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Question about #cal-notice

 

Hi -- I'm the moderator of a group that has a calendar of birthday events.  The events have no reminders set, but I checked the checkbox called "Send Notice To Group When Event Happens (tagged with #cal-notice)."

My question is: The reminder messages are sent each day at 1:00pm, Eastern Standard Time. That's my own time zone, but some of our group members are in Australia, and the day is already over for them by the time the reminders are sent.

I would like to change these messages to be sent earlier in the day -- maybe at 2am Eastern Standard Time, instead of 1pm.

I've looked through the configuration screens, but I don't see a way to change this.

Can it be done?

Relatedly: If I need to turn off these notices and set up a reminder for each event, is there a way to bulk-edit all of the events at once? There are about 120 of them, which is a lot to do individually, though not impossible.

Thanks,
Valerie

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Duplicate Message Posts

Larry McDavid
 

I often receive two identical copies of GMF messages, such as the recent one about Facebook. I have only one membership in GMF and only one groups.io registration with a password. Not every message is duplicated but many are. The full headers of each duplicated message are identical, as is the message content.

Any idea why?

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Anaheim, California (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)

Re: Quoted post position

Sandy Kozinn
 

I use a signature on some of my IO groups.

If I comment above a quote, my signature nevertheless goes at the bottom of the message, under the quote. 

In the future, I'll do a radical snip of the message and put that first, so my signature appears under my own words.

If you don't use an automatic signature, I guess this is a toilet paper thing.

Sandy


At 12:28 PM 12/16/2019, you wrote:
Thanks for your suggestions, Bruce. And, yes, my group has discussed whether the quote should be at the top or bottom. Kinda like how toilet paper should be put on the roller.

Re: Quoted post position

Bill Mosca
 

Thanks for your suggestions, Bruce. And, yes, my group has discussed whether the quote should be at the top or bottom. Kinda like how toilet paper should be put on the roller.

Re: Failed transfers.....

 

Alan,

I still haven't learned how to get the group members with their
emails. Anyone know how to do that, or if it can be done?
In PGO, in the Group menu, select "Get Members for Current Group" or "Get Members for All Groups". After they download you can export them. Only works if you moderate or own the group.

Shal


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Re: Face Book

Frances
 

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 10:26 AM, Sandi D. wrote:
Opened up GIO group and all joined. 
Great points and strategy, Sandi.

One other thing that the person can do - if they wish a free group on Groups.io, they can get just 1 month of premium so the owner can direct add the members.
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Direct-Add-Members
(Note - everyone has access to the wiki and these messages without a Groups.io account.)

Frances

 
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Re: Failed transfers.....

 

As of this morning, Yahoo is still letting PGO download messages from my groups.  Slowly, and with restarts needed, but it is happening.

I still haven't learned how to get the group members with their emails.  Anyone know how to do that, or if it can be done?

Thanks.

Re: Is it possible to email an old thread by it's message number?

Ken Kloeber
 

Re: the hard-and-fast, 30-day rule - if the new msg doesn’t link in, but is subsequently merged in - will subsequent msgs then also thread into the original Topic??

Re: Face Book

Sandi D.
 

A little over a year ago, I brought over the GIO a family FB private group that was 5 yrs old.

Here's what I did:
Announced closure and all stopped posting
Opened up GIO group and all joined. 
Gave everyone 45 days to download a copy (FB will send it to you upon request) of everything they wanted. 

Removed everything from the FB Group (Including members), waited about a month or so and then deleted the group.
Kept FB account open so I didn't loose account control (FB owns content and search results can populate "deleted" FB sites and accounts for years). 

I can't recall what file type the FB posts were exported to me. I want to think it was HTML or PDF which I have retained as an archived file for our GIO group. 

You mentioned it was a health related FB group. If your friend has a public FB group or is using the account to host postings from others, one question she needs to answer is whether or not she is concerned about the information "left on FB" after suspending or deleting it. She might want to embed a link to the new GIO group so people can find her.

Since health care posts can be very personal at times, if it were my group, I wouldn't want to take responsibility for bringing FB posts over to GIO. I would announce closure and give each poster time to request their own FB download archive. I would start fresh on GIO. People tend post a question they want answered. They don't search through years of archived posts to locate answers. Perhaps bring the relavent FB files and photos to GIO. 

FB servers refresh content periodically. A deceased friend has about 10 FB "impersonated" accounts, all looking the same and reporting them to FB hasn't led to their removal. I deleted a FB business page and it's still viewable now 2 years later. I can still find a FB page that was "deleted" 7 yrs ago by another person to point to the same business. It contains erroneous contact information which confuses people who search for the business now. FB servers have retained the content somehow. It's frustrating and I and others have contacted FB, no solution.

FB pages aren't the same as FB groups but the point I am making is that FB servers may or may not retain data you "left behind" when deleting a group, page or account. FB retains full control over posted content. When you delete a FB account the only thing you are really doing is to remove your access to managing the content. If you don't want old content "out there", it can't hurt to actually delete all of your posted content and keep the account open for a period of time so that the FB servers can refresh a couple of time and theoretically replace the prior posted data with zilch. 

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Re: Confirmation email

Frances
 

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 09:07 AM, Janice Smart wrote:
When I approve a post I receive a confirmation email. How can I turn off that feature.
If you don't want to receive the approved email, change your subscription to full featured digest or something else.
Likely, you will still want to get the email saying that there is a message to approve, etc.
Go to your subscription.

