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Re: Out of Office Replies

Epicatt2
 

Thank you Shal.

I couldn't figure out exactly why I got several Out-of-Office replies from that person. It was odd because I think that I'd only replied to one post that day (which was not his). I've never gotten any other OOO replies on GMF; this was a first. Thanx for the explanation.

Even though they were mildly annoying it was easy enough to just delete them.

Regards,

Paul M.
CostaRicaLiving
https: //groups.io/g/CostaRicaLiving
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Re: Please share your database use-cases #database

Jenny Council
 

Hi Lloyd, is your group large? How do you keep that list up to date as members join/leave?

Thanks
Jenny



On Sep 1, 2019, at 19:46, lloyd lehrer <lloydlehrer@...> wrote:

We use the database for a detailed roster of our members. Names, email addresses, street address, titles, tasks, jobs in the organization, spouses names, phone numbers, etc.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Sun, Sep 1, 2019, 7:58 AM <councilconsulting@...> wrote:
Hi all,could you share examples of the ways you are using the database feature?

 I haven't quite figured out its usefulness, so I'd like to hear some of your real life examples.

Thanks 


Re: Please share your database use-cases #database

Jenny Council
 

Hi Marie, can you explain more? Do users add tags to the  Db of things they like/dislike in a way you ban report on it? Or send emails that are appropriate to those tags?

Jenny



On Sep 1, 2019, at 20:56, Marie Kathryn Casalaspro <Angelkatey@...> wrote:

We use the database for people's likes and dislikes when it comes to tags.  It's very needed

On Sun, Sep 1, 2019, 1:46 PM lloyd lehrer <lloydlehrer@...> wrote:
We use the database for a detailed roster of our members. Names, email addresses, street address, titles, tasks, jobs in the organization, spouses names, phone numbers, etc.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Sun, Sep 1, 2019, 7:58 AM <councilconsulting@...> wrote:
Hi all,could you share examples of the ways you are using the database feature?

 I haven't quite figured out its usefulness, so I'd like to hear some of your real life examples.

Thanks 


Re: Please share your database use-cases #database

Jenny Council
 

Thanks Bob, how are you integrating the database with mapping tools/Google maps? 

Jenny



On Sep 1, 2019, at 22:24, Bob Bellizzi <cdfexec@...> wrote:

We use Databases for listing a specific sub specialty listing of ophthalmologists.
We use it in our premium group to provide a visual mapping worldwide which also allows patient members to elicit Google directions.
We use it in our Management group w/out the map for referrals when needed.
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Re: Please share your database use-cases #database

Jenny Council
 

Thanks Pamela, how do you expose the database to your members?

Jenny



On Sep 2, 2019, at 01:03, Pamela Tatt <knittingpam@...> wrote:

We are a charity knitting/crochet/sew group and databases are the most important part of our group.  Each month we support different charities.  I set up a database for each on so members can add their details if they will be supporting that charity.  At the end of the month donations have to be posted so as each member sends off their contribution they record the date and tracking number and when it reaches the group member who is collecting parcels she marks them off as received.  Without databases we would be lost!!

Pamela
Knit4Charities Inc


Re: Please share your database use-cases #database

Jenny Council
 

Hi Lloyd, thanks for asking, that's been one of my hurdles in making this tool useful.  

Jenny



On Sep 2, 2019, at 17:38, Charlie Behnken <charles.behnken@...> wrote:

Lloyd Lehrer,

can you tie the Database roster of members to the groups.io list of members to ensure everyone is in the database, and that there are no non-members in the database?

Charlie


Re: Subscription prefs not working right? #settings

 

Jenny,
 
A couple of sanity checks below:
 
the settings I currently have are:
individual, follow only, automatically follow replies, no attachments

on manage my groups the indicator shows; individual F R A
For councilconsulting I'm currently showing F A.

You've also replied in this Topic under the address jennycouncil - and that subscription is Individual Messages, All Messages.


I still get ALL group emails.
Are you perhaps receiving both addresses in the same interface and attributing to councilconsulting messages that were actually sent to jennycouncil? You can tell by looking in the footer at the very bottom of each message. Next to the unsubscribe link is the address to which this message was sent.
 
