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Just to add some interest to the GPSL launch, it looks like the GFS forecast that everyone uses for prediction software is getting a major upgrade the Wednesday before. The announcement is shown below. I am a little confused on exactly what is happening to the existing files (0.5 and 1.0 degree) that most systems use. Since there is a new directory structure it would be nice if both systems could be up for a while but it doesn't sound like that is in the cards.
The pessimist in me says we should all be prepared for none of the prediction software working Friday or Saturday. The best and most likely case is everyone will get the software converted over with a little down time on Wednesday. I plan on working on mine so it is ready but will be traveling on Wednesday so it might be interesting.
If any of you have contacts at Hahhub or any of the other prediction systems it would be great to hear their plans.
Mark Conner, if you have any insight it would be great to hear that as well.
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From: NOMADS-FTPPRD list <ncep.list.nomads-ftpprd@...> To: _NCEP list.nomads-ftpprd <ncep.list.nomads-ftpprd@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 10:04:23 AM MST Subject: [NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd] Pending Upgrades & Announcements 06/04/19
Summary * GFS will have a major upgrade with the 12z cycle June 12. Starting with the 12z cycle June 12, GFS data will
move to the new directory structure of gfs.YYYYMMDD/CC/ from
gfs.YYYYMMDDCC/. Data will not be backfilled. * Grib filter for the parallel GFSv15 0.25 deg output is now on nomads.ncep.noaa.gov, listed at the bottom of the page. The script name is different to keep separate from current production, and will move back to the production names June 12.
Please see below for changes and upgrades:
Marine Fog Product Replacement Scheduled Implementation Date: June 12, 2019
National Water Model Version 2.0 Upgrade
Scheduled Implementation Date: June 19, 2019
Parallel Data: -- Anne Myckow
Lead Dataflow Analyst NOAA/NCEP/NCO _______________________________________________ NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd mailing list NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd@...https://www.lstsrv.ncep.noaa.gov/mailman/listinfo/ncep.list.nomads-ftpprd
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Mark Conner N9XTN
The GFS model will undergo physics upgrades at that time. The output formats should remain the same, but the directory structure will apparently change as per the notice. Here's what a current URL looks like:
I assume the tail end would change from 0600/ to 06/00/ on the 12th. The 0.5 deg and 1.0 deg files should still be available, as there are many users.
Those pulling the data from the https server (and perhaps other NOAA model data servers) will have to change their pulls in a turnkey fashion during the 12Z cycle.
I don't know if any of the HABHUB crew is on this email list or not. Hopefully someone can get word to a contact there.
73 de Mark N9XTN
Just to add some interest to the GPSL launch, it looks like the GFS forecast that everyone uses for prediction software is getting a major upgrade the Wednesday before. The announcement is shown below. I am a little confused on exactly what is happening to the existing files (0.5 and 1.0 degree) that most systems use. Since there is a new directory structure it would be nice if both systems could be up for a while but it doesn't sound like that is in the cards.
The pessimist in me says we should all be prepared for none of the prediction software working Friday or Saturday. The best and most likely case is everyone will get the software converted over with a little down time on Wednesday. I plan on working on mine so it is ready but will be traveling on Wednesday so it might be interesting.
If any of you have contacts at Hahhub or any of the other prediction systems it would be great to hear their plans.
Mark Conner, if you have any insight it would be great to hear that as well.
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Summary * GFS will have a major upgrade with the 12z cycle June 12. Starting with the 12z cycle June 12, GFS data will
move to the new directory structure of gfs.YYYYMMDD/CC/ from
gfs.YYYYMMDDCC/. Data will not be backfilled. * Grib filter for the parallel GFSv15 0.25 deg output is now on nomads.ncep.noaa.gov, listed at the bottom of the page. The script name is different to keep separate from current production, and will move back to the production names June 12.
