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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GandD] The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Randy Lee Decker
 

You can do that?  


On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:31 PM Charles Kinzer <ckinzer@...> wrote:

I know what you mean.  I’m still trying to decide if I want my text to display in green or amber.

 

Charles E. “Chuck” Kinzer

 

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From: Jeffrey L Witt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:09 PM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GandD] The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

 

I updated the site last night, you should be able to save the full-size images now; but clicking on a slide in the slide view window now doesn't take you to the next slide, you have to use the arrows at the top of the page. It takes you to a new window with the full size image with scroll bars - awkward.

This is an unfortunate limitation of the program, which veterans of gdlines.org are already used to - it's been that way since Peter first built the web site in 2006! But in those days, he limited the image sizes, too, based on dial-up connections (remeber those?) and VGA monitors. What a long way we've come. One of these days I'll rebuild the old pages at high resolution, with added material that's only on gdlines.info.

In any case, now you can use the "down arrow" to download (or view in your browser and save, depending on your settings) to get the full-size image.

Cheers, Jeff

 


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GandD] The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Charles Kinzer
 

I know what you mean.  I’m still trying to decide if I want my text to display in green or amber.

 

Charles E. “Chuck” Kinzer

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jeffrey L Witt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:09 PM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GandD] The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

 

I updated the site last night, you should be able to save the full-size images now; but clicking on a slide in the slide view window now doesn't take you to the next slide, you have to use the arrows at the top of the page. It takes you to a new window with the full size image with scroll bars - awkward.

This is an unfortunate limitation of the program, which veterans of gdlines.org are already used to - it's been that way since Peter first built the web site in 2006! But in those days, he limited the image sizes, too, based on dial-up connections (remeber those?) and VGA monitors. What a long way we've come. One of these days I'll rebuild the old pages at high resolution, with added material that's only on gdlines.info.

In any case, now you can use the "down arrow" to download (or view in your browser and save, depending on your settings) to get the full-size image.

Cheers, Jeff

 


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GandD] The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Jeffrey L Witt
 

I updated the site last night, you should be able to save the full-size images now; but clicking on a slide in the slide view window now doesn't take you to the next slide, you have to use the arrows at the top of the page. It takes you to a new window with the full size image with scroll bars - awkward.

This is an unfortunate limitation of the program, which veterans of gdlines.org are already used to - it's been that way since Peter first built the web site in 2006! But in those days, he limited the image sizes, too, based on dial-up connections (remeber those?) and VGA monitors. What a long way we've come. One of these days I'll rebuild the old pages at high resolution, with added material that's only on gdlines.info.

In any case, now you can use the "down arrow" to download (or view in your browser and save, depending on your settings) to get the full-size image.

Cheers, Jeff


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GandD] The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Bob Friddle
 



Thanks, Jeff, guess I never took it in til now. What a fun project that would make if I Only had the skill! A guy can dream, right?


Bob Friddle,


On May 18, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Jeffrey L Witt via groups.io <jlwitt@...> wrote:

 It's the C.D. Grandt, here's a photo/description of it.

http://gdlines.org/GDLines/GD_Galleries/Magazines/HO_Monthly/slides/HOM-19500100-011-300_70.html 

And another...
http://gdlines.org/GDLines/GD_Galleries/Magazines/RMC/slides/RMC-19480800-001-300_70.html 

And another...
http://gdlines.info/HOM-19481000-001-300_20.jpg 

With a more detailed description - it's actually G&D Loco #2:
http://gdlines.info/HOM-19481000-002-600_20.jpg 

Jeff

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Re: The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Jeffrey L Witt
 

Keith Trinity pointed out an issue with the gallery...

The original TIFF were ~20M, I tweaked and saved as JPEG with minimum compression to ~9M. But when he used the download arrow, and saved it, it was < 1M!!!!

Apparently I accidentally used a setting in the jAlbum web builder program (a newer version of the one the late Peter Prunka used to build the original gdlines.com site in 2006) that apparently only lets you download the "web" version of the image. I will fix that and upload a revised gallery...DOH!!!!

Everyone should have full access to Bob's photos in all their glory, and I will remedy the situation...

Jeff


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GandD] The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Jeffrey L Witt
 


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GandD] The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Randy Lee Decker
 

The little engine on the short track is custom built by John.  Jeff has some nice early construction photo's of it and I think it was an article from John very early.  late 40's...?   Part of the old engines the G&D kept for movie work.
    Being good friends with Glenn Beier since the early days of college, this theme most likely came directly from the many trips Glenn took to photograph so many of the narrow gauge and short lines still in operation out west in the 1950's.  His Steam Echoes Book highlights many of the actors and movies that used steam engines back in the day as well.  

Randy   


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GandD] The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Bob Friddle
 

Yes, that’s the one. Appears to be pulling a four wheeled flat car full of milk cartons. 

