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Re: Migrating Yahoogroups to Groups IO

Duane
 

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 04:11 PM, Lorne Knutson wrote:
Does the extension from Yahoo to January 20th buy more time?
Not for using PGO, only for the YG download.

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Re: Migrating Yahoogroups to Groups IO

Lorne Knutson
 

Does the extension from Yahoo to January 20th buy more time?

I don't have the time for at least a week.




On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 BMaverick <GroupManagersForum@groups.io> wrote:

Debbie,
 
IF you are able to get PGO aka PG4 aka PGOffline downloaded and a working license in the next few hours, then YES, the clock is ticking and getting all the messages, photos and files is nearly doable within the next 50-hours that Yahoo Groups is still active with CONTENT.
 
This is the 10-hour before Yahoo Groups goes DARK.  You got a weeee-bit of time left, not much.  Get hopping NOW.
 
BMaverick
 

Re: transfers from yahoo groups - expected time to completion? #yahoo #transfer

BMaverick
 

Dennis,

Have you made it over to the PGO web forum to voice your concerns.  Wilson literally gets informed when a posting hits there.   In a few instances, he worked things out there via PMs with the licenses arrangements.

You don't have time to waste using emails, go direct at http://www.personalgroupware.com/smf/
 
I also added to your subject hashtag #PGO as Wilson monitors it.

BMaverick
 

Re: Entire membership receives notification when I create Subgroups #email

EAA 113 Support
 

Perfect. Thank you

Re: Migrating Yahoogroups to Groups IO

BMaverick
 

Debbie,
 
IF you are able to get PGO aka PG4 aka PGOffline downloaded and a working license in the next few hours, then YES, the clock is ticking and getting all the messages, photos and files is nearly doable within the next 50-hours that Yahoo Groups is still active with CONTENT.
 
This is the 10-hour before Yahoo Groups goes DARK.  You got a weeee-bit of time left, not much.  Get hopping NOW.
 
BMaverick
 

Re: yG Privacy Dashboard download #yahooprivacydashboard #ioimportpl

Andy T
 

Hi Lena,
I am not a programmer and so I was wondering if you can help me clarify how your Perl script handles the "ownership" of each post. When your script is finished uploading, will the "By XXXXX" in each post  list  the original  email address of the Yahoo member who posted the message? Or will it be ME in the "By"  (I'm running the script)?

Also, when your Perl program parses and makes substitutions from  memberlist.csv, needchange.txt, and map.txt , these will not affect "BY XXXX" in each post  correct? These changes will only affect the FROM: in the meat of the post which is on the first line of the post?

I am one of the unfortunate people not given administrator rights to my  Yahoo group until after Dec 1.  I have downloaded my Yahoo archive through their free service and it is all intact and I was able to confirm the content via Thunderbird. I am also planning to upgrade to Premium so that I can populate the members manually. I am trying to understand how the message will look like after I run your program.  I would like to know if "BY XXXXX" will reflect the original poster, and whether the original FROM will be shown in the meat of the post but altered by your script. Appreciate any assistance you can to clarify for me.

Thanks,

Andy

Re: mbox upload - dates are missing #mbox #ioimportpl

Andrea <elmourabita@...>
 

Dear Lena,

thanks so much for your work!

Most times your new implementation works, we worked with it in the
meantime. But for a reason we do not understand this does not always
work, but only in about 50% of the messages. No systematic reason is
understood by us.

And then - we have a problem with "bounced" Subjects, even if they are
"no mail"-subjects. In this cases following happens:
Programm log says: "after sending message xxx: 500 ... is bouncing..."
and then the whole programm stops.

Is there any workarround for us that you can advice? We thought about
deleting all bounced subjects, but this is not exactly what we would
like to do...

Many greetings and again thanks for your great job with this programm,

Andrea


Am 07.12.19 um 00:18 schrieb Lena:

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 09:43 PM, Andrea wrote:

Dear Lena,

we used your programm to read in the old mails delivered by the download
of the dashboard. The original dates are entered in message source (of
mbox) but are not delivered into the new groups mail archive but as
sent-date you get the upload date (of today, for instances). Now we have
the question if there is any possibility to enter the date of the
original mail into the uploaded old mails?
My program transmits original Date, but groups.io ignores it. I added an option (turned on by default) to insert original Date into beginning of message body.

I also fixed a bug (a deleted message caused next messages in a mbox file to be skipped).

Lena


Re: Manual transfers from Yahoo Groups

BMaverick
 

Cal,
 
The YahooMessagesApplication was mentioned here just last week.  It works in a web browser BASED on Chrome and not Chrome itself from how I read it. 

Back in October, I wasn't at all successful getting the YahooMessagesApplication app to even work right.  I then went to try the other Python scripts.  But these too had troubling issues as YG did something different behind the scene preventing the Python scripts from acquiring anything.

Lastly, our group opted with PGO aka PGOffline reader and downloaded for Yahoo Groups (YG).  This worked the very first time right from the install.

SADLY, the clock is ticking.  You have less than 72-hours to get PGO up, running and pulling data from YG. 

Other than the Yahoo Request for the groups' data, and it took myself 9 tries, the PGO was the ONLY way for us to go and it worked.  Our YG owner and then the mods left in 2009.  We were left on auto-pilot.  Some folks went to a PBB forum and others to a FB group.  The core users stayed behind and have now jumped with us to GIO.
 
