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Re: Launch Site
Don Pfister <ka0jlf@...>
I had asked you that several emails ago. HOWEVER, I think I sent them to you not
the list. It will take me a couple hours to drive out there. What time did you have in mind? pverhage1960 wrote: Great! Don, when do you want to meet me in Manhattan. And where?-- [Signature File] Name=Don Pfister KA0JLF HABITAT SkyLab soon to add SeaLab (underwater robotics) (High Altitude Basic Investigation Testing And Tracking) Email=ka0jlf@earthlink.net or ka0jlf@kc.rr.com or donp@netlab.org http://habitat.netlab.org http://www.kc.net/~dpfister - going away not sure when they will pull the plug http://www.netlab.org/~donp http://home.earthlink.net/~ka0jlf http://home.kc.rr.com/cdpfister/ http://www.netlab.org:8888/ Visit the Lab in the Hobby wing. HABITAT being built... view stations on the web real time (~3 minute updates): http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KA0JLF Home http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KA0JLF-9 van http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KA0JLF-11 balloon
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Re: Arrival
Don Pfister <ka0jlf@...>
Hi Harry, if you hear KD5SFW in Tulsa tell her "her dad says HI". I'm not sure
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how active she is but she just got her license back in May. I think she has only talked to her mom and I. I look forward to meeting you. 73 de Don KA0JLF HABITAT SkyLab Harry M wrote:
Hi all!
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Re: ANSR participation at GPSL
Don Pfister <ka0jlf@...>
Michael, I would suggest you bring your stuff. I have at least 5 members coming
with my group. I think we will be ok. Our members can assist you. "Never give up! - Never surrender!" (I love that movie). 73 de Don HABITAT SkyLab Mark Conner wrote: Received the following from ANSR:-- [Signature File] Name=Don Pfister KA0JLF HABITAT SkyLab soon to add SeaLab (underwater robotics) (High Altitude Basic Investigation Testing And Tracking) Email=ka0jlf@earthlink.net or ka0jlf@kc.rr.com or donp@netlab.org http://habitat.netlab.org http://www.kc.net/~dpfister - going away not sure when they will pull the plug http://www.netlab.org/~donp http://home.earthlink.net/~ka0jlf http://home.kc.rr.com/cdpfister/ http://www.netlab.org:8888/ Visit the Lab in the Hobby wing. HABITAT being built... view stations on the web real time (~3 minute updates): http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KA0JLF Home http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KA0JLF-9 van http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KA0JLF-11 balloon
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Direction finding?
Michael L. Bogard <kd0fw@...>
I will be launching a balloon and tracking it the old way
no APRS. If there is anyone that would like to help me chase it please let me
know. Thanks Mike KD0FW
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Re: ANSR participation at GPSL
Don Pfister <ka0jlf@...>
I just talked to Paul on the cell phones. Michael, Paul said the same thing I
did - there will be plenty of people to help, please bring your balloon and launch with us. Michael, please don't put off launching because you are the only one from your group. I know we can round up help for you. If you want a navigator or driver to help you chase I'm sure we can handle that too. Paul also said we will launch from Herington. He and I will take the helium tanks there tomorrow and lock them in the hanger. Mark, Paul tried to contact you but I forget what he wanted me to tell you. ;-) Senior life is great! (I think it was the above) Paul will check email tomorrow after we pickup (possibly) deliver the helium. More to follow! ;-) 73 all de Don Mark Conner wrote: Received the following from ANSR:-- [Signature File] Name=Don Pfister KA0JLF HABITAT SkyLab soon to add SeaLab (underwater robotics) (High Altitude Basic Investigation Testing And Tracking) Email=ka0jlf@earthlink.net or ka0jlf@kc.rr.com or donp@netlab.org http://habitat.netlab.org http://www.kc.net/~dpfister - going away not sure when they will pull the plug http://www.netlab.org/~donp http://home.earthlink.net/~ka0jlf http://home.kc.rr.com/cdpfister/ http://www.netlab.org:8888/ Visit the Lab in the Hobby wing. HABITAT being built... view stations on the web real time (~3 minute updates): http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KA0JLF Home http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KA0JLF-9 van http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KA0JLF-11 balloon
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Herington airport will be the launch site
Mark Conner <n9xtn@...>
Spoke with Don and Paul this evening. Herington airport will