Thanks,


Bob Friddle, Minneapolis


On May 18, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Rick Jones via groups.io <r.t.jones@...> wrote:

On 5/18/2020 10:49 AM, Bob Friddle wrote:
OK I am just stunned! My daughter forbids me to say it, but these are just so AWESOME! The lighting and clarity and detail, and new vantage points and oh my...what is that contraption right in the center of slide 4? I don't have the memory that some of you have but I don't remember seeing it ever before?!?!

  Are you talking about the 4-2-0 on one of the stub tracks off of the
turntable? Looks like one of the early steam engines brought to the US
from England? I think I've seen it in a couple of photos before, but it
hasn't been photographed as much as John's other engines. I think it's
just another of his tongue-in-cheek whimsy models.

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                 Rick Jones

If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular?



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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GandD] The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Rick Jones
 

On 5/18/2020 10:49 AM, Bob Friddle wrote:
OK I am just stunned! My daughter forbids me to say it, but these are just so AWESOME! The lighting and clarity and detail, and new vantage points and oh my...what is that contraption right in the center of slide 4? I don't have the memory that some of you have but I don't remember seeing it ever before?!?!
Are you talking about the 4-2-0 on one of the stub tracks off of the turntable? Looks like one of the early steam engines brought to the US from England? I think I've seen it in a couple of photos before, but it hasn't been photographed as much as John's other engines. I think it's just another of his tongue-in-cheek whimsy models.

--

Rick Jones

If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular?


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GandD] The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Bob Friddle
 

OK I am just stunned! My daughter forbids me to say it, but these are just so AWESOME! The lighting and clarity and detail, and new vantage points and oh my...what is that contraption right in the center of slide 4? I don't have the memory that some of you have but I don't remember seeing it ever before?!?!
What a great gift from the past!!! Who woulda thunkit??? Thanks so much to all responsible for finding, preserving and sharing these!
Bob Friddle
Gabrielle Lines - Route of the Angels
Minneapolis

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From: GandD@groups.io <GandD@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Jones via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 5:29 PM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GandD] The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

On 5/17/2020 4:45 PM, Russell Courtenay via groups.io wrote:
Correct link:
https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgdlines.org%2FBob_Hogan_Photos%2FBob_Hogan_Photos%2Falbum%2Findex.html&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cbob.friddle%40minneapolismn.gov%7C96f73f051ecf407b84b208d7fab1be30%7C0bfb3f5ae8ea4d54b0212b2f910c715f%7C0%7C0%7C637253513622685938&amp;sdata=mk2oeXC%2Bd%2BMNbd3yeUlafaK%2FBMbloHAydW3Dy3HMOsY%3D&amp;reserved=0
Thanks.

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Rick Jones

If flying is so safe, why do they call the airport the terminal?



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Re: The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Ken Plumbly
 

On Sun, 2020-05-17 at 18:54 -0400, Michael Kennedy wrote:
These photos are magnificent!  Thank you for sharing!

Mike Kennedy
The D & B Lumber Co.
"The Best Wood You Ever Saw!"

Indeed! I concur! Thank you very much! :)

Ken


Re: The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Jeffrey L Witt
 

Two seconds after I posted I realized, deleted the post, and made a new one. Sorry for the confusion.


Re: The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Michael Kennedy
 

These photos are magnificent!  Thank you for sharing!

Mike Kennedy
The D & B Lumber Co.
"The Best Wood You Ever Saw!"

On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 15:49, Jeffrey L Witt via groups.io <jlwitt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Here is a direct link:
file:///C:/export/gdlines_dot_com/Bob_Hogan_Photos/Bob_Hogan_Photos/album/index.html 

Also included is a pdf of his 2013 RMC article.

I also freshened-up the gdlines.org home page.

Please let me know if there are any issues with an email to info at gdlines dot org.

Enjoy!


Re: The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Rick Jones
 

On 5/17/2020 4:45 PM, Russell Courtenay via groups.io wrote:
Correct link:
http://gdlines.org/Bob_Hogan_Photos/Bob_Hogan_Photos/album/index.html
Thanks.

--

Rick Jones

If flying is so safe, why do they call the airport the terminal?


Re: The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Russell Courtenay
 

Correct link:
http://gdlines.org/Bob_Hogan_Photos/Bob_Hogan_Photos/album/index.html

Russell Courtenay
Solemnity and profundity are sublime in inequity. 


On May 17, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Rick Jones <r.t.jones@...> wrote:

On 5/17/2020 2:48 PM, Jeffrey L Witt via groups.io wrote:
Here is a direct link:
file:///C:/export/gdlines_dot_com/Bob_Hogan_Photos/Bob_Hogan_Photos/album/index.html

  That's not a valid HTTP link.

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                 Rick Jones

I'm neither for nor against apathy.




Re: The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Randy Lee Decker
 

Hats off to you Jeff, for the work and for paying the costs to keep this high resolution website up and running..!  Hats off to Bob for some great "crystal clear" photography work. !   I am just now snapping lines and setting up the back wall benchwork for the French Gulch run out to Drains...  There are photo's here that show every detail of the arch bridge stonework and scenic details.    Every photo has something new in it for me.   We all love new pictures....     Big thanks to Bob Hogan.  !    

