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Re: Upcoming FT8 DX Contest

Richard Kennedy
 

Ken,

For this FT8 activity (and virtually all other special event stations), there are no explicitly defined 'sub-bands', just the conventional recommended frequencies as listed in the K1JT WSJTx protocols what you refer to as 'normal'.   

DXPeditions and other special event station will often use 'secondary digital windows' and this information appears on their websites.  I might add that, by recent convention, these 'secondary digital windows' are for Fox/Hound operations, although I've seen DX stations using standard FT8 (non-F/H) in these windows.

I do agree with you that a contest of this nature should have a recommended window of operational frequencies specific to their contest, but the EU FT8 Club did not do this.  Thus, we'll most likely see these FT8 DX Contest stations mixed throughout the conventional/standard frequency windows.

GL, 73, Rich, K3VAT
 


From: GAPA@groups.io <GAPA@groups.io> on behalf of Kermit Lehman via Groups.Io <ktfrog007@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 10:14 PM
To: GAPA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GAPA] Upcoming FT8 DX Contest
 
So, what sub-bands?  They would be wise not to use the normal FT8 frequencies.  

73,
Ken, AB1J


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Kennedy <astro_va@...>
To: GAPA@groups.io <GAPA@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 11, 2019 12:41 am
Subject: Re: [GAPA] Upcoming FT8 DX Contest

FT8 DX Contest 2019

Rules
1 – Date
Begins: 13-April-2019 | 12:00 UTC
Ends:    14-April-2019 | 12:00 UTC
2 – Bands and mode
80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 meters on FT8 mode. Any station may work any other station. Stations may be worked once per band.
POWER MAX = 100 WATTS !!


From: GAPA@groups.io <GAPA@groups.io> on behalf of Kermit Lehman via Groups.Io <ktfrog007@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:08 PM
To: GAPA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GAPA] Upcoming FT8 DX Contest
 
What frequency sub-bands are to be used?  I didn't see anything in a quick look at the rules.

73,
Ken, AB1J


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Kennedy <astro_va@...>
To: GAPA@groups.io <GAPA@groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Apr 10, 2019 6:33 pm
Subject: [GAPA] Upcoming FT8 DX Contest

Hello GAPA'ians:

This is the first real FT8 only DX contest sponsored by the European FT8 Club, and an opportunity to pickup some new grids/prefixes !

Here is the link for the rules, hours, exchange, etc. : FT8 DX Contest

You don't have to 'enter the contest and submit a score' to play - you can simply monitor and pick out those stations/grids that you want to contact.

Additionally, propagation has been open the last two weekends on 15M (and some on 10M) to South America.  I managed to pick up two new grids in Brazil.

GL, 73, Rich, K3VAT

Re: [wsjtgroup] Suggested Frequencies for this weekend's FT8 contest?

Kermit Lehman
 

Hi Don,

The ARRL RTTY Roundup frequencies were the same as the FT8 Roundup's:





I also have not received a reply from the European FT8 Club.


73,
Ken, AB1J


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Don Hill AA5AU' aa5au@... [wsjtgroup] <wsjtgroup-noreply@...>
To: wsjtgroup <wsjtgroup@...>
Sent: Thu, Apr 11, 2019 10:24 pm
Subject: [wsjtgroup] Suggested Frequencies for this weekend's FT8 contest?

 
I sent two messages to the European FT8 Club asking for suggested
frequencies for this weekend's contest but so far have not received a reply.

Has anyone seen if there are any suggested frequencies for the contest?

If not, should we use suggested frequencies from the FT8 Roundup? They are
listed here:

"Suggested frequencies are 3.590-3.600, 7.080-7.100, 14.130-14.150,
21.130-21.150 and 28.160-28.200 MHz. (Note from Japan: For JA-JA and JA-DX
contacts, use 3.522, 7.032, 14.078, 21.078 and 28.078MHz."

I don't remember if these were the same as adopted by the ARRL for FT8 in
the ARRL RTTY Roundup. Were they?

Don AA5AU

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[RttyDigital] Why are we contesting on normal FT8 frequencies?

