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Re: GPSL 2004

paul.verhage@...
 

Should we promote a contest and recognition during the mass launch for a
goal such as highest altitude?
I like the idea. Perhaps we should also make some QSL cards specifically for GPSL 2004
and send those out to anyone making a contact to Mission Control through one of the
balloons.

Several of us now have some really nice pictures for the cards. I'd also0 recommend
sending the cards up on the balloons and recording the altitudes the QSL cards reached
before sending them out.

As soon as we can lock in the Cosmosphere, let's see about passing the word out to all the
amateur radio magazines.

Paul

Re: GPSL 2004

paul.verhage@...
 

I'd say move the launch to July and take advantage of the 4th holiday.

Paul

Doug KA0O brought up that 26/27 June 2004 is Field Day weekend.
Is that going to constrain or help us?

- Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: <paul.verhage@...>
To: <GPSL@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 14:17
Subject: [GPSL] GPSL 2004


I'd like to hold GPSL 2004 at the Cosmosphere, in Hutchinson,
KS. The
Cosmosphere is the second largest air and space museum in the
US. There is an
active near space group and radio club in Hutch, so there is
plenty of support.

Would this be a problem for anyone? The tentative date would
be a week before the
4th of July holiday. I imagine people will be too busy on the
4th to participate.

Inputs please.

Thanks,
Paul



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Re: GPSL 2004

paul.verhage@...
 

July 4th is a Sunday, so the federal holiday will be the 5th.
The long weekend may give some groups more flexibility. Perhaps
we should have a show of hands on whether we have this on 3/4
July or 26/27 June.
Either is fine for me (one of the benefits of being a teacher)

Would we launch from the museum grounds, or somewhere nearby? As
I recall, there may not be a lot of room for multiple flights
especially if we have a breeze.
It would be nice to lauynch at the museum, but if we can't....

Zack, do you have recommendations for launch sites?

I at least want us to present at the museum and also run Mission Control from there. That
way we get more public exposure.

Zack, what do have to do to arrangte this with the museum? I don't think they'll remember
me anymore.

Paul

Re: GPSL 2004

paul.verhage@...
 

Do they have a Starbucks there yet? :)
I'll leave that one up to Zack.

Paul

Near Space Population

paul.verhage@...
 

I think most near space people subscribe to this list.....

I am wondering about the number of people involved in amateur near space activities. Can
someone from each group tell me ( a rough number will do) how many people are involved
in their group? Also, how many people were actiove, but have dropped out.

I'd like to add this as a note to my book.

Thanks for your time,
Paul

Re: GPSL 2004

paul.verhage@...
 

Assuming Zack Clobes, W0ZC, the Project Traveler Team and the Reno County
Kansas Amateur Radio Association will be our hosts, I support Paul's
suggestion. It takes at least a full day to do justice to the Cosmosphere
(they threw me out to close their doors for the evening during my visit a
couple of years ago). This is a very serious space museum that is worth a
special trip regardless of GPSL.
It is Zack and his team.

I hear the Cosmosphere always throws out the best people.

Paul

Re: GPSL 2004

Bill Brown
 

My vote is for the July 4th weekend...it's a free 3 day weekend that way and
easier to take off time from work for me that way....also a lot of folks tied
up with Field Day locally so that would be a bad time for some....I know some
folks from my group who won't be able to come out to the balloon event during
Field Day.

- Bill WB8ELK

Re: GPSL 2004

Ralph Wallio, W0RPK <wallio@...>
 

My vote is for the long July 4th weekend for GPSL2004.

The Cosmosphere environment would nicely support a day of conference
discussions. These discussions may result in a few new Traveler Team
members.

Should we promote a contest and recognition during the mass launch for a
goal such as highest altitude?

-w0rpk

Re: GPSL 2004

Mark Conner <n9xtn@...>
 

Doug KA0O brought up that 26/27 June 2004 is Field Day weekend.
Is that going to constrain or help us?

- Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: <paul.verhage@...>
To: <GPSL@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 14:17
Subject: [GPSL] GPSL 2004


I'd like to hold GPSL 2004 at the Cosmosphere, in Hutchinson,
KS. The
Cosmosphere is the second largest air and space museum in the
US. There is an
active near space group and radio club in Hutch, so there is
plenty of support.

