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Re: Duplicate Attachments

Sandy Kozinn
 

In a group I help moderate, any post with an attachment is moderated.

Moderators can announce that any resending of an attachment will cause the moderator to reject the post and send it back to the writer.

After a few times, those with the habit of reposting attachments will stop, because their posts won't go through if rejected.

It's a little more work for the moderators at first but it will teach a lesson.


sdk


At 07:26 PM 9/23/2020, you wrote:
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 12:29 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
Nivard - I am doing nothing wrong whatsoever. It is clear what is happening. Members are posting replies with attachments (without any trimming taking place whatsoever). Either duplicates or partial duplicates are being created immediately or if not so,original replies are being separated from the original document in the listing of attachments. When you look at the list you see multiple entries some just on their own to start with changing to partial but incomplete duplicates asthe strings build up. It is a mess to be honest and it uses up space - I have advised my membership now to cease using attachments altogether and only to use "add pictures". I know I can restrict things but I am holding this in reserve. I do not think my members will adhere to stripping each and every reply of photos etc before posting replies. For me it is a straight forward glitch with IO architecture and that is all there is to it. I do not think there is a way of reverting the attachment register back to how it should look. barry.


Re: Files / Search not working #files

Jud Eson
 

Posted in beta group at https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/files_recently_uploaded_are/77036376


Re: Duplicate Attachments

Barry
 

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 12:29 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
Nivard - I am doing nothing wrong whatsoever. It is clear what is happening. Members are posting replies with attachments (without any trimming taking place whatsoever). Either duplicates or partial duplicates are being created immediately or if not so,original replies are being separated from the original document in the listing of attachments. When you look at the list you see multiple entries some just on their own to start with changing to partial but incomplete duplicates asthe strings build up. It is a mess to be honest and it uses up space - I have advised my membership now to cease using attachments altogether and only to use "add pictures". I know I can restrict things but I am holding this in reserve. I do not think my members will adhere to stripping each and every reply of photos etc before posting replies. For me it is a straight forward glitch with IO architecture and that is all there is to it. I do not think there is a way of reverting the attachment register back to how it should look. barry. 


Re: Delivery options #members

Beth Minahan
 

Thanks...I'd considered Duane's suggestion...just wondered...more out of knowing better how this all works...none of our folks go online to look at messages...we're a bit older.
Beth


Re: Delivery options #members

 

Beth, what Duane said, off-list email using Reply-All would be the best -and safest- solution for this.

IF your group has Subgroups enabled though, there's another alternative, if you want to keep the exchanges archived within your group, and also allow folks to use the group's online posting system; create a private subgroup, add only the folks needed for the discussion, and talk away within that group only.

Cheers,
Christos


Re: Delivery options #members

Duane
 

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 04:56 PM, Beth Minahan wrote:
Can I change that persons mail delivery options from "individual emails" to "no emails" for a brief period of time without them knowing so that we can talk about an award?
You could try, but if they go to the group online, they'd see the entire topic.  There's also nothing to keep them from changing it back, either online or via email.  If it were me, I'd just use email amongst those involved and keep it off the group.

Duane
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Re: Usage

Duane
 

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 04:34 PM, Susan Pitlock wrote:
Is there somewhere I can see how much space I have used and compare it to the basic membership?
You can see a summary of the space that's being used at https://groups.io/g/[Groupname]/usage, using your actual Groupname.  Te effect is pretty well described at https://groups.io/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/upgrading-or-downgrading-groups/downgrading-a-premium-or-enterprise-group

Duane
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Delivery options #members

Beth Minahan
 

All members of a small group that I administer get individual emails. We don't send many messages. Several of us want to discuss an award for one long standing member who is in the group. Can I change that persons mail delivery options from "individual emails" to "no emails" for a brief period of time without them knowing so that we can talk about an award? 


Usage

Susan Pitlock
 

I have one of my larger lists on premium membership. I am wondering if I really need all the extra space. Is there somewhere I can see how much space I have used and compare it to the basic membership? 

Thank you,
Susan


Re: individual members email other individual members?

Epicatt2
 

Lyn,

You can set your group so that private replies are enabled via a button so named at the bottom righthand corner of a blank reply form at your group's online site. That button toggles the 'rpivate reply' option on or off.

Another option would be to enable your group's online directory. This allow participating members who have opted-in to show their name in that Directory to email one another.

