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Re: John Allen's family

rruss45826@...
 

In a message dated 9/8/2003 5:08:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
paul@... writes:
Ray,
I already tried Andy and MDC and Tony Koester and I'm currently working with
NMRA HQ to see if I can find the info.

Thanks anyway though. Anyone else have an idea?

Best regards,

--
Paul Richardson
Paul,
Maybe you can track down Andrew Allen?

Ray Russell
NMRA-40609
General Contractor
Norfolk & Western Railroad
Pocahontas Division
Circa 1958
Visit The "NEW" Pocahontas Website at:
Click here: N & W Pocahontas Division
http://members.aol.com/rruss45826/public_html/index.html

OR
Click here: Pocahontas Home
for the old website!
http://milliron.home.sprynet.com/Pocahontas/Pocahontas1.htm

Re: John Allen's family

Paul Richardson
 

Ray Russell wrote...
Give Andy Sperandeo a call! e has the contact info for the family last I heard.
========================================
Ray,
I already tried Andy and MDC and Tony Koester and I'm currently working with NMRA HQ to see if I can find the info.

Thanks anyway though. Anyone else have an idea?

Best regards,

--
Paul Richardson
Purgatory & Devil River Railroad
Garland, Texas

Ride the P&DR on the web at:

http://www.purgatoryanddevilriver.com

PLEASE REMEMBER TO SIGN THE GUEST BOOK

--

Re: John Allen's family

rruss45826@...
 

In a message dated 9/8/2003 2:54:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
paul@... writes:
Hi Gang,

I am a member of the HOn3 list and I have a product in mind that is
related to John's railroads. I would like to market the product but I
want the family's consent before I go any farther. Does anyone on
this list know how I might reach them or contact the estate?

Thanks in advance,

Paul Richardson
Paul,
Give Andy Sperandeo a call! e has the contact info for the family last I
heard.

Ray Russell
NMRA-40609
General Contractor
Norfolk & Western Railroad
Pocahontas Division
Circa 1958
Visit The "NEW" Pocahontas Website at:
Click here: N & W Pocahontas Division
OR
Click here: Pocahontas Home
for the old website!
http://milliron.home.sprynet.com/Pocahontas/Pocahontas1.htm

John Allen's family

Paul Richardson
 

I'm new to the list and I have a product I wish to market that is tied to John's railroads. I would like to contact his family to get their consent. Does anyone on this list know how I can reach them?

Mail, email or phone would be fine.

Thanks in advance,

--
Paul Richardson
Purgatory & Devil River Railroad
Garland, Texas

Ride the P&DR on the web at:

http://www.purgatoryanddevilriver.com

PLEASE REMEMBER TO SIGN THE GUEST BOOK

--

Re: Mavica FD Cameras

Steve Wesolowski
 

Hello,
I just joined this list and want to agree with Keevan Burnside:
If you can afford one, a Sony FD Mavica is nice, esp. for $170!
5+ years ago I bought an FD-5 for $300. 2+ years ago I bought an
FD-95 when they dropped below $500: its 20X Digital Zoom & multiple
higher resolutions help with model photos (vs no zoom on the FD5).
With pictures recorded on FDHD floppies, at home I soon copy them
onto my hard drive. I re-use floppies many times. With no film costs, I
shoot more pictures: sometimes quick/marginal pics turn out best.
I don't usually VACAtion with my computer. So, the least expensive
50+ floppies I suddenly NEEDED & bought at Office Depot in Anchorage,
AK last May were EASY to find compared to other media, so I didn't miss
ANY pictures I wanted, floppies cost $20. A second battery is useful.
steve w

John Allen's family

Paul Richardson
 

Hi Gang,

I am a member of the HOn3 list and I have a product in mind that is
related to John's railroads. I would like to market the product but I
want the family's consent before I go any farther. Does anyone on
this list know how I might reach them or contact the estate?

Thanks in advance,

Paul Richardson

Re: HO modular switching layout

Russell - Idaho USA <cottonwoodhobbies@...>
 

From small-layout-design group-
Interestingly, this is a modified timesaver off a mainline. Really well
done.