Would this be a problem for anyone? The tentative date would
be a week before the
4th of July holiday. I imagine people will be too busy on the
4th to participate.

Inputs please.

Thanks,
Paul

Re: GPSL 2004

Zack Clobes <zclobes@...>
 

I think the Cosmosphere grounds may be a little cramped to do a
multi-balloon launch there. There is a football field just across the
parking lot where we've had field day before, but as I recall, we were not
allowed to step foot onto the turf itself - we were banned to one edge of
the field.

I will start thinking about alternates...

Zack Clobes, W0ZC
Project: Traveler
www.rckara.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Conner" <n9xtn@...>
To: <GPSL@...>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [GPSL] GPSL 2004


I think we can get a quorum from NSTAR to participate.

We may need to get Zack to scout an alternate launch site in case
we need it. Wichita, Newton, McPherson, and the Cheney Reservoir
are all within 40 miles of Hutchinson.

July 4th is a Sunday, so the federal holiday will be the 5th.
The long weekend may give some groups more flexibility. Perhaps
we should have a show of hands on whether we have this on 3/4
July or 26/27 June.

Would we launch from the museum grounds, or somewhere nearby? As
I recall, there may not be a lot of room for multiple flights
especially if we have a breeze.

73 de Mark N9XTN


----- Original Message -----
From: <paul.verhage@...>
To: <GPSL@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 14:17
Subject: [GPSL] GPSL 2004


I'd like to hold GPSL 2004 at the Cosmosphere, in Hutchinson,
KS. The
Cosmosphere is the second largest air and space museum in the
US. There is an
active near space group and radio club in Hutch, so there is
plenty of support.

Would this be a problem for anyone? The tentative date would
be a week before the
4th of July holiday. I imagine people will be too busy on the
4th to participate.

Inputs please.

Thanks,
Paul



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Re: GPSL 2004

Mark Conner <n9xtn@...>
 

I think we can get a quorum from NSTAR to participate.

We may need to get Zack to scout an alternate launch site in case
we need it. Wichita, Newton, McPherson, and the Cheney Reservoir
are all within 40 miles of Hutchinson.

July 4th is a Sunday, so the federal holiday will be the 5th.
The long weekend may give some groups more flexibility. Perhaps
we should have a show of hands on whether we have this on 3/4
July or 26/27 June.

Would we launch from the museum grounds, or somewhere nearby? As
I recall, there may not be a lot of room for multiple flights
especially if we have a breeze.

73 de Mark N9XTN

----- Original Message -----
From: <paul.verhage@...>
To: <GPSL@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 14:17
Subject: [GPSL] GPSL 2004


I'd like to hold GPSL 2004 at the Cosmosphere, in Hutchinson,
KS. The
Cosmosphere is the second largest air and space museum in the
US. There is an
active near space group and radio club in Hutch, so there is
plenty of support.

Would this be a problem for anyone? The tentative date would
be a week before the
4th of July holiday. I imagine people will be too busy on the
4th to participate.

Inputs please.

Thanks,
Paul

Re: GPSL 2004

Zack Clobes <zclobes@...>
 

No starbucks, but there are several new coffee shops popping up around town.

Zack Clobes, W0ZC
Project: Traveler
www.rckara.org

----- Original Message -----
From: <mgray@...>
To: <GPSL@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:58 PM
Subject: RE: [GPSL] GPSL 2004


Do they have a Starbucks there yet? :)

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Rick von Glahn wrote:

I really enjoyed coming out to Manhattan last year. Visiting the
Cosmosphere and doin' it all again next year looks like a great idea and
location.

73 -- Rick, N�KKZ

-----Original Message-----
From: paul.verhage@...
[mailto:paul.verhage@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 12:17 PM
To: GPSL@...
Subject: [GPSL] GPSL 2004


I'd like to hold GPSL 2004 at the Cosmosphere, in Hutchinson,
KS.

Would this be a problem for anyone? The tentative date would
be a week before the
4th of July holiday.

Inputs please.

Thanks,
Paul

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Re: GPSL 2004

mgray@...
 

