Date   

360 Video

L. Paul Verhage KD4STH
 

I picked up a Samsung 360 camera (Zack discussed the camera last ear at GPSL) for testing. My first attempt as 360 movie making is on my YouTube channel at, https://youtu.be/upWdOLxcAvs

It looks like the meta data is only letting YouTube show 1/2 the video.

--
Dr. L. Paul Verhage
Near Space Evangelist


Re: WSPR Mode

Alan Adamson
 

You’ve probably seem mine.

 

HIRF(w)-6 has been up now for 1.5 years.  It’s using my own little board, that I designed and made.  The board is < 1 sq in, and the entire payload weighs ~9grams with antennas. 

 

I transmits on APRS and WSPR.  At the time is was launched I had one up with my callsign, so this one uses a friends – K4JCW

 

APRS geofence changes frequency as needed for geography and both radios shutoff if local regulation don’t allow for airborne radio usage (e.g. UK, and other locations).

 

APRS is 2 beacons 15 seconds apart every 2 minutes and WSPR on 14.0956 (20 meters every 10 minutes).  Both antennas are ½ dipoles for their respective frequencies.  I uses a custom extension to WSPR to allow for 6-8 telemetry values as well as location/callsign, etc

 

It’s solar only so it shuts off at night.  And it uses a supercap for a battery so it doesn’t have a temperature shutoff issue at 45-48k feet.

 

Here is a picture of the board and as it was at flight.

 

It was launched on 9/20/2016 and has reported in all but about 5 days during its entire life span.  It’s using one this balloon (SBS-13) - http://www.scientificballoonsolutions.com/products/

 

Hope that helps (all but the are they available – these are not)

 

Alan – W7QO

 

From: GPSL@groups.io <GPSL@groups.io> On Behalf Of AE5IB (Kip)
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 1:54 PM
To: GPSL@groups.io
Subject: [GPSL] WSPR Mode

 

I have seen people using WSPR mode for round the world balloon tracking. 

 

What hardware are they using? 

Is something available or are they rolling their own? 

 

Kip


WSPR Mode

AE5IB (Kip)
 

I have seen people using WSPR mode for round the world balloon tracking. 

What hardware are they using? 

Is something available or are they rolling their own? 

Kip


Looking for a speaker for the Dayton Hamvention BalloonSat Forum

Bill Brown
 

If anyone interested in talking about their balloon activities at the Dayton Hamvention, let me know.

- Bill WB8ELK


Re: Stephen Hawkings

L. Paul Verhage KD4STH
 

I can not tell you how many pies I am watching arrive at the math and science center where I teach.

On Mar 14, 2018 7:36 AM, "Jeff Ducklow" <jeffducklow@...> wrote:
Fittingly, he died on Pi day.


On Mar 14, 2018, at 5:44 AM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH <nearsys@...> wrote:

Dr. Hawkings has passed away. He managed to live 55 years with ALS. One of his amazing discoveries is that black holes evaporate over time.


Re: Stephen Hawkings

Jeff Ducklow
 

Fittingly, he died on Pi day.


On Mar 14, 2018, at 5:44 AM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH <nearsys@...> wrote:

Dr. Hawkings has passed away. He managed to live 55 years with ALS. One of his amazing discoveries is that black holes evaporate over time.


Stephen Hawkings

L. Paul Verhage KD4STH
 

Dr. Hawkings has passed away. He managed to live 55 years with ALS. One of his amazing discoveries is that black holes evaporate over time.


Re: APRSISCE and balloon chasing

Mark Conner N9XTN
 

Comments inline below

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:58 PM, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) <ldeffenb@...> wrote:
On 3/12/2018 9:25 PM, Mark Conner N9XTN wrote:
Since I got a new laptop last fall, I decided to make a break with the APRSPlus program I've been using for nearly 20 (!) years now and installed APRSISCE.  I finally got it to talk to my KPC-3 on a USB-to-serial adapter and it will source GPS data from my phone.  I think I also have it caching maps correctly so I can have maps without an Internet connection.

