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Re: John Whitby Allen Birthday (1913) - Tue, 07/02/2019 #cal-notice

 

Beautiful salutation to our creative muse Randy.


Re: July 2nd

Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...>
 

Well John on that point we totally agree..  Those brass engines and fantastic explosion of products sucked me right into the hobby.  I still remember the beautiful brass streamlined hudson and the ambroid triple decker sleeper car kit in the advertisements in that first magazine with the article about John Allen that captured my imagination still today.     

And Matt,....   Good to hear from you, get working on that railroad you've got a nice start there....   

Randy


Re: July 2nd

Matt Hosford
 

Happy Birthday John,

I have been away from my pike all year.....Today I got to do some renovations of the work shop......after of course pancakes with Strawberry Jam.......Hope to make some progress soon worthy of some update photos......

Take care and may JA live on in all of our lives and the lives of future model railroaders......

--
Matt Hosford
Wurn & Whythyrd Lines


Re: NWSL last day to order direct

Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...>
 

   Yep..  totally agreed Jeff. Warner.... the brilliance of making your own details and buildings and everything to do with this hobby... is all a huge part of who John was and still would be today.   It's not just cost savings, it is enjoying the hobby to its fullest, by using your brain and skills to problem solve and create beautiful things. 
   
Let me ask....?  What is better as an example of this hobby....  ??  Buying a great brass bridge.... ?  Or Building a Kit built bridge yourself...?  ..  or taking a 2x4 off an old pile of scrap.... and run it through a saw and turn it into tiny scale lumber and used this lumber to make every bent and truss and girder and bridge detail like nuts & bolts and rivet heads all applied and some good airbrush painting and weathering.  To turn junk into art... functional, realistic awe inspiring art.. !   

That hand made bridge can be as well done as any brass model. Some modelers are so damned good, they blow my mind and I have earned a living in this business. It is the challenge to get better, it is the challenge to see if you can do things as well as the best there are did theirs. it is the fun of learning and the confidence it builds to accomplish one skill after another...   That is a human trait at least it used to be....  ?   Buying ready made products or endorsing them on every page of a magazine has no comparison to the the pursuit of the skills and talents and the pride and the conversation piece this bridge will now become to yourself or anyone seeing it.   It is inspirational....!  it is what this hobby is.  Magazines used to teach the talents..  It is these kinds of articles that helped me land the Job I was born to do.. and enjoyed most of my adult life.   It is the type of people who are drawn to this hobby that have this dogged determination to do things themselves and problem solve and make unique displays rather than the plastic toy look you can buy out of a box. 


Randy     

Randy    
   


Re: NWSL last day to order direct

Warner Swarner
 

Jeff,
It’s sad about MR.  We aren’t here to bash, but MR is certainly no longer representative of the creative efforts which we all hope to help survive.  74 pages of self serving sales pitch.  Not much hope that will improve.  
Here is an accurate quote from current issue page 11 under O scale accessories:  “Operating oil pump. orange and black, black, blue and white, and Red Bird. Factory-assembled and wired.”  That’s what it says! That’s all it says.  “Red Bird”, maybe everybody knows is an oil pump design color.  
Three lines on the next page mentions it will be from Atlas and will cost $89.95. Great editing.  How about plans to scratch build one, but that doesn’t pay advertising.  You can still buy an operating Lionel one for less on EBay.   
Sorry for bashing (not kits), but we do need somewhere to promote more scratch building efforts. That’s what John Allen inspired us to do and admire so much.  We have a saying in our large scale group: “ My hobby shop is Home Depot”. 
Warner


On Jul 2, 2019, at 4:38 PM, Jeffrey L Witt via Groups.Io <jlwitt@...> wrote:

Good luck! I think they're swamped. A month ago I placed a huge order and haven't heard a peep. Tried calling today, the phone rang a while then the message said the mailbox was full. Hope they can fill my order, a have a lot of locos depending on it.

