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Re: Original Drawing Size.

Ken Plumbly
 

Glad to see a portion of the St Claire Northern was preserved, Irv Schultz and John Allen were my two main
inspirations. I tried when I was a teen to replicate the coal dock on Irv's layout...

Ken


On Fri, 2019-07-12 at 17:45 -0700, Randy Lee Decker wrote:
Thought since I was talking about preservation and the future disposition of model railroading historic memorabilia, I'd include this official brief on the new NMRA Museum Space.  I am sure some of us have not seen this. 

https://www.nmra.org/magic-scale-model-railroading-gallery

Randy

Re: Original Drawing Size.

Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...>
 

Thought since I was talking about preservation and the future disposition of model railroading historic memorabilia, I'd include this official brief on the new NMRA Museum Space.  I am sure some of us have not seen this. 

https://www.nmra.org/magic-scale-model-railroading-gallery

Randy

Re: Port and the bridge:

Russell Courtenay
 

I don’t think so. 

Your email address is a gmail, it includes Google Drive file storage and a YouTube account for free. You can upload to either of these and share the link here. 

Russell Courtenay
July is national what month?

On Jul 12, 2019, at 4:59 PM, Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...> wrote:

Is it possible to load a short video into a message?  the file is 291.00MB  Curious if IO allows this....   Thanks
Randy

Re: Port and the bridge:

Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...>
 

Makes sense Drew and Warner..., I just do not see a way to load a short Vid into my photos... Thought I'd give it a try. 

Randy  

Randy  


On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 7:24 PM Drew M. via Groups.Io <phillydrewcifer=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Most email servers have a maximum message attachment size. Most are 20-25mb.

Drew in Philly

Modeling the pre-Depression years.

Sent from TypeApp
On Jul 12, 2019, at 18:59, Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...> wrote:
Is it possible to load a short video into a message?  the file is 291.00MB  Curious if IO allows this....   Thanks
Randy

Re: Port and the bridge:

Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...>
 

Yeah I just tried it the video loads to 99% and then while configuring it just poof disappears and no video in the message.  It must just be to big...    
     It's on the facebook page.    I just thought some of the guys who don't "facebook" might like to see the Electric line up and running. 
    The cobblestone streets are in now, sidewalks are coming along, Andy's Drug Store is being drawn tonight as is the Orpheum Theater, some more bridges and Am going to have to cut the West Divide Team & Transfer track into the wall soon...  what a mess..  Also John had TWO mirrors on the end of the theater street.    Not just one.  

I always wondered why he called it the "Orpheum" ? 

Randy      


On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 7:14 PM Warner Swarner via Groups.Io <wbswarner=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I’m not good at computer stuff but I think 291 meg is too big for my email.  
I used to do drop box but forgot how to do that and it ran out.  
I sure don’t know this IO stuff.  My kids or wife do Facebook for me.  I can’t get tagging right. 



On Jul 12, 2019, at 3:59 PM, Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...> wrote:

Is it possible to load a short video into a message?  the file is 291.00MB  Curious if IO allows this....   Thanks
Randy

Re: Port and the bridge:

Drew M.
 

Most email servers have a maximum message attachment size. Most are 20-25mb.

Drew in Philly

Modeling the pre-Depression years.

Sent from TypeApp

On Jul 12, 2019, at 18:59, Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...> wrote:
Is it possible to load a short video into a message?  the file is 291.00MB  Curious if IO allows this....   Thanks
Randy

Re: Port and the bridge:

Warner Swarner
 

I’m not good at computer stuff but I think 291 meg is too big for my email.  
I used to do drop box but forgot how to do that and it ran out.  
I sure don’t know this IO stuff.  My kids or wife do Facebook for me.  I can’t get tagging right. 



On Jul 12, 2019, at 3:59 PM, Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...> wrote:

Is it possible to load a short video into a message?  the file is 291.00MB  Curious if IO allows this....   Thanks
Randy

Re: Port and the bridge:

Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...>
 

Is it possible to load a short video into a message?  the file is 291.00MB  Curious if IO allows this....   Thanks
Randy

Re: "The Book", woooo hoooo...

