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Re: European Date Format & 24hr Clock #calendar

Glen - G0SBN <g0sbn@...>
 

Even the big guys (and I'm not saying Groups.io isn't) like Microsoft make a mess of this. We're using Office365 across thousands of business users and the date format flip flops between US, UK, and Algerian depending on user locale settings and if using online or local installation of Excel...Absolute nightmare, we defaulted to writing dates in abbreviated full i.e. 12 Jan 18 so software doesn't see it as 1st December when entering 12/1/18

Just setup a Database in Groups.io and noticed it was US even though the locale is GMT whoops UTC (yet another standard) :-)

Regards
Glen


Re: Invitations to join

Duane
 

Another tidbit I just discovered.  There was a group created on Groups.io about 4 hours ago.  I did a search online, by exact name, and it came up as the 2nd or 3rd result, depending on the search engine.  Having the group listed in the Groups.io directory seems to update the search engines fairly quickly.

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Re: Invitations to join

Bruce Bowman
 

>> I think what the person was talking about, was a way to promote their URL the old fashion way.

I've been webmastering for almost 30 years. Back then, search sites such as Google (and Yahoo) used to have "promote" links where you could submit the URL of your page to get your stuff into their engine. Today I think they all spider the web themselves and no longer accept that kind of thing...probably because of the proliferation of phishing sites over the past 5 years.

I think the best you can do is paste the html found on the Promote page here into your web site and hope the spiders eventually find it.

Bruce


Re: Moving topics to sub-groups #subgroups

Glen - G0SBN <g0sbn@...>
 

Thanks for the update Duane. I tried split and merge but as you'll be aware it only works within a Group not across Main and Sub-Groups.

Best Regards
Glen


Re: Invitations to join

Duane
 

The Promote page also has code that can be added to a web site, including a preview of what it will look like.

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Re: Continuity of IO

Stan Gorodenski
 

Thanks for the links, Duane. With respect to the second one, I read where on group owner said he had gotten a 404 error and was wondering why because it seemed his other internet accesses were working. When I read this my first thought was that the server groups.io is on was shut down for some reason. Could that be it?

I also noted in reading the responses that Mark suggested sending questions to support(at)groups.io. Is this still a viable option? Instead of having re-raised the issue here of continuity, it appears I could have sent my concerns to support. Correct?
Stan

On 3/4/2018 7:55 AM, Duane wrote:
It may not change anyone's opinion, but have a look at https://wingedpig.com/category/groups-io/, especially https://wingedpig.com/2014/09/23/introducing-groups-io/ and the comments below it.

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Re: Invitations to join

Don Grass
 

I think what the person was talking about, was a way to promote their URL the old fashion way. There used to be actual sites a person could go to, where they would fill out a form with their sites URL, name of the site, and short description. It took maybe a few days to a week for the new site to be recognized by some kind of bot (I don’t remember how that actually worked), and then the site could be found when doing a search on the internet. The Promote in Group.io does not work like the old way, as it only lets the site be promoted on FB and Tweeter.

 

Don

 

From: GroupManagersForum@groups.io <GroupManagersForum@groups.io> On Behalf Of Duane
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Go to Admin > Promote for information on adding an invitation to your site.

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Re: Start to Finish Message Transfer

David Grimm
 

In our case, the archived messages (~150,000) were transferred about 3 days after everything else transferred. I happened to notice it while it was happening, and it threw me for a bit of a loop. (See this thread https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/message/5450). And it was fascinating to watch the home page of the group as they were transferring as the numbers kept changing over the several hours it took to transfer all the messages.

This answer won't speed things up or answer your members' questions, but it should soothe your nerves a bit to know you aren't the only one! And like another post in this thread indicates, we got a nicely detailed email from the transfer agent a VERY soon after the last message transferred explaining exactly what did and did not transfer during the process and why.

Dave


Re: How do I make message or file repeat

Lyn C
 

Thank you so much for reading my post an helping with my question.  This has been the best experience ever.  I have switched most of my groups over to IO and my members are so far loving it.

