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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

 

Bob,

But the actual provfider for all of ATT's domains and same for Verizon
are actually Yahoo or is it now Oath?
Verizon now owns Yahoo Mail and AOL as brands under its Oath subsidiary.

As I understand it ATT and its domains switched away from Yahoo Mail as their email service provider around the time of the sale of Yahoo properties to Verizon.

Verizon domains had email service primarily through Yahoo Mail at least up until Verizon's purchase of AOL (which was earlier than Yahoo). I don't know if those are now a mix of Yahoo Mail and AOL or if they're still Yahoo Mail under the hood.

Shal


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Re: Harvesting email addresses

 

Debbie,

I'll write to support (Mark?) and see what he suggests should be done.
Yes, Mark Fletcher.

Maybe I just need to write to the owner of that list and make him
aware of the opposition to what he's doing.
That might be a good first step. It is always possible that he doesn't realize that others might object to being invited "out of the blue".

Shal


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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

Bob Bellizzi
 

Has never happened to me on either  yahoo or Groups.io
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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

Bob Bellizzi
 

But the actual provfider for all of ATT's domains and same for  Verizon are actually Yahoo or is it now Oath?
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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

Bill Burns
 

On 7/24/2018 1:49 PM, Ullman Garrett wrote:
I have used Gmail for a number of years and to my knowledge no messages from groups. IO or Yahoo groups was ever bounced.
Ullmang
Same here, with messages from Yahoo Groups, Google Groups, and now Groups.io.

As well as my standard Gmail address used for this list, I have a business domain whose email is managed by Gmail, and one of those addresses I also use for some list memberships. I've never had any bounces on either of them.

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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

toki
 

On 24/07/18 05:49 PM, Ullman Garrett wrote:
I have used Gmail for a number of years and to my knowledge no messages
from groups. IO or Yahoo groups was every bounced.
I've seen messages from both Groups.IO and YahooGroups be bounced by
GMail for no apparent reason. GMail also has a habit of putting about
five percent of list messages into the spam folder.

jonathon


Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

Ullman Garrett
 

I have used Gmail for a number of years and to my knowledge no messages from groups. IO or Yahoo groups was every bounced.
Ullmang

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018, 12:27 PM toki <toki.kantoor@...> wrote:
On 24/07/18 01:29 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

>the best long-term solution is to seek out a more reliable provider. I realize that sounds kinda glib, but it's the truth.

Are there any reliable email providers any more?

All of the providers bounce messages for no apparent reason.

For lists that I consider to be important, I have at least three
subscriptions, from different email providers (^1) scattered across the
globe. It is very unusual for the same message to be bounced by all of
those providers.


^1: I don't look at the branding, but who runs the operations.  As such,
AOL, Verizon, and BT are the same provider. Similarly, Yandex, and
Mail.RU are the same provider.

jonathon




Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

toki
 

On 24/07/18 01:29 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

the best long-term solution is to seek out a more reliable provider. I realize that sounds kinda glib, but it's the truth.
Are there any reliable email providers any more?

All of the providers bounce messages for no apparent reason.

For lists that I consider to be important, I have at least three
subscriptions, from different email providers (^1) scattered across the
globe. It is very unusual for the same message to be bounced by all of
those providers.


^1: I don't look at the branding, but who runs the operations. As such,
AOL, Verizon, and BT are the same provider. Similarly, Yandex, and
Mail.RU are the same provider.

jonathon


Re: Option not to receive own emails?

Bärbel Stephenson
 

May be it would help if the Filter text was changed with the group name in the subject line?  This should mean that only the incoming mail is going into the particular folder?  And while answering a post of course take the group name out of the subject line before sending.
 
Barbara 
 

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Date: 7/24/2018 10:05:42
Subject: Re: [GMF] Option not to receive own emails?
 
I believe it happens when they have a filter set to move emails from the group into a folder/label, which catches both the 'sent' version from gmail, and the incoming email via groups.io.
 
John

 

 

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Re: How do I transfer events from one calendar to another? #calendar #howto

Bruce Bowman
 

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:25 PM, Mom Munson wrote:
Just the ability to import a file like that into the main calendar would be enough. Then, we could make the planning calendar in google or ical and import from there. (or out and back again)
Note that you can export your groups.io calendar to Google...just not the other way 'round.

See this thread:  https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/message/5824 

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Re: Harvesting email addresses

debbie
 

Thanks for your view on this, Shal.

Several people have complained already and I received it, too, so I will take upon myself to take care of it. I'll write to support (Mark?) and see what he suggests should be done. Maybe I  just need to write to the owner of that list and make him aware of the opposition to what he's doing.

Debbie

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:


Note also that I think the wording here implies that the aggrieved party is the invitee, not the owner of the group whose members were targeted.





Re: Harvesting email addresses

 

Debbie,

Does "[TOS prohibition on collecting email addresses]" include
harvesting email addresses to send them invitations to another
groups.io group?
I would think so, if the invitations would be considered "unsolicited" by the recipients.

