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Re: Launch Site

Don Pfister <ka0jlf@...>
 

I had asked you that several emails ago. HOWEVER, I think I sent them to you not
the list. It will take me a couple hours to drive out there. What time did you
have in mind?

pverhage1960 wrote:

Great! Don, when do you want to meet me in Manhattan. And where?
Paul

Yes we can lock up the helium tanks at the airport.

pverhage1960 wrote:

If anyone needs to send email to me, do it through the GPSL group.
I
don't have access to my campus email.

Paul
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Re: Arrival

Don Pfister <ka0jlf@...>
 

Hi Harry, if you hear KD5SFW in Tulsa tell her "her dad says HI". I'm not sure
how active she is but she just got her license back in May. I think she has only
talked to her mom and I.

I look forward to meeting you.

73 de Don KA0JLF
HABITAT SkyLab

Harry M wrote:

Hi all!
This is Harry in Tulsa.
We will be arriving from Tulsa Friday, hopefully in time for lunch, and plan
on attending the dinner also. We will be staying at the Super-8 in
Manhattan. We would like to get involved with one of the crews so if anyone
needs some extra help we will be available to do whatever needs done.

Harry Mueller - KC5TRB
and
Dave Smith - KD5OIJ


Re: ANSR participation at GPSL

Don Pfister <ka0jlf@...>
 

Michael, I would suggest you bring your stuff. I have at least 5 members coming
with my group. I think we will be ok. Our members can assist you. "Never give
up! - Never surrender!" (I love that movie).

73 de Don
HABITAT SkyLab

Mark Conner wrote:

Received the following from ANSR:

==============
Mark,

Since I will be the only ANSR guy attending, I don't think I can
launch a balloon by myself. I will bring our Payload Computer
(cross band repeater/tracking system) and Micro Beacon in case we
want to fly them on another balloon train. I'll also have equipment
to track and recover if necessary. If nothing else, I can help with
the launch on Saturday morning.

Michael Gray, ANSR - kd7lmo

===============

See www.ansr.org - does any group have weight to spare and interested
in flying one of the ANSR payloads?

73 de Mark N9XTN

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Direction finding?

Michael L. Bogard <kd0fw@...>
 

I will be launching a balloon and tracking it the old way no APRS. If there is anyone that would like to help me chase it please let me know. Thanks Mike KD0FW


Re: ANSR participation at GPSL

Don Pfister <ka0jlf@...>
 

I just talked to Paul on the cell phones. Michael, Paul said the same thing I
did - there will be plenty of people to help, please bring your balloon and
launch with us. Michael, please don't put off launching because you are the only
one from your group. I know we can round up help for you. If you want a
navigator or driver to help you chase I'm sure we can handle that too.

Paul also said we will launch from Herington. He and I will take the helium
tanks there tomorrow and lock them in the hanger.

Mark, Paul tried to contact you but I forget what he wanted me to tell you. ;-)
Senior life is great! (I think it was the above)

Paul will check email tomorrow after we pickup (possibly) deliver the helium.

More to follow! ;-)

73 all de Don


Mark Conner wrote:

Received the following from ANSR:

==============
Mark,

Since I will be the only ANSR guy attending, I don't think I can
launch a balloon by myself. I will bring our Payload Computer
(cross band repeater/tracking system) and Micro Beacon in case we
want to fly them on another balloon train. I'll also have equipment
to track and recover if necessary. If nothing else, I can help with
the launch on Saturday morning.

Michael Gray, ANSR - kd7lmo

===============

See www.ansr.org - does any group have weight to spare and interested
in flying one of the ANSR payloads?

73 de Mark N9XTN
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Herington airport will be the launch site

Mark Conner <n9xtn@...>
 

Spoke with Don and Paul this evening. Herington airport will
definitely be the launch site for Saturday.

Paul also wanted me to make sure everyone knows that you *will*
need a free one-day permit to park in the lot marked on Ralph's
web page. For those of you who haven't been on a college campus
in a while, be assured that they will very likely check for
permits. You can get one at the info kiosk after 8am on Friday.