Or perhaps simply logged in under the wrong email address, thinking you were changing jennycouncil's settings when you weren't? You can tell which email address you are logged into by hovering or clicking on your name in the upper right corner. Except councilconsulting doesn't have a Display Name set, so your email address would be showing there without a hover or click.
 
Shal
 

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Re: Subscription prefs not working right? #settings

 

After turning off daily digest to isolate the problem; follow only definitely still not working as expected;

the settings I currently have are:
individual, follow only, automatically follow replies, no attachments

on manage my groups the indicator shows; individual F R A

I still get ALL group emails.

(once I understand why follow only doesn't work I'll go back and test the daily digest problem)


Re: Invitation Emails #addmembers

 

Cyndi,


Deferred - 550 5.1.0 <66.175.222.12> This IP has sent too many messages this hour. IB504 <http://x.co/rlbounce>

What does this mean?

From the link in the message: "This IP address has reached the maximum allowed messages for that hour. Please try again later."

It means that invitee's email service has decided that Groups.io has sent it too many messages. The IP address in the message, 66.175.222.12, is Groups.io's outbound email server.

 
Am I limited to only two email addresses per invitation per hour? (That would be a drag on my time!)

No. This message is what the invitee's email service said when Groups.io attempted to deliver your invitation. It is a flaw at their service that they are not recognizing Groups.io as a mailing list service and allowing it to send more messages.

How do I not get it again?

Luck of the draw.

Or, convince that invitee to use an email service that is less hostile to Groups.io. Maybe the invitee can contact their technical support and request that they "whitelist" Groups.io. If not, chances are that invitee will have ongoing trouble receiving messages from your group using that service.

Shal

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Invitation Emails #addmembers

Cyndi Law
 

Please Help!
I sent out one invitation email to three people. Two show sent in the status column, the third has this:

Deferred - 550 5.1.0 <66.175.222.12> This IP has sent too many messages this hour. IB504 <http://x.co/rlbounce>

What does this mean? Am I limited to only two email addresses per invitation per hour? (That would be a drag on my time!)

How do I not get it again?


Re: Out of Office Replies

 

Gerald wrote:

Is anyone else getting emails from Tony via his Out of office
auto-responder, or am I the only lucky one?
As Bruce said, I think it is likely that anyone who posted in the last day or so did. The cause, apparently, a very badly designed "out of office" autoresponder.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoresponder

I noticed this about a quarter past midnight last night (07:16 UTC), when I received 16 replies as I was heading to bed.

I should have posted to the group about it at that time, just as reassurance that the problem was known and (hopefully) taken care of. What I actually did was set the member to No Email, write a note to myself in his member notes tab, reply to him sternly (cc GMF's +owner) about his autoresponder, delete the 16 message from him I received, reject one that landed in Pending, and go to bed.

Is there something broken / changed in groups.io's email addressing
that would make it easy for someone setting up an auto responder to do
a reply to sender?
There is nothing changed. The thing that is broken is this member's email interface, or at least the autoresponder part of it. 1) Autoresponders should never respond to any message with a List-ID header field. 2) Autoresponders should never respond to the same email address more than once in a 24-hour period. There are probably other "best practice" rules for autoresponders.

As I say this, it would seem that reply to sender would likely be a
default choice no matter where the email came from / via. If so, why
aren't we seeing more of these?
Probably because the problems with "broken" autoresponders have been known about for decades, and most email systems that implement the feature have taken the necessary precautions to prevent this kind of error. Starting with (1) above.

I am also not yet 100% convinced that this is just a normal OOF
responder running amok as some of the email addressing in email source
look a bit unusual.
I wondered a bit about that too. The claimed mailer is Apple Mail, which ought to know better, but the headers show routing through a security service called messagelabs.com and the use of a tracking system called Brightmail. All of that, plus the content of the message, suggest that the member is using a business-oriented email address to subscribe to the group rather than a standard consumer email setup.

Whatever the case, his email interface/service should have known better.

Shal


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Re: Out of Office Replies

Bruce Bowman
 

On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 11:39 AM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
Is anyone else getting emails from Tony via his Out of office auto-responder, or am I the only lucky one?
I got them, too. Probably the only ones who didn't are those who haven't posted.

