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Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

stan siems
 

It Is a FACT!!  n There is all kinds of information on it.

On 3/22/2020 2:56 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
That did NOT answer either of my questions.

Joe WB9SBD
On 3/22/2020 2:48 PM, stan siems wrote:

latex balloons degrade very fast when exposed to UV  especially so at high altitude. also get brittle at 130 deg temps


On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
Michael,

Do you know this as a fact, or something you have heard?

And degrade fast, how fast is fast?

Joe WB9SBD

On 3/22/2020 1:47 PM, Michael wrote:
The latex balloons degrade quickly in UV so a longer flight can be realized with a UV resistant envelope, Ron makes these in his shop. 

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

My understanding is Ron Meadows started http://www.scientificballoonsolutions.com/.  One of these balloons was what Alan Adamson used on his 2 year flight.  Ron originally did flights on latex balloons with distance and longevity as the goal.  One of his latex balloons went from California to Morocco.


Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 11:20:49 AM MST, stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:


who is Ron and what are his balloons?  I have only been here for a few days  newbe old guy!!

On 3/22/2020 12:52 PM, Michael wrote:
My original post on this suggested classes, unlimited, party ballon, etc. an we could additionally qualify winning with fastest laps, distance traveled, countries crossed, nearly an unlimited number of classes including fun ones like born again, slowest, etc

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

We could do the floater race even if we have an in person gpsl.  As Stan pointed out, do we need weight or size classes?  What if I go buy one of Ron's big balloons?

Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 9:37:26 AM MST, Bill Brown via Groups.Io <wb8elk@...> wrote:


I'm all for a simultaneous Floater Race if we do a virtual GPSL.

- Bill WB8ELK


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <mw@...>
To: GPSL <GPSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [GPSL] COVID-19 and GPSL

How about a race? I’ve yet to do a round the world floater and would like to. Each of us put out $$$ for attending GPSL (when we can get there) which could be spent on a floater project. Our virtual presentations could be floater project centric and the race broken down into unlimited class, party balloon class, etc with weighting favoring experiments / capabilities. 

--Michael Willett
K5NOT 

On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw <hlbrooks@...> wrote:

Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:
what is EBBE flight?
On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT






Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

Joe WB9SBD
 

Thank You,

If my up coming flights are successful I will be putting this to a rest. once and for all how long they last.

But not quite ready yet.

Joe WB9SBD

On 3/22/2020 3:01 PM, Michael wrote:
Heard, and not a fact I can put my arms around completely, but have seen the latex balloon bits turn dark yellow and harden when I left a piece out in the sun for a while. I’ll need to do this again under more controlled conditions.

--Michael Willett

Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

stan siems
 

http://charternex.com/capabilities/barrier-films/          this is the company that produces strato film 430

On 3/22/2020 2:48 PM, stan siems wrote:

latex balloons degrade very fast when exposed to UV  especially so at high altitude. also get brittle at 130 deg temps


On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
Michael,

Do you know this as a fact, or something you have heard?

And degrade fast, how fast is fast?

Joe WB9SBD

On 3/22/2020 1:47 PM, Michael wrote:
The latex balloons degrade quickly in UV so a longer flight can be realized with a UV resistant envelope, Ron makes these in his shop. 

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

My understanding is Ron Meadows started http://www.scientificballoonsolutions.com/.  One of these balloons was what Alan Adamson used on his 2 year flight.  Ron originally did flights on latex balloons with distance and longevity as the goal.  One of his latex balloons went from California to Morocco.


Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 11:20:49 AM MST, stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:


who is Ron and what are his balloons?  I have only been here for a few days  newbe old guy!!

On 3/22/2020 12:52 PM, Michael wrote:
My original post on this suggested classes, unlimited, party ballon, etc. an we could additionally qualify winning with fastest laps, distance traveled, countries crossed, nearly an unlimited number of classes including fun ones like born again, slowest, etc

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

We could do the floater race even if we have an in person gpsl.  As Stan pointed out, do we need weight or size classes?  What if I go buy one of Ron's big balloons?

Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 9:37:26 AM MST, Bill Brown via Groups.Io <wb8elk@...> wrote:


I'm all for a simultaneous Floater Race if we do a virtual GPSL.

- Bill WB8ELK


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <mw@...>
To: GPSL <GPSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [GPSL] COVID-19 and GPSL

How about a race? I’ve yet to do a round the world floater and would like to. Each of us put out $$$ for attending GPSL (when we can get there) which could be spent on a floater project. Our virtual presentations could be floater project centric and the race broken down into unlimited class, party balloon class, etc with weighting favoring experiments / capabilities. 

--Michael Willett
K5NOT 

On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw <hlbrooks@...> wrote:

Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:
what is EBBE flight?
On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT





Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

Michael
 

Heard, and not a fact I can put my arms around completely, but have seen the latex balloon bits turn dark yellow and harden when I left a piece out in the sun for a while. I’ll need to do this again under more controlled conditions.

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:

Michael,

Do you know this as a fact, or something you have heard?

And degrade fast, how fast is fast?

Joe WB9SBD

On 3/22/2020 1:47 PM, Michael wrote:
The latex balloons degrade quickly in UV so a longer flight can be realized with a UV resistant envelope, Ron makes these in his shop. 

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

My understanding is Ron Meadows started http://www.scientificballoonsolutions.com/.  One of these balloons was what Alan Adamson used on his 2 year flight.  Ron originally did flights on latex balloons with distance and longevity as the goal.  One of his latex balloons went from California to Morocco.


Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 11:20:49 AM MST, stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:


who is Ron and what are his balloons?  I have only been here for a few days  newbe old guy!!

On 3/22/2020 12:52 PM, Michael wrote:
My original post on this suggested classes, unlimited, party ballon, etc. an we could additionally qualify winning with fastest laps, distance traveled, countries crossed, nearly an unlimited number of classes including fun ones like born again, slowest, etc

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

We could do the floater race even if we have an in person gpsl.  As Stan pointed out, do we need weight or size classes?  What if I go buy one of Ron's big balloons?

Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 9:37:26 AM MST, Bill Brown via Groups.Io <wb8elk@...> wrote:


I'm all for a simultaneous Floater Race if we do a virtual GPSL.

- Bill WB8ELK


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <mw@...>
To: GPSL <GPSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [GPSL] COVID-19 and GPSL

How about a race? I’ve yet to do a round the world floater and would like to. Each of us put out $$$ for attending GPSL (when we can get there) which could be spent on a floater project. Our virtual presentations could be floater project centric and the race broken down into unlimited class, party balloon class, etc with weighting favoring experiments / capabilities. 

--Michael Willett
K5NOT 

On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw <hlbrooks@...> wrote:

Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:
what is EBBE flight?
On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT





Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

Hank Riley
 

Ladies and Gentlemen:

Please trim all your posts to GPSL so that unnecessary quoting of prior messages is not retransmitted.

Several of the recent posts in this thread are going way too deep into thread history, and I think it's now up to about nine levels deep going right back to Keith's original post about the Zoom virtual workshop meeting!

This is not about saving memory or bandwidth.  It's about clutter.  It is a well-established principle of netiquette.

Thank you to the posters here who do not even quote one message back, or no more than one back.  One level of quoting is usually enough.

Hank

10 levels of quoting could have gone in this space.   :)

Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

Joe WB9SBD
 

That did NOT answer either of my questions.

Joe WB9SBD

On 3/22/2020 2:48 PM, stan siems wrote:

latex balloons degrade very fast when exposed to UV  especially so at high altitude. also get brittle at 130 deg temps


On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
Michael,

Do you know this as a fact, or something you have heard?

And degrade fast, how fast is fast?

Joe WB9SBD

On 3/22/2020 1:47 PM, Michael wrote:
The latex balloons degrade quickly in UV so a longer flight can be realized with a UV resistant envelope, Ron makes these in his shop. 

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

My understanding is Ron Meadows started http://www.scientificballoonsolutions.com/.  One of these balloons was what Alan Adamson used on his 2 year flight.  Ron originally did flights on latex balloons with distance and longevity as the goal.  One of his latex balloons went from California to Morocco.


Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 11:20:49 AM MST, stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:


who is Ron and what are his balloons?  I have only been here for a few days  newbe old guy!!

On 3/22/2020 12:52 PM, Michael wrote:
My original post on this suggested classes, unlimited, party ballon, etc. an we could additionally qualify winning with fastest laps, distance traveled, countries crossed, nearly an unlimited number of classes including fun ones like born again, slowest, etc

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

We could do the floater race even if we have an in person gpsl.  As Stan pointed out, do we need weight or size classes?  What if I go buy one of Ron's big balloons?

Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 9:37:26 AM MST, Bill Brown via Groups.Io <wb8elk@...> wrote:


I'm all for a simultaneous Floater Race if we do a virtual GPSL.

- Bill WB8ELK


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <mw@...>
To: GPSL <GPSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [GPSL] COVID-19 and GPSL

How about a race? I’ve yet to do a round the world floater and would like to. Each of us put out $$$ for attending GPSL (when we can get there) which could be spent on a floater project. Our virtual presentations could be floater project centric and the race broken down into unlimited class, party balloon class, etc with weighting favoring experiments / capabilities. 

--Michael Willett
K5NOT 

On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw <hlbrooks@...> wrote:

Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:
what is EBBE flight?
On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT






Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

stan siems
 

latex balloons degrade very fast when exposed to UV  especially so at high altitude. also get brittle at 130 deg temps


On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
Michael,

Do you know this as a fact, or something you have heard?

And degrade fast, how fast is fast?

Joe WB9SBD

On 3/22/2020 1:47 PM, Michael wrote:
The latex balloons degrade quickly in UV so a longer flight can be realized with a UV resistant envelope, Ron makes these in his shop. 

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

My understanding is Ron Meadows started http://www.scientificballoonsolutions.com/.  One of these balloons was what Alan Adamson used on his 2 year flight.  Ron originally did flights on latex balloons with distance and longevity as the goal.  One of his latex balloons went from California to Morocco.


Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 11:20:49 AM MST, stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:


who is Ron and what are his balloons?  I have only been here for a few days  newbe old guy!!

On 3/22/2020 12:52 PM, Michael wrote:
My original post on this suggested classes, unlimited, party ballon, etc. an we could additionally qualify winning with fastest laps, distance traveled, countries crossed, nearly an unlimited number of classes including fun ones like born again, slowest, etc

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

We could do the floater race even if we have an in person gpsl.  As Stan pointed out, do we need weight or size classes?  What if I go buy one of Ron's big balloons?

Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 9:37:26 AM MST, Bill Brown via Groups.Io <wb8elk@...> wrote:


I'm all for a simultaneous Floater Race if we do a virtual GPSL.

- Bill WB8ELK


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <mw@...>
To: GPSL <GPSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [GPSL] COVID-19 and GPSL

How about a race? I’ve yet to do a round the world floater and would like to. Each of us put out $$$ for attending GPSL (when we can get there) which could be spent on a floater project. Our virtual presentations could be floater project centric and the race broken down into unlimited class, party balloon class, etc with weighting favoring experiments / capabilities. 

--Michael Willett
K5NOT 

On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw <hlbrooks@...> wrote:

Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:
what is EBBE flight?
On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT





Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

Joe WB9SBD
 

Michael,

Do you know this as a fact, or something you have heard?

And degrade fast, how fast is fast?

Joe WB9SBD

On 3/22/2020 1:47 PM, Michael wrote:
The latex balloons degrade quickly in UV so a longer flight can be realized with a UV resistant envelope, Ron makes these in his shop. 

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

My understanding is Ron Meadows started http://www.scientificballoonsolutions.com/.  One of these balloons was what Alan Adamson used on his 2 year flight.  Ron originally did flights on latex balloons with distance and longevity as the goal.  One of his latex balloons went from California to Morocco.


Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 11:20:49 AM MST, stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:


who is Ron and what are his balloons?  I have only been here for a few days  newbe old guy!!