BMaverick
 

Re: Yahoo has extended deadline for downloading to January 31, 2020 11:59 PST #yahoo

Randall
 

Yahoo extending their deadline is like the Titanic throwing out a few more foam rings into the water. It's best to swim fast, and swim hard to get away at all costs. Thank goodness for Mark and GIO... otherwise known as the Carpathia.
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Re: double notifications when member post

Chris Jones
 

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 03:51 PM, Sugar Lopez wrote:
When she post, I get 2 notifications that are exactly the same.
Is that two notifcations that there is a message to be moderated, or one telling you that a message is awaiting moderation followed by the post once it has been released?

Do you have a second account to which one of the notifications is being sent, or are they both to the same email address?

Chris

Re: Finding total used storage space numbers

Bruce Bowman
 

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 12:17 PM, lloyd lehrer wrote:
Where do I find this? I see total file and photo numbers but is any other usage included such as email attached photos, total email usage or databases used included?
Lloyd -- It's in Admin>Upgrade (or Admin>Billing if you have a Premium group).

See also https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Managing-Attachments%2C-Files-and-Photos

Bruce

Finding total used storage space numbers

lloyd lehrer
 

Where do I find this? I see total file and photo numbers but is any other usage included such as email attached photos, total email usage or databases used included?

lloyd lehrer

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Re: transfers from yahoo groups - expected time to completion? #yahoo #transfer

 

Dennis,

The problem I'm having is with PG Offline.
So why not take it to their forum?
http://www.personalgroupware.com/support.htm

For my part I've had zero trouble using PG Offline or contacting Wilson.

They do NOT respond to repeated emails at all.
Make sure you're using the correct address (info@...), and that your email service isn't set up with overly enthusiastic spam blocking. Perhaps try sending from a different service if you're unsure.

Shal


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Re: LInk Forum Membership with Organization Membership #membership #api #website #subscription

BWA Webmaster
 

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 05:42 AM, Sandi D. wrote:
They know every board member will always receive what is sent if they use that email address when sending.
Quick question: Do you work with every board member so that they can send/receive email to/from your domain addresses within their email program of choice? I can't find within GSuite the ability to auto-forward messages to another email outside the domain.

Just trying to figure out the work involved to switch over to GSuite to manage the board forum. Thanks!

- Gary

Re: Posting photos and reply indicators #question

Bruce Bowman
 

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 09:55 AM, <victorponomarenko@...> wrote:
Guys, can members of groups post pictures and how?
Yes, if allowed by group settings. You can attach photos to a message, or create a folder in the Photos area and upload them there.

And can we do the thing as at yahoo groups, when we can see on which message it was a reply?
Topics are threaded as in Yahoo Groups. 

You really should check out the GMF wiki (https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/home). Many questions along these lines are already answered there.

Bruce

Re: PGO-2-GIO is live!

Duane
 

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:20 AM, Wilson Logan wrote:
it preserves YG message numbers
Sort of.  It's actually only accurate if there have been no posts in the GIO group before using it, as noted by Larry this morning, https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/message/25903.

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PGO-2-GIO is live!

Wilson Logan
 

Hi All,
 
I have just finished loading a 3878 message group without incident and that concludes the beta test phase for PGO-2-GIO.
 
PGO-2-GIO (or P2G as we call it internally) accepts PG4 & DB3 format databases. 
 
You can import MBOX data into PGO and then export it as PG4 for import into P2G.
 
Its $50 + $1 per 1000 messages uploaded with the first 10,000 free.
There is no charge for multiple groups.
 
It does attachments (GIO does not) and it preserves YG message numbers (GIO does not).
 
It does not upload members (which GIO did do).
 
It also does Files & Photos.
 
My recommendation is to create a sub group of your groups.io main group called "Yahoo Archive"  or similar and temporarily change your display name on groups.io to “Yahoo Archive”  or similar when you do the actual posting.
 
All posted messages, files & photos will appear to come from that account.
 
It is not possible to retain the original attribution as that would require that every group member that ever posted in YG join your group and then you would need to log in & out of each members account to post as them.
 
Searching messages will still work because the original YG message number, poster & date/time of posting are retained in the message body.
 
Obviously, when you set the sub group up, do not invite anyone to it till you’ve loaded the archive data and set your own Notifications to off for the sub group or you’ll get an email for every message you add.
 
Also, make sure “moderation” is OFF for the user you use to do the posting.
 
 
Cheers,
 
Wilson.

double notifications when member post

Sugar Lopez
 

Good morning

I have a member who is on moderated status.

When she post, I get 2 notifications that are exactly the same.

Why is this happening?

Sugar

Re: Finding stuff in GMF and in the wiki #search #wiki

John Pearce
 

I have been very sucessful in finding things using google search and duck duck go.  In addition to my search argument I add groups.io

John

Re: What Do You Call Groups.io?

Ellen
 

I’ve been a groups IO person since joining.
Ellen
 

From: Duane
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 10:24 AM
To: GroupManagersForum@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GMF] What Do You Call Groups.io?
 
On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 09:09 AM, Rob Halligan wrote:
This is a bit of dumb question but what do you all call this service?
There have been discussions about this in the past.  My own preference for shorthand is GIO (similar to YG for YahooGroups) that I pronounce jeeoh.  Some use Gio, some use Groups I O without the dot.

Duane
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