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Re: Mailing list from a database

Peter Rawbone
 

PS.  I should have said the mod uses Outlook.  I don’t!
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Re: Mailing list from a database

Peter Rawbone
 

Thanks Christie’s for you prompt reply.

Unfortunately we’re not computer savvy and have no idea how to write a via script.  Any ideas?
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Peter


Re: Possible Downgrade to basic from Premium

John Pearce
 

Thank you Francis, no I had not.  I did do some searches not sure why I missed it.  I am confused regarding something on that PDF.  It says premium groups created by Oct 22 2020 are $110.  Should that be Oct 2019?  Our group was created 11/9/2019 and we paid $220 at that time and the billing page says 220 for our next payment.

John P

[Moderator note: Groan...I'll fix that, too (sheepish grin)]


Re: Strange thing happened with a Group reply - any ideas how this could have happened? #bug

Nivard Ovington
 

Hi Stan

Firstly, no I have not noticed the problem you describe

However, when did you post the question with three to five replies you did not receive?

Searching this groups messages I do not see a recent message from you


Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 25/10/2020 15:40, Stan Gorodenski wrote:
Related to this, have some in this group experienced not having received emails of a post in this group? I had emailed a question to this group but do not recall ever having received subsequent posts of that topic, and there probably were 3-5 of them. Maybe I just did not realize the messages for what they were and deleted them. That is always a possibility. Or it may be a problem with my IP. Each morning I have to check their spam folder to release messages, and in the past I have never received messages I should have or they have come through a week or two later. If no one else has experienced this then it must be my mistake or maybe a problem with my IP.
Stan


Re: FAQ re: Prospective Members/Restricted Group

Bruce Bowman
 

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 01:04 PM, Bill Tracy wrote:
Is there a way allow future prospective members to receive the email/message trail from the group? 
Bill -- Yes, but it's a little complicated.

Open the Message Policies tab in your group settings. There's a checkbox in there that says "Allow Members to Download Archive." Check that box and click Update Group.

Having done so, the Messages page in your group will now have an "Export Group Data" button at the top. Members can click on that to receive all the messages as a ZIP archive. These messages are in mbox format (Unix mailbox) and may be opened with any mail reader that can handle that format. Apple Mail, Windows 10 Mail and Thunderbird (with the importexporttools add-on) have all been reported to work.

See https://groups.io/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/working-with-group-messages/downloading-a-group-s-message-archive for more details.

Regards,
Bruce

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Re: FAQ re: Prospective Members/Restricted Group

 

Bill,

>>> Is there a way allow future prospective members to receive the email/message trail from the group?

Not as far as I know, but you can do it in a roundabout way using email forwarding; this should work but I did not test it.

1. Create a generic/utility account on gmail or wherever and name it accordingly, maybe ProspectiveMembers@... r somethign like that so it can be obvious to the receivers.
2. Subscribe it to the group, setting it to Single-All delivery.
3. Set it to forward any incoming email (from only the group), to the prospective members as BCC, with you as the TO field.
4. They will then receive the group emails (which are addressed to ProspectiveMembers@...), so if one of them replies, since their address is now on the FROM field, it should go to group but end up in the pending queue*** since they are not members yet, so you'll be able to see their reply and do whatever you want with it. (*** you'd have to set "Allow Nonmembers to Post" to ON for this to work, if you want them to be able to reply, otherwise if they do with that setting OFF, their reply will get rejected)
5. When one of those members does join after all, or is not interested anymore, just remove their address from the forwarding list.
6. If you do this setup, also create an inbox rule to automatically delete old group messages after a certain timeframe to keep things tidy.

If you do try/tweak this and it works, please let us know how it goes.

Cheers,
Christos


Re: Mailing list from a database

 

If you can export the databases to Excel or Access files, or copy and paste into blank XLS/MDB documents, you could then write a quick VBA script to do it in one step.

Cheers,
Christos


Re: FAQ re: Prospective Members/Restricted Group

Chris Jones
 

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 05:04 PM, Bill Tracy wrote:
Is there a way allow future prospective members to receive the email/message trail from the group? 
Emails no, message trail yes. Assuming, that is, that your group has its message archive publicly visible; if it isn't then you cannot make it visible now. Making the message archive private is a one - time decision that cannot be reversed.

Also... is your group in the publicly visible directory? If not, then prospective members are unlikely to find it.

Chris


Mailing list from a database

Peter Rawbone
 

I rather suspect I know the answer but a co-moderator has asked this and I said I’d try to find out, so:

In some of our databases, we have a column entitled ‘Email address’.  The co-mod would like to create a list of all the email addresses and send messages using the list.  The obvious answer is to copy and paste but can this somewhat lengthy process be automated?

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Peter


FAQ re: Prospective Members/Restricted Group

Bill Tracy <BillTracy3@...>
 

We have a community organization with Groups.io membership restricted to actual members.
Is there a way allow future prospective members to receive the email/message trail from the group? 
Bill


Re: Can you repost a poll?

Bruce Bowman
 

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 12:54 PM, John Russell wrote:
I checked the Actviity Log and found no entries. Do you see entries in the Activty Log?
Yes. It shows as "edited message #xxxxx"

Just to clarify. I did not change the question as that would invalidated the votes already received.
In that case I would have to close the Poll and start again.
I don't see why that would be a problem, if you were reasonably careful. Try adding an extra space somewhere.

I only edited the information which appears before the question, just to add the deadline for voting, which I forgot when I created the Poll. It seemed the ideal way to do this was to edit the orignal message and click on Update.
There are only three fields -- the Subject line, the Poll question, and the Answers.