Makes the short passing track look as if it might actually be built that way
in the prototype. I never could imagine why such a short passing track would
be built, but it looks good here!
--
Russell - Unknown1 - Idaho USA
http://www.narrowgaugenews.net
idahorails-subscribe@... - An Idaho Railroad News and Discussion
Group
July is National WHAT Month?
<http://www.worldzone.net/recreation/cottonwood/images/beans.wav>

From: Larry Blanchard <lgb@...>
<http://users2.ev1.net/~jssand/SFJct/Index.htm>
Slightly larger than some, but not excessively so. Would also be
nice in N gauge.

Re: Who was the Meandering Railroad?

Keevan Burnside
 

In a message dated 8/17/03 12:28:15 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
thokel@... writes:

<< Unfortunately, I don't have a scanner (yet), so I can't send you the
photos. >>

Tom, a suggestion.

Buy a digital camera. Two years ago I bought a Sony FD Mavica for $300.
It's currently on sale at WalMart for $170. (A friend of mine bought one this
weekend.)

It's features, which appeals to me and others, is that the pictures are
recorded on a standard disk and that it has an Optical Zoom of 10X. By recording
on a disk means that you can directly off-load them onto your hard drive and
insert them into documents or, can email them directly without the
interpretation that a scanner would give them. (I have a scanner also, which I use for
inputting old photos I want on the computer. And for other uses too.)

Keevan Burnside
Colorado & Midwestern

Re: Who was the Meandering Railroad?

tonkamoes <atticat@...>
 

Thank you Tom for the nice note. I have talked to the guys at PFM and
they confirm that #43 is infact the advertising loco for the PFM ads.
John did also keep the loco and letter it for the G&D. The MR
Magazine gang has already contacted me wanting a news article about
Jim's #31. I am still in shock to see this loco make it through so
many years with no ware on the paint and very little ware on the
wheels. Prpbably when used on the G&D. I suspect that the 2-8-0
mentioned in the book is still out there someplace. Unless it was
sitting on the G&D during the fire. Also it could have been re-
lettered. Yes, the lettering on #31 is a dry transfer process the
same as John used. The plans to produce Squawbottom station is still
on the list of the many things to do around here. Our new S-scale
kits have been keeping us very busy. I will be using #31 on our Pine
Canyon RR, but change nothing. Have been thinking of adding PFM sound
though, but might just leave the loco as Jim left it. Either Jim or
O.S. Latimore installed a can motor saving me the trouble. I was just
searching PFM on ebay's site when this loco popped up. I was looking
for a walkaround throttle for the PFM Sound System II. It was only on
ebay for a few minutes. It takes about three hours for new items to
post, but the clock starts as soon as the seller uploads. Happy
Railroading, Keith
--- In GandD@..., thokel@f... wrote:
Hi Keith,

I did a Yahoo search and came up with the following link:
http://www.lonestarregion.com/cars.html. Littimore's layout was
named
the "Texas & Africa." You may purchase his and other memorial cars,
in both HO and N scale, from the NMRA Texas Lone Star Region. There
were a couple of articles published in HO Monthly that were
titled "Meandering About the GD Line," so it wouldn't surprise me
if
someone, maybe a GD fan, named their model railroad Meandering
Railroad.

Since Jim Findley lived in the Dallas-Ft Worth area, that even
gives
more credibility to your find. Congratulations ... we know that TP
#31 is in good hands.

I had searched high and low for a picture of TP's 2-10-0, because I
have plans to number and letter my 2-10-0 Frisco as Jim's TP. I
never
found a magazine photo of it, but thanks to you, I now have several
good color photos of it. I believe Jim used dry transfers on his
tenders and most likely they were "chartpak" P.T. Barnum 24PT. I
used
to use them for my Pine Ridge RR lettering. I also beleive that
there
is a real good chance that John Allen poured the lead in #31's
boiler.

BTW, on page 140 of Modeling Railroading with John Allen, there is
a
story about Jim Findley playing a trick on John with the chimney on
Squawbotton Station and it implies that Jim built the station,
which
you also have in your possession. As a segway, how are your plans
coming along to offer this statiion as a built up kit? Please keep
my
name on the list.

