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Re: Files folder missing

 

Mick,

I am using an iPad with IOS. I have scrolled the full list.
Are you (or any other group members) experiencing the same problem (with the same folder) using another type of device?

I have clicked on the column name link. It changes from the normal
alphabetical to reverse alphabetical.
And are you saying that the folder is missing regardless of sort order?

I am not panicking because I can re-create the folder name and all the
files should be backed up on my desktop computer.
Given that you can find the files and folder with search I'd hold off on re-creating the folder. If there is in fact a bug in the Files list presentation it would be good to keep the evidence for Groups.io to investigate.

Other thoughts:

Is there anything different about the folder name, or the name of any files in the folder, compared to others?

Is this folder at a deeper level of nesting than others?

Is this folder in a folder rather than at the root?

Shal


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Re: Exporting Files

Frances
 

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 06:38 PM, Green Gate Grove wrote:
As the owner of a site I frequently export our  files to my personal computer. I would like to have a Moderator do the same at another site. Can I give that moderator permissions to do this or do I have to make that person an owner also?
You must give them the ability to modify group settings. At least that's what triggers it in my test group.
You can see yourself if you add another email address for yourself and make that email address a moderator.

Frances
 
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Re: Files folder missing

Green Gate Grove
 

I had the same thing happen to me several months ago. I checked all the logs and could not find any instance where the files were deleted.
If you find out what happened, please let me know.


Exporting Files

Green Gate Grove
 

As the owner of a site I frequently export our  files to my personal computer. I would like to have a Moderator do the same at another site. Can I give that mederator permissions to do this or do I have to make that person an owner also?


Re: Files folder missing

Mick Anderson
 

I am using an iPad with IOS. I have  scrolled the full list.
I have clicked on the column name link. It changes from the normal alphabetical to reverse alphabetical.
I am not panicking because I can re-create the folder name and all the files should be backed up on my desktop computer. Just a lot of work.

 Mick


Re: Files folder missing

 

Mick,

When I go to the files one of the folders is missing.
If I do a search of the files the folder now appears.
When I next access the files the folder is missing again.
Help us help you.

Are you using a web browser on a desktop/laptop device, or mobile device (phone, pad) and which browser? Or using the smartphone app (iOS or Android)?

When you say the folder is missing, have you scrolled the entire list, including each page?

Have you tried clicking one of the column headings to change the sort order of the list?

Shal


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Files folder missing

Mick Anderson
 

When I go to the files one of the folders is missing.
If I do a search of the files the folder now appears.
When I next access the files the folder is missing again.

Mick


Re: Temporarily moderating ALL messages.

Donald Hellen
 

Bob . . .

On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 16:45:11 -0700, "babygrand" <bob@bobluhrs.com>
wrote:

If I could moderate them all that would work but there's no way to do this temporarily, in fact, there does not even seem to be any way to do it at all. Each member has their own moderation setting, only. I can't go through the whole list one by one of thousands of members and change them. Anyone have any ideas on it?
Are only members allowed to post and not just anyone? You probably
already have this covered and only allow members to post but I thought
I'd mention that in case it's the reason for the off topic posts.

Aside from full moderation of all posts, which might require you get
more moderators to help with this, you could put the offending
members on full moderation or just ban them outright if you have a
firm policy of staying on topic. If you do ban them, you could make an
announcement of such so that others not only take it as a warning but
also those who didn't care for what was posted know you care enough
about the group to take action to stop such posts.

Donald


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Re: Temporarily moderating ALL messages.

 

Bob,


If I could moderate them all that would work but there's no way to do this temporarily, in fact, there does not even seem to be any way to do it at all.

Yes, there is. Simply select All messages are moderated in the Spam Control panel of your group's Settings page:

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Or optionally, Messages that start new topics are moderated.

You do not need to (and should not) uncheck whatever Spam Control you normally use (Restricted Membership and/or New Members Moderated).


  Each member has their own moderation setting, only. 

The above setting will control all members whose Posting Privilege is Use Group Moderation Setting:

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That's the default and recommended setting for most members. The group setting will not control posting by members who have one of the Override settings - use those sparingly.

Shal


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Temporarily moderating ALL messages.

babygrand
 

During COVID, especially, I'm getting a lot of posts on my group that are off-topic.  It is costing me members due to quitting the group from these messages bombing my members.  I sympathize with them, but don't want to just close off all messages.  If I could moderate them all that would work but there's no way to do this temporarily, in fact, there does not even seem to be any way to do it at all.  Each member has their own moderation setting, only.  I can't go through the whole list one by one of thousands of members and change them.  Anyone have any ideas on it?

thanks, Bob


Re: Member list search function #search #members

 

It sure is! Thanks again Andy!!
 
Chris Gillihan


Re: Member list search function #search #members

Andy Wedge
 

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 05:13 PM, Andy Wedge wrote:
It works fine on my desktop but not on the app or mobile site.  I'll raise it as a #bug.
This is now fixed.

Andy


Re: Member list search function #search #members

 

Thanks for the help Frances and Andy!
 
Chris


Re: Member list search function #search #members

Andy Wedge
 

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 02:36 PM, Chris Gillihan wrote:
I always search the member list prior to adding new members to keep duplicates to a minimum. I've noticed that after a recent update that added filters option to the member list, the search feature is no longer functional. Is anyone else having this issue?
It works fine on my desktop but not on the app or mobile site.  I'll raise it as a #bug.

Andy


Re: Member list search function #search #members

 

Frances I'm using the website not the app.
 
Chris


Re: Member list search function #search #members

Frances
 

Chris, it doesn't work on my iPhone either. Not on the website.

Frances
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Re: Member list search function #search #members

Frances
 

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 10:26 AM, Chris Gillihan wrote:
I'm using Chrome mobile 92.0.4515.105 on Android 9.
 
Regardless of what I put in the search box I get the entire member list for my results. It's like my search attempt was ignored. If I filter the list first, I receive that entire filter list for my results, again as if the search was ignored.
 
Even entering keyboard gibberish (hsheuehbzjueheh) I get the entire list as results.
 
Chris, are you using the Groups.io app or the regular website?

I find it is hard to find the "apply" button for the filter. Need to scroll.

Frances
 
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Re: Member list search function #search #members

 

I'm using Chrome mobile 92.0.4515.105 on Android 9.
 
Regardless of what I put in the search box I get the entire member list for my results. It's like my search attempt was ignored. If I filter the list first, I receive that entire filter list for my results, again as if the search was ignored.
 
Even entering keyboard gibberish (hsheuehbzjueheh) I get the entire list as results.
 
Thanks,
Chris Gillihan


Re: Member list search function #search #members

Frances
 

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 09:36 AM, Chris Gillihan wrote:
I always search the member list prior to adding new members to keep duplicates to a minimum. I've noticed that after a recent update that added filters option to the member list, the search feature is no longer functional. Is anyone else having this issue?
 
In Admin, Members, I can still use the search box. I can even filter and then use the search box. 
I am using Safari 14.1.1
I tried on Firefox 90.0.2 as well and it works fine.
On a MacAir.

When I tested searching the filtered names, I focused on at least one of the filtered results - e.g. display name, email address, domain so there was something to retrieve!

Frances
 
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