Do they have a Starbucks there yet? :)

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Rick von Glahn wrote:

I really enjoyed coming out to Manhattan last year. Visiting the
Cosmosphere and doin' it all again next year looks like a great idea and
location.

73 -- Rick, N�KKZ

-----Original Message-----
From: paul.verhage@...
[mailto:paul.verhage@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 12:17 PM
To: GPSL@...
Subject: [GPSL] GPSL 2004


I'd like to hold GPSL 2004 at the Cosmosphere, in Hutchinson,
KS.

Would this be a problem for anyone? The tentative date would
be a week before the
4th of July holiday.

Inputs please.

Thanks,
Paul

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Re: GPSL 2004

Bill Brown
 

Sounds like a great location to me....I'll be there....I'll try to bring a
payload this time.

- Bill WB8ELK

Re: GPSL 2004

Rick von Glahn <rickvg@...>
 

I really enjoyed coming out to Manhattan last year. Visiting the
Cosmosphere and doin' it all again next year looks like a great idea and
location.

73 -- Rick, NØKKZ

-----Original Message-----
From: paul.verhage@...
[mailto:paul.verhage@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 12:17 PM
To: GPSL@...
Subject: [GPSL] GPSL 2004


I'd like to hold GPSL 2004 at the Cosmosphere, in Hutchinson,
KS.

Would this be a problem for anyone? The tentative date would
be a week before the
4th of July holiday.

Inputs please.

Thanks,
Paul

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Re: GPSL 2004

Ralph Wallio, W0RPK <wallio@...>
 

Assuming Zack Clobes, W0ZC, the Project Traveler Team and the Reno County
Kansas Amateur Radio Association will be our hosts, I support Paul's
suggestion. It takes at least a full day to do justice to the Cosmosphere
(they threw me out to close their doors for the evening during my visit a
couple of years ago). This is a very serious space museum that is worth a
special trip regardless of GPSL.

See http://www.rckara.org/ then http://www.rckara.org/project_traveler/ then
http://www.cosmo.org/.

TNX es 73 de Ralph Wallio, W0RPK
wallio@...
http://users.crosspaths.net/wallio/
Hubbert's Peak - The Mother of all Perfect Storms

----- Original Message -----
From: <paul.verhage@...>
To: <GPSL@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:17 PM
Subject: [GPSL] GPSL 2004


I'd like to hold GPSL 2004 at the Cosmosphere, in Hutchinson, KS. The
Cosmosphere is the second largest air and space museum in the US. There
is an
active near space group and radio club in Hutch, so there is plenty of
support.

Would this be a problem for anyone? The tentative date would be a week
before the
4th of July holiday. I imagine people will be too busy on the 4th to
participate.

Inputs please.

Thanks,
Paul

GPSL 2004

paul.verhage@...
 

I'd like to hold GPSL 2004 at the Cosmosphere, in Hutchinson, KS. The
Cosmosphere is the second largest air and space museum in the US. There is an
active near space group and radio club in Hutch, so there is plenty of support.

Would this be a problem for anyone? The tentative date would be a week before the
4th of July holiday. I imagine people will be too busy on the 4th to participate.

Inputs please.

Thanks,
Paul

Re: [EOSS] "Balloon" pilot reports

Mark Conner <n9xtn@...>
 

The COS report was the same date as the others for the Detroit flight (Sunday the 22nd), so it wasn't a GPSL balloon.  No balloon PIREPs were found for the 14th.
 
73 de Mark N9XTN

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Manes
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 18:14
Subject: Re: [EOSS] "Balloon" pilot reports

Hi, yawl,

Thanks to Mark for pulling those down.  Kinda surprised that there
weren't more PIREPs during GPSL.

As I read that first one, a Lear Jet LJ60) reported to Denver Center
(ZDV) seeing one at 36,000 ft (FL360) at 0855 MDST (1455Z) 20 mile NW of
the Black Forest VOR (BRK 340020). That VOR is about 2 miles W of
Falcon CO, and about 20 NE of Colo Sprgs.  So that mighta been one of
the GPSL balloons, but not sure which one was still intact at that time.
EOSS-67A was on the deck at 0850, and the rest of the latex bags were
either 'way up there or already descending on 'chutes.  Mighta been
the ES-OS plastic balloon much higher than 36K' at that time, though;
can't tell since the findu log for KC0JHQ-11 isn't time-stamped. Maybe
the PIREP altitude is for the rerporting aircraft rather than the
balloon (tough to estimate unless it's right on the horizon).

