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Re: New rules for transferring to Io

David
 

Hi All,

Count me in for $10 for the transfer.  Thank you Darryl for becoming the new owner.  And a special thank you to Pat for creating this wonderful Yahoo group.  I'll try to send out the Paypal payment by this weekend.

David (Dry Gulch & Western)


On Wednesday, March 6, 2019 9:16 PM, "pr-line@... [GandD]" wrote:


 
Hi Darryl,

Glad you are the new owner.

And, thank you Pat for your years of support and setting up the Yahoo group way back when ... I still had some black hair.

Count me in for $10.

Tom Hokel
Pine Ridge RR



Re: New rules for transferring to Io

Tom Hokel (Pine Ridge RR)
 

Hi Darryl,

Glad you are the new owner.

And, thank you Pat for your years of support and setting up the Yahoo group way back when ... I still had some black hair.

Count me in for $10.

Tom Hokel
Pine Ridge RR


Re: New Group Owner~!

Pat Turner
 

You are welcome. I am sorry to all that I have been absent for so long here. Many things going on. Pat


New rules for transferring to Io

Darryl Huffman
 

The Io people now require a one time payment of $110 to transfer a Yahoo group to Io.

The free ride is over I guess.

All my other transfers were free.

Are there enough people to contribute $10   (11 needed) to provide the $110 fee.

If you are willing, let me know.

You can Paypal the $10 to me at my email address below.



Darryl Huffman
darrylhuffman@...


Re: New Group Owner~!

Darryl Huffman
 

Thanks Pat.

Darryl Huffman
darrylhuffman@...

You can follow my model building career on my blog at:

http://ghosttownmodels.blogspot.com

and

www.GhostTownModels.com

Remember, without closets, model manufacturers would never be profitable.


On Wednesday, March 6, 2019, 9:14:32 PM MST, CandSn3@... [GandD] wrote:


 

Hello All your missing in Action Group Owner Pat Turner here.
I have just made Darryl Huffman the New Group Owner.
He asked me to do this and I am glad to return the favor as he asked me to take a group from him several years ago.
I am much more active on Facebook and I am doing a lot more modeling these days and selling a good bit on ebay.
As such I do not spend much time on Yahoo as I used to.
Pat



New Group Owner~!

Pat Turner
 

Hello All your missing in Action Group Owner Pat Turner here.
I have just made Darryl Huffman the New Group Owner.
He asked me to do this and I am glad to return the favor as he asked me to take a group from him several years ago.
I am much more active on Facebook and I am doing a lot more modeling these days and selling a good bit on ebay.
As such I do not spend much time on Yahoo as I used to.
Pat



Re: moderator status

Bob Friddle
 

Darryl, a couple of us have contacted Pat Turner on his active Facebook page and asked him to review this issue and respond. A few weeks ago he responded to me on Facebook and said that he would, but he has not. I sent another reminder last week. 

Thanks,


Bob Friddle


On Mar 6, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Darryl Huffman darrylhuffman@... [GandD] <GandD@...> wrote:

 

Does anyone have contact information for the owner of this group?


Joe Melhorn has set up the GandD group on Io.

So we can go there and join.

But without the co-opeartion of the owner of the Yahho group we cannot transfer all the files, photos and messages.

Darry Huffman



Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Wednesday, March 6, 2019, 6:19 PM, darrylhuffman@... [GandD] <GandD@...> wrote:

 

Friends,


While it may appear that I am one of the moderators of this group, unfortunately, that is not the case.


I will set up a GandD Io group to start with.


And we can go from there.


Darryl Huffman

darrylhuffman@...


Re: Yahoo Closing Groups

Darryl Huffman
 

I have emailed Pat Turner with the hopes of being made an owner of the Yahoo group.

Time will tell.

Darryl Huffman
darrylhuffman@...

You can follow my model building career on my blog at:

http://ghosttownmodels.blogspot.com

and

www.GhostTownModels.com

Remember, without closets, model manufacturers would never be profitable.


On Wednesday, March 6, 2019, 7:41:18 PM MST, Dale Smith dalefsmith@... [GandD] wrote:


 

I think the rules email is also on auto-pilot.  I checked on the Yahoo groups site for GandD and he is not listed, only Pat Turner.   That is what the Yahoo server says so I believe that is more accurate than the email.