You realize though that the "confirmation email" is the actual post after your have approved it. The one your other members see. And I have my email set up so they go in different folders.

Frances
 
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Re: Plain text only setting still includes HTML message part #settings #listmanagement

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 12:44 AM, Christopher W. wrote:
Yup: the settings are saved. I took the screenshot from a fresh load of the
page. Additionally, I set this option a few weeks ago, when I was initially
setting up the group.
Understood.

In case you haven't already tried this, uncheck the setting and then do an Update Group and then set it again and Update Group. You might even want to do a browser page refresh between doing the settings.
 
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Confirmation email

Janice Smart <smartjuanita@...>
 

Hello all

When I approve a post I receive a confirmation email. How can I turn off that feature.

Thanks!
Jan


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Re: Plain text only setting still includes HTML message part #settings #listmanagement

Christopher Warrington
 

On 2019-12-15 at 1:05:08 PM, D R Stinson <@steeplecab> wrote:

I think the plain text in admin, settings modifies Attachments, not the
messages themselves.
Plain text applies to the message itself. However if the sender doesn't
actually send in plain text, the system has to do the conversion itself.
In this particular case, there was a plain text part as well as a HTML part
(see the Content-Type and the headers of each part in the original message
[1]), so it doesn't seem like conversions are at play here. My expectation
was that the text/plain part would have been used & stored and that the
text/html part would have been dropped.

For now, I've enabled Normalize HTML Emails and will continue to monitor the
situation. If the group stills get messages with unwanted HTML in them, I'll
ask support for help. Though, in the new year...

[1]: mid:1248034367.20191215114735@... or https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/message/26184

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Re: Plain text only setting still includes HTML message part #settings #listmanagement

Christopher Warrington
 

On 2019-12-15 at 3:38:42 PM, Gerald Boutin <@gboutin> wrote:

However, going back to basics, I have to ask if you are certain that you
actually scrolled way down to the bottom of the page and clicked on the
blue button to "Update Group".
Yup: the settings are saved. I took the screenshot from a fresh load of the
page. Additionally, I set this option a few weeks ago, when I was initially
setting up the group.

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Re: Is it possible to email an old thread by it's message number?

Zhao Li
 

Thanks Shal for the additional option of merging the threads. I’ll definitely keep that in mind if the threading algorithm doesn’t catch the late email.

Thanks again :)

On Dec 15, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Shal Farley <@Shal> wrote:

Zhao,

I see it's possible using the web interface, but was wondering if it's
possible by emailing.
If you have a copy of the original message in your email interface, if you use the interface's reply function (not the reply links in the message footer) most email interfaces will include a header field to indicate that this is a reply, and what message it is a reply to. They generally use either or both of "In-Reply-To" or "References".

If your reply has one of those fields then the time limit Chris mentioned doesn't apply. Simply leave the Subject line unchanged and the reply should link up to the old thread.
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Avoiding-threading-topics---threading-algorithm

If it doesn't, a group moderator can merge it to the old thread.
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Merge-Threads

Shal


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Re: Face Book

Laurence Marks
 

Re: Is it possible to email an old thread by it's message number?

 

Zhao,

I see it's possible using the web interface, but was wondering if it's
possible by emailing.
If you have a copy of the original message in your email interface, if you use the interface's reply function (not the reply links in the message footer) most email interfaces will include a header field to indicate that this is a reply, and what message it is a reply to. They generally use either or both of "In-Reply-To" or "References".

If your reply has one of those fields then the time limit Chris mentioned doesn't apply. Simply leave the Subject line unchanged and the reply should link up to the old thread.
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Avoiding-threading-topics---threading-algorithm

If it doesn't, a group moderator can merge it to the old thread.
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Merge-Threads

Shal


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Re: Plain text only setting still includes HTML message part #settings #listmanagement

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

Christopher,

I repeated your experiment and I do not see any remnants of html in the generated messages. Likewise, if I receive an html formatted message, the html is stripped out and I am left with only text.

I see now that we differ in one setting, that being "Normalize HTML...". I have that checked.

However, going back to basics, I have to ask if you are certain that you actually scrolled way down to the bottom of the page and clicked on the blue button to "Update Group".

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Re: Face Book

Glenn Glazer
 

The short answer is no. The slightly longer answer is that Facebook does not provide identity information, and in particular, email addresses of members to Facebook group owners. At that point, one would have to ask every member for their email address and pretty much start a new group from scratch. The much longer answer involves a bunch of technical details on how Facebook groups store and present data in completely different ways than groups do.

Best,

Glenn

On 12/15/2019 14:26, Janice wrote:
I have been contacted by a friend who is a member of a health related Face Book group.  The owner of that group is looking for a different place to host her group.  I am not a Face Book user so my question may be silly.  Can Groups.io transfer a group from Face Book like they did for me from Yahoo?

Janice B
Utah
New Statler Siblings--a long arm quilting group.

Re: Failed transfers.....

 

I purchased the PGOffline program and with that was able to download and export the list of members by display name.  But I am NOT getting the email addresses or any other member data.  Does anyone know if there is a way to do that with PGO?  Or, failing that, can the Chrome app do it?

Frances, by purchase I meant the transfer service from iogroups.

I also tried the Archiveteam but it returned an error message.  Will try it again.   https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Yahoo!_Groups

Thanks.

Alan