I am no longer going to delay purchases of items I know I will need, there have been too many great companies closing the doors lately.

Meanwhile, the latest issue of MR shows how to install laser-cut pre-printed interiors in buildings and lighting using the Woodland Scenics wiring stuff. Those interiors cost from $20 to $40 !!!! What about printing your own, or making stuff out of scraps of wood and styrene? And maybe soldering some wires to your LEDs? I'm done with them, no more renewals. 

A "home brew" interior, cost almost nothing, and good enough through the tiny windows:

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Re: Port and the bridge:

Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...>
 

I did get a video of the trolley line Warner...  Trying to upload it to my facebook page here.    https://www.facebook.com/Great-Divide-Lines-423511918192732/?modal=admin_todo_tour

 I will see if I can't load it in here as well.   Forgive the little EMD diesel but it is the best four footed vehicle I have with modern motor for slow running.....on difficult to navigate, tight, highly elevated curves and etc.  Like a four wheel trolly.   

Randy 


Re: NWSL last day to order direct

Jeffrey L Witt
 

Good luck! I think they're swamped. A month ago I placed a huge order and haven't heard a peep. Tried calling today, the phone rang a while then the message said the mailbox was full. Hope they can fill my order, a have a lot of locos depending on it.

I am no longer going to delay purchases of items I know I will need, there have been too many great companies closing the doors lately.

Meanwhile, the latest issue of MR shows how to install laser-cut pre-printed interiors in buildings and lighting using the Woodland Scenics wiring stuff. Those interiors cost from $20 to $40 !!!! What about printing your own, or making stuff out of scraps of wood and styrene? And maybe soldering some wires to your LEDs? I'm done with them, no more renewals. 

A "home brew" interior, cost almost nothing, and good enough through the tiny windows:




Re: Port and the bridge:

Warner Swarner
 

Our local large scale train club (Rose City Garden Railway Society) had our regular monthly breakfast today (about 30 meet regularly for breakfast discussion at a local Elmer’s Restaurant).   Just happened to fall on John’s birthday.  To honor John, we raised a “toast” with strawberry jam to Honor the great Wizard.  Greetings to fellow modelers of all scales who appreciate the art and humor of one of the great masters.  
Warner



On Jul 2, 2019, at 9:27 AM, Jim Wells <enginears@...> wrote:

Hey Warner,

John was my hero, like so many I grew up a model railroader and hung on every article in MR and also Boys Life:).  Happy birthday John...

In the late 80’s my wife Christie & I had been married less than a decade when she saw me weeping for the first time.  I had just read the book for the first time, and hadn’t heard about the fire before... she knew about my modeling and my hero, and understood, but was shook by my reaction.  She’s the best:).

I may be drummed out of the group for sharing this next part, but something you said struck home, so here goes.  In the 90’s, semi-retired from doing sound in the theme parks, I turned my experience to scratch building scale sound models for my own layout.  I floundered around, making many mistakes until I stumbled into something that actually worked  (in true model railroader tradition:).  Without boring you with technobabble I can say it was pure illusion, cheating by any standard, it was magic:).  I repeated it a bunch of times to make sure I wasn’t hallucinating:), or wishful listening.  I told Christie, I have to share this with my Hobby!

This is the weird part.  I said I wanted to do the same thing in the scale aural image, that John did in the scale visual image... to push so much new dirt in the medium that people would still be trying to figure it out long after I’m gone.  I knew even if I was wildly successful that I’d never be able to contribute like John... but that was my goal.

The thing you said about wondering what John might be doing with today’s technology hit home.  I’m blessed to be working with audio editing that no one dreamed of back then, and with fellow model railroaders who have that expertise in the technology.  And am making sound, sound quietly huge, not loud, just big:).  I’ve shared it with anybody who’ll listen, and done everything I can think of to make it accessible to the average model railroader.  I know I’m no JWA, I know that.  But I know I’m inspired by the best:)!