Dale

On 3/6/2019 3:02 PM, 'Friddle, Bob' bob.friddle@... [GandD] wrote:
 

Darryl’s name as moderator is still in the monthly rules…

 

From: GandD@... [mailto:GandD@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2019 12:33 PM
To: GandD@...
Subject: Re: [GandD] Re: Yahoo Closing Groups

 

 

Darryl Huffman does not appear to be a moderator any longer.  Either Pat removed him or Darryl removed himself from that role.  He is still a member though.  You can see a list of members and moderators by clicking on the text at the top of the group page where it says "1433 members."  For Moderators, click on that tab.  Email addresses are not disclosed at least to non moderators.   I will make another update of the group on PGOffline for backup, in case the group disappears. 

As a side note, there are a huge number of members (218) of this group who don't get the messages anymore because their emails are bouncing.   As to Pat, I think he put this group on auto-pilot and is occupied with other things right now.   The problems with photo loading have plagued other groups periodically and that is a Yahoo issue.  He and Daryl are not among the bouncing emails, but they may have opted for no emails or notifications only (which only moderators can send) and may not be seeing these messages.

I don't make many posts, but like many of the other 1433 members (minus the 218), I enjoy reading other's insights into John's work of art. 

Dale Smith

On 3/6/2019 8:09 AM, 'Friddle, Bob' bob.friddle@... [GandD] wrote:

 

Have we heard from moderator Daryl Huffman?

Bob

 

From: GandD@... [mailto:GandD@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 6:12 AM
To: GandD@...
Subject: [GandD] Re: Yahoo Closing Groups

 

 

One of the Yahoo Groups that I belong to moved to Groups.IO.  You had to resubmit in order to join.   Anyone in this group can create the new group on IO though it would be best if several people were moderators.   Moving items from here would require copying and posting at the new group.

Regards,

Bill

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Yahoo Closing Groups

Dale Smith
 

I think the rules email is also on auto-pilot.  I checked on the Yahoo groups site for GandD and he is not listed, only Pat Turner.   That is what the Yahoo server says so I believe that is more accurate than the email.

Dale

On 3/6/2019 3:02 PM, 'Friddle, Bob' bob.friddle@... [GandD] wrote:
 

Darryl’s name as moderator is still in the monthly rules…

 

From: GandD@... [mailto:GandD@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2019 12:33 PM
To: GandD@...
Subject: Re: [GandD] Re: Yahoo Closing Groups

 

 

Darryl Huffman does not appear to be a moderator any longer.  Either Pat removed him or Darryl removed himself from that role.  He is still a member though.  You can see a list of members and moderators by clicking on the text at the top of the group page where it says "1433 members."  For Moderators, click on that tab.  Email addresses are not disclosed at least to non moderators.   I will make another update of the group on PGOffline for backup, in case the group disappears. 

As a side note, there are a huge number of members (218) of this group who don't get the messages anymore because their emails are bouncing.   As to Pat, I think he put this group on auto-pilot and is occupied with other things right now.   The problems with photo loading have plagued other groups periodically and that is a Yahoo issue.  He and Daryl are not among the bouncing emails, but they may have opted for no emails or notifications only (which only moderators can send) and may not be seeing these messages.

I don't make many posts, but like many of the other 1433 members (minus the 218), I enjoy reading other's insights into John's work of art. 

Dale Smith

On 3/6/2019 8:09 AM, 'Friddle, Bob' bob.friddle@... [GandD] wrote:

 

Have we heard from moderator Daryl Huffman?

Bob

 

From: GandD@... [mailto:GandD@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 6:12 AM
To: GandD@...
Subject: [GandD] Re: Yahoo Closing Groups

 

 

One of the Yahoo Groups that I belong to moved to Groups.IO.  You had to resubmit in order to join.   Anyone in this group can create the new group on IO though it would be best if several people were moderators.   Moving items from here would require copying and posting at the new group.

Regards,

Bill

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Yahoo GandD Group Banner image gone?

Ken Dodge
 

Not sure if it's just a temporary peculiarity with my Firefox browser (latest 64-bit version on Windows 10 Pro) but the page Banner image of the G&D passenger combo car # 60 at the Corsa stop has disappeared. Anyone else seen this behavior? Is Yahoo trying to tell us something?

Ken Dodge



Re: moderator status

Ken Dodge
 

Hi Darryl,

I've seen lots of discussion re the Yahoo GandD Group owner, who is listed as Pat Turner. Apparently nobody has had any luck getting him to respond, so transferring from Yahoo to Group.io (or anywhere else, I would imagine) may be reduced to re-uploading everything from an archive like PG Offline and getting all the members to re-apply for the new group membership (a pain in the ...)  I and others have successfully downloaded the full Yahoo GandD Group contents to a local PC, so that's at least not an impossibility.