definitely be the launch site for Saturday. Paul also wanted me to make sure everyone knows that you *will* need a free one-day permit to park in the lot marked on Ralph's web page. For those of you who haven't been on a college campus in a while, be assured that they will very likely check for permits. You can get one at the info kiosk after 8am on Friday. For EOSS and ANSR: Please bring all your stuff! We should have enough hands to get all 8 airborne, and should have enough chasers to get everyone recovered. We should have plenty of fill devices for the balloons, and we can launch in two groups if necessary. Since we're not launching at the JNSC, Paul is looking at moving the dinner earlier to 6pm. We'll probably have a final session at the library to finalize our frequencies and payload manifests. The PC at the library has PowerPoint on it, and the DVD-ROM in it should read CDs. The VCR also switches through the LCD projector as well as the PC. Nice comfy chairs, and tables at the back of the room for exhibiting payloads if you want. 73 de Mark N9XTN
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Re: AV Equipment for GPSL
Bill Brown
I have some slides I'd like to show if possible....is there a Carousel style
slide projector available at the university or could someone bring one? Also, since I've been working 80 hour weeks with no end in sight....I might not make it until after noon on the 5th, so please schedule me in the afternoon for my talk. See you all soon, - Bill WB8ELK
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ANSR Launch
kd7lmo <mgray@...>
ANSR has decided not to launch our payloads at the GPSL. After
conferring with other ANSR members, we decided it would be best not to launch. The ANSR-8 flight is only a couple weeks away and it wouldn't give us enough time to prepare for that flight if something went wrong at GPSL. We all know how Mr. Murphy likes to visit. However, we will still make our presentation at the conference as well as display our payload packages. I will also attend the launch to help in any way I can. I am certain ANSR will be able to fly on a future GPSL. 73s de Michael Gray, KD7LMO
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Kansas repeaters
Larry Cerney <lcerney@...>
Hello all;
I've put together a list of the repeaters along I-70 West of Manhattan, KS. I'm getting ready to program in the freqs to flip through on the way out and back. Thought it might be of some interest to others. Question to our friends in Kansas, the 2000 ARRL repeater directory shows the Manhattan MAARS repeater to be 147.250 + and some of the emails have shown 147.255 +. What is the repeater freq? Kansas Repeaters West to East Goodland 147.030 + WA0GBN Open Colby 146.820 - W0WOB Open Wide Colby 444.650 + W0WOB Open WaKeeney 444.770 + N0FBS Open Hays 146.790 - N0IGX Open Hays 147.180 + KB0RZA Open Wide Hays 443.600 + KD5WY Open Wide 107.2 PL Russell 147.280 + KB0QGX Open Wide Russell 444.950 N0KOU Open Wide Input 448.950 Salina 145.430 - N0KSC Open Wide Salina 146.730 - N0KSC Open Wide Salina 146.910 - K0KSC Open Salina 147.030 + W0CY Open Wide Salina 442.200 + N0KSC Open Salina 443.900 + W0CY Open Salina 444.500 + N0SGL Open Wide Abilene 145.330 - NU0S Open Wide Junction City 146.880 - N0UZT Open Wide Junction City 147.300 + W0CWJ Open Junction City 442.050 + KF0HS Open Manhattan 145.410 - W0QQQ Open Manhattan 147.250 + N0TOK Open Wide Manhattan 444.170 + W0QQQ Open Thanks... 73.... Larry K0ANI "The ideas that have lighted my way, and time after time have given me new courage to face life cheerfully, have been Kindness, Beauty and Truth." Albert Einstein
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Re: Kansas repeaters
Mark Conner <n9xtn@...>
The MAARS web site and the majority of the Google references show
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147.255+ as the repeater frequency. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/1173/repeater.html Don and Paul can give us a coverage report tomorrow. Thanks for researching the list. On your way east, can you try out Herington 147.135+ (maybe 88.5 Hz tone)? If you can hit it from I-70 it should be good for the chase. - Mark
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From: "Larry Cerney" <lcerney@mindspring.com> To: <EOSS@yahoogroups.com>; <GPSL@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 22:30 Subject: [GPSL] Kansas repeaters Hello all;Manhattan, KS. I'm getting ready to program in the freqs to flip through onthe way out and back. Thought it might be of some interest to others.directory shows the Manhattan MAARS repeater to be 147.250 + and some of theemails have shown 147.255 +. What is the repeater freq?
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Re: Kansas repeaters
Don Pfister <ka0jlf@...>
Will do.