Is there something broken / changed in groups.io's email addressing that would make it easy for someone setting up an auto responder to do a reply to sender?
Not that I'm aware of. The autoresponder would simply have to ignore the reply-to field and instead send its response to the From: field. Some of the auto-responses I got were to messages I sent as early as Aug 28 but he didn't go out of town until today.

So something is seriously broken on his end, and his account has been placed on "no email" until he gets his act together.

Regards,
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Re: Out of Office Replies

Frances
 

Hi

I got them too for threads I had participated in. He is away until Sept 18. I emailed the group owner address asking that he be put on Special Notice.

Frances

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Out of Office Replies

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

Is anyone else getting emails from Tony via his Out of office auto-responder, or am I the only lucky one?

Overnight, I received a batch of replies to several posts I recently made on this group.

Is there something broken / changed in groups.io's email addressing that would make it easy for someone setting up an auto responder to do a reply to sender? As I say this, it would seem that reply to sender would likely be a default choice no matter where the email came from / via. If so, why aren't we seeing more of these?

I am also not yet 100% convinced that this is just a normal OOF responder running amok as some of the email addressing in email source look a bit unusual.

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Re: Please share your database use-cases #database

Charlie Behnken
 

Lloyd Lehrer,

can you tie the Database roster of members to the groups.io list of members to ensure everyone is in the database, and that there are no non-members in the database?

Charlie


Re: Facebook integrations not working #bug #integration

Sarah Rainsberger
 

Same here. 2 groups with a few integrations in each. I first noticed the problem, and posted a thread earlier this week, about not being able to ADD new groups. But the integrations I have were working. Now that I check, yes, not even the current ones are sending new posts, so there is certainly a change that has affected the service, and not in a good way.


Re: Please share your database use-cases #database

Jan Winspear
 

I run two craft exchanging groups for ATCs and Cards – the swap lists for sign ups and partners are listed in the Database – I would be lost without the Database!!!

Best wishes
Jan
UKATCgroups.io


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Hi all,could you share examples of the ways you are using the database feature?

 I haven't quite figured out its usefulness, so I'd like to hear some of your real life examples.

Thanks 


Re: Question about banning members

 

Linda,

When a member is banned from a group, is that ban connected to their
email address ...?
Yes.

If it's the email address, can't they just create a new email address
and join again?
Yes they can.

If, as Frances suggested, you run your group with Restricted membership you might be able to recognize them when they try again, but maybe not.

The extra information available in the pending subscription notice may help with this, but even that isn't sure-fire if the person takes steps to conceal themselves. In particular no such information is available if they join by email (using the +subscribe email address on the group's home page).
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/31931987

The feature Marcio couldn't remember is the ability to ban domains. That's not likely to be useful against an individual troublemaker as they can get around it by choosing a popular service (Gmail, Yahoo Mail, AOL, etc.) to join your group, some domain you wouldn't be willing to ban.

Shal


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Re: Question about banning members

 

Linda,
When a member is banned from a group, is that ban connected to their email address or their personal information?
To their email address. However, apparently there is another kind of banishment (available only for paid groups, as far as I know).
At this point, I'll leave it to be further discussed as I can't remember right now the necessary info to give you about it.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Re: Subscription prefs not working right? #settings

Jenny Council
 

Thanks Shal, after posting I changed from daily summary to individual mails, but only those I follow, just to See if That eliminated the threads I don't follow.

So far I think that is behaving as expected. Later I'll turn summary back on and see if it gets confused again.

J

On Sep 2, 2019, at 01:15, Shal Farley <shals2nd@gmail.com> wrote:

councilconsulting,

in this group in my email settings I have selected "daily summary"
and in advanced settings I selected "what I follow" ...
but I am getting Individual emails and not a daily summary, and I am
getting All emails on all threads, not just those I have followed
I don't know if the Daily Summary provides a summary of all Topics, or if it obeys the Following rules.

But I don't know why you would be getting individual emails instead.

n.b. Your GMF subscription is currently set to Individual Messages. Perhaps you changed it back?

Shal


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