OK, I’ll go away now and have some pancakes.  So tickled this group exists, and grateful to have stumbled into it,
jim:)
--
Have fun!
www.fantasonics.com


Re: July 2nd

John Hagen
 
Edited

In the sincerest honoring of John Allen, a true leader of the hobby when there were so many that could have been.

That somehow sounds awkward, but I think all will get the message I was trying to put forth.

On another matter, the photo of the Red Ball Mack Railbus reminds me of what was available back in the high-volume brass era. Maybe they needed help in the running area and maybe the detail wasn’t as complete as a $2000.00 W&R 0-6-0 of today, but the variety and affordable costs (Yes, even allowing for inflation) of the times certainly helped the growth of the hobby back then.

John Hagen

 

From: GandD@groups.io On Behalf Of Russell Courtenay via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 9:42 PM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GandD] July 2nd

 

Is this what you have Randy? I really like the Mack AC railbus and engine, would love to find or build one in O scale. 


On Jul 1, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...> wrote:

I got the electric line almost done.... and I threw a weight in an old Howell Day railbus so it will "make the grade" ......  I figure strawberry jam and pancakes and a train officially on the Great Divide.          Glad someone is still doing this stuff..   

Randy 


--
John Hagen


Re: John Whitby Allen Birthday (1913) - Tue, 07/02/2019 #cal-notice

Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...>
 

Hats off John.....!   
     You lit a creative fire under a kid who figured you for a Wizard since the very first.  That kid ended up learning and honing the skills, you inspired him to obtain, to the point he earned a good living from a satisfying job, often as a model maker for many years.   Today that kid has gotten of the hamster wheel of life and finds he still has the very same desire in him yet, to run a train on the G&D. 
   So now I will pay back some of the fun I have enjoyed in this life, so far, by having more fun and trying to recapture the object of my childhood dreams.  The dreams I found in your masterful, magical railroad line in Monterey. 

   Anyway that's my little story.  But far more fascinating is the fact that kids are still finding old articles, or the book your friend Linn wrote, or online publications of your work and you are still inspiring these kids and adults to take a closer look at the hobby and get involved all because of the amazing model work you did all those years ago.     Now that is a statement sir.     That is one hell of a legacy.       Happy Birthday John....! 

Randy


Re: Port and the bridge:

Jim Wells <enginears@...>
 

Hey Warner,

John was my hero, like so many I grew up a model railroader and hung on every article in MR and also Boys Life:).  Happy birthday John...

In the late 80’s my wife Christie & I had been married less than a decade when she saw me weeping for the first time.  I had just read the book for the first time, and hadn’t heard about the fire before... she knew about my modeling and my hero, and understood, but was shook by my reaction.  She’s the best:).

I may be drummed out of the group for sharing this next part, but something you said struck home, so here goes.  In the 90’s, semi-retired from doing sound in the theme parks, I turned my experience to scratch building scale sound models for my own layout.  I floundered around, making many mistakes until I stumbled into something that actually worked  (in true model railroader tradition:).  Without boring you with technobabble I can say it was pure illusion, cheating by any standard, it was magic:).  I repeated it a bunch of times to make sure I wasn’t hallucinating:), or wishful listening.  I told Christie, I have to share this with my Hobby!

This is the weird part.  I said I wanted to do the same thing in the scale aural image, that John did in the scale visual image... to push so much new dirt in the medium that people would still be trying to figure it out long after I’m gone.  I knew even if I was wildly successful that I’d never be able to contribute like John... but that was my goal.

The thing you said about wondering what John might be doing with today’s technology hit home.  I’m blessed to be working with audio editing that no one dreamed of back then, and with fellow model railroaders who have that expertise in the technology.  And am making sound, sound quietly huge, not loud, just big:).  I’ve shared it with anybody who’ll listen, and done everything I can think of to make it accessible to the average model railroader.  I know I’m no JWA, I know that.  But I know I’m inspired by the best:)!