For EOSS and ANSR: Please bring all your stuff! We should have
enough hands to get all 8 airborne, and should have enough
chasers to get everyone recovered. We should have plenty of fill
devices for the balloons, and we can launch in two groups if
necessary.

Since we're not launching at the JNSC, Paul is looking at moving
the dinner earlier to 6pm. We'll probably have a final session
at the library to finalize our frequencies and payload manifests.

The PC at the library has PowerPoint on it, and the DVD-ROM in it
should read CDs. The VCR also switches through the LCD projector
as well as the PC. Nice comfy chairs, and tables at the back of
the room for exhibiting payloads if you want.

73 de Mark N9XTN


Re: AV Equipment for GPSL

Bill Brown
 

I have some slides I'd like to show if possible....is there a Carousel style
slide projector available at the university or could someone bring one?

Also, since I've been working 80 hour weeks with no end in sight....I might
not make it until after noon on the 5th, so please schedule me in the
afternoon for my talk.

See you all soon,

- Bill WB8ELK


ANSR Launch

kd7lmo <mgray@...>
 

ANSR has decided not to launch our payloads at the GPSL. After
conferring with other ANSR members, we decided it would be best not
to launch. The ANSR-8 flight is only a couple weeks away and it
wouldn't give us enough time to prepare for that flight if something
went wrong at GPSL. We all know how Mr. Murphy likes to visit.

However, we will still make our presentation at the conference as
well as display our payload packages. I will also attend the launch
to help in any way I can.

I am certain ANSR will be able to fly on a future GPSL.

73s de Michael Gray, KD7LMO


Kansas repeaters

Larry Cerney <lcerney@...>
 

Hello all;

I've put together a list of the repeaters along I-70 West of Manhattan, KS.
I'm getting ready to program in the freqs to flip through on the way out and
back. Thought it might be of some interest to others.

Question to our friends in Kansas, the 2000 ARRL repeater directory shows
the Manhattan MAARS repeater to be 147.250 + and some of the emails have
shown 147.255 +. What is the repeater freq?

Kansas Repeaters
West to East
Goodland 147.030 + WA0GBN Open
Colby 146.820 - W0WOB Open Wide
Colby 444.650 + W0WOB Open
WaKeeney 444.770 + N0FBS Open
Hays 146.790 - N0IGX Open
Hays 147.180 + KB0RZA Open Wide
Hays 443.600 + KD5WY Open Wide 107.2 PL
Russell 147.280 + KB0QGX Open Wide
Russell 444.950 N0KOU Open Wide Input 448.950
Salina 145.430 - N0KSC Open Wide
Salina 146.730 - N0KSC Open Wide
Salina 146.910 - K0KSC Open
Salina 147.030 + W0CY Open Wide
Salina 442.200 + N0KSC Open
Salina 443.900 + W0CY Open
Salina 444.500 + N0SGL Open Wide
Abilene 145.330 - NU0S Open Wide
Junction City 146.880 - N0UZT Open Wide
Junction City 147.300 + W0CWJ Open
Junction City 442.050 + KF0HS Open
Manhattan 145.410 - W0QQQ Open
Manhattan 147.250 + N0TOK Open Wide
Manhattan 444.170 + W0QQQ Open

Thanks...
73....
Larry
K0ANI

"The ideas that have lighted my way, and time after time have given me new
courage to face life cheerfully, have been Kindness, Beauty and Truth."

Albert Einstein


Re: Kansas repeaters

Mark Conner <n9xtn@...>
 

The MAARS web site and the majority of the Google references show
147.255+ as the repeater frequency.

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/1173/repeater.html

Don and Paul can give us a coverage report tomorrow.

Thanks for researching the list. On your way east, can you try
out Herington 147.135+ (maybe 88.5 Hz tone)? If you can hit it
from I-70 it should be good for the chase.

- Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Cerney" <lcerney@mindspring.com>
To: <EOSS@yahoogroups.com>; <GPSL@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 22:30
Subject: [GPSL] Kansas repeaters


Hello all;

I've put together a list of the repeaters along I-70 West of
Manhattan, KS.
I'm getting ready to program in the freqs to flip through on
the way out and
back. Thought it might be of some interest to others.

