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Re: Can I transfer multiple yahoo groups to subgroups of a main group? #transfer

y@es
 

The one catch is that all members of a Groups.io subgroup must also be a member of the associated primary group. So as you do the transfers into subgroups, any addresses not already in the primary group will be automatically added to both the subgroup and primary group.
Reading this:

So If you start out with the subgroups, not the primary, the primary will be populated automagically.

Then could the primary be moderated for announcements pertinent to all subgroups?


 

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Re: Help with transfer of an "orphaned" Yahoo group #pgoffline

 

I understand if you are not with the tools to do anything and more than likely most members are on no mail but maybe post to those groups that you would like for them to join you over at xyz group that you created on IO groups ? Groups that have been stagnate for along time seems Yahoo could just delete the group . I came across one a couple years ago there was no posts for over 3 years .The owner had died the moderator left so it sets .

On 10/19/2019 10:51 PM, Adam Farson wrote:

I am trying to transfer the following Yahoo group to groups.io:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/icom2kl/

This is an amateur radio technical group. The problem I am encountering is as follows: Although I am a moderator on this group, the owner pa3duv@...) did not give me the privilege of elevating members to moderator status. I have created the member transfer@groups.io, but cannot elevate it to moderator and am thus unable to start the transfer process.

Migrate several Yahoo groups into one subgroup possible?

Ben Stuyts
 

Hi,

I am going to migrate a couple of Yahoo groups. I know I can migrate them into their own subgroups. But some of them overlap, both in subject and in members, and it would make sense to merge them into a single subgroup. Is that possible?

If not, I could migrate them separately into their own subgroups. But is it then possible to merge two subgroups? I know that I can export data per subgroup, but I don't think I can put that back (including messages etc) into another subgroup.

Thanks,
Ben

Re: Can I transfer multiple yahoo groups to subgroups of a main group? #transfer

Duane
 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 08:51 AM, y@es wrote:
Then could the primary be moderated for announcements pertinent to all subgroups?
I believe folks have set the main group as Announcement Group and used the subgroups for discussions.  In this mode, only Moderators can post though.  If you'd like others to be able to post, you'd need to make them moderators, or not set it this way.  Maybe set the main group to Moderate all messages to prevent discussion from accidentally getting started.

It hasn't been mentioned lately, but each group and subgroup has it's own settings, so they each need to be set as you'd like on their respective Settings page.

Duane
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Re: Migrate several Yahoo groups into one subgroup possible?

Bruce Bowman
 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 09:59 AM, Ben Stuyts wrote:
I am going to migrate a couple of Yahoo groups. I know I can migrate them into their own subgroups. But some of them overlap, both in subject and in members, and it would make sense to merge them into a single subgroup. Is that possible?

If not, I could migrate them separately into their own subgroups.
I believe it is possible, but I don't know of anyone who has done it. 

If you try it, and it doesn't work, no harm done...you can always fall back on Option 2. Please report back on what you find.

But is it then possible to merge two subgroups? I know that I can export data per subgroup, but I don't think I can put that back (including messages etc) into another subgroup.
There are no tools available that would allow you to merge the subgroups afterward; nor can you merge subgroup content into the primary group. 

Regards,
Bruce

Re: Migrate several Yahoo groups into one subgroup possible?

Duane
 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 08:59 AM, Ben Stuyts wrote:
But some of them overlap, both in subject and in members, and it would make sense to merge them into a single subgroup. Is that possible?
I believe that's entirely possible.  When doing the paid transfers, do one for each group, but use the same destination subgroup.  To minimize the possibility of problems, I'd only transfer one at a time.  If you're doing it manually, it becomes more tedious and you can't actually import the messages without6 resending each one.

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Re: Migrate several Yahoo groups into one subgroup possible?

Ben Stuyts
 

Duane, Bruce,
 
Thank you both for your quick answers!
 