On 3/22/2020 12:52 PM, Michael wrote:
My original post on this suggested classes, unlimited, party ballon, etc. an we could additionally qualify winning with fastest laps, distance traveled, countries crossed, nearly an unlimited number of classes including fun ones like born again, slowest, etc

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

We could do the floater race even if we have an in person gpsl.  As Stan pointed out, do we need weight or size classes?  What if I go buy one of Ron's big balloons?

Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 9:37:26 AM MST, Bill Brown via Groups.Io <wb8elk@...> wrote:


I'm all for a simultaneous Floater Race if we do a virtual GPSL.

- Bill WB8ELK


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <mw@...>
To: GPSL <GPSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [GPSL] COVID-19 and GPSL

How about a race? I’ve yet to do a round the world floater and would like to. Each of us put out $$$ for attending GPSL (when we can get there) which could be spent on a floater project. Our virtual presentations could be floater project centric and the race broken down into unlimited class, party balloon class, etc with weighting favoring experiments / capabilities. 

--Michael Willett
K5NOT 

On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw <hlbrooks@...> wrote:

Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:
what is EBBE flight?
On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT





Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

Michael
 

The latex balloons degrade quickly in UV so a longer flight can be realized with a UV resistant envelope, Ron makes these in his shop. 

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

My understanding is Ron Meadows started http://www.scientificballoonsolutions.com/.  One of these balloons was what Alan Adamson used on his 2 year flight.  Ron originally did flights on latex balloons with distance and longevity as the goal.  One of his latex balloons went from California to Morocco.


Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 11:20:49 AM MST, stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:


who is Ron and what are his balloons?  I have only been here for a few days  newbe old guy!!

On 3/22/2020 12:52 PM, Michael wrote:
My original post on this suggested classes, unlimited, party ballon, etc. an we could additionally qualify winning with fastest laps, distance traveled, countries crossed, nearly an unlimited number of classes including fun ones like born again, slowest, etc

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

We could do the floater race even if we have an in person gpsl.  As Stan pointed out, do we need weight or size classes?  What if I go buy one of Ron's big balloons?

Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 9:37:26 AM MST, Bill Brown via Groups.Io <wb8elk@...> wrote:


I'm all for a simultaneous Floater Race if we do a virtual GPSL.

- Bill WB8ELK


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <mw@...>
To: GPSL <GPSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [GPSL] COVID-19 and GPSL

How about a race? I’ve yet to do a round the world floater and would like to. Each of us put out $$$ for attending GPSL (when we can get there) which could be spent on a floater project. Our virtual presentations could be floater project centric and the race broken down into unlimited class, party balloon class, etc with weighting favoring experiments / capabilities. 

--Michael Willett
K5NOT 

On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw <hlbrooks@...> wrote:

Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:
what is EBBE flight?
On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT




Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

Jerry
 

My understanding is Ron Meadows started http://www.scientificballoonsolutions.com/.  One of these balloons was what Alan Adamson used on his 2 year flight.  Ron originally did flights on latex balloons with distance and longevity as the goal.  One of his latex balloons went from California to Morocco.


Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 11:20:49 AM MST, stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:


who is Ron and what are his balloons?  I have only been here for a few days  newbe old guy!!

On 3/22/2020 12:52 PM, Michael wrote:
My original post on this suggested classes, unlimited, party ballon, etc. an we could additionally qualify winning with fastest laps, distance traveled, countries crossed, nearly an unlimited number of classes including fun ones like born again, slowest, etc

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

We could do the floater race even if we have an in person gpsl.  As Stan pointed out, do we need weight or size classes?  What if I go buy one of Ron's big balloons?

Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 9:37:26 AM MST, Bill Brown via Groups.Io <wb8elk@...> wrote:


I'm all for a simultaneous Floater Race if we do a virtual GPSL.

- Bill WB8ELK


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <mw@...>
To: GPSL <GPSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [GPSL] COVID-19 and GPSL

How about a race? I’ve yet to do a round the world floater and would like to. Each of us put out $$$ for attending GPSL (when we can get there) which could be spent on a floater project. Our virtual presentations could be floater project centric and the race broken down into unlimited class, party balloon class, etc with weighting favoring experiments / capabilities. 