Please see below for changes and upgrades:
Marine Fog Product Replacement Scheduled Implementation Date: June 12, 2019
National Water Model Version 2.0 Upgrade
Scheduled Implementation Date: June 19, 2019
Parallel Data: -- Anne Myckow
Lead Dataflow Analyst NOAA/NCEP/NCO _______________________________________________ NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd mailing list NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd@...https://www.lstsrv.ncep.noaa.gov/mailman/listinfo/ncep.list.nomads-ftpprd
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Steve G8KHW / AJ4XE
Thanks Mark - I've just cross posted to the UKHAS group.
Steve G8KHW/AJ4XE
On 06/06/2019 04:38, Mark Conner N9XTN
wrote:
The GFS model
will undergo physics upgrades at that time. The output
formats should remain the same, but the directory structure
will apparently change as per the notice. Here's what a
current URL looks like:
I assume the
tail end would change from 0600/ to 06/00/ on the 12th. The
0.5 deg and 1.0 deg files should still be available, as there
are many users.
Those pulling
the data from the https server (and perhaps other NOAA model
data servers) will have to change their pulls in a turnkey
fashion during the 12Z cycle.
I don't know
if any of the HABHUB crew is on this email list or not.
Hopefully someone can get word to a contact there.
73 de Mark
N9XTN
Just to add some interest to the GPSL launch, it
looks like the GFS forecast that everyone uses for
prediction software is getting a major upgrade the
Wednesday before. The announcement is shown below. I
am a little confused on exactly what is happening to
the existing files (0.5 and 1.0 degree) that most
systems use. Since there is a new directory structure
it would be nice if both systems could be up for a
while but it doesn't sound like that is in the cards.
The pessimist in me says we should all be prepared
for none of the prediction software working Friday or
Saturday. The best and most likely case is everyone
will get the software converted over with a little
down time on Wednesday. I plan on working on mine so
it is ready but will be traveling on Wednesday so it
might be interesting.
If any of you have contacts at Hahhub or any of the
other prediction systems it would be great to hear
their plans.
Mark Conner, if you have any insight it would be
great to hear that as well.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 10:04:23 AM MST
Subject: [NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd] Pending
Upgrades & Announcements 06/04/19
Summary
* GFS will have a major upgrade with the
12z cycle June 12. Starting with the 12z cycle
June 12, GFS data will move to the new
directory structure of gfs.YYYYMMDD/CC/
from gfs.YYYYMMDDCC/. Data will not be
backfilled.
* Grib filter for the parallel GFSv15 0.25
deg output is now on nomads.ncep.noaa.gov,
listed at the bottom of the page. The script
name is different to keep separate from
current production, and will move back to the
production names June 12.
Please see below for changes and upgrades:
Marine Fog
Product Replacement
Scheduled
Implementation Date: June 12, 2019
National Water
Model Version 2.0 Upgrade
Scheduled
Implementation Date: June 19, 2019
Parallel Data:
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Anne Myckow
Lead Dataflow Analyst
NOAA/NCEP/NCO
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You may want to check the overlay feature out before the launch. It did not work for us last Saturday. Attached is screen print of the error.
Just to add some interest to the GPSL launch, it looks like the GFS forecast that everyone uses for prediction software is getting a major upgrade the Wednesday before. The announcement is shown below. I am a little confused on exactly what is happening to the existing files (0.5 and 1.0 degree) that most systems use. Since there is a new directory structure it would be nice if both systems could be up for a while but it doesn't sound like that is in the cards.
The pessimist in me says we should all be prepared for none of the prediction software working Friday or Saturday. The best and most likely case is everyone will get the software converted over with a little down time on Wednesday. I plan on working on mine so it is ready but will be traveling on Wednesday so it might be interesting.
If any of you have contacts at Hahhub or any of the other prediction systems it would be great to hear their plans.
Mark Conner, if you have any insight it would be great to hear that as well.
----- Forwarded Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 10:04:23 AM MST Subject: [NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd] Pending Upgrades & Announcements 06/04/19
Summary * GFS will have a major upgrade with the 12z cycle June 12. Starting with the 12z cycle June 12, GFS data will
move to the new directory structure of gfs.YYYYMMDD/CC/ from
gfs.YYYYMMDDCC/. Data will not be backfilled. * Grib filter for the parallel GFSv15 0.25 deg output is now on nomads.ncep.noaa.gov, listed at the bottom of the page. The script name is different to keep separate from current production, and will move back to the production names June 12.