OK, I’ll go away now and have some pancakes.  So tickled this group exists, and grateful to have stumbled into it,
jim:)
--
Have fun!
www.fantasonics.com


Re: July 2nd

Russell Courtenay
 

The calendar is a nice feature, I added the March 12th Golden Spike date to the calendar, 70 years next spring!


On Jul 2, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Tom Hokel (Pine Ridge RR) <PR-Line@...> wrote:

Very nice, Randy. Hope you enjoyed your breakfast.

BTW, I added that calendar notice of John's birthday shortly after our IO Group site was setup. Nice to see the reminder automatically sent out.

--
Tom
<PR> PINE RIDGE RR


Re: July 2nd

Tom Hokel (Pine Ridge RR)
 

Very nice, Randy. Hope you enjoyed your breakfast.

BTW, I added that calendar notice of John's birthday shortly after our IO Group site was setup. Nice to see the reminder automatically sent out.

--
Tom
<PR> PINE RIDGE RR


Re: July 2nd

Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...>
 

Ha....  lol I got fat....  the lift hatch in Port and the cutout by West Divide are a bit tougher than they used to be.  No Wonder John had Jim Findley in the shot on page 95...  I can just fit there and not hit the bridges but I have to be careful.   Again this area is tight for me to begin with JOhn had about a foot more space..   If I put the front track in that runs in front of the team transfer station.. and I cut into the wall to put the covered track (like I am now planning... it will force me to lose some weight. 

New sign for the railroad....; 
   

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On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 10:43 AM Bob Friddle <bob.friddle@...> wrote:

Yes, I do have a kit for the vb shay, it uses a powered truck and is a little crude, but hopefully a good starting point. Have some antlers too. Been watching for an affordable galloping goose but I really want that railbus! – maybe I can kit-bash it. And then there’s the CEO’s rail car…

You’ve got an eagle eye for detail, Randy, I will look again for those sidings. The trolley is going to have to wait for me because I want to get into the mountains first. I’ll have to take a selfie of me standing in my N scale port (no lift yet). Good thing I am still slim, but he knee strength it takes just to stand up straight in it didn’t occur to me when I planned it!

Bob

 

From: GandD@groups.io [mailto:GandD@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Lee Decker via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 9:30 AM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GandD] July 2nd

 

Wow Bob a vertical boiler shay in N scale...  I suppose it is possible now... but my god the mechanical parts would be so tiny it would be a museum masterpiece as in Hon3 mine is really tiny.    

 I am glad the photo's help in anyway at all.  That was my original intention in this build as even though my room and design are slightly askew and a few areas are a bit cramped the overall troubles I get into are exactly the same things John dealt with.  The spot I am working now for a while, suffers from this phenomenon I am dealing with in my plans.   Right here, where the streets carry the electric lines into West Divide and the cutoff switch and tunnel entrance are a real choke point for me.   The dimensions of my room are about the same but I am missing the odd shape John had with a "large" alcove area behind scalp Mountain.    I had to pop out an addition to the addition I already put on the room and cut into part of an existing wall in the apartment in the other half of the garage to try and get the 27.5' John had to work with..  I am short by a few feet along that back wall.   So everything has been distorted slightly and I have to seal inches everywhere and anywhere I can to make this work. It is not like I dropped trace paper on his plans and went to work.   So this makes it really interesting and where I have extra room I intend to make good use of it and Make Joh Proud.. where I am tight I am trying to create the illusion of what he did the best I can.
     The Central Valley building would have been made 1/2" narrower than it is but I wanted to use those three windows that open up in front so they determined the smallest size I could possibly get away with.   I even recast and recarved the arched stone abutment so it could be as narrow as possible to save 5/8th inch.
  For fun  here's more trouble I am dealing with..... that might be of trivial interest...   The siding that spits on a switch up on the truss over the Purina building that runs over the coal tipple and above and behind the Orpheum Theater has two tracks back there.   It is not drawn that way and I am not sure if there is another switch I can't see or of the cars were just staged back in there.     There is the line in front of the West Divide Team and Transfer Station you can clearly see in the famous photo of Jim Findley on page 95, and then a track that has cars sitting in and under the transfer building behind this track.   Now I wonder if John had a switch down at the base of Witt Towers ?  OR...... this track might just explain why there is a track that Tom Hokel brought to my attention a while back in Johns plans on page 85. Look behind the Port Station, the siding is clearly attached to the high bridge track....  it has me thinking about some clever cutting as I have just enough space to make a track work by cutting into the wall there.