--Michael Willett
K5NOT 

On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw <hlbrooks@...> wrote:

Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:
what is EBBE flight?
On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT




Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

stan siems
 

who is Ron and what are his balloons?  I have only been here for a few days  newbe old guy!!

On 3/22/2020 12:52 PM, Michael wrote:
My original post on this suggested classes, unlimited, party ballon, etc. an we could additionally qualify winning with fastest laps, distance traveled, countries crossed, nearly an unlimited number of classes including fun ones like born again, slowest, etc

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

We could do the floater race even if we have an in person gpsl.  As Stan pointed out, do we need weight or size classes?  What if I go buy one of Ron's big balloons?

Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 9:37:26 AM MST, Bill Brown via Groups.Io <wb8elk@...> wrote:


I'm all for a simultaneous Floater Race if we do a virtual GPSL.

- Bill WB8ELK


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <mw@...>
To: GPSL <GPSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [GPSL] COVID-19 and GPSL

How about a race? I’ve yet to do a round the world floater and would like to. Each of us put out $$$ for attending GPSL (when we can get there) which could be spent on a floater project. Our virtual presentations could be floater project centric and the race broken down into unlimited class, party balloon class, etc with weighting favoring experiments / capabilities. 

--Michael Willett
K5NOT 

On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw <hlbrooks@...> wrote:

Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:
what is EBBE flight?
On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT




Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

Michael
 

My original post on this suggested classes, unlimited, party ballon, etc. an we could additionally qualify winning with fastest laps, distance traveled, countries crossed, nearly an unlimited number of classes including fun ones like born again, slowest, etc

--Michael Willett

On Mar 22, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Jerry via Groups.Io <jerrygable@...> wrote:

We could do the floater race even if we have an in person gpsl.  As Stan pointed out, do we need weight or size classes?  What if I go buy one of Ron's big balloons?

Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 9:37:26 AM MST, Bill Brown via Groups.Io <wb8elk@...> wrote:


I'm all for a simultaneous Floater Race if we do a virtual GPSL.

- Bill WB8ELK


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <mw@...>
To: GPSL <GPSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [GPSL] COVID-19 and GPSL

How about a race? I’ve yet to do a round the world floater and would like to. Each of us put out $$$ for attending GPSL (when we can get there) which could be spent on a floater project. Our virtual presentations could be floater project centric and the race broken down into unlimited class, party balloon class, etc with weighting favoring experiments / capabilities. 

--Michael Willett
K5NOT 

On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw <hlbrooks@...> wrote:

Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:
what is EBBE flight?
On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT




Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

Jerry
 

We could do the floater race even if we have an in person gpsl.  As Stan pointed out, do we need weight or size classes?  What if I go buy one of Ron's big balloons?

Jerry Gable
Balloon Flight Prediction tools
http://www.s3research.com


On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 9:37:26 AM MST, Bill Brown via Groups.Io <wb8elk@...> wrote:


I'm all for a simultaneous Floater Race if we do a virtual GPSL.

- Bill WB8ELK


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <mw@...>
To: GPSL <GPSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [GPSL] COVID-19 and GPSL

How about a race? I’ve yet to do a round the world floater and would like to. Each of us put out $$$ for attending GPSL (when we can get there) which could be spent on a floater project. Our virtual presentations could be floater project centric and the race broken down into unlimited class, party balloon class, etc with weighting favoring experiments / capabilities. 

--Michael Willett
K5NOT 

On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw <hlbrooks@...> wrote:

Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:
what is EBBE flight?
On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT




Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

stan siems
 

I think we need weight classes?


On 3/22/2020 11:47 AM, stan siems wrote:

GENTLE MEN and Woman start your  Hydrogen!

On 3/22/2020 11:37 AM, Bill Brown via Groups.Io wrote:
I'm all for a simultaneous Floater Race if we do a virtual GPSL.