On 20 Oct 2019, at 16:06, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 08:59 AM, Ben Stuyts wrote:
But some of them overlap, both in subject and in members, and it would make sense to merge them into a single subgroup. Is that possible?
I believe that's entirely possible.  When doing the paid transfers, do one for each group, but use the same destination subgroup.  To minimize the possibility of problems, I'd only transfer one at a time.  If you're doing it manually, it becomes more tedious and you can't actually import the messages without6 resending each one.
 
I am currently in the waiting line for my first group migration. (Sent out the transfer@groups.io invitation yesterday, nothing back yet. It’s mega busy probably!) Once this groups has been successfully transferred I’ll try the next one with the same destination and see what happens. :)
 
Just to be sure: a group migration does not destroy any existing info in the target (sub)group? There’s a couple of topics already in this particular subgroup here.
 
Thanks,
Ben
 

Re: Problem replying in Thunderbird using message footer link #reply-to-group

West Coast Compañeros Staff
 

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 05:50 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
On 10/19/2019 17:05, West Coast Compañeros Staff wrote:

Pablo,

I tried starting Thunderbird in Safe Mode, with all Add-ons disabled, but the behavior of the Reply links is unchanged. This tells me that Add-ons are not the cause of the problem. Thanks for letting me know that upgrading to TB 68.x does not solve the problem either. I'm in no hurry to move to that version in the midst of all the other chaos of transferring nine Yahoo! Groups to Groups.io.

Robert R.
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Like Duane, I don't understand why one would think that the link would work with trimming and like Duane, I suggest in in Thunderbird (which I also use, version 60.9.0) that you do the mark and reply trick, as I have done here.

The Reply-to-Group link looks like this for this thread:
a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:GroupManagersForum@groups.io?subject===3DRe:%20Re%3A%20%5BGMF%5D%20Problem%20replying%20in%20Thunderbird%20using=%20message%20footer%20link%20%23reply-to-group">Reply To Group</a>
That's an HTML encoded mailto link, no different really from a mailto link one might find on a contact page on some website.

Importantly, it has to work with every Mail User Agent (MUA) that displays it, not just Thunderbird. Snipped responses are not, if I recall correctly, part of the IETF standard for MUAs, so that isn't how the mailto link behaves. In fact, I'm pretty sure the Gmail web UI doesn't support that.

In short, it doesn't work because it's not supposed to work that way.

Best,

Glenn

 
Glenn,

Your comments clarify nicely the function of the HTML code for the footer Reply links. I discovered that for myself when I inspected that code and I've moved past my expectation that quoted text would be loaded into the reply message. What had originally led me to believe that Thunderbird was trying to do that was the new TB tab that opens up along with the reply message. That tab is labeled "Loading ..." and remains there doing nothing until you close it. That seems to be a bug in Thunderbird, and it is that TB behavior that Pablo and I have been investigating. My message to Pablo (quoted above) should have made that clearer to the group. My bad. The bug seems to be alive and well in the latest version of TB and does not seem to be caused by Add-ons. As a TB bug, it is probably not an issue that we need to continue discussing in GMF.

Robert R.

Re: Migrate several Yahoo groups into one subgroup possible?

Bruce Bowman
 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 10:26 AM, Ben Stuyts wrote:
Just to be sure: a group migration does not destroy any existing info in the target (sub)group? There’s a couple of topics already in this particular subgroup here.
I have never heard anyone report a problem with that. You should be fine.

Regards,
Bruce

Re: Migrate several Yahoo groups into one subgroup possible?

Ben Stuyts
 

Thanks Bruce, I’ll go try this out and report back.

Ben

On 20 Oct 2019, at 16:34, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 10:26 AM, Ben Stuyts wrote:
Just to be sure: a group migration does not destroy any existing info in the target (sub)group? There’s a couple of topics already in this particular subgroup here.
I have never heard anyone report a problem with that. You should be fine.

Regards,
Bruce

Re: Migrate several Yahoo groups into one subgroup possible?

Duane
 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 09:26 AM, Ben Stuyts wrote:
Just to be sure: a group migration does not destroy any existing info in the target (sub)group?
It's supposed to just add the copied information and I haven't heard of problems with that.  Each imported group will create a bunch of new posts with consecutive numbers, but the original date order will be preserved.  Most folks don't pay much attention to post numbers, but if there are links to any in the original posts, they'll no longer point to the correct post (or even the correct site!).