Note that might not have an obvious interpretation; the group's culture and norms come into play. Some groups consider off-list contact between members to be entirely normal (and hence participation in the group constitutes tacit consent) while other groups consider off-list contact to be forbidden or even reprehensible.

And there can be cases in between. For example, when discussing things here in GMF I've been known to send a member of GMF an invitation to join my test group. Often I'll mention that on-list, but I can't say that I always do. Sometimes I just write a personal note into the invitation itself. One could argue that such invitations (or at least some of them) are unsolicited in that the GMF member did not explicitly ask for an invitation. I would assert that their assent to be invited, even if post-facto, is a reasonable inference from the conversation about resolving a particular question.

Note also that I think the wording here implies that the aggrieved party is the invitee, not the owner of the group whose members were targeted.

If so, is support@groups.io the correct place to report it to?
Yes. The very last sentence of the TOS:
"Please contact us at support@groups.io to report any violations of
these Terms of Service or to pose any questions regarding this Terms of
Service or the Service."

Shal


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Re: How do I transfer events from one calendar to another? #calendar #howto

Duane
 

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 10:25 PM, Mom Munson wrote:
Is there a central “wishlist”
Suggestions should be posted on the beta group.  There's an item for calendar features that you could add support for, https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/20346954

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Re: Sub Group Question #subgroups

 

SIRMick,

1. Can I change the photo for the sub group?
Yes. Same as the primary group.

Visit the subgroup's Settings page, click on the Cover Photo tab.

2. Can I have different setting as regards membership to the main
group
Yes, the subgroup's settings are (nearly) independent of the primary group's settings.

Moreover, each subgroup member can have different subscription settings in each subgroup and the primary group.

Shal


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Re: Option not to receive own emails?

John Davis
 

I believe it happens when they have a filter set to move emails from the group into a folder/label, which catches both the 'sent' version from gmail, and the incoming email via groups.io.
 
John

On 23 July 2018 at 14:26, Bärbel Stephenson <Lismibaebi@...> wrote:
I am a gmail user and download emails to an email programme.
I love the fact that groups.io send my own emails to a group to me as normal group mail.  It may or may not happen with yahoo and with so many messages there delayed or getting lost, it was always a guessing game if my messages made it to the groups or not.
Why would your members get their own messages twice?
 
Barbara
 
   

 

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Sub Group Question #subgroups

SIRMick <deadmort2@...>
 

Hi,

We recently set up a main mailing list and a sub group.  I've been through all the setting but have a couple of question.

1.  Can I change the photo for the sub group?

2.  Can I have different setting as regards membership to the main group

I haven't been able to find anywhere that I can do this.

Thanks in advance


Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

Jim Higgins
 

It happened because Spectrum felt that Groups.io was sending "too many messages" to accounts on their network.

Jim H



Received from Donald Hellen at 7/23/2018 11:12 PM UTC:

Kathy,

I received the same message last week sometime. I reset my bounce but I don't see why it even happened in the first place.

Donald


Harvesting email addresses

debbie
 

Does "harvest or collect email addresses or other contact information of other users from the Service by electronic or other means for the purposes of sending unsolicited emails or other unsolicited communications" include harvesting email addresses to send them invitations to another groups.io group?

If so, is support@groups.io the correct place to report it to?

Thanks,

Debbie




Re: How do I transfer events from one calendar to another? #calendar #howto

Renée Munson
 

Got it. Thank-you. Is there a central “wishlist” where one could request such a feature, in some future update, from the powers that be? ;-)

Just the ability to import a file like that into the main calendar would be enough. Then, we could make the planning calendar in google or ical and import from there. (or out and back again)

Thanks!

On Jul 23, 2018, at 8:08 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@gmail.com> wrote:

R,

... then we could transfer all those planned events to the main
calendar (viewed by the entire membership) all at once. Is this
possible?
Well, at the bottom of the planning calendar pages is a blue "Subscribe to Calendar" button. Clicking on that will give you a link to a page containing that calendar's events in iCalendar (.ics) file format.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICalendar

But that's only half an answer, because I don't know of a way to then import that file into the main calendar.

Likewise one by one. In each event you can download it as an .ics file, but then there's still no way to import them into the main calendar.

Shal


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Re: How do I transfer events from one calendar to another? #calendar #howto

 

R,

... then we could transfer all those planned events to the main
calendar (viewed by the entire membership) all at once. Is this
possible?
Well, at the bottom of the planning calendar pages is a blue "Subscribe to Calendar" button. Clicking on that will give you a link to a page containing that calendar's events in iCalendar (.ics) file format.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICalendar

But that's only half an answer, because I don't know of a way to then import that file into the main calendar.

Likewise one by one. In each event you can download it as an .ics file, but then there's still no way to import them into the main calendar.

Shal


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