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Re: Recoveries

John Kovac KM6GKF
 

Hope that last payload finds its way home eventually.

The line on ours broke about a foot below the parachute.  The only thing I can figure is that the line somehow snagged around a small part of he tracker, which was on the line below the parachute, and cut it when it came under tension. 

We were using the flight line sold by High Altitude Science.   I doubt that the line itself was at fault, but would like to know what others are using for flight line.

In spite of our failure, we enjoyed event very much.  It was great to meet all of you.






From: L. Paul Verhage KD4STH <nearsys@...>
To: GPSL@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 5:50 PM
Subject: [GPSL] Recoveries

The second launch site launched 5 balloons and three of them have been recovered. 

The first one broke loose of the parachute and took off without the tracker so we're writing that flight off. 

The last one landed nearing major road south of Boise and it appears to have been picked up by a stranger. This flight reach the 124700 feet and landed far west of the rest of the balloons. However, we were recovering the other balloons first and this one was out in the desert near. major road for several hours before we got there. We have a good bead on its landing site and search the area thoroughly. Since there's no balloon to be found I am assuming that a stranger picked it up.



Lesson Learned

L. Paul Verhage KD4STH
 

At conferences, we need to be better at staying in contact with each team. Perhaps one person should be assigned this task.

Glad to see EOSS went out with a team.


Re: EOSS

L. Paul Verhage KD4STH
 

I don't know how we could have helped them. They were a few hours away from us when we got back and out of phone range. We received no messages, so we were in the dark.

We may want to hold every future GPSL out of mountainous locations. Good to hear they got back, I was expecting them to leave without a payload.

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 10:45 PM Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:
Glad they got it back!

- Mark


On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:35 PM L. Paul Verhage KD4STH <nearsys@...> wrote:
Just got a call, EOSS just got back and is having dinner. They had to retrieve their payload from near Lowman on highway 21.

They're all safe and sound. And probably hungry.

We should be getting more info soon.


Re: EOSS

Mark Conner N9XTN
 

Glad they got it back!

- Mark


On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:35 PM L. Paul Verhage KD4STH <nearsys@...> wrote:
Just got a call, EOSS just got back and is having dinner. They had to retrieve their payload from near Lowman on highway 21.

They're all safe and sound. And probably hungry.

We should be getting more info soon.


EOSS

L. Paul Verhage KD4STH
 

Just got a call, EOSS just got back and is having dinner. They had to retrieve their payload from near Lowman on highway 21.

They're all safe and sound. And probably hungry.

We should be getting more info soon.


Re: Recoveries

Mark Conner N9XTN
 

I see some what I think are EOSS vehicles headed back towards Boise on Hwy 21.

73 de Mark N9XTN


On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 8:24 PM Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:
Glad to hear most of them are safely recovered.  Anything from EOSS?  I saw a few vehicles that seemed to be heading that direction.

73 de Mark N9XTN


On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 7:50 PM L. Paul Verhage KD4STH <nearsys@...> wrote:
The second launch site launched 5 balloons and three of them have been recovered. 

The first one broke loose of the parachute and took off without the tracker so we're writing that flight off. 

The last one landed nearing major road south of Boise and it appears to have been picked up by a stranger. This flight reach the 124700 feet and landed far west of the rest of the balloons. However, we were recovering the other balloons first and this one was out in the desert near. major road for several hours before we got there. We have a good bead on its landing site and search the area thoroughly. Since there's no balloon to be found I am assuming that a stranger picked it up.


Callsigns

L. Paul Verhage KD4STH
 

I need the near space tracker Pella and Texas team callsigns. I want to get the flight path data for the balloon launch.

Also, I need an address for Texas, I have your HT.


Re: Recoveries

Mark Conner N9XTN
 

Glad to hear most of them are safely recovered.  Anything from EOSS?  I saw a few vehicles that seemed to be heading that direction.

73 de Mark N9XTN


On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 7:50 PM L. Paul Verhage KD4STH <nearsys@...> wrote:
The second launch site launched 5 balloons and three of them have been recovered. 

The first one broke loose of the parachute and took off without the tracker so we're writing that flight off. 

The last one landed nearing major road south of Boise and it appears to have been picked up by a stranger. This flight reach the 124700 feet and landed far west of the rest of the balloons. However, we were recovering the other balloons first and this one was out in the desert near. major road for several hours before we got there. We have a good bead on its landing site and search the area thoroughly. Since there's no balloon to be found I am assuming that a stranger picked it up.


Recoveries

L. Paul Verhage KD4STH
 

The second launch site launched 5 balloons and three of them have been recovered. 

The first one broke loose of the parachute and took off without the tracker so we're writing that flight off. 

