needs to do something? Or the moderator?

Thanks  -- Howard Ballinger


Re: Time zone #calendar

Hans Bößl
 

Hi Duane,

 

it really works!
I had selected this time zone in general, but when I saw that it is UTC+1 h I changed it to a time zone with “+2h”

 

Wrong assumption…

 

Many thanks

 

Hans

 

Von: GroupManagersForum@groups.io <GroupManagersForum@groups.io> Im Auftrag von Duane
Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Mai 2018 14:30
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Betreff: Re: [GMF] Time zone #calendar

 

There are several choices for UTC+1.  You'd need to find one that observes summer time and choose it so that times would be correct.  I believe that the first of those listed, "(UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna", will work.

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Re: Time zone #calendar

Hans Bößl
 

Hi Duane,

 

thank you for the answer!

I’ll try it immediately.

 

BR Hans

 

Von: GroupManagersForum@groups.io <GroupManagersForum@groups.io> Im Auftrag von Duane
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Betreff: Re: [GMF] Time zone #calendar

 

There are several choices for UTC+1.  You'd need to find one that observes summer time and choose it so that times would be correct.  I believe that the first of those listed, "(UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna", will work.

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Re: Time zone #calendar

Hans Bößl
 

Hi Victoria,

 

thank you for the answer, but I already tried to outfox the “calender” with this trick, but it didn’t help.

I think, that an extra option or an automatic detection will be needed.

 

BR Hans

 

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Betreff: Re: [GMF] Time zone #calendar

 

Hans,

 

I think you can find this in the calendar feature. Scrolling all the way down on the right you find “time zone”, and there also is “UTC + 2”.

 

Greetings from Cologne, Germany

 

Victoria


Re: Time zone #calendar

Duane
 

There are several choices for UTC+1.  You'd need to find one that observes summer time and choose it so that times would be correct.  I believe that the first of those listed, "(UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna", will work.

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Re: Time zone #calendar

 

Hans,

 

I think you can find this in the calendar feature. Scrolling all the way down on the right you find “time zone”, and there also is “UTC + 2”.

 

Greetings from Cologne, Germany

 

Victoria


Time zone #calendar

Hans Bößl
 

Hallo all,

maybe I'm just too silly, but I hav not yet found an option to set the MESZ (middle european summer time = UTC +2h) which 
would be needed to send out invitations to the team correct.

Any suggestion or is it still a bug?

Thanks a lot in advance for any help!

BR Hans


Re: three yahoo groups to one GIO group? #subgroups #transfer #yahoo

 

Roy,

That's how I was planning to organize it. I was mainly asking about transferring the Yahoogroups, with each groups' files/archive/etc.  Can it be done properly and automatically, or will I have to do anything special, or what, without scrambling/overwriting ?

The only thing special about transferring a Yahoo Group into a subgroup is that the Members of the Y!Group will be copied to both the subgroup and its primary group (except when a particular member's email address is already in the primary group).

With that in mind I'd recommend performing the transfer of the primary group first, so that those memberships get copied from the main Yahoo Group. That will copy their Join Date, Email Delivery preferences, and Posting Privileges from primary Yahoo Group. If the subgroup were transferred first I'm not sure that would happen, I think those individuals would end up with default settings in the primary groups.io group.

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Re: Is there a way to force "via groups.io"? #issue

 

Pete,

Not true. While -some- email servers use the envelope-From in SPF validation, -all- Exchange servers (most enterprise and business servers including Office 365) use the actual from address as well since this is a common form of spoofing.

Perhaps read "-some-" email servers as every email service other than those powered by Microsoft Exchange.

I guess that explains our disparate perceptions: I'd have to guess that the vast majority of the members of groups I've moderated (and the groups those members have moderated) have been consumer users, with mailboxes provided by Google, Yahoo Mail, AOL, and others not based on Exchange. For these services I've only seen aligning the header-From with the envelope-From in conjunction with DMARC.

So I had been unaware that there was an ongoing deliverability problem with Exchange-powered mailbox providers, if Mark mentioned that earlier I must have missed it. But that's where my perception that you were talking about a fringe case came from.

I realize you don't like or have experience with Microsoft Exchange or its common deployment (it also does not directly implement DMARC), but it is the most used enterprise and business mail server.

You are correct that I don't have much experience with Exchange. I don't really have a like or dislike opinion of it, the one Exchange-based email address I have is a PITA to use, but I believe that's mostly a matter of security choices made by my client. Example: no IMAP/SMTP access, I have to use their webmail interface.

Oh, and I'm not subscribed to any email lists via that address - so I've had no exposure to whatever issues that might entail.
 
BTW, Yahoo has always supported having groups show the From as being the group, not the user so it would pass server tests that the from is not improperly originating from a non-domain-owned mail server.

Unless you mean the option to hide one's email and IP addresses, I've never heard of such a thing. Before that 2014 Yahoo Groups blog post I cited, all header-from addresses passed through Yahoo Groups unaltered -- as stated in the blog post. I have ten years of examples (2003 to 2013) from various Yahoo Groups consistent with that behavior.
 
I guess I need to open this over on the beta group.  Thank you for letting me know where to go with this issue.

You're welcome. All-in-all I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner when you said "crickets".

Shal


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Re: Timeline for group transfers

Leeni
 

I manually set up my IO group and set the wheels in motion for the group transfer to happen.
I sent invites to all the members in my Yahoo Group and then when the Yahoo Groups started working again, 2 days later, I sent an note to the group telling them we are moving. At least IO group is working and we can wait until the transfer happens whenever.
 
Ilene
 
 
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
From: dash
Date: 5/17/2018 8:57:45 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Timeline for group transfers
 

I think it just takes awhile.  I have about 2-3 groups waiting.  I just had one transferred a few days ago, had waited for weeks.  The others were all done by me same day.  I am just patiently waiting. dash

 

 

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