Please see below for changes and upgrades:
Marine Fog Product Replacement Scheduled Implementation Date: June 12, 2019
National Water Model Version 2.0 Upgrade
Scheduled Implementation Date: June 19, 2019
Parallel Data: -- Anne Myckow
Lead Dataflow Analyst NOAA/NCEP/NCO _______________________________________________ NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd mailing list NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd@...https://www.lstsrv.ncep.noaa.gov/mailman/listinfo/ncep.list.nomads-ftpprd
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Thanks for letting me know. I haven't used that feature in a long time.
It looks like the DB is offline. I will work on it but am heading out tomorrow. Visiting a few relatives on the road to GPSL.
On Thursday, June 6, 2019, 4:31:26 AM MST, Dale Wegner <dalewegner@...> wrote:
You may want to check the overlay feature out before the launch. It did not work for us last Saturday. Attached is screen print of the error. Just to add some interest to the GPSL launch, it looks like the GFS forecast that everyone uses for prediction software is getting a major upgrade the Wednesday before. The announcement is shown below. I am a little confused on exactly what is happening to the existing files (0.5 and 1.0 degree) that most systems use. Since there is a new directory structure it would be nice if both systems could be up for a while but it doesn't sound like that is in the cards.
The pessimist in me says we should all be prepared for none of the prediction software working Friday or Saturday. The best and most likely case is everyone will get the software converted over with a little down time on Wednesday. I plan on working on mine so it is ready but will be traveling on Wednesday so it might be interesting.
If any of you have contacts at Hahhub or any of the other prediction systems it would be great to hear their plans.
Mark Conner, if you have any insight it would be great to hear that as well.
----- Forwarded Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 10:04:23 AM MST Subject: [NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd] Pending Upgrades & Announcements 06/04/19
Summary * GFS will have a major upgrade with the 12z cycle June 12. Starting with the 12z cycle June 12, GFS data will
move to the new directory structure of gfs.YYYYMMDD/CC/ from
gfs.YYYYMMDDCC/. Data will not be backfilled. * Grib filter for the parallel GFSv15 0.25 deg output is now on nomads.ncep.noaa.gov, listed at the bottom of the page. The script name is different to keep separate from current production, and will move back to the production names June 12.
Please see below for changes and upgrades:
Marine Fog Product Replacement Scheduled Implementation Date: June 12, 2019
National Water Model Version 2.0 Upgrade
Scheduled Implementation Date: June 19, 2019
Parallel Data: -- Anne Myckow
Lead Dataflow Analyst NOAA/NCEP/NCO _______________________________________________ NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd mailing list NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd@...https://www.lstsrv.ncep.noaa.gov/mailman/listinfo/ncep.list.nomads-ftpprd
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On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 10:19 AM -0600, "Jerry via Groups.Io" <jerrygable@...> wrote:
Thanks for letting me know. I haven't used that feature in a long time.
It looks like the DB is offline. I will work on it but am heading out tomorrow. Visiting a few relatives on the road to GPSL.
On Thursday, June 6, 2019, 4:31:26 AM MST, Dale Wegner <dalewegner@...> wrote:
You may want to check the overlay feature out before the launch. It did not work for us last Saturday. Attached is screen print of the error. Just to add some interest to the GPSL launch, it looks like the GFS forecast that everyone uses for prediction software is getting a major upgrade the Wednesday before. The announcement is shown below. I am a little confused on exactly what is happening to the existing files (0.5 and 1.0 degree) that most systems use. Since there is a new directory structure it would be nice if both systems could be up for a while but it doesn't sound like that is in the cards.
The pessimist in me says we should all be prepared for none of the prediction software working Friday or Saturday. The best and most likely case is everyone will get the software converted over with a little down time on Wednesday. I plan on working on mine so it is ready but will be traveling on Wednesday so it might be interesting.
If any of you have contacts at Hahhub or any of the other prediction systems it would be great to hear their plans.
Mark Conner, if you have any insight it would be great to hear that as well.