Kermit Lehman
 

de AB1J


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Hill AA5AU <aa5au@...>
To: rttydigital <rttydigital@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Apr 13, 2019 11:27 pm
Subject: Re: [RttyDigital] Why are we contesting on normal FT8 frequencies?

No one is saying that FT8 RU or RTTY RU rules should be followed. What we are saying is that the European FT8 contest sponsors did not include recommended frequencies. Therefore we have people operating a contest on standard FT8 frequencies.

This is a problem because you have two sets of operators sending different exchanges.

There is a precedent for frequencies used for FT8 contesting set by both the FT8 RU and RTTY RU that could have and probably should have been followed by contesters to stay away from standard FT8 frequencies. But it's too late now and it will be OK as the contest will be over in about 12 hours and all will be back to normal.

Don AA5AU

-----Original Message-----
From: rttydigital@groups.io [mailto:rttydigital@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 5:44 PM
To: rttydigital@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RttyDigital] Why are we contesting on normal FT8 frequencies?

Comment.
Where in the Rules for The European FT8 Club "FT8 DX Contest" does it indicate FT8 RU or RTTY RU rules are to be followed?  The ARRL newsletter for  April 11, 2019 indicates " The exchange is the same as the ARRL RTTY Roundup, with state/province for US/Canada stations, and serial number for DX participants."

Again this information is not in the European FT8 Club "FT8 DX Contest Rules".  Item -2 (Bands and Mode) and item 4- (Exchange) in the FT8 DX Contest rules makes no mention  FT8 RU or RTTY RU

The European FT8 Club web site has a tab labeled " Settings for contest mode" but does not specially identified the mode for the FT8 DX Contest (April 13/April 14).

Maybe next time clearer instructions could be provided.

73 Mike K7STO

-----Original Message-----
From: rttydigital@groups.io [mailto:rttydigital@groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: April 13, 2019 1:36 PM
To: rttydigital@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RttyDigital] Why are we contesting on normal FT8 frequencies?


On 4/13/2019 16:00, Ed Muns, W0YK wrote:
> Yes, there were some comments here in Visalia about lack of frequency
> specification.  My response was the same as Don's but someone pointed
> out that the FT8 RU and the RTTY RU rules each specified different
> contest frequencies so it was hard to know the "default" that is being
> developed.

Not true.  The FT8 RU and RTTY RU recommended exactly the same set of
default FT8 frequencies.

    -- Joe, K1JT








Amateur Newsline No. 2163

WL7CG
 

All,

We were mentioned on the Amateur Radio Newsline audio broadcast No. 2163 for April 12, 2019. The blurb is at 7:28 on the mp3 file. It isn't part of the video presentation.

https://www.arnewsline.org/

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/58b08985be65947bf171e05e/t/5cafdeaee79c707b9cbfabf1/1555029704104/Report2163.mp3/original/Report2163.mp3?download=true

73 Alan WL7CG

**
AWARDS PROGRAM IS REBRANDED WITH DIGITAL FOCUS

JIM/ANCHOR: If you're busy collecting contacts from around the world using digital modes, this awards program is for hams like you. Geri Goodrich KF5KRN explains.

GERI: The Troy Amateur Radio Association in New York has rebranded its awards program with a digital focus, generating a new name and some new excitement for participants. Organizers call it the Grid and Prefix Award Program, or GAPA. This comprehensive series is open to shortwave listeners as well as hams with awards based on grid square locations as well as call sign prefixes. Eligible contacts can be made on most of the popular digital modes and confirmed through LoTW, eQSL, QR Zed or direct QSL cards. According to Alan WL7CG, prefix awards can be earned by working digital operations around the world and collecting different prefixes, starting with the basic award given for submission of between 50 and 400 prefixes, based on mode used. The grid square awards, likewise, begin with a basic award requiring between 50 and 300 unique grid square locators, also based on mode used. Alan told Newsline that the awards eventually progress in difficulty to add to the challenge. For additional details visit gapawards dot com (gapawards.com).