Failng the above, your member(s) may share email addresses with one another and then take their discussion off-list.

OK — HTH

Paul M.
CostaRicaLiving
https: //groups.io/g/CostaRicaLiving
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individual members email other individual members?

Lyn Paleo
 

Some members want to take a discussion "off line" by emailing another member. Can they do that? As Administrator, I can easily send a message to an individual, but can members do this?


Re: Duplicate Attachments

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 05:29 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
To be clear, I am talking about duplicates created when someone initially posts with an attachment and then others reply to it but *include* the attachment
We have our groups set to moderate anything with an attachment so duplicates can be deleted before posting to the groups. we add a Mod note to anything we edit and I think people are slowly getting the message about trimming their posts. There are probably some who don't give a damn though.

Andy


Re: Duplicate Attachments

Nivard Ovington
 

I am still somewhat mystified as to what you are doing ?

To be clear, I am talking about duplicates created when someone initially posts with an attachment and then others reply to it but *include* the attachment (I suspect (not so) smart phones are mostly to blame for this)

So the ones I would delete are copies of the attachment in the original post (which just take up storage room)

I have deleted many duplicates over a fair length of time and never has it deleted the original attachment

It sounds to me as if you are deleting a different attachment to the original

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 23/09/2020 15:35, Barry via groups.io wrote:
Christos - Further, I think the only duplicates that can be removed in this way are duplicates that have been created by the IO system with no photos attached in that particular reply. barry


Re: Duplicate Attachments

Barry
 

Christos - Further, I think the only duplicates that can be removed in this way are duplicates that have been created by the IO system with no photos attached in that particular reply. barry


Re: Duplicate Attachments

Barry
 

Christos - If you think about this a bit deeper - it isnt as easy as it sounds on the basis of your logic/thinking. If you are correct that there are attachments here which are in effect are originals (which I have deleted but should not have been touched/deleted) . The photos at least have disappeared altogether. On this basis I agree that it is logical to delete only complete duplicates not partial ones in this way. In the case we are considering - we started with one small original thread with a photo - this was the starter. Then we had a second small one (appparently a duplicate but with another photo) but this duplicate did not have the first photo as part of it. Then we had the large one (call it the 3rd duplicate) with several new photos and an MOV video (albeit video quite small) . It was this point that the 2 previous replies/photos were all to be seen together for the first time. Finally we had another small reply created with no additional photos this time just narrative but all there to be seen again. This final duplication did not add much at all over the 3rd except for narrative.

For my money the only one I could have possibly deleted and not lost anything would have been (all the photos) in No4 . Do you agree ? None of this explains why duplicates are created in the first place and perhaps this is down to lack of trimming. I certainly do not think that when one finds duplicated that deleting them adhoc will result in what you are looking for. In my case had I deleted photos in No4 reply - I would still be looking at 3 duplicates in the stack instead of 4 - two of which would have had repeat photos.

All good stuff - hey !!

Barry. 


Re: Groups.io Anniversary - Wed, 09/23/2020 #cal-notice

Pat Pratt
 

Happy Anniversary. Thank you for this excellent venue.
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Re: Groups.io Anniversary - Wed, 09/23/2020 #cal-notice

Douglas Swearingen
 

Happy Anniversary Mark and everyone on the GMF.  May there be many more to come.

Doug


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Re: how do I handle this?

Jim Wilson
 

If you didn't send 200-plus emails, your account has likely been compromised and you should change your password.
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Re: Duplicate Attachments

Barry
 

Christos - Yes, this could well be the case. There were 4 attachments in this case building up to become the largest. Two were large in content/two were smaller. I carried out the process on the two smaller ones each in turn and as best as I cuold maake out they were the first entries in each case. I am frightened to delete the third now because both of the remaining attachments contain much more which means more to lose. The idea you have put forward could be the answer but I have not yet worked out how to test this. I might make up a ficticious thread to test this (and tell the membership what is going on in the process) to establish the position - unless someone else such as you can say - "YES - BARRY THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN TAKE PLACE". barry   


Re: how do I handle this?

Duane
 

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 02:15 AM, Barry Porter KB1PA wrote:
How do I handle this?
That doesn't appear to have anything to do with the operation of GIO.  Looks more like your email provider sent it.

Duane
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