On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 05:32 AM, Stan Gorodenski wrote:

I transferred my group to groups.io around March of 2018. At that time it was my understanding that messages/posts containing only text and no images or attachments, do not count toward the 1G of free space.

Stan -- That's correct.

Has this changed? 

No. See the FAQ section at https://groups.io/helpcenter/faq/1/group-owner-moderator-faq/q-what-is-counted-towards-the-storage 

I need to be sure of this before I raise this issue in a group to which I belong. As an added caveat to this situation, the text of the posts contains links to web sites and has attached to it the past thread of the topic like...

That doesn't matter.
 
Hope this helps,
Bruce

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Ronaldo,
[this is getting a bit Off Topic. ]
I use Pegasus Mail http://www.pmail.com/
When I do a Reply there are some options, one of which is :
Prefix text included from the original with '>' markers
Note that this is usually a 'sticky' setting here and that I have switched it Off.

Hope that helps.

OK,
Tony

On 10 Oct 2020 at 15:48, ro-esp wrote about :
Subject : Re: [GMF] Digest missing total 30%

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 07:32 PM, Duane wrote:

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 11:02 AM, ro-esp wrote:

So how did that happen? Did Tony put a ">" before every line of his
comment?

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Like Tony just said, it's a setting in his email. Just out of curiosity, what is the setting called?
"hide all quote"?

groetjes/ĝis, Ronaldo


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On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 04:23 AM, Frances wrote:

I would warn group members that you are doing it - "going on holiday!"

Or perhaps not, IMHO. Depending on who can read your group message archive this can be a handy tip - off that your home is going to be unoccupied.

If you do want to shut down all group traffic then this suggests that you do not have another moderator for your group. Unless there are particularly good reasons for this being the case then it is better that there is someone who can step into your shoes just in case there is ever a reason why you cannot manage your group.

Chris

over the last few days I've been blocked for bounces:

Oct 10	#172208 [TekScopes] Tek 570 curve tracer on eBay	185.113.128.151: 550 relay not permitted
Oct 10	#172195 [TekScopes] Tektronix 2465A noise on readout	185.113.128.151: 550 relay not permitted
Oct 9	#172165 [TekScopes] Tek cam switch contact current rating	185.113.128.151: 550 relay not permitted
Oct 8	#172149 [TekScopes] TEK 7704A pre-death behaviour a clue to the fault?	185.113.128.151: 550 relay not permitted
Oct 8	#110728 [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 853A - no CRT display at all - troubleshooting help needed	185.113.128.151: 550 relay not permitted
Oct 8	#172110 [TekScopes] TEK 7704A pre-death behaviour a clue to the fault?

This all started on 5th October if that should be relevant

The strange thing is that AFAICT I received the messages in question!!!

I transferred my group to groups.io around March of 2018. At that time it was my understanding that messages/posts containing only text and no images or attachments, do not count toward the 1G of free space. Has this changed? I need to be sure of this before I raise this issue in a group to which I belong. As an added caveat to this situation, the text of the posts contains links to web sites and has attached to it the past thread of the topic like:

Hi Stan,
Blah, blah

From: X
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020
To: XX
Subject: XXX
Yes, I did.
Stan

On 10/10/2020, Y wrote:
Blah, blah?

*From:* X
*Sent:* Saturday, October 10, 2020
*To:* XX
*Subject:* XXX
Blah Blah

On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 11:12 PM, Janie wrote:

It's for two days only. 

If it is just for yourself, you can just go to Subscriptions and change your subscription to No Mail (if you allow that) or Special Notices Only.
There are other notifications that you would want to turn off as well  - moderator notifications.

If you wish to stop anything coming to the group, you could lock it temporarily.
https://groups.io/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/locking-and-unlocking-groups-and-subgroups

Or in Admin, change it to Announcement which stops everyone from posting except owners and moderators.

Just don't forget to change it all back!

I would warn group members that you are doing it - "going on holiday!"

Frances
 
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It's for two days only. 

Janie

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 05:23 PM, Annie Green wrote:

Apparently Yahoo didn't transfer our photos to io. 

Annie -- That's very possible, and in fact, likely. As I'm sure you know, Yahoo Groups was not performing well. There was no way to access any content that the Yahoo servers failed to provide. Photos, in particular, were very problematic.

Mark did the best he could, but it was necessary to check this at the time your transfer was completed, and perform a re-transfer of just the Photos section or anything else that didn't make it (or move that content yourself, manually).