Fun stuff...  For what it is worth, these things should make everyone look again at Johns layout and have fun to try and figure out what he did and how he did it.   

Randy

 


Re: July 2nd

Bob Friddle
 

Yes, I do have a kit for the vb shay, it uses a powered truck and is a little crude, but hopefully a good starting point. Have some antlers too. Been watching for an affordable galloping goose but I really want that railbus! – maybe I can kit-bash it. And then there’s the CEO’s rail car…

You’ve got an eagle eye for detail, Randy, I will look again for those sidings. The trolley is going to have to wait for me because I want to get into the mountains first. I’ll have to take a selfie of me standing in my N scale port (no lift yet). Good thing I am still slim, but he knee strength it takes just to stand up straight in it didn’t occur to me when I planned it!

Bob

 

From: GandD@groups.io [mailto:GandD@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Lee Decker via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 9:30 AM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GandD] July 2nd

 

Wow Bob a vertical boiler shay in N scale...  I suppose it is possible now... but my god the mechanical parts would be so tiny it would be a museum masterpiece as in Hon3 mine is really tiny.    

 I am glad the photo's help in anyway at all.  That was my original intention in this build as even though my room and design are slightly askew and a few areas are a bit cramped the overall troubles I get into are exactly the same things John dealt with.  The spot I am working now for a while, suffers from this phenomenon I am dealing with in my plans.   Right here, where the streets carry the electric lines into West Divide and the cutoff switch and tunnel entrance are a real choke point for me.   The dimensions of my room are about the same but I am missing the odd shape John had with a "large" alcove area behind scalp Mountain.    I had to pop out an addition to the addition I already put on the room and cut into part of an existing wall in the apartment in the other half of the garage to try and get the 27.5' John had to work with..  I am short by a few feet along that back wall.   So everything has been distorted slightly and I have to seal inches everywhere and anywhere I can to make this work. It is not like I dropped trace paper on his plans and went to work.   So this makes it really interesting and where I have extra room I intend to make good use of it and Make Joh Proud.. where I am tight I am trying to create the illusion of what he did the best I can.
     The Central Valley building would have been made 1/2" narrower than it is but I wanted to use those three windows that open up in front so they determined the smallest size I could possibly get away with.   I even recast and recarved the arched stone abutment so it could be as narrow as possible to save 5/8th inch.
  For fun  here's more trouble I am dealing with..... that might be of trivial interest...   The siding that spits on a switch up on the truss over the Purina building that runs over the coal tipple and above and behind the Orpheum Theater has two tracks back there.   It is not drawn that way and I am not sure if there is another switch I can't see or of the cars were just staged back in there.     There is the line in front of the West Divide Team and Transfer Station you can clearly see in the famous photo of Jim Findley on page 95, and then a track that has cars sitting in and under the transfer building behind this track.   Now I wonder if John had a switch down at the base of Witt Towers ?  OR...... this track might just explain why there is a track that Tom Hokel brought to my attention a while back in Johns plans on page 85. Look behind the Port Station, the siding is clearly attached to the high bridge track....  it has me thinking about some clever cutting as I have just enough space to make a track work by cutting into the wall there.