The last one landed nearing major road south of Boise and it appears to have been picked up by a stranger. This flight reach the 124700 feet and landed far west of the rest of the balloons. However, we were recovering the other balloons first and this one was out in the desert near. major road for several hours before we got there. We have a good bead on its landing site and search the area thoroughly. Since there's no balloon to be found I am assuming that a stranger picked it up.


GPSL 2019

Mike, n0mpm
 

Looking forward to host GPSL in Pella,IA.  I promise no mountains!
mike. n0mpm


Re: EOSS airborne at GPSL 2018

Mark Conner N9XTN
 

I saw W5MAW chasing and thought that was you, figuring MAW were your initials.

- Mark

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 2:13 PM Michael <mw@...> wrote:
Family priorities got in the way, I couldn’t make it this year. I’m arm chair watching via APRS.fi while in College Station TX. It’s been a good GPSL - I do wish I was there!

--Michael Willett

On Jun 16, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:

I had one years ago that had an initial ascent rate of 70 ft/min.  Now I overfill.  Gas in the bottle and runway behind you are useless. :)

I assume you're with the crew picking up Pete's balloon?  Let us know when you find it.

- Mark

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 1:57 PM Michael <mw@...> wrote:
They are infringing on my trademark under fill / last one back scenario. 

--Michael Willett

On Jun 16, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:

Yeah.  They might get lucky and land in the valley near Hwy 21, but otherwise it'll be an expedition.

The other balloons appear to have landed or will land in decent spots.

73 de Mark N9XTN

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 12:17 PM Zack Clobes W0ZC <zclobes@...> wrote:
I'm getting a bit worried about EOSS..  That's looking like a rough recovery.

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:07 AM Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:
Current situation.  I had expected EOSS would cut down early, but they haven't and are well into the mountains northeast of Boise.  I think the southern group will land near/northwest of Cleft, which is flat and has farm "roads" for access.

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On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 9:57 AM Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:
There are two launch sites for today's event I believe.  EOSS is launching from Homedale and the rest from near the ID/OR border on US95 southwest of Boise.  

The area around Boise has a relatively narrow "safe" landing zone, and different flight profiles may require different launch sites to avoid landing in largely inaccessible terrain to northeast and southwest.  

73 de Mark N9XTN

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Re: Any updates from the recovery status?

Jerry
 

3 of the 4 balloons from the non-Ross flights have been recovered. Still looking for kd4sth-9. 4 cars in the area but no signal yet.

5th balloon had a flight string failure just below Parachute on launch.

Jerry


On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 2:03 PM, Zack Clobes W0ZC
<zclobes@...> wrote:


Any updates from the recovery status?

Zack Clobes W0ZC
 



Re: EOSS airborne at GPSL 2018

Michael
 

Family priorities got in the way, I couldn’t make it this year. I’m arm chair watching via APRS.fi while in College Station TX. It’s been a good GPSL - I do wish I was there!

--Michael Willett

On Jun 16, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:

I had one years ago that had an initial ascent rate of 70 ft/min.  Now I overfill.  Gas in the bottle and runway behind you are useless. :)

I assume you're with the crew picking up Pete's balloon?  Let us know when you find it.

- Mark

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 1:57 PM Michael <mw@...> wrote:
They are infringing on my trademark under fill / last one back scenario. 

--Michael Willett

On Jun 16, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:

Yeah.  They might get lucky and land in the valley near Hwy 21, but otherwise it'll be an expedition.

The other balloons appear to have landed or will land in decent spots.

73 de Mark N9XTN

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 12:17 PM Zack Clobes W0ZC <zclobes@...> wrote:
I'm getting a bit worried about EOSS..  That's looking like a rough recovery.

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:07 AM Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:
Current situation.  I had expected EOSS would cut down early, but they haven't and are well into the mountains northeast of Boise.  I think the southern group will land near/northwest of Cleft, which is flat and has farm "roads" for access.

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On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 9:57 AM Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:
There are two launch sites for today's event I believe.  EOSS is launching from Homedale and the rest from near the ID/OR border on US95 southwest of Boise.  

The area around Boise has a relatively narrow "safe" landing zone, and different flight profiles may require different launch sites to avoid landing in largely inaccessible terrain to northeast and southwest.  

73 de Mark N9XTN

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Re: EOSS airborne at GPSL 2018

Mark Conner N9XTN
 

I had one years ago that had an initial ascent rate of 70 ft/min.  Now I overfill.  Gas in the bottle and runway behind you are useless. :)

I assume you're with the crew picking up Pete's balloon?  Let us know when you find it.

- Mark

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 1:57 PM Michael <mw@...> wrote:
They are infringing on my trademark under fill / last one back scenario. 

--Michael Willett

On Jun 16, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:

Yeah.  They might get lucky and land in the valley near Hwy 21, but otherwise it'll be an expedition.

The other balloons appear to have landed or will land in decent spots.