Great!  May I ask what you're using to get the GPS from the phone to the laptop?  An app on the phone that offers a Bluetooth GPS via SPP?

​The program is called "Share GPS".  I'm not sure of the protocol, but it works.  The only 'glitch' is that APRSISCE believes I only have a 2D GPS lock, but altitude is being provided and a different phone app shows the GPS has a 3D lock.  I imagine it's because of the data being shared not being quite right.​

 
One of the features I like about APRSPlus is that I can have a list of "tracked" stations and only see posits from those tracked stations.  I usually set that to my balloon callsigns so that I can quickly see if they are being received regularly and eyeball ascent/descent rates from sequential packets.  Is there a way to see that on APRSISCE, either via one of the logging windows or some other method?

It depends on what you mean by "see posits".  The implication from the rest of your description implies that you have a log that only shows selected stations' packets.  Or is it that you only want to see selected stations on the map?

For the former, if you can craft an APRS-IS-compatible filter string describing what you want to see (say b/BALLON-1/BALLON-2 or b/N9XTN*) then you can put that into the Configure / Scroller / Filter.  This filter is applied to all received packets on their way to the packet scroller along the left edge of the screen.  I suspect that's what you're after.   If you want to see the actual raw packets only for selected stations, sorry, that's not something that's available anywhere at this time.  But I have been requested to add some balloon tracking features which would include the ascent/descent rate automatically calculated.

​This sounds close to what I need, minus looking at raw packets.  This would keep the scroller 'clutter' down.  I think I do want to see all stations mapped.

I've noticed that the documentation on http://aprsisce.wikidot.com is a little thin, out of date, or outright missing in many places.  Is there a better source?


If you see something thin that you know something about, feel free to write up an article and we'll get it added to the Wiki.  As far as a better source, ask in the APRSISCE Yahoo group as Chris suggested.  There's lots of folks over there that can answer questions (and I hang out there as well!).

 
​I've been lurking on the APRSISCE list for a​ while.  It looks like there is a lot of scattered wisdom throughout the archive that may not be reflected in the wiki.  Unfortunately searching Yahoo's archive can be a pain, especially if you can't determine the right word or phrase to pull out what you want.  It would be nice to have more of that info collected into the wiki.

If I get to the point where I can contribute to the wiki usefully, I'll draft something up.

73 de Mark N9XTN


Re: APRSISCE and balloon chasing

Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) <ldeffenb@...>
 

On 3/12/2018 9:25 PM, Mark Conner N9XTN wrote:
Since I got a new laptop last fall, I decided to make a break with the APRSPlus program I've been using for nearly 20 (!) years now and installed APRSISCE.  I finally got it to talk to my KPC-3 on a USB-to-serial adapter and it will source GPS data from my phone.  I think I also have it caching maps correctly so I can have maps without an Internet connection.

Great!  May I ask what you're using to get the GPS from the phone to the laptop?  An app on the phone that offers a Bluetooth GPS via SPP?


One of the features I like about APRSPlus is that I can have a list of "tracked" stations and only see posits from those tracked stations.  I usually set that to my balloon callsigns so that I can quickly see if they are being received regularly and eyeball ascent/descent rates from sequential packets.  Is there a way to see that on APRSISCE, either via one of the logging windows or some other method?

It depends on what you mean by "see posits".  The implication from the rest of your description implies that you have a log that only shows selected stations' packets.  Or is it that you only want to see selected stations on the map?

For the former, if you can craft an APRS-IS-compatible filter string describing what you want to see (say b/BALLON-1/BALLON-2 or b/N9XTN*) then you can put that into the Configure / Scroller / Filter.  This filter is applied to all received packets on their way to the packet scroller along the left edge of the screen.  I suspect that's what you're after.   If you want to see the actual raw packets only for selected stations, sorry, that's not something that's available anywhere at this time.  But I have been requested to add some balloon tracking features which would include the ascent/descent rate automatically calculated.

If it is to only see selected stations on a map, the easiest way to do that is with !shriek!s.  You can use Nicknames to specify !shriek!s locally for stations that may not be transmitting them in their packets.  And then you use View / None followed by View / Shriek / !Whatever! to only see those stations on your map.  Here's 2 slides from an APRSIS32 presentation I did once.  Hopefully it'll provide enough hints that you can work out what it all means.  If not, ask for additional clarification.