Regarding the picture of GD#43 on the turntable: I, too, recall
seeing that picture. I'll do some seaching for you. (It must be
a "Trackside Photo" versus a picture in a GD article.) I did find a
picture of a PFM ATSF 2-8-4 #4100 on a spur next to the GD
turntable,
with a PFM ATSF 2-8-0 #1950 on the turntable in background, in
PFM's
4th Edition (1958-59) catalog. The PFM 5th Edition catalog also
shows
a lone shot of #4100. John no doubt painted and weathered these
locos, so there's a good chance that John kept the loco(s) and
lettered them for the GD. Unfortunately, I don't have a scanner
(yet), so I can't send you the photos. (Maybe, Andy Sperandeo knows
the answers to some of these questions.)

Model Railroader may be interested in printing one of your photos
of
TP #31. If you're interested, I'd drop Andy a line at
Asperandeo@m...

I'm a big fan of Jim Findley's, and glad that he left us many
construction articles. In fact, just last night I built a concrete
tunnel portal from one of Jim's articles.

Keith, thanks again for your GandD Group postings and the
photos ...
past and present.

Tom Hokel
Pine Ridge RR

Re: Who was the Meandering Railroad?

thokel@...
 

Hi Keith,

I did a Yahoo search and came up with the following link:
http://www.lonestarregion.com/cars.html. Littimore's layout was named
the "Texas & Africa." You may purchase his and other memorial cars,
in both HO and N scale, from the NMRA Texas Lone Star Region. There
were a couple of articles published in HO Monthly that were
titled "Meandering About the GD Line," so it wouldn't surprise me if
someone, maybe a GD fan, named their model railroad Meandering
Railroad.

Since Jim Findley lived in the Dallas-Ft Worth area, that even gives
more credibility to your find. Congratulations ... we know that TP
#31 is in good hands.

I had searched high and low for a picture of TP's 2-10-0, because I
have plans to number and letter my 2-10-0 Frisco as Jim's TP. I never
found a magazine photo of it, but thanks to you, I now have several
good color photos of it. I believe Jim used dry transfers on his
tenders and most likely they were "chartpak" P.T. Barnum 24PT. I used
to use them for my Pine Ridge RR lettering. I also beleive that there
is a real good chance that John Allen poured the lead in #31's boiler.

BTW, on page 140 of Modeling Railroading with John Allen, there is a
story about Jim Findley playing a trick on John with the chimney on
Squawbotton Station and it implies that Jim built the station, which
you also have in your possession. As a segway, how are your plans
coming along to offer this statiion as a built up kit? Please keep my
name on the list.

Regarding the picture of GD#43 on the turntable: I, too, recall
seeing that picture. I'll do some seaching for you. (It must be
a "Trackside Photo" versus a picture in a GD article.) I did find a
picture of a PFM ATSF 2-8-4 #4100 on a spur next to the GD turntable,
with a PFM ATSF 2-8-0 #1950 on the turntable in background, in PFM's
4th Edition (1958-59) catalog. The PFM 5th Edition catalog also shows
a lone shot of #4100. John no doubt painted and weathered these
locos, so there's a good chance that John kept the loco(s) and
lettered them for the GD. Unfortunately, I don't have a scanner
(yet), so I can't send you the photos. (Maybe, Andy Sperandeo knows
the answers to some of these questions.)

Model Railroader may be interested in printing one of your photos of
TP #31. If you're interested, I'd drop Andy a line at
Asperandeo@....

I'm a big fan of Jim Findley's, and glad that he left us many
construction articles. In fact, just last night I built a concrete
tunnel portal from one of Jim's articles.

Keith, thanks again for your GandD Group postings and the photos ...
past and present.