73 de Mark N9XTN

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 12:17 PM Zack Clobes W0ZC <zclobes@...> wrote:
I'm getting a bit worried about EOSS..  That's looking like a rough recovery.

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:07 AM Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:
Current situation.  I had expected EOSS would cut down early, but they haven't and are well into the mountains northeast of Boise.  I think the southern group will land near/northwest of Cleft, which is flat and has farm "roads" for access.

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On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 9:57 AM Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:
There are two launch sites for today's event I believe.  EOSS is launching from Homedale and the rest from near the ID/OR border on US95 southwest of Boise.  

The area around Boise has a relatively narrow "safe" landing zone, and different flight profiles may require different launch sites to avoid landing in largely inaccessible terrain to northeast and southwest.  

73 de Mark N9XTN




Re: EOSS airborne at GPSL 2018

Michael
 

They are infringing on my trademark under fill / last one back scenario. 

--Michael Willett

On Jun 16, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:

Yeah.  They might get lucky and land in the valley near Hwy 21, but otherwise it'll be an expedition.

The other balloons appear to have landed or will land in decent spots.

73 de Mark N9XTN

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 12:17 PM Zack Clobes W0ZC <zclobes@...> wrote:
I'm getting a bit worried about EOSS..  That's looking like a rough recovery.

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:07 AM Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:
Current situation.  I had expected EOSS would cut down early, but they haven't and are well into the mountains northeast of Boise.  I think the southern group will land near/northwest of Cleft, which is flat and has farm "roads" for access.

<image.png>


On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 9:57 AM Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:
There are two launch sites for today's event I believe.  EOSS is launching from Homedale and the rest from near the ID/OR border on US95 southwest of Boise.  

The area around Boise has a relatively narrow "safe" landing zone, and different flight profiles may require different launch sites to avoid landing in largely inaccessible terrain to northeast and southwest.  

73 de Mark N9XTN

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Re: EOSS airborne at GPSL 2018

Mark Conner N9XTN
 

Yeah.  They might get lucky and land in the valley near Hwy 21, but otherwise it'll be an expedition.

The other balloons appear to have landed or will land in decent spots.

73 de Mark N9XTN

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 12:17 PM Zack Clobes W0ZC <zclobes@...> wrote:
I'm getting a bit worried about EOSS..  That's looking like a rough recovery.

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:07 AM Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:
Current situation.  I had expected EOSS would cut down early, but they haven't and are well into the mountains northeast of Boise.  I think the southern group will land near/northwest of Cleft, which is flat and has farm "roads" for access.

image.png


On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 9:57 AM Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:
There are two launch sites for today's event I believe.  EOSS is launching from Homedale and the rest from near the ID/OR border on US95 southwest of Boise.  

The area around Boise has a relatively narrow "safe" landing zone, and different flight profiles may require different launch sites to avoid landing in largely inaccessible terrain to northeast and southwest.  

73 de Mark N9XTN

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Re: EOSS airborne at GPSL 2018

Zack Clobes W0ZC
 

I'm getting a bit worried about EOSS..  That's looking like a rough recovery.


On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:07 AM Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:
Current situation.  I had expected EOSS would cut down early, but they haven't and are well into the mountains northeast of Boise.  I think the southern group will land near/northwest of Cleft, which is flat and has farm "roads" for access.

image.png


On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 9:57 AM Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:
There are two launch sites for today's event I believe.  EOSS is launching from Homedale and the rest from near the ID/OR border on US95 southwest of Boise.  

The area around Boise has a relatively narrow "safe" landing zone, and different flight profiles may require different launch sites to avoid landing in largely inaccessible terrain to northeast and southwest.  

73 de Mark N9XTN

image.png


Re: EOSS airborne at GPSL 2018

Mark Conner N9XTN
 

Current situation.  I had expected EOSS would cut down early, but they haven't and are well into the mountains northeast of Boise.  I think the southern group will land near/northwest of Cleft, which is flat and has farm "roads" for access.

image.png


On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 9:57 AM Mark Conner N9XTN <mconner1@...> wrote:
There are two launch sites for today's event I believe.  EOSS is launching from Homedale and the rest from near the ID/OR border on US95 southwest of Boise.  

The area around Boise has a relatively narrow "safe" landing zone, and different flight profiles may require different launch sites to avoid landing in largely inaccessible terrain to northeast and southwest.  

73 de Mark N9XTN

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EOSS airborne at GPSL 2018

Mark Conner N9XTN
 

There are two launch sites for today's event I believe.  EOSS is launching from Homedale and the rest from near the ID/OR border on US95 southwest of Boise.  

The area around Boise has a relatively narrow "safe" landing zone, and different flight profiles may require different launch sites to avoid landing in largely inaccessible terrain to northeast and southwest.  

73 de Mark N9XTN

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