I've noticed that the documentation on http://aprsisce.wikidot.com is a little thin, out of date, or outright missing in many places.  Is there a better source?


If you see something thin that you know something about, feel free to write up an article and we'll get it added to the Wiki.  As far as a better source, ask in the APRSISCE Yahoo group as Chris suggested.  There's lots of folks over there that can answer questions (and I hang out there as well!).

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Re: APRSISCE and balloon chasing

Christopher Rose
 

Cross post this to the aprsisce board and see if Lynn or Rob will respond.


Chris

KB8UIH

-----------------------------------------

From: "Mark Conner N9XTN"
To:
Cc:
Sent: 13-Mar-2018 01:25:34 +0000
Subject: [GPSL] APRSISCE and balloon chasing

Since I got a new laptop last fall, I decided to make a break with the APRSPlus program I've been using for nearly 20 (!) years now and installed APRSISCE.  I finally got it to talk to my KPC-3 on a USB-to-serial adapter and it will source GPS data from my phone.  I think I also have it caching maps correctly so I can have maps without an Internet connection.

One of the features I like about APRSPlus is that I can have a list of "tracked" stations and only see posits from those tracked stations.  I usually set that to my balloon callsigns so that I can quickly see if they are being received regularly and eyeball ascent/descent rates from sequential packets.  Is there a way to see that on APRSISCE, either via one of the logging windows or some other method?

I've noticed that the documentation on http://aprsisce.wikidot.com is a little thin, out of date, or outright missing in many places.  Is there a better source?

73 de Mark N9XTN


APRSISCE and balloon chasing

Mark Conner N9XTN
 

Since I got a new laptop last fall, I decided to make a break with the APRSPlus program I've been using for nearly 20 (!) years now and installed APRSISCE.  I finally got it to talk to my KPC-3 on a USB-to-serial adapter and it will source GPS data from my phone.  I think I also have it caching maps correctly so I can have maps without an Internet connection.

One of the features I like about APRSPlus is that I can have a list of "tracked" stations and only see posits from those tracked stations.  I usually set that to my balloon callsigns so that I can quickly see if they are being received regularly and eyeball ascent/descent rates from sequential packets.  Is there a way to see that on APRSISCE, either via one of the logging windows or some other method?

I've noticed that the documentation on http://aprsisce.wikidot.com is a little thin, out of date, or outright missing in many places.  Is there a better source?

73 de Mark N9XTN


Re: Anyone going to Dayton Hamvention who would like to talk about Eclipse balloons ?

L. Paul Verhage KD4STH
 

I am not attending, but I would like to give you some Power Point slides you could use if you're presenting.



On Mar 12, 2018 12:07 AM, "Bill Brown via Groups.Io" <wb8elk=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Is anyone going to the Dayton Hamvention who would like to talk about their Eclipse balloon results?

- Bill WB8ELK


Anyone going to Dayton Hamvention who would like to talk about Eclipse balloons ?

Bill Brown
 

Is anyone going to the Dayton Hamvention who would like to talk about their Eclipse balloon results?

- Bill WB8ELK


Welcome to the new GPSL list

Mark Conner N9XTN
 

GPSL list members,

Here is a test message from the new list!  Please take a moment to update your settings at groups.io if you want to change how your name appears to the rest of the e-mail list.  Setting it to your real name and ham radio callsign (if you have one) would be helpful.  You can change your profile settings for the group at https://groups.io/g/GPSL/editprofile .

I'll be tweaking some settings as I get time to hopefully optimize the functionality of the list.  Let's hope this list is easier to use and manage than Yahoo Groups.  

73 de Mark N9XTN


Re: Proposed migration to groups.io for GPSL in next couple of weeks

Mark Conner N9XTN
 

After a couple of delays, the migration to groups.io has officially begun.  This may take a few days to complete, and any messages between now and when it's done may not make it.  I'll follow up with a notice on the Yahoo list once it's done.  Hopefully this will be painless for all concerned.

