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Re: Calendar #calendar #bug #integration

Contoocook Valley Radio Club:K1BKE
 

I just ran into the daylight saving time issue.  I pull the group.io calendar feed into a web page.  Events that carry the correct time in the groups.io calendar become one hour early after the time change.

Lindsay


Re: Spamfilter

Duane
 

On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 02:28 PM, Jim Fisher wrote:
Does that really mean my ID in this group is either 1138723 or 18...46 or
even xyzzy ?
Yes, your group ID is 1138723, but your site ID is 267. (The other number and xyzzy are used for personalization of the unsubscribe link.)  The low site ID says you joined the site very early on.  The much higher group ID says you joined this group much later.

I discovered that if you go to your Account and select the Identity page, you can see that the Edit button for each group includes your group ID for that group.

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Re: Spamfilter

 

Jim,

Does that really mean my ID in this group is either 1138723 or
18......46 or even xyzzy ?
1138723 is the number that identifies your subscription to this group. It is unique site-wide (no other subscription, in any other group, will have that same number).

I believe 18......46 is a random "salt" added so that people can't easily create an unsubscribe link, and then unsubscribe you, just by seeing your subscription ID in the group's Directory.

xyzzy is an Easter egg.
Nothing happens.

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Re: Spamfilter

 
Edited

On the end of this message from the group the unsubscribe link was:
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/leave/defanged

Does that really mean my ID in this group is either 1138723 or 18......46 or
even xyzzy ?

Jim Fisher

On 23 Feb 2019 at 15:46, Shal Farley wrote:

For those interested, you can find your own subscription (aka group
member) ID in any group in the unsubscribe link in an email footer (I'm
193 in GMF, 9089 at beta).
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Re: member not confirmed

 

Duane wrote:

Is the member getting group emails?  If they're NC, they shouldn't, nor should they have access to any group information.  I've had a few cases where there was an NC account, but closer inspection revealed that they'd made a typo and later joined with the correct email address.  If you're sure it's a good email address (or maybe even if you aren't), you can select that member record, scroll to the bottom, and choose the "Send Confirmation Email" button.  That will send them a new email with a link to confirm their address.  If you find that it was a typo situation, just delete that member.  It should be noted that Inviting or Direct Adding someone will bypass the need for confirmation.
No, the member obviously did´t get emails. But she received the automatically sent questionnaire and answered it. The address is correct. So I did as you said and sent "confirmation email". I hope this´ll work. Thanks.
Victoria


Re: member not confirmed

Duane
 

On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 02:48 AM, Victoria wrote:
I have one member which was subscribed to the group, but in the members list it says “not confirmed”.
Is the member getting group emails?  If they're NC, they shouldn't, nor should they have access to any group information.  I've had a few cases where there was an NC account, but closer inspection revealed that they'd made a typo and later joined with the correct email address.  If you're sure it's a good email address (or maybe even if you aren't), you can select that member record, scroll to the bottom, and choose the "Send Confirmation Email" button.  That will send them a new email with a link to confirm their address.  If you find that it was a typo situation, just delete that member.  It should be noted that Inviting or Direct Adding someone will bypass the need for confirmation.

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Re: Option to not be told that message was already approved?

Samuel Murray
 

On 2019/02/24 05:10 AM, Chromatest J. Pantsmaker wrote:

You are saying that groups.io <http://groups.io> returns a 500 (email rejected) error. I'm saying that groups.io <http://groups.io> is sending a reject message.
I hope GMF accepts the attachment I'm sending with this message. Here is the message I received... hopefully it will answer the question.

Samuel


[Mod note: I removed it because it contains personal identifiers (name and email) for some member of Samuel's group. GMF's archives are public so that wouldn't be safe. I can attest that it is a standard mailer-daemon message from Samuel's email service. Relevant parts below]:

From: mailer-daemon@yandex.ru
Body:
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This is the mail system at host yandex.ru.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

You can find the the possible reasons of the undelivered message letter here:
https://yandex.com/support/mail-new/wizard/zout_send/not-got-report-yes-other.html

Please, do not reply to this message.


<zalang+approve+1169533+1117336+7337527875915317394@groups.io>: host
lb02.groups.io[173.255.221.194] said: 500 This message has already been
approved or rejected. (in reply to end of DATA command)


Reporting-MTA: dns; forward102p.mail.yandex.net
X-Yandex-Queue-ID: E9E8D1D406DE
X-Yandex-Sender: rfc822; samuelmurray@yandex.com
Arrival-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 14:24:21 +0300 (MSK)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; zalang+approve+1169533+1117336+7337527875915317394@groups.io
Original-Recipient: rfc822;zalang+approve+1169533+1117336+7337527875915317394@groups.io
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Remote-MTA: dns; lb02.groups.io
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 500 This message has already been approved or rejected.
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Re: Yahoo transfer #transfer

 

Brent,

Existing transfers is blank. So, perhaps yahoo is not sending the
invitation?
If you mean that the drop-list contains no entries, then what Bruce said. Your transfer status page is created when you Set Up A New Transfer, not when Groups.io receives the invitation from Yahoo.

Now, you may be right about Yahoo not sending the Invitation. That's been known to happen. But in order for Groups.io to know who sent the invitation, and which Groups.io group it relates to, you must set up the transfer first. Note that the list only shows transfers initiated by you, logged in with the same email address as when you initiated the transfer.

In addition to Bruce's excellent message, see GMF's wiki on the topic:
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

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member not confirmed

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I have one member which was subscribed to the group, but in the members list it says “not confirmed”. I never had this before. What can I do?