- Bill WB8ELK


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <mw@...>
To: GPSL <GPSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [GPSL] COVID-19 and GPSL

How about a race? I’ve yet to do a round the world floater and would like to. Each of us put out $$$ for attending GPSL (when we can get there) which could be spent on a floater project. Our virtual presentations could be floater project centric and the race broken down into unlimited class, party balloon class, etc with weighting favoring experiments / capabilities. 

--Michael Willett
K5NOT 

On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw <hlbrooks@...> wrote:

Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:
what is EBBE flight?
On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT




Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

stan siems
 

GENTLE MEN and Woman start your  Hydrogen!

On 3/22/2020 11:37 AM, Bill Brown via Groups.Io wrote:
I'm all for a simultaneous Floater Race if we do a virtual GPSL.

- Bill WB8ELK


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <mw@...>
To: GPSL <GPSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [GPSL] COVID-19 and GPSL

How about a race? I’ve yet to do a round the world floater and would like to. Each of us put out $$$ for attending GPSL (when we can get there) which could be spent on a floater project. Our virtual presentations could be floater project centric and the race broken down into unlimited class, party balloon class, etc with weighting favoring experiments / capabilities. 

--Michael Willett
K5NOT 

On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw <hlbrooks@...> wrote:

Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:
what is EBBE flight?
On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT




Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

Bill Brown
 

STan,

  Try buying your hydrogen from a Mom and Pop local welding shop. They typically are much easier to work with than the big gas companies.

- Bill WB8ELK


-----Original Message-----
From: stan siems <ssiems@...>
To: GPSL <GPSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 9:32 am
Subject: Re: [GPSL] COVID-19 and GPSL

Do any of you make your own hydrogen? The gas companyhere will not sell it to me They say It's to dangerous, lp gas is more dangerous then hydrogen!
On 3/21/2020 9:26 AM, stan siems wrote:
Ok  I thought that was what it was I have done many of these using a tyt radio as a cross band repeater last one did 118k ft but our package was stolen. We had people that witnessed some one picking  it up. Lost about $1500 in equipment , It had 3 cameras ,tyt radio, radiation recorder, usb battery, heater and tracking aprs data recorder. I do have another balloon on hand with enough Helium to fill it . Have new cameras and tracker  we were going to launch last spring at the ceder valley ham fest but the weather beat me. There  a you tube videos  of our flights where the cameras recorded the communications . I will see If I can find them .
Thanks Stan

On 3/21/2020 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw wrote:
Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:
what is EBBE flight?
On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT




Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

Bill Brown
 

I'm all for a simultaneous Floater Race if we do a virtual GPSL.

- Bill WB8ELK


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <mw@...>
To: GPSL <GPSL@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [GPSL] COVID-19 and GPSL

How about a race? I’ve yet to do a round the world floater and would like to. Each of us put out $$$ for attending GPSL (when we can get there) which could be spent on a floater project. Our virtual presentations could be floater project centric and the race broken down into unlimited class, party balloon class, etc with weighting favoring experiments / capabilities. 

--Michael Willett
K5NOT 

On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw <hlbrooks@...> wrote:

Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:
what is EBBE flight?
On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT




Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

Floyd Rodgers
 

As for cross band flyable alinco dj-c5 works fine if you can find one. FYI there is one on eBay currently

Floyd KC5QBC

On Mar 21, 2020, at 3:34 PM, stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:

I am going to try to put up a cross band floater once I get the balloon figured out. every one is doing this light weigh stuff I want to work on some thing more substantial that will actually do some thing useful other than just tracking.

On 3/21/2020 1:05 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
Too bad youre too close for a EBBE effort. We are close enough to work eachothers balloon directly. he he he

Joe WB9SBD
<CLEAN-IDLE-TYME-LOGO-120x96.jpg>
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/21/2020 12:16 PM, stan siems wrote:

WB0EMJ I am in Ackley Iowa

On 3/21/2020 11:14 AM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
Stan, who and where are you?