Ken Dodge


Re: Yahoo Closing Groups

Darryl Huffman
 

Having transferred several groups to Io I understand the process.

There is no cost involved.

The original Yahoo group does not change.

But, without the group's owner help, the only thing to do is to continue as is.

But I also joined the Io group.

Darryl Huffman
darrylhuffman@...

On Wednesday, March 6, 2019, 6:17 PM, Dale Smith dalefsmith@... [GandD] wrote:

 

I don't think money or the will to do it is the problem.  We can't do it without an owner to invite the transfer agent from groups.io to become a moderator and make the changes.  The question is whether we should start a new group on groups.io.   I did it for vintageHO but that was a "public group."  GandD is a "restricted group" meaning its contents are restricted to members.  This poses some ethical problems for transferring photos and files which were supplied by members under the rules that they would be shared only with other members.  Moving them to another group allows them to be seen by individuals who may not have been members of the Yahoo group.  That isn't a problem with a "public" group.  I doubt few would complain, but that is why groups.io transfer requires the owner to do it.   The transfer protocol brings the old members to the new group and assumes that the same owner moderator will be running the new group, so the same transferred members will be the only ones to see the messages and photos, subject to new members being admitted by the same moderator.   There may also be an ethical issue of transferring or rebuilding a group without the owner's knowledge or permission.

If we do go for a new group, I think the safest thing to do would be for the photo or file contributors to simply repost to the new group.  I would also recommend we wait until Yahoo goes belly up for good.  That would avoid the added problem of continued posts to the old group.  That could happen if they haven't read any message telling them of the new group.  People will still be getting the emails as long as Yahoo is functioning and will probably be replying there.    Because the appearance of the messages from both groups is so similar, most people won't pay any attention which group it is from.   Only the owner or moderator can shut down a group to posting.

Dale Smith

On 3/6/2019 1:47 PM, trainliker ckinzer@... [GandD] wrote:
 

It should be EASY to get some of this group’s member to pony up a few dollars if that is needed.  A very small consortium contributed quite a bit to make the Gorre & Daphetid Reminiscence Project (www.gdlines.org) a reality.  And that was vastly more time than the miniscule effort to move to groups.io.  There are now 11,008 public groups at groups.io.  And I’ll wager the lion’s share are Yahoo group escapees.

 

Charles E. “Chuck” Kinzer

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bruce Wilson wilsonbrucea@... [GandD]
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 1:09 PM
To: GandD@...
Subject: Re: [GandD] Re: Yahoo Closing Groups

 

 

Transferring is easy and painless.  The only change is now groups.io is requesting the group owner become a premium subscriber for a period of one year to help offset the costs of all of the work behind the scenes reacting to yahoo move to keep the transfer functional.

https://groups.io/yahootransfer

Bruce Wilson
Barrie, Ontario, Canada
Life Member    NMRA
Member    Scale 7 Group    Gauge 0 Guild  7mmNGA
On 3/6/2019 11:18, 'John Hagen' sprinthag@... [GandD] wrote:

It’s not  that difficult.

Groups.io has a program that makes it quite easy, well, easier than one would think.

The members are transferred, the files and photos can be done through groups.io without coping and pasting.

I am members of several groups that did this. The only time there was problems was if there were no current owner of the Yahoo group. This must be done by the owner per Yahoo regulations. If not, then a new groups.io group must be formed and all files, photos and membership names only must be copied and pasted. And the members must physically join the new group, which is really easy to do.

I do wish this will be done here as I am very concerned about what will happen to Yahoo Groups.

John Hagen

 


altVirus-free. www.avg.com


Re: moderator status

Ken Dodge
 

Hi Darryl, see Joe Melhorn's message # 16070 on Mar 5. He said he checked Group.io for a GandD group and found none so he created one. He's OK with passing ownership on to someone else who wants to do it.

Ken Dodge


Re: moderator status

Darryl Huffman
 

Does anyone have contact information for the owner of this group?

Joe Melhorn has set up the GandD group on Io.

So we can go there and join.

But without the co-opeartion of the owner of the Yahho group we cannot transfer all the files, photos and messages.

Darry Huffman
darrylhuffman@...

On Wednesday, March 6, 2019, 6:19 PM, darrylhuffman@... [GandD] wrote:

 

Friends,


While it may appear that I am one of the moderators of this group, unfortunately, that is not the case.