----- Forwarded Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 10:04:23 AM MST Subject: [NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd] Pending Upgrades & Announcements 06/04/19
Summary * GFS will have a major upgrade with the 12z cycle June 12. Starting with the 12z cycle June 12, GFS data will
move to the new directory structure of gfs.YYYYMMDD/CC/ from
gfs.YYYYMMDDCC/. Data will not be backfilled. * Grib filter for the parallel GFSv15 0.25 deg output is now on nomads.ncep.noaa.gov, listed at the bottom of the page. The script name is different to keep separate from current production, and will move back to the production names June 12.
Please see below for changes and upgrades:
Marine Fog Product Replacement Scheduled Implementation Date: June 12, 2019
National Water Model Version 2.0 Upgrade
Scheduled Implementation Date: June 19, 2019
Parallel Data: -- Anne Myckow
Lead Dataflow Analyst NOAA/NCEP/NCO _______________________________________________ NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd mailing list NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd@...https://www.lstsrv.ncep.noaa.gov/mailman/listinfo/ncep.list.nomads-ftpprd
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I did some testing today and it looks like it should be a simple change on Wednesday to get everything working. I did some testing with the 0.25 degree filtered file and my parser works on it. Assuming they put back in the filter .pl files and keep the names the same for the 0.5 deg file the only change is the directory structure. The other issue I see is the 0p25 files don't have as many mb levels as the current 0p50 files. I assume that is to keep the file size down and the 0p50 will be the same or better than the current version.
I also fixed the overlay so that is working now. The Database was gone for some reason. I updated the UTC clock on the page to html from flash so that works better.
Look forward to seeing everyone next week.
On Wednesday, June 5, 2019, 8:38:44 PM MST, Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:
The GFS model will undergo physics upgrades at that time. The output formats should remain the same, but the directory structure will apparently change as per the notice. Here's what a current URL looks like:
I assume the tail end would change from 0600/ to 06/00/ on the 12th. The 0.5 deg and 1.0 deg files should still be available, as there are many users.
Those pulling the data from the https server (and perhaps other NOAA model data servers) will have to change their pulls in a turnkey fashion during the 12Z cycle.
I don't know if any of the HABHUB crew is on this email list or not. Hopefully someone can get word to a contact there.
73 de Mark N9XTN
Just to add some interest to the GPSL launch, it looks like the GFS forecast that everyone uses for prediction software is getting a major upgrade the Wednesday before. The announcement is shown below. I am a little confused on exactly what is happening to the existing files (0.5 and 1.0 degree) that most systems use. Since there is a new directory structure it would be nice if both systems could be up for a while but it doesn't sound like that is in the cards.
The pessimist in me says we should all be prepared for none of the prediction software working Friday or Saturday. The best and most likely case is everyone will get the software converted over with a little down time on Wednesday. I plan on working on mine so it is ready but will be traveling on Wednesday so it might be interesting.
If any of you have contacts at Hahhub or any of the other prediction systems it would be great to hear their plans.
Mark Conner, if you have any insight it would be great to hear that as well.
----- Forwarded Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 10:04:23 AM MST Subject: [NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd] Pending Upgrades & Announcements 06/04/19
Summary * GFS will have a major upgrade with the 12z cycle June 12. Starting with the 12z cycle June 12, GFS data will
move to the new directory structure of gfs.YYYYMMDD/CC/ from
gfs.YYYYMMDDCC/. Data will not be backfilled. * Grib filter for the parallel GFSv15 0.25 deg output is now on nomads.ncep.noaa.gov, listed at the bottom of the page. The script name is different to keep separate from current production, and will move back to the production names June 12.
Please see below for changes and upgrades:
Marine Fog Product Replacement Scheduled Implementation Date: June 12, 2019
National Water Model Version 2.0 Upgrade
Scheduled Implementation Date: June 19, 2019
Parallel Data: -- Anne Myckow
Lead Dataflow Analyst NOAA/NCEP/NCO _______________________________________________ NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd mailing list NCEP.list.NOMADS-ftpprd@...https://www.lstsrv.ncep.noaa.gov/mailman/listinfo/ncep.list.nomads-ftpprd
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