Question to our friends in Kansas, the 2000 ARRL repeater
directory shows
the Manhattan MAARS repeater to be 147.250 + and some of the
emails have
shown 147.255 +. What is the repeater freq?


Re: Kansas repeaters

Don Pfister <ka0jlf@...>
 

Will do.

Mark Conner wrote:

The MAARS web site and the majority of the Google references show
147.255+ as the repeater frequency.

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/1173/repeater.html

Don and Paul can give us a coverage report tomorrow.

Thanks for researching the list. On your way east, can you try
out Herington 147.135+ (maybe 88.5 Hz tone)? If you can hit it
from I-70 it should be good for the chase.

- Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Cerney" <lcerney@mindspring.com>
To: <EOSS@yahoogroups.com>; <GPSL@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 22:30
Subject: [GPSL] Kansas repeaters

Hello all;

I've put together a list of the repeaters along I-70 West of
Manhattan, KS.
I'm getting ready to program in the freqs to flip through on
the way out and
back. Thought it might be of some interest to others.

Question to our friends in Kansas, the 2000 ARRL repeater
directory shows
the Manhattan MAARS repeater to be 147.250 + and some of the
emails have
shown 147.255 +. What is the repeater freq?


Forecast update, 2 Jul #2

Mark Conner <n9xtn@...>
 

The Eta and AVN now cover the launch time. Unfortunately, the
Eta indicates a more unidirectional wind profile and a bit
stronger one.

For a 95,000 ft burst, the landing is 352 degrees at 19 miles.
This is not far where US77 crosses the Kansas River and is only a
mile or two south of Junction City. For a 75,000 ft burst, the
landing is at 014 degrees at 20 miles, which is comfortably south
of I-70.

If this continues, I plan to switch NSTAR to a 600 or a 350g
balloon (have one each of 800, 600, and 350) to get a lower burst
altitude and move the landing east, and really gassing the
balloon up to shorten the trip.

The AVN model, on the other hand, is more consistent with the
previous MRF predictions (297 at 9 miles for 95kft and 355 at 5
miles for 75 kft). It should be consistent, however, as it has
the same physics.

In my experience, the Eta is better at the lower levels and the
AVN is better higher up. What I did was come up with a hybrid
wind profile using the Eta below 20,000 ft, the AVN from 20 to 60
kft, and the latest Topeka sounding data above 60 kft. Doing
this gave landings to the NNW and NNE at 10-12 miles in both
cases.

Still time for things to change. The wind profile I used is
below.

- Mark

1237,156,6
1240,161,7
1988,194,23
2766,206,26
3556,206,25
4364,206,23
5190,207,21
6030,207,21
6893,206,21
7776,206,19
8678,206,17
9606,195,11
10561,174,11
12552,194,17
14685,207,17
16962,215,17
19419,220,15
25066,186,7
31962,266,6
36106,292,9
40945,300,9
46834,337,7
54800,60,7
60311,81,11
61712,95,10
62910,92,10
63533,91,11
65200,87,11
67404,83,12
68602,80,12
70328,78,16
76597,90,17
79199,90,18
84812,77,17
87795,85,17
92611,64,17
94025,62,19
97178,66,23
100885,72,27
103018,75,29
105367,75,29
109501,75,29


Re: Kansas repeaters

Don Pfister <ka0jlf@...>
 

Paul, if you check email, I'm on my way. I'll try to monitor this repeater in
Manhattan (147.255+) and call you on it. Knowing you and radio I will expect to
call you on your cell phone. ;-) I should see you at the designated spot around
9 a.m.

73 de Don in route.

Mark, I'll take my new repeater directory and see how the list checks out. I
hope to run mobile APRS.

Don Pfister wrote:

Will do.

Mark Conner wrote:

The MAARS web site and the majority of the Google references show
147.255+ as the repeater frequency.

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/1173/repeater.html

Don and Paul can give us a coverage report tomorrow.

Thanks for researching the list. On your way east, can you try
out Herington 147.135+ (maybe 88.5 Hz tone)? If you can hit it
from I-70 it should be good for the chase.

- Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Cerney" <lcerney@mindspring.com>
To: <EOSS@yahoogroups.com>; <GPSL@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 22:30
Subject: [GPSL] Kansas repeaters

Hello all;

I've put together a list of the repeaters along I-70 West of
Manhattan, KS.
I'm getting ready to program in the freqs to flip through on
the way out and
back. Thought it might be of some interest to others.

Question to our friends in Kansas, the 2000 ARRL repeater
directory shows
the Manhattan MAARS repeater to be 147.250 + and some of the
emails have
shown 147.255 +. What is the repeater freq?
--

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HABITAT SkyLab soon to add SeaLab (underwater robotics)
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Email=ka0jlf@earthlink.net or ka0jlf@kc.rr.com or donp@netlab.org

http://habitat.netlab.org
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http://home.kc.rr.com/cdpfister/
http://www.netlab.org:8888/ Visit the Lab in the Hobby wing. HABITAT being
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view stations on the web real time (~3 minute updates):
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KA0JLF Home
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KA0JLF-9 van
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Fw: SF Gate: Up, up and away/A man and his lawn chair take flight

Mark Conner <n9xtn@...>
 

Here's our featured speaker for next year's GPSL!

73 de Mark N9XTN

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Wednesday, July 3, 2002 (SF Chronicle)
Up, up and away/A man and his lawn chair take flight
Steve Rubenstein, Chronicle Staff Writer


San Francisco -- Something important was proved Tuesday in San
Francisco when a young man strapped himself into a lawn chair
tied to a strand of flimsy balloons and floated 50 feet above
Potrero Hill.
It was not a stunt, said the man in the chair. It was a
scientific experiment.
No one knew exactly what was proved, however. Perhaps it was
that latex can burst under pressure, a concept already well known
in San Francisco.
The idea, if there was one, was to recreate the 1982 flight of
"Lawn Chair Larry" Walters, the Los Angeles truck driver who flew
a similar rig 16,000
feet into the sky above Southern California and lived to tell
about it. An Australian TV company had commissioned the joyride
for an upcoming special
on urban legends.
"Nothing can go wrong," said stuntman Adam Savage, preparing
to go aloft, while a large number of things that could not go
wrong kept going wrong.
The latex balloons, purchased for $10 apiece from a surplus
store, had an unsettling knack of bursting during inflation. At
least six of them popped
before Savage had even taken his place in the chair.
Then the balloons turned out to need twice as much helium to
fill as Savage originally calculated, and extra gas cylinders had
to be scrounged.
Then, with only minutes before lift-off, the batteries on the
emergency walkie-talkies went out.
"I need some triple-A batteries!" the balloonist yelled.
"Somebody go check the deli! Maybe they have some!"
Meanwhile, more balloons popped.
"It's not making me nervous," Savage said, nervously, as the
latex shards drifted to earth. "I suppose these balloons have
outlived their shelf
life. That's why they were only $10 each."
After a quick review of the flight plan with the TV producer
("You go up, then you come down"), Savage climbed into the lawn
chair ($29 from Sears),
strapped on his safety harness (borrowed from a Mission District
climbing gym) and gazed up at his towering string of balloons,
which resembled a
strand of giant Vidalia onions glistening in the morning sun.
Shortly before 9 a.m., helpers began removing sandbags and
releasing their hold on three ropes tethering the chair to parked
cars. Savage, not quite sure how to control the proceedings,
began to rise slowly into the sky and drift gently over Missouri
Street, like the Wizard of Oz making his
getaway.
The TV crew said Savage had soared to a height of 100 feet,
but less partial observers placed the altitude at about half
that. The walkie-talkie failure was never a factor, as
air-to-ground communication was conducted largely by shouting.
The greatest humiliation occurred midway into the flight, when
Savage downed a beer and, after warning observers below to stand
clear, dropped the bottle over the side. The bottle failed to
break on impact, clearly indicating to all the
less-than-life-threatening height of Savage's lawn chair.
"Better have another beer!" someone yelled.
Meanwhile, a modest crowd of gawkers gathered on Missouri
Street to take in the spectacle, such as it was. Dogs barked,
drivers honked and
passers-by giggled.
After 12 minutes aloft, the TV cameraman had recorded
sufficient footage, and there was no good reason for the flight
to continue. One by one,
Savage fired a BB gun at the balloons and the chair descended, as
Sir Isaac predicted it would.
Back on the ground, Savage reached for a celebratory cigar and
basked in what accolades there were. He said it had been eerie to
ride his lawn
chair on the same day that balloonist Steve Fosset completed his
round-the-world solo flight, although that comparison seemed more
of a
stretch than anything that happened to the latex.
"I'm just glad it turned out OK," said Ed Wallace, manager of
the electrical warehouse next door whose airspace Savage had
drifted into. "It
didn't make any sense at all. He said he had the whole thing
worked out perfectly, but it didn't look that way. The potential
for him getting hurt
was pretty good."