Tom Hokel
Pine Ridge RR

Who was the Meandering Railroad?

tonkamoes <atticat@...>
 

I came across a locomotive that has the name Meandering Railroad on
the tender. It is from the collection of the late O.S. Lattimore in
Ft. Worth, Texas. Was this his road name? He was the previous owner
of Jim Findley's 2-10-0 that I bought a couple weeks ago. We find
that he got it from Jim's estate. We are interested to see if there
ia any G&D connection to the Meandering Railroad, possibly an
interchange. Happy Railroading, Keith Blanchard (Pine Canyon RR)

Re: Link to Jim Findley's 2-8-0

Keevan Burnside
 

In a message dated 8/15/03 9:48:18 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
atticat@... writes:

<< The link can also be
found at the bottom of our Pine Canyon RR page.
http://www.pinecanyonscalemodels.com/G&Dmemorial.htm >>

Thanks Keith for the pictures and the page.

Keevan

Re: Link to Jim Findley's 2-10-0

tonkamoes <atticat@...>
 

Oops...Yes, it is a 2-10-0, my mistake....And Yes, it probably was
used by Jim during his visits with John. I have no doubt about that.
Like John, Jim probably had a few locomotives that he would take with
him during visits to other layouts. Happy Railroading, Keith
--- In GandD@..., "okrasaghia" <okrasaghia@y...> wrote:
Great pictures Keith though it's still a Russian (2-10-0)!
Anyone wanting to see them be sure to copy the full link:
http://www.pinecanyonscalemodels.com/G&Dmemorial.htm

I have the MR August 1982 issue where Tioga Pass is the cover story
but no #31 in the pictures. The other engines in the article are
very
similar to yours.

After checking that I remembered something in Westcott's book:
"The Andrews peddler run was home for several older, smaller
engines.
Sometimes it would have a 2-8-0 like No. 26 or No. 28, which could
each take ten cars up the hill, or perhaps a Tioga Pass 2-8-0 or
2-10-0."
MR with John Allen, Operating the G.D.Line page 115 in my copy.

Also the page before mentiones Tioga Pass:
"The other scheduled trains were run by the Andrews operator. These
were the Tioga Pass interchange trains, 41, 42, 43, and 44. The
mainline stub to Cold Shoulder was used as a staging track for these
trains, and 41 was scheduled to leave there and arrive at Port about
an hour after 15 had left. Train 41 would leave its cars at Port,
pick
up any cars bound for the interchange, and return as No. 42. Trains
43
and 44 were similarly scheduled to work in and out of Port an hour
after No. 35's departure. These trains were often powered by Tioga
Pass locomotives to represent the connecting line."
MR with John Allen, Operating the G.D.Line page 114 in my copy.

The Tioga Pass RR does not look suited for a Russian with tight
curves
and turnouts. Could it be that Tioga Pass #31 actually lived its
life
at the G&D and is the 2-10-0 mentioned in the first quote above?

Again, thanks for sharing this Keith.

Regards, Okrasa

Re: Link to Jim Findley's 2-10-0

okrasaghia
 

Great pictures Keith though it's still a Russian (2-10-0)!
Anyone wanting to see them be sure to copy the full link:
http://www.pinecanyonscalemodels.com/G&Dmemorial.htm

I have the MR August 1982 issue where Tioga Pass is the cover story
but no #31 in the pictures. The other engines in the article are very
similar to yours.

After checking that I remembered something in Westcott's book:
"The Andrews peddler run was home for several older, smaller engines.
Sometimes it would have a 2-8-0 like No. 26 or No. 28, which could
each take ten cars up the hill, or perhaps a Tioga Pass 2-8-0 or
2-10-0."
MR with John Allen, Operating the G.D.Line page 115 in my copy.

Also the page before mentiones Tioga Pass:
"The other scheduled trains were run by the Andrews operator. These
were the Tioga Pass interchange trains, 41, 42, 43, and 44. The
mainline stub to Cold Shoulder was used as a staging track for these
trains, and 41 was scheduled to leave there and arrive at Port about
an hour after 15 had left. Train 41 would leave its cars at Port, pick
up any cars bound for the interchange, and return as No. 42. Trains 43
and 44 were similarly scheduled to work in and out of Port an hour
after No. 35's departure. These trains were often powered by Tioga
Pass locomotives to represent the connecting line."
MR with John Allen, Operating the G.D.Line page 114 in my copy.