Fun stuff...  For what it is worth, these things should make everyone look again at Johns layout and have fun to try and figure out what he did and how he did it.   

Randy

 


Re: July 2nd

Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...>
 

Wow Bob a vertical boiler shay in N scale...  I suppose it is possible now... but my god the mechanical parts would be so tiny it would be a museum masterpiece as in Hon3 mine is really tiny.    

 I am glad the photo's help in anyway at all.  That was my original intention in this build as even though my room and design are slightly askew and a few areas are a bit cramped the overall troubles I get into are exactly the same things John dealt with.  The spot I am working now for a while, suffers from this phenomenon I am dealing with in my plans.   Right here, where the streets carry the electric lines into West Divide and the cutoff switch and tunnel entrance are a real choke point for me.   The dimensions of my room are about the same but I am missing the odd shape John had with a "large" alcove area behind scalp Mountain.    I had to pop out an addition to the addition I already put on the room and cut into part of an existing wall in the apartment in the other half of the garage to try and get the 27.5' John had to work with..  I am short by a few feet along that back wall.   So everything has been distorted slightly and I have to seal inches everywhere and anywhere I can to make this work. It is not like I dropped trace paper on his plans and went to work.   So this makes it really interesting and where I have extra room I intend to make good use of it and Make Joh Proud.. where I am tight I am trying to create the illusion of what he did the best I can.
     The Central Valley building would have been made 1/2" narrower than it is but I wanted to use those three windows that open up in front so they determined the smallest size I could possibly get away with.   I even recast and recarved the arched stone abutment so it could be as narrow as possible to save 5/8th inch.
  For fun  here's more trouble I am dealing with..... that might be of trivial interest...   The siding that spits on a switch up on the truss over the Purina building that runs over the coal tipple and above and behind the Orpheum Theater has two tracks back there.   It is not drawn that way and I am not sure if there is another switch I can't see or of the cars were just staged back in there.     There is the line in front of the West Divide Team and Transfer Station you can clearly see in the famous photo of Jim Findley on page 95, and then a track that has cars sitting in and under the transfer building behind this track.   Now I wonder if John had a switch down at the base of Witt Towers ?  OR...... this track might just explain why there is a track that Tom Hokel brought to my attention a while back in Johns plans on page 85. Look behind the Port Station, the siding is clearly attached to the high bridge track....  it has me thinking about some clever cutting as I have just enough space to make a track work by cutting into the wall there.

Fun stuff...  For what it is worth, these things should make everyone look again at Johns layout and have fun to try and figure out what he did and how he did it.   

Randy

 


Re: John Whitby Allen Birthday (1913) - Tue, 07/02/2019 #cal-notice

 

Happy Birthday John .... we all miss you and your talents.Thank you for enlightening the path and showing us all the way.


Re: July 2nd

Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...>
 

Well my solution to the public's need for railroad transportation on an unfinished electric line during the late 1940's might just be the same as the real thing.  ?

      I built the little truck from a gear drive out of some old N scale engine long ago...  It is not running well.. the others are the only HO scale buses I can find in my things.

I think cobblestone will look great especially on a sloping street where you can see the details better and up top you are very near the model so with the proper coloring it should work really well.    That is next.  Wow it is hard to work with models in front of you on anything.  it seems like they are a magnet for the handle of a tool and my elbow is a dangerous thing when it is backing up.   I can't imagine having this area finished and having to stick my arms out and work on something.   

John says....;    Breakfast is done boys , time to get back to railroad work....!    

Randy      


Re: July 2nd

Bob Friddle
 
Edited

It just kills me what you guys have available in HO; this little gem, vertical boiler shays, climaxes. Hopefully some day I’ll have the time and talent to fab them in N scale and make John’s spirit proud. Happy birthday and cheers to you, Mr. Allen, thanks for setting such an impossibly high bar. We know you’re smiling down on us all!

Looking forward to pics and video, Randy, I am learning SO much from your work and progress pics!