Randy 

On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 3:49 PM Jeffrey L Witt via groups.io <jlwitt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Here is a direct link:
file:///C:/export/gdlines_dot_com/Bob_Hogan_Photos/Bob_Hogan_Photos/album/index.html 

Also included is a pdf of his 2013 RMC article.

I also freshened-up the gdlines.org home page.

Please let me know if there are any issues with an email to info at gdlines dot org.

Enjoy!


Re: The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Rick Jones
 

On 5/17/2020 2:48 PM, Jeffrey L Witt via groups.io wrote:
Here is a direct link:
file:///C:/export/gdlines_dot_com/Bob_Hogan_Photos/Bob_Hogan_Photos/album/index.html
That's not a valid HTTP link.

--

Rick Jones

I'm neither for nor against apathy.


The Bob Hogan 1964 Photo Galley is now on gdlines.org

Jeffrey L Witt
 

Here is a direct link:
Also included is a pdf of his 2013 RMC article.
 
I also freshened-up the gdlines.org home page.
 
Please let me know if there are any issues with an email to info at gdlines dot org.
 
Enjoy!


Re: I recieved a very nice note from a G&D operator from 1969 era, here is some of his correspondence;

Tom Milam
 

I recall a photo with John leaning against the kitchen counter(?) supervising A timesaver session in the Model Railroad article on Building a Snap Track Timesaver. 
Johns appearance sure changes what few photos of him we have, especially his last years, just looks like a tiny man from what image I had of him, never seeing him in person

Tom Milam
Just love the G&D 


On May 14, 2020, at 1:54 PM, Tom Milam <ncngrr@...> wrote:

Spelled my own name wrong , working with a mask and gloves. 
MILAM not “n”

Tom Milam


On May 14, 2020, at 1:12 PM, Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...> wrote:


Ohhh excellent,  Hey Ken....   I was not sure if you were part of the group or had an interest in all the John Allen continued discussions.     Very good...  Any stories any of you guy's remember are great fun for the rest of us...
 
   In hindsight we all wish you guy's all had brand new Nikons and good film and years of experience, tripods and Johns guidance.  We can never have enough photographs of Johns place.   But to find anything new is always fun...   I was very happy to see your photo of the Timesaver connected up with both units on the table.   Photographs taken outside the layout room are scarce....!  Photo's of John in his element are rare as well.... We do find many shots of the room but different views are always great fun...  there are at least a few shots that I think were usable and show different views I have not seen before.  So all in all... fantastic to see...they went off to Jeff as is I could not do anything to enhance them here.  

Very nice to speak with you...  

Randy    

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 1:14 PM Ken Moordigian via groups.io <TheKenWiley=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Ahh... The timesaver!  I remember that name.  Yes, that's my note Randy was quoting.  And yes, the kibitzing was always heavy, and yes, John was vocal in his opinions, which is probably one of the reasons he wrote so many articles.

My switching experience was limited by my age and exposure to switching, but I'd rather switch a peddler than watch trains run around the room, so the GandD was perfect fit for me.  It was a great learning experience in many ways.

Ken Moordigian
818-522-4292
Jackson Livery
”Mules skinned while you wait"!"

On May 13, 2020 4:32 PM, Kurt Youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:
No doubt I’ve related this anecdote in the past, but here it is again because it always gives me a chuckle.

My first experience with the Timesaver was after an ops session in late summer 1961 (when I was stationed at Fort Ord). I watched someone struggle with it and was invited to try it myself. After a move or two (I was new to switching and quite perplexed) I heard John whisper (loudly enough so I could hear him), “Oh, I don’t think I’d have done it that way!” I immediately knew I was in deep doodoo. No surprise, I never finished it.

Great story, Randy. Thanx for sharing the note.

Kurt Youngmann

On May 13, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...> wrote:

--John met me at the door, kitchen door as I recall.  I had phoned him a few days before, and he gave me directions and the time.  Everyone, (5 people maybe?), were sitting around the kitchen table.  I introduced myself and my model train history while John and another set up the switching puzzle.  John explained the puzzle.  I don't remember the mechanism for placing cars, initial and final; if there were cards drawn, slips in a hat, or whims of the attendees, but the was a switch list at startup, what was where, where they were going, and my train order at the end.



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—Marcel Proust, Remembrance of Things Past


Re: I recieved a very nice note from a G&D operator from 1969 era, here is some of his correspondence;

Kurt Youngmann
 

My recollection from the half dozen times or so that I met him is that he wanted the railroad to speak for him. But I never had the chance to see him at NMRA events where, I’ve read, he had a much more expansive personality.

The problem is that this was all so long ago and memories have a tendency to dim as we grow older.

Kurt Youngmann

On May 14, 2020, at 2:47 PM, Ken Moordigian via groups.io <TheKenWiley@...> wrote:

I seem to recall John was sure to stay out of any pics taken.  I don't remember if he wanted to show the layout or avoid the camera...



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