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Mark Conner wrote:
The MAARS web site and the majority of the Google references show
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Forecast update, 2 Jul #2
Mark Conner <n9xtn@...>
The Eta and AVN now cover the launch time. Unfortunately, the
Eta indicates a more unidirectional wind profile and a bit stronger one. For a 95,000 ft burst, the landing is 352 degrees at 19 miles. This is not far where US77 crosses the Kansas River and is only a mile or two south of Junction City. For a 75,000 ft burst, the landing is at 014 degrees at 20 miles, which is comfortably south of I-70. If this continues, I plan to switch NSTAR to a 600 or a 350g balloon (have one each of 800, 600, and 350) to get a lower burst altitude and move the landing east, and really gassing the balloon up to shorten the trip. The AVN model, on the other hand, is more consistent with the previous MRF predictions (297 at 9 miles for 95kft and 355 at 5 miles for 75 kft). It should be consistent, however, as it has the same physics. In my experience, the Eta is better at the lower levels and the AVN is better higher up. What I did was come up with a hybrid wind profile using the Eta below 20,000 ft, the AVN from 20 to 60 kft, and the latest Topeka sounding data above 60 kft. Doing this gave landings to the NNW and NNE at 10-12 miles in both cases. Still time for things to change. The wind profile I used is below. - Mark 1237,156,6 1240,161,7 1988,194,23 2766,206,26 3556,206,25 4364,206,23 5190,207,21 6030,207,21 6893,206,21 7776,206,19 8678,206,17 9606,195,11 10561,174,11 12552,194,17 14685,207,17 16962,215,17 19419,220,15 25066,186,7 31962,266,6 36106,292,9 40945,300,9 46834,337,7 54800,60,7 60311,81,11 61712,95,10 62910,92,10 63533,91,11 65200,87,11 67404,83,12 68602,80,12 70328,78,16 76597,90,17 79199,90,18 84812,77,17 87795,85,17 92611,64,17 94025,62,19 97178,66,23 100885,72,27 103018,75,29 105367,75,29 109501,75,29
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Re: Kansas repeaters
Don Pfister <ka0jlf@...>
Paul, if you check email, I'm on my way. I'll try to monitor this repeater in
Manhattan (147.255+) and call you on it. Knowing you and radio I will expect to call you on your cell phone. ;-) I should see you at the designated spot around 9 a.m. 73 de Don in route. Mark, I'll take my new repeater directory and see how the list checks out. I hope to run mobile APRS. Don Pfister wrote: Will do.-- [Signature File] Name=Don Pfister KA0JLF HABITAT SkyLab soon to add SeaLab (underwater robotics) (High Altitude Basic Investigation Testing And Tracking) Email=ka0jlf@earthlink.net or ka0jlf@kc.rr.com or donp@netlab.org http://habitat.netlab.org http://www.kc.net/~dpfister - going away not sure when they will pull the plug http://www.netlab.org/~donp http://home.earthlink.net/~ka0jlf http://home.kc.rr.com/cdpfister/ http://www.netlab.org:8888/ Visit the Lab in the Hobby wing. HABITAT being built... view stations on the web real time (~3 minute updates): http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KA0JLF Home http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KA0JLF-9 van http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KA0JLF-11 balloon
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Fw: SF Gate: Up, up and away/A man and his lawn chair take flight
Mark Conner <n9xtn@...>
Here's our featured speaker for next year's GPSL!
73 de Mark N9XTN ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- This article was sent to you by someone who found it on SF Gate. The original article can be found on SFGate.com here: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2002/07/03/BA 150175.DTL ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Wednesday, July 3, 2002 (SF Chronicle) Up, up and away/A man and his lawn chair take flight Steve Rubenstein, Chronicle Staff Writer San Francisco -- Something important was proved Tuesday in San Francisco when a young man strapped himself into a lawn chair tied to a strand of flimsy balloons and floated 50 feet above Potrero Hill. It was not a stunt, said the man in the chair. It was a scientific experiment. No one knew exactly what was proved, however. Perhaps it was that latex can burst under pressure, a concept already well known in San Francisco. The idea, if there was one, was to recreate the 1982 flight of "Lawn Chair Larry" Walters, the Los Angeles truck driver who flew a similar rig 16,000 feet into the sky above Southern California and lived to tell about it. An Australian TV company had commissioned the joyride for an upcoming special on urban legends. "Nothing can go wrong," said stuntman Adam Savage, preparing to go aloft, while a large number of things that could not go wrong kept going wrong. The latex balloons, purchased for $10 apiece from a surplus store, had an unsettling knack of bursting during inflation. At least six of them popped before Savage had even taken his place in the chair. Then the balloons turned out to need twice as much helium to fill as Savage originally calculated, and extra gas cylinders had to be scrounged. Then, with only minutes before lift-off, the batteries on the emergency walkie-talkies went out. "I need some triple-A batteries!" the balloonist yelled. "Somebody go check the deli! Maybe they have some!" Meanwhile, more balloons popped. "It's not making me nervous," Savage said, nervously, as the latex shards drifted to earth. "I suppose