Changing the subject line will not cause a new message to go out. More generally, changing the subject does not do what you think it does. A subject line is a function of a topic, not a message. If you really want to do that you have to click on the Topic Properties button. 

I found a workaround, so now I will just send it to support to see if Mark knows why this did not work.
If you want to issue a bug report, ask why the subject line is an editable field on the "Edit Poll" screen when changing it doesn't really do anything.

Regards,
Bruce

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Re: Strange thing happened with a Group reply - any ideas how this could have happened? #bug

Chris Jones
 

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 04:40 PM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:
If you know it's spam, delete the message/thread asap so it doesn't propagate and cause potential downstream problems
I think it was about spam rather than being spam itself..

Chris


Re: Can you repost a poll?

John Russell
 

Hi Bruce,

I did check with one member of the group and he did not receive anything. I checked the Actviity Log and found no entries. Do you see entries in the Activty Log?

Just to clarify. I did not change the question as that would invalidated the votes already received. In that case I would have to close the Poll and start again. I only edited the information which appears before the question, just to add the deadline for voting, which I forgot when I created the Poll. It seemed the ideal way to do this was to edit the orignal message and click on Update.

I found a workaround, so now I will just send it to support to see if Mark knows why this did not work.

Regards
John


Re: Strange thing happened with a Group reply - any ideas how this could have happened? #bug

 

Jane,

no clue what may have happened, but just curious,

On 2020-10-25 10:56, Jane Valencia via groups.io wrote:
Hi, we had a strange occurrence on our list. In replying to a thread about a wedding email scam (where scammers are emailing performers to play for a fake wedding), one of our members had this experience:

Why are you allowing a thread like that to post to / stay in the group archives?  If you know it's spam, delete the message/thread asap so it doesn't propagate and cause potential downstream problems.

Cheers,
Christos


Re: Strange thing happened with a Group reply - any ideas how this could have happened? #bug

Chris Jones
 

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 03:56 PM, Stan Gorodenski wrote:
Related to this, have some in this group experienced not having received emails of a post in this group?
This post of mine on beta may describe the source of the problem.

Chris


Re: Possible Downgrade to basic from Premium

Frances
 

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 11:55 AM, John Pearce wrote:
I did see that page under billing in settings.  So we would still have everything marked "legacy", it's just that we would have less storage space for photos, files, polls, calendar, etc?
Did you see the new File uploaded by Bruce?
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/files/Groups.io%20features%20%28includes%20legacy%20stuff%29.pdf

Frances
 
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Re: Strange thing happened with a Group reply - any ideas how this could have happened? #bug

Stan Gorodenski
 

Related to this, have some in this group experienced not having received emails of a post in this group? I had emailed a question to this group but do not recall ever having received subsequent posts of that topic, and there probably were 3-5 of them. Maybe I just did not realize the messages for what they were and deleted them. That is always a possibility. Or it may be a problem with my IP. Each morning I have to check their spam folder to release messages, and in the past I have never received messages I should have or they have come through a week or two later. If no one else has experienced this then it must be my mistake or maybe a problem with my IP.
Stan

On 10/25/2020 7:56 AM, Jane Valencia wrote:
Hi, we had a strange occurrence on our list. In replying to a thread about a wedding email scam (where scammers are emailing performers to play for a fake wedding), one of our members had this experience:

"I replied to the wedding scam post by hitting "reply to group", and a strange thing happened. It sent to our list address and to the sender of the message [both addresses are quoted and correct]
BUT it never posted, and instead I got an email from someone named [name quoted] at a completely different address, saying she had received the email and does not know me."

I looked into our members, and the person's name and address are not on our list -- not even similar to anyone else's. I emailed her and she has no idea what our list is. The mystery person has an aol.com address, if that's helpful.

What could have happened? The situation makes no sense to me. Is this a bug somehow triggered by the content about the spam? On the other hand, this thread has been 'live' for a while as a topic on our list.

Thank you,
Jane Valencia
harplist Owner/Moderator



Re: Possible Downgrade to basic from Premium

John Pearce
 

I did see that page under billing in settings.  So we would still have everything marked "legacy", it's just that we would have less storage space for photos, files, polls, calendar, etc?

Thank you Bruce, and Duane

John P


Re: Strange thing happened with a Group reply - any ideas how this could have happened? #bug

Frances
 

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 10:58 AM, Jane Valencia wrote:
"I replied to the wedding scam post by hitting "reply to group", and a strange thing happened. It sent to our list address and to the sender of the message [both addresses are quoted and correct]
BUT it never posted, and instead I got an email from someone named [name quoted] at a completely different address, saying she had received the email and does not know me."
You hit "reply to group". On the group homepage, or by email?

Did you check "activity"?
https://groups.io/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/reviewing-the-group-s-activity-log

 Frances
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Strange thing happened with a Group reply - any ideas how this could have happened? #bug

Jane Valencia
 

Hi, we had a strange occurrence on our list. In replying to a thread about a wedding email scam (where scammers are emailing performers to play for a fake wedding), one of our members had this experience:

"I replied to the wedding scam post by hitting "reply to group", and a strange thing happened. It sent to our list address and to the sender of the message [both addresses are quoted and correct]
BUT it never posted, and instead I got an email from someone named [name quoted] at a completely different address, saying she had received the email and does not know me."

I looked into our members, and the person's name and address are not on our list -- not even similar to anyone else's. I emailed her and she has no idea what our list is. The mystery person has an aol.com address, if that's helpful. 

What could have happened? The situation makes no sense to me. Is this a bug somehow triggered by the content about the spam? On the other hand, this thread has been 'live' for a while as a topic on our list.

Thank you,
Jane Valencia
harplist Owner/Moderator


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