73 de Mark N9XTN


On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 9:06 PM, Mark Conner <mconner1@...> wrote:
GPSL list members,

As many of you know, Yahoo Groups can be a PITA.  While it seems to have been reasonably well-behaved recently, we have had periods where it is very stubborn about setting different features, subscribing/unsubscribing members, and so forth.  I don't think Yahoo is putting a lot of time and resources into their Groups functionality, and I could see it dying out over time.

Groups.io has been around since about 2015.  Several ham radio groups in the Omaha area have moved from Yahoo to this service, and all have said it's been for the better.  I think there are some features we could make use of, like sub-lists, hashtags, and so on.

There is also an automated migration feature, which will essentially transfer over all the message archive (but not attachments) and subscribers.  All GPSL subscribers would get a message asking them to confirm their e-mail address to join the new list.  If you'd rather use a new e-mail address instead of the one linked to the Yahoo list, you can ignore that invitation and subscribe by an e-mail request from your preferred account.

If we go forward, the migration would start on or about March 5th - this is to allow time for everything to be stabilized on the new list before heavy-duty discussions about GPSL 2018 begin (not to mention balloon flying season for most subscribers).  It may take as long as a week to move all the messages over and get all the subscription invitations sent out.  After that time, the Yahoo GPSL list would go into caretaker status, with periodic reminders sent out that we are on groups.io instead.  I'm hoping I can set up an auto-responder so that when someone posts to Yahoo GPSL after the closure date, it will let them know the list has moved.  The Yahoo list will not be deleted anytime soon and the archives will remain open.  We will respond to any migration issues as soon as we can.
 
I just checked the archive and the GPSL list has been around since May 2002.  It was a "splinter" of the KNSP list, which Paul KD4STH began around 1996 I think.  The GPSL list has 402 members, but about 30 of the addresses appear to be dead. 

I think we can do this with a minimum of pain and have ourselves on a better platform going forward.  If we find something horribly wrong, we will maintain the ability to revert back to Yahoo if necessary.  If there is anyone out there that has objections to the move because of known problems with groups.io, please respond with details. 

73 de Mark N9XTN
GPSL list owner




Speakers

L. Paul Verhage KD4STH
 

I'm looking for speakers and their topics. If you'd like to present at GPSL, please email me with your topic.

We will have tables, PC, and LCD projector.

Thanks


Re: Proposed migration to groups.io for GPSL in next couple of weeks

Timothy Cathcart
 

I support this move as well!! 

Thanks for looking out and making a move in a different direction.

Tim

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Mark Conner mconner1@... [GPSL] <GPSL-noreply@...> wrote:
 

GPSL list members,

As many of you know, Yahoo Groups can be a PITA.  While it seems to have been reasonably well-behaved recently, we have had periods where it is very stubborn about setting different features, subscribing/unsubscribing members, and so forth.  I don't think Yahoo is putting a lot of time and resources into their Groups functionality, and I could see it dying out over time.

Groups.io has been around since about 2015.  Several ham radio groups in the Omaha area have moved from Yahoo to this service, and all have said it's been for the better.  I think there are some features we could make use of, like sub-lists, hashtags, and so on.

There is also an automated migration feature, which will essentially transfer over all the message archive (but not attachments) and subscribers.  All GPSL subscribers would get a message asking them to confirm their e-mail address to join the new list.  If you'd rather use a new e-mail address instead of the one linked to the Yahoo list, you can ignore that invitation and subscribe by an e-mail request from your preferred account.

If we go forward, the migration would start on or about March 5th - this is to allow time for everything to be stabilized on the new list before heavy-duty discussions about GPSL 2018 begin (not to mention balloon flying season for most subscribers).  It may take as long as a week to move all the messages over and get all the subscription invitations sent out.  After that time, the Yahoo GPSL list would go into caretaker status, with periodic reminders sent out that we are on groups.io instead.  I'm hoping I can set up an auto-responder so that when someone posts to Yahoo GPSL after the closure date, it will let them know the list has moved.  The Yahoo list will not be deleted anytime soon and the archives will remain open.  We will respond to any migration issues as soon as we can.
 