The other two were on the incorrect side of the MS River to be ours.

73 de Mike W5VSI

n9xtn@... wrote:
>
> Out of curiosity, I searched for "balloon" in yesterday's pilot reports from 1100 to 0300 UTC.  Here are three.
>
> COS UA /OV BRK 340020/TM 1455/FL360/TP LJ60/RM WEATHER BALLOON AT
> FL360...ZDV=
>
> DTW UA /OV CRL/TM 1510/FL310/TP UNKN/RM NUMR ACFT REPORT WX BALLOON
>  FL310-320=
>
> FDY UA /OV FDY135020/TM 1943/FL245/TP UNKN/RM WX BALLOON=
>
> Not sure what the first one is, but the other two are probably the flight from the Detroit launch.  CRL is a VORTAC about 10 miles south of DTW, which is downwind of the last report on FindU.  FDY is Findlay, OH - the location reported is around 100-125 miles south of Detroit.
>
> If you ever wish to do your own hunting for balloon pilot reports, a 7-day PIREP/AIREP archive is at http://www.met.fsu.edu/Data/archive/aircraft/
>
> 73 de Mark N9XTN
>
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Re: [EOSS] "Balloon" pilot reports

Mike Manes <manes@...>
 

Hi, yawl,

Thanks to Mark for pulling those down. Kinda surprised that there
weren't more PIREPs during GPSL.

As I read that first one, a Lear Jet LJ60) reported to Denver Center
(ZDV) seeing one at 36,000 ft (FL360) at 0855 MDST (1455Z) 20 mile NW of
the Black Forest VOR (BRK 340020). That VOR is about 2 miles W of
Falcon CO, and about 20 NE of Colo Sprgs. So that mighta been one of
the GPSL balloons, but not sure which one was still intact at that time.
EOSS-67A was on the deck at 0850, and the rest of the latex bags were
either 'way up there or already descending on 'chutes. Mighta been
the ES-OS plastic balloon much higher than 36K' at that time, though;
can't tell since the findu log for KC0JHQ-11 isn't time-stamped. Maybe
the PIREP altitude is for the rerporting aircraft rather than the
balloon (tough to estimate unless it's right on the horizon).

The other two were on the incorrect side of the MS River to be ours.

73 de Mike W5VSI

n9xtn@... wrote:


Out of curiosity, I searched for "balloon" in yesterday's pilot reports from 1100 to 0300 UTC. Here are three.

COS UA /OV BRK 340020/TM 1455/FL360/TP LJ60/RM WEATHER BALLOON AT
FL360...ZDV=

DTW UA /OV CRL/TM 1510/FL310/TP UNKN/RM NUMR ACFT REPORT WX BALLOON
FL310-320=

FDY UA /OV FDY135020/TM 1943/FL245/TP UNKN/RM WX BALLOON=

Not sure what the first one is, but the other two are probably the flight from the Detroit launch. CRL is a VORTAC about 10 miles south of DTW, which is downwind of the last report on FindU. FDY is Findlay, OH - the location reported is around 100-125 miles south of Detroit.

If you ever wish to do your own hunting for balloon pilot reports, a 7-day PIREP/AIREP archive is at http://www.met.fsu.edu/Data/archive/aircraft/

73 de Mark N9XTN


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Updated web page for NSTAR 03-C

Mark Conner <n9xtn@...>
 

I have enhanced the aerial photos, included ground photos, and
now have a map and flight summary posted to
http://www.nstar.org/#03C. I hope to have video and audio clips
posted by Sunday evening. Kurt KC0HMI got a good photo of the
capsules about 200 ft AGL on the way down, which is featured on
the main page.

Doug KA0O got some telephoto pictures of the landing, which I'm
hoping to see soon (hint, hint, Doug). :)

73 de Mark N9XTN
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