 

Victoria


Re: Yahoo transfer #transfer

Bruce Bowman
 

On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 01:53 AM, Brent H Gourley wrote:
Existing transfers is blank. So, perhaps yahoo is not sending the invitation?
If your group to be transferred does not appear in the Existing Transfers pull-down at the bottom of the Yahoo transfer page, you are still in Step 0. Sending the invitation is Step 2.

Full instructions can be found at https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/message/8697. Do not do anything out of order.

Hope this helps,
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Re: saving updates to calendar

Mary Machado
 

I am having a problem with this also.  I cannot edit a recurring calendar event.  It does not save the edits at all if I choose All Events at the "Would you like to change only this event or all events in the series?" prompt.  If I choose Only This Event at the prompt, it does change the first event in the series.  So I tried then to edit each event in the series this way (by choosing Only this Event) and it will not work for any of the events after the first one. Basically there is no way to get an edit to be saved with any event after the first in the series. 

Any recent developments to address this?


Re: Yahoo transfer #transfer

Brent H Gourley
 

thanks for that info. Existing transfers is blank. So, perhaps yahoo is not sending the invitation?

Transfer not showing in Yahoo member list. Transfer must show in member list to be promoted to moderator.


Re: Option to not be told that message was already approved?

Chromatest J. Pantsmaker
 

Ummm... Isn't that proving my point? I send a message, groups.io rejects it and an email gets sent back to me. 

You are saying that groups.io returns a 500 (email rejected) error. I'm saying that groups.io is sending a reject message.

If groups.io didn't reject it, the email would never be sent.  The ESP isn't generating the email on its own.

On Feb 23, 2019 12:48 PM, "Duane" <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:21 PM, Chromatest J. Pantsmaker wrote:
It looks like a bounce/reject message from groups.io to me.
No, it's from the email service provider (ESP).  When the ESP attempted to send the message, groups.io returns the 500 error to them, so they send the report to the originator.

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Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Hi all,

This week's change log:
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/19973


Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.


CHANGE: When setting up a hashtag alias, make the explanatory text
more clear.
Thanks Andy!
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/19916


Comments about these are welcome:

CHANGE: Made group icons clickable in the mobile home page.
CHANGE: Added a switch to summary button when unsubscribing from the
Edit Subscription page.
CHANGE: Increased the write timeout of the api server to partially fix
an issue where archive downloads were taking a long time to
generate.

Please call out any you find significant.

Shal


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Re: Yahoo transfer #transfer

 

Brent,

Yahoo does not show the invitation in the yahoo activity log and group
io has not accepted.
If you haven't, look at your "Existing Transfers" page for this transfer, found through the drop-list at the bottom of transfer instructions page. That should tell you if Groups.io has received the invitation.
https://groups.io/yahootransfer

There's often a delay between when they receive it and when they accept it because accepting it requires manual intervention (solving a CAPTCHA test).

Shal


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Re: Spamfilter

 

Duane,

... but the member's site ID is something else entirely. That can be
found by either looking at their profile or choosing 'all posts by
this member'.
I had been wondering about the this number. My site-wide posterid is 129 (All Posts By This Member). I wondered if that id name is literal: the 129th user to post a message, rather than the 129th user of Groups.io.

However you, Duane, show 1289 for both your posterid and your profile link in GMF's Directory. So maybe the fact that that number shows for your profile link does mean that it is a user number - since in that position it couldn't depend on you having already posted a message.

For those interested, you can find your own subscription (aka group member) ID in any group in the unsubscribe link in an email footer (I'm 193 in GMF, 9089 at beta).

Which, by the way, is why one should always trim the footers before forwarding a group message to someone else!

Shal


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Re: Option to not be told that message was already approved?

 

Samuel,

1. Is there a way for a moderator to prevent receiving this error
message?
I've sometimes wished there were. I think this was discussed in beta ages ago, but I'm not currently divining a search keyword unique enough to find it among all the other discussions of email and approval.

It is one of the reasons I now do almost all of my groups.io approvals via web. Even on mobile, instead of replying to the email message I'll click through the (now conveniently placed) link to the site.

Of course, another factor is that I'm usually in reach of WiFi, so the data exchange getting to the site is both fast and free. Especially true with the lightweight pages at groups.io. With Y!Groups I still approve by email predominantly because I don't want to wait for all their garbage (ads and tracking cookies) to load before I can do anything.

2. Wouldn't it be better if the subject line said something like
"Thanks, but message already approved" ...
As you already discovered, the actual email is generated by your service, in response to the failed status value given by Groups.io during delivery of your reply. So the only part of that message Groups.io can improve is the text of the status value, which is usually quoted somewhere in the body of the failure notice.

Shal


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Re: Option to not be told that message was already approved?

Duane
 

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:21 PM, Chromatest J. Pantsmaker wrote:
It looks like a bounce/reject message from groups.io to me.
No, it's from the email service provider (ESP).  When the ESP attempted to send the message, groups.io returns the 500 error to them, so they send the report to the originator.

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Re: Option to not be told that message was already approved?

Chromatest J. Pantsmaker
 

It looks like a bounce/reject message from groups.io to me. I also find them very annoying and pointless. I'd rather get nothing at all. We have multiple moderators and each one thinks they've done something incorrectly when they get those messages..

On Feb 23, 2019 9:54 AM, "Chris Jones via Groups.Io" <chrisjones12=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 04:40 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:
Looking at this again, I believe that the "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" is not from Groups.io but from my mail provider.
Ah... very good point!

Chris


Re: Option to not be told that message was already approved?

Chris Jones
 

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 04:40 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:
Looking at this again, I believe that the "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" is not from Groups.io but from my mail provider.
Ah... very good point!

Chris