I just checked the archive and the GPSL list has been around since May 2002.  It was a "splinter" of the KNSP list, which Paul KD4STH began around 1996 I think.  The GPSL list has 402 members, but about 30 of the addresses appear to be dead. 

I think we can do this with a minimum of pain and have ourselves on a better platform going forward.  If we find something horribly wrong, we will maintain the ability to revert back to Yahoo if necessary.  If there is anyone out there that has objections to the move because of known problems with groups.io, please respond with details. 

73 de Mark N9XTN
GPSL list owner




Re: Proposed migration to groups.io for GPSL in next couple of weeks

Nick
 

Sounds like the smart thing to do.

 

Nick

NØLP

EOSS

 

 

From: GPSL@... [mailto:GPSL@...] On Behalf Of Mark Conner mconner1@... [GPSL]
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 20:07
To: GPSL list
Subject: [GPSL] Proposed migration to groups.io for GPSL in next couple of weeks

 

 

GPSL list members,

 

As many of you know, Yahoo Groups can be a PITA.  While it seems to have been reasonably well-behaved recently, we have had periods where it is very stubborn about setting different features, subscribing/unsubscribing members, and so forth.  I don't think Yahoo is putting a lot of time and resources into their Groups functionality, and I could see it dying out over time.

 

Groups.io has been around since about 2015.  Several ham radio groups in the Omaha area have moved from Yahoo to this service, and all have said it's been for the better.  I think there are some features we could make use of, like sub-lists, hashtags, and so on.

 

There is also an automated migration feature, which will essentially transfer over all the message archive (but not attachments) and subscribers.  All GPSL subscribers would get a message asking them to confirm their e-mail address to join the new list.  If you'd rather use a new e-mail address instead of the one linked to the Yahoo list, you can ignore that invitation and subscribe by an e-mail request from your preferred account.

 

If we go forward, the migration would start on or about March 5th - this is to allow time for everything to be stabilized on the new list before heavy-duty discussions about GPSL 2018 begin (not to mention balloon flying season for most subscribers).  It may take as long as a week to move all the messages over and get all the subscription invitations sent out.  After that time, the Yahoo GPSL list would go into caretaker status, with periodic reminders sent out that we are on groups.io instead.  I'm hoping I can set up an auto-responder so that when someone posts to Yahoo GPSL after the closure date, it will let them know the list has moved.  The Yahoo list will not be deleted anytime soon and the archives will remain open.  We will respond to any migration issues as soon as we can.

 

I just checked the archive and the GPSL list has been around since May 2002.  It was a "splinter" of the KNSP list, which Paul KD4STH began around 1996 I think.  The GPSL list has 402 members, but about 30 of the addresses appear to be dead. 

 

I think we can do this with a minimum of pain and have ourselves on a better platform going forward.  If we find something horribly wrong, we will maintain the ability to revert back to Yahoo if necessary.  If there is anyone out there that has objections to the move because of known problems with groups.io, please respond with details. 



73 de Mark N9XTN

GPSL list owner






Re: Proposed migration to groups.io for GPSL in next couple of weeks

L. Paul Verhage KD4STH
 

I too are in favor of the transition.

On Feb 25, 2018 9:03 PM, "WA0TJT wa0tjt@... [GPSL]" <GPSL-noreply@...> wrote:


Many other Yahoo groups have already migrated. I like the new groups.io place, lets move.
Keith, WA0̷TJT



On Feb 25, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Mark Conner mconner1@... [GPSL] <GPSL-noreply@...> wrote:


GPSL list members,

As many of you know, Yahoo Groups can be a PITA.  While it seems to have been reasonably well-behaved recently, we have had periods where it is very stubborn about setting different features, subscribing/unsubscribing members, and so forth.  I don't think Yahoo is putting a lot of time and resources into their Groups functionality, and I could see it dying out over time.

Groups.io has been around since about 2015.  Several ham radio groups in the Omaha area have moved from Yahoo to this service, and all have said it's been for the better.  I think there are some features we could make use of, like sub-lists, hashtags, and so on.