Joseph Melhorn
 

Miracle of miracles! I’m now in possession of the coveted “Revised Edition” of the book! It arrived in today’s mail, and it looks like it was never used, crisp, tight, unmarred pages and the dust cover is clean with no tears or folds. Wow, I’m stoked. For everyone’s info, here are the three versions of “The Book” with publishing info and ISBN, to aid you in your own searches:

Model Railroading with John Allen by Linn H. Westcott

Published by Kalmbach Publishing Company, Books Division - 1981 (1st ed.)

Paperback edition

ISBN 10: 0890245592 - ISBN 13: 9780890245590

 

Model Railroading with John Allen by Linn H. Westcott

Publisher: Kalmbach Pub Co. - 1996

Hardcover edition

ISBN 10: 0890242984 - ISBN 13: 9780890242988

 

Model Railroading with John Allen by Bob Hayden and Linn H. Westcott

Publisher: Benchmark Publications, Incorporated - 2011

Hardcover edition

ISBN-10: 096154676x - ISBN-13: 9780961546762

 

Joe Melhorn

Sahuarita, AZ

 

Re: Mystery Siding behind Port on the high bridge

Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...>
 

Whoops going to fast again...   That's behind the "West Divide Team and Transfer" facility.                         not the produce warehouse..     Here
   http://www.gdlines.org/GDLines/GD_Galleries/The_Slides/Set_01/slides/s1_023_downtown_unkdate-orig.html

And an early build photo showing his Cut into the Wall like I am going to do just to the left and behind the Witt Towers building down low... here

http://www.gdlines.org/GDLines/GD_Galleries/The_Slides/Set_00/slides/s0_074_port_jul68-orig.html

 The siding I am peaking of in in the larger layout drawings in Linns Book.    If you are curious please look behind Port Station you'll see a siding that ends there..  I guess is he was going to connect this blind siding to the tack in front of West Divide.   He never got around to it.   

Randy

Mystery Siding behind Port on the high bridge

Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...>
 


-- Now that I am working the West Divide area and the siding track that runs over the Coal tipple and behind and over the Theater, there is no mistaking the temptation (and I am sure I will just go ahead and do it) in connection that track as a runaround siding through the connection to the high bridge track just behind the Watson House and Port Station... John certainly must have considered as well.  as there is the space to do it and John actually had more space than I do in that area.    Tom first pointed this little hidden siding to me a while back.  It makes little sense to have a blind feature like that bhut if it connected through this could be the idea John had for that turnouts location.
 
 Also, there is , what appears to be, a working track even behind this siding track and the coal tipple overhead..  It runs under the Produce Building.   it could be cars cut in half to give the illusion of a full track or I am considering cutting into the  sheetrock and 2x4 wall there to create this hidden track/siding.  I do have room for a turnout to make it function for about 3 cars max...   These things slow me down but wow what a nice feature to have and with the way they layout there is no way John did not also consider having them.  I think he was just buried in moving forward and never got back to them later. 

Does anyone remember seeing the cars under the Produce Building in West Divide?  

Randy

  


randyleedecker@...

Re: John Allen Memorial Breakfast

Bob Friddle
 

oops, my mistake, I was thinking chet but it’s Whit towers

Thanks,


Bob Friddle,


On Jul 10, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Randy Lee Decker via Groups.Io <randyleedecker@...> wrote:

Well that's John... Meat Pies is pretty funny...  so it seems he would have done that purposely as and I do think that is a small t and not an f...    But no matter...   like Sgt. Ennis  we may never be sure who this represented.    


On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 5:43 PM Bob Friddle <bob.friddle@...> wrote:

Looks like Chet to me, probably an insider swipe at Mr. Towers

 

From: GandD@groups.io [mailto:GandD@groups.io] On Behalf Of Charles Kinzer via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 4:25 PM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GandD] John Allen Memorial Breakfast

 

Maybe it is “Chef’s Meat Pies”, and not “Chet”.  I’ll bet it was cut of a magazine ad or something.