Joe WB9SBD
 SW Wisconsin EN43xo

On 3/21/2020 9:58 AM, stan siems wrote:

If you do cross band between the balloons it should work . earth to balloon A  2m  balloon A   440 to balloon B  2m  down to earth .  The tyt will do the repeat from 2m to uhf   or uhf to 2m

On 3/21/2020 9:39 AM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
The key is the radio,

while many many will do crossband repeat, but few will be bi directional.  say you have 144 & 440  (yes I know the freqs are not valid this is just for example. OK balloon is at 90K feet and it hears a signal on 144 it re-transmits it on 440.

dozens will do that,  but few will do the reverse now with no changing at all,  it hears a signal on 440 and re-transmits it on 144.  for EBBE to work it needs to be able to go both ways.

Joe WB9SBD
<CLEAN-IDLE-TYME-LOGO-120x96.jpg>
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/21/2020 9:26 AM, stan siems wrote:

Ok  I thought that was what it was I have done many of these using a tyt radio as a cross band repeater last one did 118k ft but our package was stolen. We had people that witnessed some one picking  it up. Lost about $1500 in equipment , It had 3 cameras ,tyt radio, radiation recorder, usb battery, heater and tracking aprs data recorder. I do have another balloon on hand with enough Helium to fill it . Have new cameras and tracker  we were going to launch last spring at the ceder valley ham fest but the weather beat me. There  a you tube videos  of our flights where the cameras recorded the communications . I will see If I can find them .

Thanks Stan


On 3/21/2020 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw wrote:
Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:

what is EBBE flight?

On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT







Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

stan siems
 

I am going to try to put up a cross band floater once I get the balloon figured out. every one is doing this light weigh stuff I want to work on some thing more substantial that will actually do some thing useful other than just tracking.

On 3/21/2020 1:05 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
Too bad youre too close for a EBBE effort. We are close enough to work eachothers balloon directly. he he he

Joe WB9SBD

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/21/2020 12:16 PM, stan siems wrote:

WB0EMJ I am in Ackley Iowa

On 3/21/2020 11:14 AM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
Stan, who and where are you?

Joe WB9SBD
 SW Wisconsin EN43xo

On 3/21/2020 9:58 AM, stan siems wrote:

If you do cross band between the balloons it should work . earth to balloon A  2m  balloon A   440 to balloon B  2m  down to earth .  The tyt will do the repeat from 2m to uhf   or uhf to 2m

On 3/21/2020 9:39 AM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
The key is the radio,

while many many will do crossband repeat, but few will be bi directional.  say you have 144 & 440  (yes I know the freqs are not valid this is just for example. OK balloon is at 90K feet and it hears a signal on 144 it re-transmits it on 440.

dozens will do that,  but few will do the reverse now with no changing at all,  it hears a signal on 440 and re-transmits it on 144.  for EBBE to work it needs to be able to go both ways.

Joe WB9SBD

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
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http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/21/2020 9:26 AM, stan siems wrote:

Ok  I thought that was what it was I have done many of these using a tyt radio as a cross band repeater last one did 118k ft but our package was stolen. We had people that witnessed some one picking  it up. Lost about $1500 in equipment , It had 3 cameras ,tyt radio, radiation recorder, usb battery, heater and tracking aprs data recorder. I do have another balloon on hand with enough Helium to fill it . Have new cameras and tracker  we were going to launch last spring at the ceder valley ham fest but the weather beat me. There  a you tube videos  of our flights where the cameras recorded the communications . I will see If I can find them .

Thanks Stan


On 3/21/2020 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw wrote:
Stan,

EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio frequencies.

Howard, KC9QBN
BASE_DePauw

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@...> wrote:

what is EBBE flight?

On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and launch with a group. That all depends of course how the situation looks this summer.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.

The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our usual launch sites.

I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to find a willing partner group to try it.

Joe WB9SBD
Near Space Sciences

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now. Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020 a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated launch on Saturday.