I will set up a GandD Io group to start with.


And we can go from there.


Darryl Huffman

darrylhuffman@...


io Group status

Darryl Huffman
 

Someone has already started a GandD io Group.

I just joined but do not know who the owner is.

Darryl Huffman
darrylhuffman@...

You can follow my model building career on my blog at:

http://ghosttownmodels.blogspot.com

and

www.GhostTownModels.com

Remember, without closets, model manufacturers would never be profitable.


moderator status

Darryl Huffman
 

Friends,


While it may appear that I am one of the moderators of this group, unfortunately, that is not the case.


I will set up a GandD Io group to start with.


And we can go from there.


Darryl Huffman

darrylhuffman@...


Re: Yahoo Closing Groups

Dale Smith
 

I don't think money or the will to do it is the problem.  We can't do it without an owner to invite the transfer agent from groups.io to become a moderator and make the changes.  The question is whether we should start a new group on groups.io.   I did it for vintageHO but that was a "public group."  GandD is a "restricted group" meaning its contents are restricted to members.  This poses some ethical problems for transferring photos and files which were supplied by members under the rules that they would be shared only with other members.  Moving them to another group allows them to be seen by individuals who may not have been members of the Yahoo group.  That isn't a problem with a "public" group.  I doubt few would complain, but that is why groups.io transfer requires the owner to do it.   The transfer protocol brings the old members to the new group and assumes that the same owner moderator will be running the new group, so the same transferred members will be the only ones to see the messages and photos, subject to new members being admitted by the same moderator.   There may also be an ethical issue of transferring or rebuilding a group without the owner's knowledge or permission.

If we do go for a new group, I think the safest thing to do would be for the photo or file contributors to simply repost to the new group.  I would also recommend we wait until Yahoo goes belly up for good.  That would avoid the added problem of continued posts to the old group.  That could happen if they haven't read any message telling them of the new group.  People will still be getting the emails as long as Yahoo is functioning and will probably be replying there.    Because the appearance of the messages from both groups is so similar, most people won't pay any attention which group it is from.   Only the owner or moderator can shut down a group to posting.

Dale Smith

On 3/6/2019 1:47 PM, trainliker ckinzer@... [GandD] wrote:
 

It should be EASY to get some of this group’s member to pony up a few dollars if that is needed.  A very small consortium contributed quite a bit to make the Gorre & Daphetid Reminiscence Project (www.gdlines.org) a reality.  And that was vastly more time than the miniscule effort to move to groups.io.  There are now 11,008 public groups at groups.io.  And I’ll wager the lion’s share are Yahoo group escapees.

 

Charles E. “Chuck” Kinzer

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bruce Wilson wilsonbrucea@... [GandD]
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 1:09 PM
To: GandD@...
Subject: Re: [GandD] Re: Yahoo Closing Groups

 

 

Transferring is easy and painless.  The only change is now groups.io is requesting the group owner become a premium subscriber for a period of one year to help offset the costs of all of the work behind the scenes reacting to yahoo move to keep the transfer functional.

https://groups.io/yahootransfer

Bruce Wilson
Barrie, Ontario, Canada
Life Member    NMRA
Member    Scale 7 Group    Gauge 0 Guild  7mmNGA
On 3/6/2019 11:18, 'John Hagen' sprinthag@... [GandD] wrote:

It’s not  that difficult.

Groups.io has a program that makes it quite easy, well, easier than one would think.

The members are transferred, the files and photos can be done through groups.io without coping and pasting.

I am members of several groups that did this. The only time there was problems was if there were no current owner of the Yahoo group. This must be done by the owner per Yahoo regulations. If not, then a new groups.io group must be formed and all files, photos and membership names only must be copied and pasted. And the members must physically join the new group, which is really easy to do.

I do wish this will be done here as I am very concerned about what will happen to Yahoo Groups.

John Hagen

 


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Yahoo Closing Groups

Bob Friddle
 

Darryl’s name as moderator is still in the monthly rules…

 

From: GandD@... [mailto:GandD@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2019 12:33 PM
To: GandD@...
Subject: Re: [GandD] Re: Yahoo Closing Groups

 

 

Darryl Huffman does not appear to be a moderator any longer.  Either Pat removed him or Darryl removed himself from that role.  He is still a member though.  You can see a list of members and moderators by clicking on the text at the top of the group page where it says "1433 members."  For Moderators, click on that tab.  Email addresses are not disclosed at least to non moderators.   I will make another update of the group on PGOffline for backup, in case the group disappears. 