Duane
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Format for file names

Jerry Berg
 

I am new to Groups.io, so apologies in advance for what may be a stupid question.

When I upload a file to my group, instead of displaying just the file name, the file name includes the path all the way back to my C drive where the file is stored. It makes it hard to identify files in a list of files. Is this normal? How to fix?

Thanks.

Jerry

Re: $110 transfer question about attachments.

Ben Stuyts
 

Hi,

On 20 Oct 2019, at 15:29, Stinson Webmaster <webmaster@...> wrote:

Thanks Ben, is this script similar to what PG Offline application it is the script a tool to move that saved info into GIO?

I am not familiar with PG Offline. The script I mentioned basically downloads everything and gives you a folder structure like this:

groupname/
groupname/databases
groupname/email
groupname/files
groupname/photos

From that point it is up to you what to do with this. In the email directory, there are separate files for each message (plus their attachments), but there is no way to import this in the groups.io system. You could send each message again to the new group, but then all would be dated wrong, wrong sender (you) and it would be very hard or impossible to get the threads correct. So best would be to just upload all this to the files section I think.

thanks just trying to learn

Me too, last few days were busy. :)

Ben

Re: Format for file names

Pablo Sanchez
 

On 2019-10-20 10:42, Jerry Berg wrote:
    I am new to Groups.io, so apologies in advance for what may be a stupid question.

    When I upload a file to my group, instead of displaying just the file name, the file name includes the path all the way back to my C drive where the file is stored.  It makes it hard to identify files in a list of files.  Is this normal?  How to fix?



Hey Jerry,

I just did a test and I am not seeing what you're seeing - see below.  Can you do a screen shot and post it?

Thx!



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Re: Format for file names

Frances
 

Hi

I just double-checked what I do and here's what I found.
On my Mac computer, it will show the suffix but only that.
However, I can edit the file name that is displayed after the file is uploaded. Click on the update icon beside the name and edit and click update, include taking out the .pdf or .pages

I don't know why it initially displays the full path when you do it though. Possibly your computer setup?

Frances
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Re: Moving just the members

Robert Schechter
 

Bruce wrote:

 

box in the form:

upload a flat text file containing all the email addresses in the same format.

 

 

I do not know everyone’s names, are you saying the flat file cannot be a mix, some with names some without?

 

-          Robert S

Re: Problem replying in Thunderbird using message footer link #reply-to-group

Glenn Glazer
 

On 10/20/2019 07:21, West Coast Compañeros Staff wrote:
Your comments clarify nicely the function of the HTML code for the footer Reply links. I discovered that for myself when I inspected that code and I've moved past my expectation that quoted text would be loaded into the reply message. What had originally led me to believe that Thunderbird was trying to do that was the new TB tab that opens up along with the reply message. That tab is labeled "Loading ..." and remains there doing nothing until you close it. That seems to be a bug in Thunderbird, and it is that TB behavior that Pablo and I have been investigating. My message to Pablo (quoted above) should have made that clearer to the group. My bad. The bug seems to be alive and well in the latest version of TB and does not seem to be caused by Add-ons. As a TB bug, it is probably not an issue that we need to continue discussing in GMF.

Robert R.
I've seen that and I agree it is a bug in Thunderbird. It's not related to groups.io though, so I think further investigative work would be best done offlist - especially given how much traffic there is on the list of late.

Best,

Glenn

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Threading/Conversations

MALACHY OCONNOR
 

We currently have a Yahoo group with about 300 users. I setup a Groups.io group and added 10 users as a test. When using Reply to Group to reply to an email the content from other replies is removed. For those users with Threading or Conversations enabled this is OK. However for users without Threading or Conversations enabled they only see that reply which can be very confusing. 

What is the recommended procedure?

Re: Download message history

Sarah k Alawami
 

I believe the owner of the group can export the message history. But no one else has that privilege. I guess because you can do whatever you want with that message history. Personally, I like it this way annoying as it is.
 
Sarah Alawami
 

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