these balloons have outlived their shelf life. That's why they were only $10 each." After a quick review of the flight plan with the TV producer ("You go up, then you come down"), Savage climbed into the lawn chair ($29 from Sears), strapped on his safety harness (borrowed from a Mission District climbing gym) and gazed up at his towering string of balloons, which resembled a strand of giant Vidalia onions glistening in the morning sun. Shortly before 9 a.m., helpers began removing sandbags and releasing their hold on three ropes tethering the chair to parked cars. Savage, not quite sure how to control the proceedings, began to rise slowly into the sky and drift gently over Missouri Street, like the Wizard of Oz making his getaway. The TV crew said Savage had soared to a height of 100 feet, but less partial observers placed the altitude at about half that. The walkie-talkie failure was never a factor, as air-to-ground communication was conducted largely by shouting. The greatest humiliation occurred midway into the flight, when Savage downed a beer and, after warning observers below to stand clear, dropped the bottle over the side. The bottle failed to break on impact, clearly indicating to all the less-than-life-threatening height of Savage's lawn chair. "Better have another beer!" someone yelled. Meanwhile, a modest crowd of gawkers gathered on Missouri Street to take in the spectacle, such as it was. Dogs barked, drivers honked and passers-by giggled. After 12 minutes aloft, the TV cameraman had recorded sufficient footage, and there was no good reason for the flight to continue. One by one, Savage fired a BB gun at the balloons and the chair descended, as Sir Isaac predicted it would. Back on the ground, Savage reached for a celebratory cigar and basked in what accolades there were. He said it had been eerie to ride his lawn chair on the same day that balloonist Steve Fosset completed his round-the-world solo flight, although that comparison seemed more of a stretch than anything that happened to the latex. "I'm just glad it turned out OK," said Ed Wallace, manager of the electrical warehouse next door whose airspace Savage had drifted into. "It didn't make any sense at all. He said he had the whole thing worked out perfectly, but it didn't look that way. The potential for him getting hurt was pretty good." E-mail Steve Rubenstein at srubenstein@sfchronicle.com. ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Copyright 2002 SF Chronicle
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Forecast update, 3 Jul
Mark Conner <n9xtn@...>
The two model solutions (Eta and AVN) are coming closer together,
and are showing less risk of getting close to Junction City. AVN - 95kft burst = 323 deg at 10 miles AVN - 75kft burst = 020 deg at 10 miles Eta - 95 kft burst = 325 deg at 15 miles Eta - 75kft burst = 005 deg at 13 miles All are favorable landing sites. Weather for Saturday looks decent but hot. Temps at sunrise will be in the low 70s, and probably will reach the low 90s by afternoon. Dew points will be in the 60s, making it humid. While we shouldn't have the x-country hikes our Western brethern do, bringing some drinks is still recommended. Skies should be relatively clear at the start of the day, but cumulus clouds should form after mid-morning. The Herington repeater is down for maintenance at the moment, however, the owner (WV0S) expects to have it back on the air Thursday or Friday. I'll get an update when it's back on line. Is there anyone who can bring a video camera to tape the symposium and launch? Graphics will be posted soon to http://members.cox.net/n9xtn/gpsl-2002-forecast.gif. SA9 file at http://members.cox.net/n9xtn/gpsl-2002-forecast.sa9 . 73 de Mark N9XTN
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Wind data for 3 Jul 1200Z Eta
Mark Conner <n9xtn@...>
981,144,6
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Helium Transportation
pverhage1960 <paul.verhage@...>
Don and I dropped off the 9 helium tanks at the airport. The total
cost for the truck and gas was $100. Needless to say, we need people with cars to help us haul the tanks out of there on Monday. If we get two or three cars, with each one carrying two tanks, we can haul them out in two trips for less than $100. Paul
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Dinner on Thursday
pverhage1960 <paul.verhage@...>
I'll be in town on Thursday. Can I get a list of people who expect to
be here on Thursday and may want to go to dinner? I'll recommend a Chinese/American buffet on the sourthwest side of town. Paul
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Send email please
pverhage1960 <paul.verhage@...>
I can send messages to the group, but I can't send email outside the
group. Can someone please send email to kc0dw@cox.net and let him know what's happening as far as our changes? My HT wasn't hitting the repeater very well last night, so he couldn't understand everything I was saying. Once you email him, please let the group know. Paul
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Media
pverhage1960 <paul.verhage@...>
I don't know about the slide carosel yet, can someone bring one?
I've faxed WDAF in KC and WIBW in Topeka. I let materials with the Manhattan Mercury and talked to the Herington Times by phone. If you know some other media to call, please do so. I'll update WIBW as to the Herington launch. Paul
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