There is also an automated migration feature, which will essentially transfer over all the message archive (but not attachments) and subscribers.  All GPSL subscribers would get a message asking them to confirm their e-mail address to join the new list.  If you'd rather use a new e-mail address instead of the one linked to the Yahoo list, you can ignore that invitation and subscribe by an e-mail request from your preferred account.

If we go forward, the migration would start on or about March 5th - this is to allow time for everything to be stabilized on the new list before heavy-duty discussions about GPSL 2018 begin (not to mention balloon flying season for most subscribers).  It may take as long as a week to move all the messages over and get all the subscription invitations sent out.  After that time, the Yahoo GPSL list would go into caretaker status, with periodic reminders sent out that we are on groups.io instead.  I'm hoping I can set up an auto-responder so that when someone posts to Yahoo GPSL after the closure date, it will let them know the list has moved.  The Yahoo list will not be deleted anytime soon and the archives will remain open.  We will respond to any migration issues as soon as we can.
 
I just checked the archive and the GPSL list has been around since May 2002.  It was a "splinter" of the KNSP list, which Paul KD4STH began around 1996 I think.  The GPSL list has 402 members, but about 30 of the addresses appear to be dead. 

I think we can do this with a minimum of pain and have ourselves on a better platform going forward.  If we find something horribly wrong, we will maintain the ability to revert back to Yahoo if necessary.  If there is anyone out there that has objections to the move because of known problems with groups.io, please respond with details. 

73 de Mark N9XTN
GPSL list owner







Re: Proposed migration to groups.io for GPSL in next couple of weeks

L. Paul Verhage KD4STH
 

I too are in favor of the transition.

On Feb 25, 2018 9:03 PM, "WA0TJT wa0tjt@... [GPSL]" <GPSL-noreply@...> wrote:


Many other Yahoo groups have already migrated. I like the new groups.io place, lets move.
Keith, WA0̷TJT



On Feb 25, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Mark Conner mconner1@... [GPSL] <GPSL-noreply@...> wrote:


GPSL list members,

As many of you know, Yahoo Groups can be a PITA.  While it seems to have been reasonably well-behaved recently, we have had periods where it is very stubborn about setting different features, subscribing/unsubscribing members, and so forth.  I don't think Yahoo is putting a lot of time and resources into their Groups functionality, and I could see it dying out over time.

Groups.io has been around since about 2015.  Several ham radio groups in the Omaha area have moved from Yahoo to this service, and all have said it's been for the better.  I think there are some features we could make use of, like sub-lists, hashtags, and so on.

There is also an automated migration feature, which will essentially transfer over all the message archive (but not attachments) and subscribers.  All GPSL subscribers would get a message asking them to confirm their e-mail address to join the new list.  If you'd rather use a new e-mail address instead of the one linked to the Yahoo list, you can ignore that invitation and subscribe by an e-mail request from your preferred account.

If we go forward, the migration would start on or about March 5th - this is to allow time for everything to be stabilized on the new list before heavy-duty discussions about GPSL 2018 begin (not to mention balloon flying season for most subscribers).  It may take as long as a week to move all the messages over and get all the subscription invitations sent out.  After that time, the Yahoo GPSL list would go into caretaker status, with periodic reminders sent out that we are on groups.io instead.  I'm hoping I can set up an auto-responder so that when someone posts to Yahoo GPSL after the closure date, it will let them know the list has moved.  The Yahoo list will not be deleted anytime soon and the archives will remain open.  We will respond to any migration issues as soon as we can.
 
I just checked the archive and the GPSL list has been around since May 2002.  It was a "splinter" of the KNSP list, which Paul KD4STH began around 1996 I think.  The GPSL list has 402 members, but about 30 of the addresses appear to be dead. 

I think we can do this with a minimum of pain and have ourselves on a better platform going forward.  If we find something horribly wrong, we will maintain the ability to revert back to Yahoo if necessary.  If there is anyone out there that has objections to the move because of known problems with groups.io, please respond with details. 

73 de Mark N9XTN
GPSL list owner