As a side note, there are a huge number of members (218) of this group who don't get the messages anymore because their emails are bouncing.   As to Pat, I think he put this group on auto-pilot and is occupied with other things right now.   The problems with photo loading have plagued other groups periodically and that is a Yahoo issue.  He and Daryl are not among the bouncing emails, but they may have opted for no emails or notifications only (which only moderators can send) and may not be seeing these messages.

I don't make many posts, but like many of the other 1433 members (minus the 218), I enjoy reading other's insights into John's work of art. 

Dale Smith

On 3/6/2019 8:09 AM, 'Friddle, Bob' bob.friddle@... [GandD] wrote:

 

Have we heard from moderator Daryl Huffman?

Bob

 

From: GandD@... [mailto:GandD@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 6:12 AM
To: GandD@...
Subject: [GandD] Re: Yahoo Closing Groups

 

 

One of the Yahoo Groups that I belong to moved to Groups.IO.  You had to resubmit in order to join.   Anyone in this group can create the new group on IO though it would be best if several people were moderators.   Moving items from here would require copying and posting at the new group.

Regards,

Bill

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Yahoo Closing Groups

Charles Kinzer
 

It should be EASY to get some of this group’s member to pony up a few dollars if that is needed.  A very small consortium contributed quite a bit to make the Gorre & Daphetid Reminiscence Project (www.gdlines.org) a reality.  And that was vastly more time than the miniscule effort to move to groups.io.  There are now 11,008 public groups at groups.io.  And I’ll wager the lion’s share are Yahoo group escapees.

 

Charles E. “Chuck” Kinzer

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bruce Wilson wilsonbrucea@... [GandD]
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 1:09 PM
To: GandD@...
Subject: Re: [GandD] Re: Yahoo Closing Groups

 

 

Transferring is easy and painless.  The only change is now groups.io is requesting the group owner become a premium subscriber for a period of one year to help offset the costs of all of the work behind the scenes reacting to yahoo move to keep the transfer functional.

https://groups.io/yahootransfer

Bruce Wilson
Barrie, Ontario, Canada
Life Member    NMRA
Member    Scale 7 Group    Gauge 0 Guild  7mmNGA
On 3/6/2019 11:18, 'John Hagen' sprinthag@... [GandD] wrote:

It’s not  that difficult.

Groups.io has a program that makes it quite easy, well, easier than one would think.

The members are transferred, the files and photos can be done through groups.io without coping and pasting.

I am members of several groups that did this. The only time there was problems was if there were no current owner of the Yahoo group. This must be done by the owner per Yahoo regulations. If not, then a new groups.io group must be formed and all files, photos and membership names only must be copied and pasted. And the members must physically join the new group, which is really easy to do.

I do wish this will be done here as I am very concerned about what will happen to Yahoo Groups.

John Hagen

 


Re: Yahoo Closing Groups

Dale Smith
 

That is true, but you need an owner or at least a moderator with sufficient privileges to do it and this group has neither. The owner may have abandoned the group as he has not responded to numerous inquiries about this.

Dale Smith
--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 3/6/19, Bruce Wilson wilsonbrucea@... [GandD] <GandD@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [GandD] Re: Yahoo Closing Groups
To: GandD@...
Date: Wednesday, March 6, 2019, 10:03 AM

Transferring is easy and painless.  The only
change is now
groups.io is requesting the group owner become a
premium
subscriber for a period of one year to help offset the
costs of
all of the work behind the scenes reacting to yahoo
move to keep
the transfer functional.
https://groups.io/yahootransfer


Bruce Wilson
Barrie, Ontario, Canada
Life Member NMRA
Member Scale 7 Group Gauge 0 Guild 7mmNGA
On 3/6/2019 11:18, 'John Hagen' sprinthag@...
[GandD] wrote:









It’s not  that
difficult.
Groups.io has a
program that makes it quite
easy, well, easier than one would think.
The members are
transferred, the files and
photos can be done through groups.io without
coping and
pasting.
I am members of
several groups that did
this. The only time there was problems was if
there were no
current owner of the Yahoo group. This must be
done by the
owner per Yahoo regulations. If not, then a new
groups.io
group must be formed and all files, photos and
membership
names only must be copied and pasted. And the
members must
physically join the new group, which is really
easy to do.
I do wish this
will be done here as I am
very concerned about what will happen to Yahoo
Groups.
John Hagen


















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