The transfer completion email you should have received was very thorough; and if you still have it, you should read it again. It should have told you you exactly what content made it, and what didn't. 

Is it possible they may be somewhere besides the photo folder.

No.

Regards,
Bruce

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On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 07:32 PM, Duane wrote:

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 11:02 AM, ro-esp wrote:

So how did that happen? Did Tony put a ">" before every line of his
comment?

It's how some (most?) email clients handle quoting.  You may not actually see
it, depending how/where you reply, but it's implied. 

I'm not sure what you mean. Decent emailclients allow interspersed replies. Maybe microsoft-dictatorship ones don't.

It's also how the site handles it.

Which site?

Like Tony just said, it's a setting in his email. Just out of curiosity, what is the setting called? "hide all quote"?

groetjes/ĝis, Ronaldo

OK, I checked the Owners Manual and find this:

"Exception: If your group was created before August 24, 2020, the downgraded Basic group will retain the calendar, chat, database, member directory, files, photos, poll, and wiki features."

Our groups were created before January 1, 2020, so it looks like we can downgrade and keep the features.  That solves a lot of problems, thanks.
Karen

Thanks, I'll certainly try the backups.  We aren't using more than 1GB of storage now, so I'm not worried about that, but we do have a few MB of old photos. 

Karen

If the original main group address (groupname@...) still works when a subgroup is created, do to the other addresses such as groupname+subscribe@groups.io also still work?

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See recent topic https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/downgrade_and_keeping/77370589 , and https://groups.io/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/upgrading-or-downgrading-groups/downgrading-a-premium-or-enterprise-group .
If I understand correctly, if your groups were created before this year, you have 'grandfather rights' for them, and they will retain the files, etc. features (so they remain available)
To download your groups' data (which you might want to do just in case), see https://groups.io/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/exporting-or-downloading-your-group-s-data

Jeremy

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 07:56 PM, Karen Ivy wrote:

If we do this, how do we retrieve files, photos, and databases that were transferred from Yahoo?  Also, what happens with attachments in a Basic account?

This is relatively new territory since not many groups have downgraded.  The first thing you should do is go to the Settings page and use the Export Group Data button at the top.  Select the things on the list that you might want to save so it can be stored on your computer.  I'd suggest getting everything the first time, just to be safe.

I don't think anyone is quite sure what will happen if you're using more than 1GB of storage.  I think it's likely that you'll lose some attachments, especially if you've chosen to Delete Old Attachments for Storage Limit Reached, when that job runs on the servers.  Mark hasn't given us many details on what will happen to the rest of the stored items - files, photos.

Duane
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The pocket photos were in error most likely, but just in case, I'd open the message they belong to and have a peek, and if they were indeed sent accidentally, you can actually delete the message itself and it'll take care of all of them at once, no need in this case to delete one pic at a time.

Cheers,
Christos

We're considering downgrading our 2 groups from Premium to Basic, for financial reasons.  If we do this, how do we retrieve files, photos, and databases that were transferred from Yahoo?  Also, what happens with attachments in a Basic account?

Karen Ivy

See the Note: on https://groups.io/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/viewing-and-managing-your-group-s-storage/allotted-storage-space-by-plan-type

Duane
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On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 07:44 PM, Ginger Iorizzo wrote:

I have a basic group that is grandfathered in to have subgroups. If we create subgroups, will they each have 1G of storage, in addition to the 1G allotted for the main group?

The answers are in Help!
https://groups.io/helpcenter/glossary/1/terms/subgroup

https://groups.io/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/viewing-and-managing-your-group-s-storage?single=true

Frances
 
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I was reviewing our groups' storage, and find that the Photos directory has a section labeled "Emailed photos."  A few are actual photos that someone attached, but most are just sort of blank GIFs, about 1K in size.  Looking at the associated messages, they're related to emails I sent after we moved our groups to Groups.io; but those emails didn't have photos or anything else attached.  They contain URLs to PDFs which I posted on our organization's web site.  And yet I have these photos that look like someone's smartphone photo of their pocket.  Can I delete them without affecting the messages?  We don't use that much space but this is pure waste.

Karen Ivy

Hi,
I have a basic group that is grandfathered in to have subgroups. If we create subgroups, will they each have 1G of storage, in addition to the 1G allotted for the main group?
Thanks!
Ginger