Lyn


Re: Continuity of IO

Arno Martens
 

I get it also. I understand most of the member's thoughts now. Not what I had expected, though. As far as why it should be a topic here? I think it is very appropriate here and it has reached a certain limit to only those who's mind has been made up long ago. To some of us new to IO it is still a topic of concern.
Some of my groups changed, some didn't.
It doesen't matter how often the subject is rephrased, unless you can guarantee that you will still be alive the day after tomorrow, you are flogging a dead horse.


Re: Moving topics to sub-groups #subgroups

Duane
 

I don't think this is currently possible, but is on the TODO list.  Over a year ago, Mark wrote (in beta), "Moving threads between subgroups is on the todo list and definitely something I want to happen sooner rather than later."

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Re: Continuity of IO

Duane
 

It may not change anyone's opinion, but have a look at https://wingedpig.com/category/groups-io/, especially https://wingedpig.com/2014/09/23/introducing-groups-io/ and the comments below it.

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Re: List member permanently moderated status

J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...>
 

This is a big problem. I helped a group with several thousand members transfer over and they wound up with the same issue. I petitioned Mark to do some sort of bulk operation to switch them all over, but he was unable to do that. I had to go through and switch everybody one by one. I would suggest to him on beta that he improve the transfer process by allowing an option to "make moderated members NuM" for an NuM group. I may already have suggested this to him, but if I did, it was not on beta. I think someone needs to suggest this.

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 7:52 PM, SP4149 <ken@...> wrote:

All,

I have transferred five lists this year; the last was the most challenging.  On the old list, new members were moderated until they had one post approved, supposedly.  Instead YG had changed hundreds of list members to Override-moderated and as such they were profiled on groups.io  None were transferred as new members moderated until approval of one post.  At this point I can just leave them permanently moderated or I can change them to default group.  I would really like to be able to moderate them the same as new members, until one approved post.  I'm helping out and was not a list member prior to the transfer, but although the list owners said new members were automatically moderated until the first approved post, that information did not show on the YG list membership or the new membership on groups.io

ken

"It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success."  Steinbeck - Cannery Row

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Moving topics to sub-groups #subgroups

Glen - G0SBN <g0sbn@...>
 

Hi

How, if is is possible, do I migrate previous topics/messages in our group to a newly created sub-group ?

Glen


Re: Number of Groups.io Members

Duane
 

The latest I've found: visible groups - 4927, Poster ID - 1,747,644

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Re: Invitations to join

Frances
 

Hi Mike,

Can’t you post your "subscribe to" email address on a website?
The email address appears on the homepage of your group.
• Subscribe: xxxx+subscribe@groups.io

Frances


Re: List member permanently moderated status

Duane
 

I suspect there may a difference in understanding.  Have you checked the actual settings of one of the accounts in question on the Y!G?  I was on a group where everyone was moderated until after the first post, but it was all handled manually by the owner, rather than use the available functions.  You could change everyone that is M to NuM using the Members page and the Action box, but you'd need to be sure that no one was supposed to be M for some reason.

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Re: Deleting single photo from album

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Re: Invitations to join

Duane
 

Go to Admin > Promote for information on adding an invitation to your site.

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List member permanently moderated status

SP4149
 

All,

I have transferred five lists this year; the last was the most challenging.  On the old list, new members were moderated until they had one post approved, supposedly.  Instead YG had changed hundreds of list members to Override-moderated and as such they were profiled on groups.io  None were transferred as new members moderated until approval of one post.  At this point I can just leave them permanently moderated or I can change them to default group.  I would really like to be able to moderate them the same as new members, until one approved post.  I'm helping out and was not a list member prior to the transfer, but although the list owners said new members were automatically moderated until the first approved post, that information did not show on the YG list membership or the new membership on groups.io

ken

"It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success."  Steinbeck - Cannery Row

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