 

Charles E. “Chuck” Kinzer

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Randy Lee Decker
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 2:13 PM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GandD] John Allen Memorial Breakfast

 

Here's a nice shot from John's layout.  Shows some of his street covering work.   I wonder who "Chet" was....   and I never noticed before but you can see right through the CV buildings front door through to the door out back and see the purina building behind.   http://www.gdlines.org/GDLines/GD_Galleries/The_Slides/Set_02/slides/s2_016_cvmw_jul68-orig.html

Re: John Allen Memorial Breakfast

Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...>
 

Well that's John... Meat Pies is pretty funny...  so it seems he would have done that purposely as and I do think that is a small t and not an f...    But no matter...   like Sgt. Ennis  we may never be sure who this represented.    


On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 5:43 PM Bob Friddle <bob.friddle@...> wrote:

Looks like Chet to me, probably an insider swipe at Mr. Towers

 

From: GandD@groups.io [mailto:GandD@groups.io] On Behalf Of Charles Kinzer via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 4:25 PM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GandD] John Allen Memorial Breakfast

 

Maybe it is “Chef’s Meat Pies”, and not “Chet”.  I’ll bet it was cut of a magazine ad or something.

 

Charles E. “Chuck” Kinzer

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Randy Lee Decker
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 2:13 PM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GandD] John Allen Memorial Breakfast

 

Here's a nice shot from John's layout.  Shows some of his street covering work.   I wonder who "Chet" was....   and I never noticed before but you can see right through the CV buildings front door through to the door out back and see the purina building behind.   http://www.gdlines.org/GDLines/GD_Galleries/The_Slides/Set_02/slides/s2_016_cvmw_jul68-orig.html

Re: John Allen Memorial Breakfast

Bob Friddle
 

I don’t see anything popping up in vintage ads for Chet or Chef meat pies

 

From: GandD@groups.io [mailto:GandD@groups.io] On Behalf Of Charles Kinzer via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 4:25 PM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GandD] John Allen Memorial Breakfast

 

Maybe it is “Chef’s Meat Pies”, and not “Chet”.  I’ll bet it was cut of a magazine ad or something.

 

Charles E. “Chuck” Kinzer

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Randy Lee Decker
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 2:13 PM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GandD] John Allen Memorial Breakfast

 

Here's a nice shot from John's layout.  Shows some of his street covering work.   I wonder who "Chet" was....   and I never noticed before but you can see right through the CV buildings front door through to the door out back and see the purina building behind.   http://www.gdlines.org/GDLines/GD_Galleries/The_Slides/Set_02/slides/s2_016_cvmw_jul68-orig.html

Re: John Allen Memorial Breakfast

Bob Friddle
 

Looks like Chet to me, probably an insider swipe at Mr. Towers

 

From: GandD@groups.io [mailto:GandD@groups.io] On Behalf Of Charles Kinzer via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 4:25 PM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GandD] John Allen Memorial Breakfast

 

Maybe it is “Chef’s Meat Pies”, and not “Chet”.  I’ll bet it was cut of a magazine ad or something.

 

Charles E. “Chuck” Kinzer

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Randy Lee Decker
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 2:13 PM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GandD] John Allen Memorial Breakfast

 

Here's a nice shot from John's layout.  Shows some of his street covering work.   I wonder who "Chet" was....   and I never noticed before but you can see right through the CV buildings front door through to the door out back and see the purina building behind.   http://www.gdlines.org/GDLines/GD_Galleries/The_Slides/Set_02/slides/s2_016_cvmw_jul68-orig.html

Re: John Allen Memorial Breakfast

Charles Kinzer
 

Maybe it is “Chef’s Meat Pies”, and not “Chet”.  I’ll bet it was cut of a magazine ad or something.