E-mail Steve Rubenstein at srubenstein@sfchronicle.com.
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Forecast update, 3 Jul

Mark Conner <n9xtn@...>
 

The two model solutions (Eta and AVN) are coming closer together,
and are showing less risk of getting close to Junction City.

AVN - 95kft burst = 323 deg at 10 miles
AVN - 75kft burst = 020 deg at 10 miles
Eta - 95 kft burst = 325 deg at 15 miles
Eta - 75kft burst = 005 deg at 13 miles

All are favorable landing sites.

Weather for Saturday looks decent but hot. Temps at sunrise will
be in the low 70s, and probably will reach the low 90s by
afternoon. Dew points will be in the 60s, making it humid.
While we shouldn't have the x-country hikes our Western brethern
do, bringing some drinks is still recommended. Skies should be
relatively clear at the start of the day, but cumulus clouds
should form after mid-morning.

The Herington repeater is down for maintenance at the moment,
however, the owner (WV0S) expects to have it back on the air
Thursday or Friday. I'll get an update when it's back on line.

Is there anyone who can bring a video camera to tape the
symposium and launch?

Graphics will be posted soon to
http://members.cox.net/n9xtn/gpsl-2002-forecast.gif. SA9 file at
http://members.cox.net/n9xtn/gpsl-2002-forecast.sa9 .

73 de Mark N9XTN


Wind data for 3 Jul 1200Z Eta

Mark Conner <n9xtn@...>
 

981,144,6
2005,190,21
2782,193,21
3573,193,19
4380,192,17
5207,191,13
6050,190,11
6913,191,11
7795,189,9
8701,180,9
9626,168,9
10584,169,11
12572,182,15
14692,185,9
16975,205,13
19439,215,15
22110,209,15
25033,201,13
28268,213,11
31893,254,7
36020,272,7
40833,249,9
46732,262,3
54829,55,7
65419,75,18
68471,110,25
71620,113,22
77122,50,12
79101,55,19
83746,82,27
85574,93,30
87598,95,31
89835,95,25
92375,74,22
95308,82,21
102755,85,26
110793,100,43
111459,100,43


Helium Transportation

pverhage1960 <paul.verhage@...>
 

Don and I dropped off the 9 helium tanks at the airport. The total
cost for the truck and gas was $100. Needless to say, we need people
with cars to help us haul the tanks out of there on Monday. If we get
two or three cars, with each one carrying two tanks, we can haul them
out in two trips for less than $100.

Paul


Dinner on Thursday

pverhage1960 <paul.verhage@...>
 

I'll be in town on Thursday. Can I get a list of people who expect to
be here on Thursday and may want to go to dinner? I'll recommend a
Chinese/American buffet on the sourthwest side of town.

Paul


Send email please

pverhage1960 <paul.verhage@...>
 

I can send messages to the group, but I can't send email outside the
group.

Can someone please send email to kc0dw@cox.net and let him know what's
happening as far as our changes? My HT wasn't hitting the repeater
very well last night, so he couldn't understand everything I was
saying. Once you email him, please let the group know.

Paul


Media

pverhage1960 <paul.verhage@...>
 

I don't know about the slide carosel yet, can someone bring one?

I've faxed WDAF in KC and WIBW in Topeka. I let materials with the
Manhattan Mercury and talked to the Herington Times by phone.

If you know some other media to call, please do so. I'll update WIBW
as to the Herington launch.

Paul

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