Darryl sent this message about a year ago when we moved over to groups.io.   The response was quick and overwhelming, so much so that Darryl had to ask people to stop sending contributions.  At the time this money was need to make us a paid group and was, if I remember, $110 at that time.  It is now $220.  Becoming a paid group was the price for getting transferred.  The fact that we got transferred is proof that he paid the money.

The point here is that paid groups have 20 GB of storage, not 1GB.   We may have just passed our 1 year mark and have reverted to being a free group.  This may be what generated the message.  I didn't check during the year to see if we were given that extra storage space, but I guess it is moot now.

As to contributions, $5 a month would be quite excessive.  With  our 1238 members, that would generate $6190.  Even $1 would generate $1238.   All to pay a $220 bill.  $220 divided by 1238 would equal a fair share per member at about 18 cents.  Obviously not everyone is going to contribute, but even so handling donations each year is a hassle and then returning excess contributions is even more of a hassle. A few people will probably carry this group if we need to go premium again.  

Before we get too involved in the logistics of paying for premium status, the question is whether or not we need the additional storage.  Our photo uploads are sized down to screen width (1024 pixels) to save space.  I transferred the photos and normally would have set the size at 1024 pixels at that time.  I checked and it appears that was what happened as one photo I checked was downsized from 974 kb to 244kb.  We could also thin our files some to weed out the chaff.  It wouldn't be much effort if the posters could edit their own folders.   I am listed as the owner of any folders where an owner couldn't be identified, Usually that is because they dropped out of the group, but might be the result of an email change.  They might be prime candidates for thinning.

I am not sure we need to do anything now though, as it will take us a while to use up the 200 megabytes.  That 244kb photo is typical of the largest size photos that fill the screen.  It would take us just over 800 photos of that size to fill our remaining space.

Dale

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On Mar 8, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Dale Smith <dalesierra@...> wrote:



My apologies for the confusing title of the previous message.  I tried to bring up Darryl's message asking for donations to indicate we were a paid group which should have larger storage limits.  It didn't bring up his message and when I tried to correct it, I just confused it further.  If you respond, please respond to this message with the new topic.  Thanks and mea culpa.

Dale

On 3/8/2020 5:25 PM, Dale Smith wrote:

Darryl sent this message about a year ago when we moved over to groups.io.   The response was quick and overwhelming, so much so that Darryl had to ask people to stop sending contributions.  At the time this money was need to make us a paid group and was, if I remember, $110 at that time.  It is now $220.  Becoming a paid group was the price for getting transferred.  The fact that we got transferred is proof that he paid the money.

The point here is that paid groups have 20 GB of storage, not 1GB.   We may have just passed our 1 year mark and have reverted to being a free group.  This may be what generated the message.  I didn't check during the year to see if we were given that extra storage space, but I guess it is moot now.

As to contributions, $5 a month would be quite excessive.  With  our 1238 members, that would generate $6190.  Even $1 would generate $1238.   All to pay a $220 bill.  $220 divided by 1238 would equal a fair share per member at about 18 cents.  Obviously not everyone is going to contribute, but even so handling donations each year is a hassle and then returning excess contributions is even more of a hassle. A few people will probably carry this group if we need to go premium again.  

Before we get too involved in the logistics of paying for premium status, the question is whether or not we need the additional storage.  Our photo uploads are sized down to screen width (1024 pixels) to save space.  I transferred the photos and normally would have set the size at 1024 pixels at that time.  I checked and it appears that was what happened as one photo I checked was downsized from 974 kb to 244kb.  We could also thin our files some to weed out the chaff.  It wouldn't be much effort if the posters could edit their own folders.   I am listed as the owner of any folders where an owner couldn't be identified, Usually that is because they dropped out of the group, but might be the result of an email change.  They might be prime candidates for thinning.

I am not sure we need to do anything now though, as it will take us a while to use up the 200 megabytes.  That 244kb photo is typical of the largest size photos that fill the screen.  It would take us just over 800 photos of that size to fill our remaining space.

Dale

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Dale and others,

I fully agree.  Just $10 a year from 22 loyal readers of this group will float this boat fine.  If more space is needed, I am fully behind it.  I appreciate so much the efforts everyone puts in to keep contributing memories plus new ideas and model work. Thank you all.

Warner

On Mar 8, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Dale Smith <dalesierra@...> wrote:



My apologies for the confusing title of the previous message.  I tried to bring up Darryl's message asking for donations to indicate we were a paid group which should have larger storage limits.  It didn't bring up his message and when I tried to correct it, I just confused it further.  If you respond, please respond to this message with the new topic.  Thanks and mea culpa.

Dale

On 3/8/2020 5:25 PM, Dale Smith wrote:

Darryl sent this message about a year ago when we moved over to groups.io.   The response was quick and overwhelming, so much so that Darryl had to ask people to stop sending contributions.  At the time this money was need to make us a paid group and was, if I remember, $110 at that time.  It is now $220.  Becoming a paid group was the price for getting transferred.  The fact that we got transferred is proof that he paid the money.

The point here is that paid groups have 20 GB of storage, not 1GB.   We may have just passed our 1 year mark and have reverted to being a free group.  This may be what generated the message.  I didn't check during the year to see if we were given that extra storage space, but I guess it is moot now.

As to contributions, $5 a month would be quite excessive.  With  our 1238 members, that would generate $6190.  Even $1 would generate $1238.   All to pay a $220 bill.  $220 divided by 1238 would equal a fair share per member at about 18 cents.  Obviously not everyone is going to contribute, but even so handling donations each year is a hassle and then returning excess contributions is even more of a hassle. A few people will probably carry this group if we need to go premium again.  

Before we get too involved in the logistics of paying for premium status, the question is whether or not we need the additional storage.  Our photo uploads are sized down to screen width (1024 pixels) to save space.  I transferred the photos and normally would have set the size at 1024 pixels at that time.  I checked and it appears that was what happened as one photo I checked was downsized from 974 kb to 244kb.  We could also thin our files some to weed out the chaff.  It wouldn't be much effort if the posters could edit their own folders.   I am listed as the owner of any folders where an owner couldn't be identified, Usually that is because they dropped out of the group, but might be the result of an email change.  They might be prime candidates for thinning.

I am not sure we need to do anything now though, as it will take us a while to use up the 200 megabytes.  That 244kb photo is typical of the largest size photos that fill the screen.  It would take us just over 800 photos of that size to fill our remaining space.

Dale

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There is certainly so OLD content from the Yahoo early days that by now has been included in my web sites. I will take some time and remove it, but it may not add up to a whole lot.

Jeff

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