My favorite black raspberry pancakes this Saturday for anyone who wants to come over (my berries aren’t quite ripe yet but I just picked up some outstanding jam)!

Bob

Gabriele Lines – Route of the Angels

Minneapolis

 

From: GandD@groups.io [mailto:GandD@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Lee Decker via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 7:17 AM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GandD] July 2nd

 

Hey Russell, that's the little critter.  I got it apart and oiled the poor thing this morning.. Runs like a top but it has been in a box now for nearly 40 years and who knows how long it sat before I bought it.   The front truck on mine has smaller solid wheels.    Working that last length of track to close the loop.   21'   Going to be all cobblestone streets. 

 

 Sometime after John buys the Great Divide the City will do an urban renewal project and run concrete over the top of them.    

 

                                     Happy Birthday John

 

Randy  

 

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 10:42 PM Russell Courtenay via Groups.Io <walruswebtech=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Is this what you have Randy? I really like the Mack AC railbus and engine, would love to find or build one in O scale. 

Russell Courtenay

 


On Jul 1, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Randy Lee Decker <randyleedecker@...> wrote:

I got the electric line almost done.... and I threw a weight in an old Howell Day railbus so it will "make the grade" ......  I figure strawberry jam and pancakes and a train officially on the Great Divide.          Glad someone is still doing this stuff...   

Randy 


Re: Greg's installation reference photos - steamers

Greg Komar
 

Randy,

 

Thanks for the kind words. You’re right about Dave Gorelle, I need to get back in touch with him. I’ve seen Dave’s collection, and I’ve got a lot to learn!

 

Greg Komar

gkomar@...

BASIC FLYING RULES:
"Try to stay in the middle of the air. Do not go near the edges of it. The edges of the air can be recognized by the appearance of ground, buildings, sea and trees. It is much more difficult to fly there."


From: GandD@groups.io [mailto:GandD@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Lee Decker
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 8:47 PM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GandD] Greg's installation reference photos - steamers

 

You and Dave Gorelle should talk....  You two hands down are THE best damned paint mechanics I have ever seen.   

 

  When I get to the engines, I can do a good job, many of us can. I use an airbrush and I still use floquil, so a fairly commonplace but good, predictable result.

  

 I hope I can talk one or both of you into doing an engine for me. I am not sure what your doing but your paint is laying down like it was painted on by little scale men with little scale sprayers.  

 

Randy   

 

 

 

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:52 PM Greg Komar <gkomar@...> wrote:

Randy,

 

Randy,

 

I spent some “quiet” time today and uploaded some installation/construction photos from my latest batch of 13 ( or is it 14??) steamers for the West Virginia Northern.

They’re essentially “in progress” snaps I took so I could remember what I’d done before, to be consistent throughout the project. I don’t have the time now to do any

comments, captions or descriptions that would certainly help, but at least you’ll have photos to reference. Hope they’re of some help.

 

I didn’t want to clutter up the groups photo section with an extra 350 or so snapshots, so, instead they’re here:

 

https://gregkomar.smugmug.com/West-Virginia-Northern/Locomotive-Installations

 

I’m running off for about a month to take reference photos for my own railroad. After 43 years of thinking about it, it’s long overdue…..

Stay tuned for a possible clinic at ProtoRails in Cocoa Beach…”Drones as a modeling tool”

 

Maybe when I get back, I’ll post some diseasel install photos…

 

Greg Komar

gkomar@...

 “Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return.” 


From: GandD@groups.io [mailto:GandD@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Lee Decker
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 11:52 PM
To: GandD@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GandD] How do you deal with your tenders? Ten wheelers

 

Guts & Gorre Brotha...  Guts & Gorre.....   
   Please do post a few pics.   One day I will have  some engines painted and lettered as needed.  Until then, I love seeing extremely well done paint jobs and any ideas for sound will go into the bin for later.   

Randy