Keith, WA0̷TJT







Re: COVID-19 and GPSL

Ray Brown
 

I know I'm getting in on the tail end of the argument, but the old Alinco 605 had cross band repeat and it automatically switched back and forth between transmitting VHF for transmitting UHF. It was perfect for being at the scene of something and working a distant repeater with a low-power UHF handy talky. I still have mine by the way, LOL

Sent from my HTC

----- Reply message -----
From: "Joe WB9SBD" <nss@...>
To: <GPSL@groups.io>
Subject: [GPSL] COVID-19 and GPSL
Date: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 1:05 PM

Too bad youre too close for a EBBE effort. We are close enough to work 
eachothers balloon directly. he he he

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 3/21/2020 12:16 PM, stan siems wrote:
>
> WB0EMJ I am in Ackley Iowa
>
> On 3/21/2020 11:14 AM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
>> Stan, who and where are you?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>>  SW Wisconsin EN43xo
>>
>> On 3/21/2020 9:58 AM, stan siems wrote:
>>>
>>> If you do cross band between the balloons it should work . earth to 
>>> balloon A  2m  balloon A   440 to balloon B  2m down to earth .  The 
>>> tyt will do the repeat from 2m to uhf or uhf to 2m
>>>
>>> On 3/21/2020 9:39 AM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
>>>> The key is the radio,
>>>>
>>>> while many many will do crossband repeat, but few will be bi 
>>>> directional.  say you have 144 & 440  (yes I know the freqs are not 
>>>> valid this is just for example. OK balloon is at 90K feet and it 
>>>> hears a signal on 144 it re-transmits it on 440.
>>>>
>>>> dozens will do that,  but few will do the reverse now with no 
>>>> changing at all,  it hears a signal on 440 and re-transmits it on 
>>>> 144.  for EBBE to work it needs to be able to go both ways.
>>>>
>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>> Sig
>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>> Idle Tyme
>>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>> On 3/21/2020 9:26 AM, stan siems wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok  I thought that was what it was I have done many of these using 
>>>>> a tyt radio as a cross band repeater last one did 118k ft but our 
>>>>> package was stolen. We had people that witnessed some one picking  
>>>>> it up. Lost about $1500 in equipment , It had 3 cameras ,tyt 
>>>>> radio, radiation recorder, usb battery, heater and tracking aprs 
>>>>> data recorder. I do have another balloon on hand with enough 
>>>>> Helium to fill it . Have new cameras and tracker  we were going to 
>>>>> launch last spring at the ceder valley ham fest but the weather 
>>>>> beat me. There  a you tube videos  of our flights where the 
>>>>> cameras recorded the communications . I will see If I can find them .
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Stan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/21/2020 8:53 AM, BASE_DePauw wrote:
>>>>>> Stan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EBBE is short for Earth-Balloon-Balloon-Earth radio transmission 
>>>>>> link.  A ground based amateur radio operator contacts a distant 
>>>>>> operator using two high altitude balloons with repeater radios to 
>>>>>> extend the range of radio contact.  It allows for contact over 
>>>>>> the horizon, which normally is not possible for many radio 
>>>>>> frequencies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Howard, KC9QBN
>>>>>> BASE_DePauw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:42 AM stan siems <ssiems@... 
>>>>>> <mailto:ssiems@...>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     what is EBBE flight?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 3/20/2020 10:58 PM, L. Paul Verhage KD4STH wrote:
>>>>>>>     I don't have a lot of help here, so I may want to travel and
>>>>>>>     launch with a group. That all depends of course how the
>>>>>>>     situation looks this summer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:42 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...
>>>>>>>     <mailto:nss@...>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         I propose, everyone we have the virtual meeting online
>>>>>>>         using one of the many programs that do that sort of thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         The when it comes to launch day we all launch from our
>>>>>>>         usual launch sites.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         I'd still love do do our EBBE flight, but have yet to
>>>>>>>         find a willing partner group to try it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Joe WB9SBD
>>>>>>>         Near Space Sciences
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>>>>>         Idle Tyme
>>>>>>>         Idle-Tyme.com
>>>>>>>         http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>>>>>         On 3/20/2020 10:58 AM, Keith Kaiser, WA0̷TJT wrote:
>>>>>>>>         HamSCI is in the middle of a Zoom workshop right now.
>>>>>>>>         Its working great and I think we should make GPSL 2020
>>>>>>>>         a virtual set of presentations with a coordinated
>>>>>>>>         launch on Saturday.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Keith, WA0̷TJT
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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