The Tioga Pass RR does not look suited for a Russian with tight curves
and turnouts. Could it be that Tioga Pass #31 actually lived its life
at the G&D and is the 2-10-0 mentioned in the first quote above?

Again, thanks for sharing this Keith.

Regards, Okrasa

Re: Who was Tioga Pass?

caboose1001
 

Why doesn't anything like this ever happen to me?

Bob

Link to Jim Findley's 2-8-0

tonkamoes <atticat@...>
 

Hi Gang, Here is a link to Jim findley's 2-8-0 of the Toiga Pass. We
have confirmed it to be original and un-touched, except the previous
owner installed a can motor. The boiler is poured solid with led in
the same manner as John's locos were. John's locos were hand painted
with a brush, however Jim's #31 was painted with an airbrush. John
was an true artist and Jim was a true craftsman. We have moved all
these artifacts to our new G&D Memorial page. The link can also be
found at the bottom of our Pine Canyon RR page.
http://www.pinecanyonscalemodels.com/G&Dmemorial.htm
Happy Railroading, Keith Blanchard

Re: Who was Tioga Pass?

tonkamoes <atticat@...>
 

Hi again Okrasha. It's been a long time since we chatted. The number
is 31. I will get some great pics on the website today. I no longer
have my old MR mags. It would be great if you could locate it on
Jim's layout and email a pic for our website, to go with the loco. I
still have not found the pic of John's #43. I know I have seen a pic
published with it sitting on the turntable in Great Divide. It must
have been in the Craftsman sometime between 1969 and 1974. Thank you
again, Keith Blanchard
--- In GandD@..., "okrasaghia" <okrasaghia@y...> wrote:
Indeed a fine find.
Do you have a road number or even better if you post pictures at
your
site? I know where I got my MR issue with Tioga Pass and could try
spotting it. I remember most engines in those pictures are
Consolidations though.

Regards Okrasa

Re: Who was Tioga Pass?

tonkamoes <atticat@...>
 

Hi guys,
Yes, I will be posting some great pics of this locomotive on our web
site just below John's #43. I guess it is time to make a G&D memorial
page by itself. The pics will be much better than on ebay. You can
capture them from our site and post them on this forum under photos
files. I will get it done later today and update the site.
I am a very happy camper today. I asked the seller if he had any more
with this road name and he said no. Happy Railroading, Keith
Blanchard, pinecanyonscalemodels.com

--- In GandD@..., "Clayton, Paul D" <paul.d.clayton@l...>
wrote:
You can still view the auction information on eBay with the URL of:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3141128982

There are 9 pictures on the page of various angles of the engine and
boiler.

Stunning acquisition for $190.00!!!

Pdc


-----Original Message-----
From: okrasaghia [mailto:okrasaghia@y...]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:01 AM
To: GandD@...
Subject: [GandD] Re: Who was Tioga Pass?


Indeed a fine find.
Do you have a road number or even better if you post pictures at
your
site? I know where I got my MR issue with Tioga Pass and could try
spotting it. I remember most engines in those pictures are
Consolidations though.

Regards Okrasa



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Re: Who was Tioga Pass?

Clayton, Paul D <paul.d.clayton@...>
 

You can still view the auction information on eBay with the URL of:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3141128982

There are 9 pictures on the page of various angles of the engine and
boiler.

Stunning acquisition for $190.00!!!

Pdc

-----Original Message-----
From: okrasaghia [mailto:okrasaghia@...]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:01 AM
To: GandD@...
Subject: [GandD] Re: Who was Tioga Pass?


Indeed a fine find.
Do you have a road number or even better if you post pictures at your
site? I know where I got my MR issue with Tioga Pass and could try
spotting it. I remember most engines in those pictures are
Consolidations though.

Regards Okrasa



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Re: Who was Tioga Pass?

okrasaghia
 

Indeed a fine find.
Do you have a road number or even better if you post pictures at your
site? I know where I got my MR issue with Tioga Pass and could try
spotting it. I remember most engines in those pictures are
Consolidations though.

Regards Okrasa