 

Charles E. “Chuck” Kinzer

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Randy Lee Decker
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 2:13 PM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GandD] John Allen Memorial Breakfast

 

Here's a nice shot from John's layout.  Shows some of his street covering work.   I wonder who "Chet" was....   and I never noticed before but you can see right through the CV buildings front door through to the door out back and see the purina building behind.   http://www.gdlines.org/GDLines/GD_Galleries/The_Slides/Set_02/slides/s2_016_cvmw_jul68-orig.html

_._,_._,_

 

Re: John Allen Memorial Breakfast

Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...>
 

Here's a nice shot from John's layout.  Shows some of his street covering work.   I wonder who "Chet" was....   and I never noticed before but you can see right through the CV buildings front door through to the door out back and see the purina building behind.   http://www.gdlines.org/GDLines/GD_Galleries/The_Slides/Set_02/slides/s2_016_cvmw_jul68-orig.html

Re: John Allen Memorial Breakfast

Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...>
 

Nope.  Looks pretty good nonetheless. 


On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 3:52 PM Rick Jones <r.t.jones@...> wrote:
On 7/10/2019 12:03 PM, Randy Lee Decker wrote:
> Now that's funny Chuck....!
>  ?? With the hint of a slanted similarity....;?? ??I ran an engine on the
> Cooper Electric for John last week and filmed it.?? A fitting tribute I
> thought.?? ??Today the electric line and West Divide contracted with me to
> put in cobblestone streets.?? ??Well they are in now and they look
> incredible but some cracks need to be filled and ohhh my god those rails
> are hard to clean and get just right after you cover them permanently
> like that.?? but the vacuum is out and I am scrapping and picking the
> inside edge of the rails with a small Xacto blade and using a super fine
> brass bristle brush to get the trains working as well as they did before.

    Did you do anything to simulate girder rail in the street, and if so
how?

--

                   Rick Jones

To impress a woman a man has to wine, dine, court and romance
her. To impress a man all a woman has to do is show up naked at
his doorstep with a case of beer.



Re: John Allen Memorial Breakfast

Rick Jones
 

On 7/10/2019 12:03 PM, Randy Lee Decker wrote:
Now that's funny Chuck....!
?? With the hint of a slanted similarity....;?? ??I ran an engine on the Cooper Electric for John last week and filmed it.?? A fitting tribute I thought.?? ??Today the electric line and West Divide contracted with me to put in cobblestone streets.?? ??Well they are in now and they look incredible but some cracks need to be filled and ohhh my god those rails are hard to clean and get just right after you cover them permanently like that.?? but the vacuum is out and I am scrapping and picking the inside edge of the rails with a small Xacto blade and using a super fine brass bristle brush to get the trains working as well as they did before.
Did you do anything to simulate girder rail in the street, and if so how?

--

Rick Jones

To impress a woman a man has to wine, dine, court and romance
her. To impress a man all a woman has to do is show up naked at
his doorstep with a case of beer.

Re: Angels Camp

Rick Jones
 

On 7/10/2019 9:08 AM, Randy Lee Decker wrote:
Any of you guys who have things of John Allen heritage. ??Please make sure anything of value to the John Allen story finds a home before you go or be sure your kids know where you want things to go once you pass.
I don't have anything from John Allen but I do have 3 locomotives that came from Dean Freytag's South Ridge layout. As many of you know Dean was the master of steel mill modeling and wrote "The Bible" of doing that. I have been concerned with ensuring that these historical locomotives wind up somewhere proper when I'm gone. Gifting them to the NMRA museum seems like the best idea to me as I can't think of anywhere else that might treat them with the respect they deserve.
I'm still hoping to get a couple of wheelsets from NWSL for the two Atlas/Roco SD24s, if they'll still produce them before they shut their doors. The third engine is a Hallmark brass Trainmaster. I want to add decoders to all of them, which some people might consider sacrilege to modify a historical locomotive, but I bought them with the idea of running them and not just letting them sit in boxes (which are just some old Athearn blue boxes and not even the originals).

--

Rick Jones

Earth is the insane asylum of the universe.