For Amateur Radio Newsline I'm Geri Goodrich KF5KRN

(ALAN WL7CG)

Re: Amateur Newsline No. 2163

Richard Kennedy
 

Very Nice Alan!  Thanks for originating the New Clip.
73, Rich, K3VAT



From: GAPA@groups.io <GAPA@groups.io> on behalf of WL7CG <asorum@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 7:20 PM
To: GAPA@groups.io
Subject: [GAPA] Amateur Newsline No. 2163
 
All,

We were mentioned on the Amateur Radio Newsline audio broadcast No. 2163
for April 12, 2019. The blurb is at 7:28 on the mp3 file. It isn't part
of the video presentation.

https://www.arnewsline.org/

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/58b08985be65947bf171e05e/t/5cafdeaee79c707b9cbfabf1/1555029704104/Report2163.mp3/original/Report2163.mp3?download=true

73 Alan WL7CG

**
AWARDS PROGRAM IS REBRANDED WITH DIGITAL FOCUS

JIM/ANCHOR: If you're busy collecting contacts from around the world
using digital modes, this awards program is for hams like you. Geri
Goodrich KF5KRN explains.

GERI: The Troy Amateur Radio Association in New York has rebranded its
awards program with a digital focus, generating a new name and some new
excitement for participants. Organizers call it the Grid and Prefix
Award Program, or GAPA. This comprehensive series is open to shortwave
listeners as well as hams with awards based on grid square locations as
well as call sign prefixes. Eligible contacts can be made on most of the
popular digital modes and confirmed through LoTW, eQSL, QR Zed or direct
QSL cards. According to Alan WL7CG, prefix awards can be earned by
working digital operations around the world and collecting different
prefixes, starting with the basic award given for submission of between
50 and 400 prefixes, based on mode used. The grid square awards,
likewise, begin with a basic award requiring between 50 and 300 unique
grid square locators, also based on mode used. Alan told Newsline that
the awards eventually progress in difficulty to add to the challenge.
For additional details visit gapawards dot com (gapawards.com).

For Amateur Radio Newsline I'm Geri Goodrich KF5KRN

(ALAN WL7CG)






Southgate Amateur Radio News

WL7CG
 

All, 

We were picked up by Southgate Amateur Radio News. I just saw it on QRZ and noticed we have gained a couple of new people. 

Hope everyone had a good weekend.

73 Alan WL7CG

http://www.southgatearc.org/news/2019/june/the-grid-and-prefix-award-program.htm#.XPR409NKjOQ

Re: Southgate Amateur Radio News

WL7CG
 

All,

Even better, we made the front page of QRZ...

Re: Southgate Amateur Radio News

Richard Kennedy
 

Very Well Done Alan, thanks much!

73, Rich, K3VAT


From: GAPA@groups.io <GAPA@groups.io> on behalf of WL7CG <asorum@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 10:04 PM
To: GAPA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GAPA] Southgate Amateur Radio News
 
All,

Even better, we made the front page of QRZ...

Tough Ones

WL7CG
 

All,

Glad to see new members to the list. Which provinces are tough for you? Right now I think everyone in VE4 lives in Winnipeg and VK8 in Darwin. I have multiple contacts in VK8 and one grid. One plus is I got my first VK0 station.

Reach out to your membership organizations and let them know about GAPA. I was able to get our northwest ARRL organization to mention the program. There lots of ham clubs and DX groups out there. I want to keep Ernie busy :)

73 Alan WL7CG

Re: Tough Ones

Richard Kennedy
 

Thanks Alan,

Yea, huge unequal distributions of radio operators in various provinces definitely make it challenging to accumulate the required number of grids to earn a badge for a particular province.  One of the keys to overcoming this, and what I've had some success at, is to try using multiple bands: for some of the VE provinces, I have QSOs from 6M thru 160M which I think increases your chance that a new band will generate a new grid.  Secondly, terrain around the transmitter site can dramatically effect the path direction and signal magnitude.  Tall mountains in one specific direction may hamper one's ability to have a decent signal in that direction.  Or the overall radiation pattern of your antenna(s).  For example, my HF dipoles now run broadside to NE and SW, so I have trouble working JAs and south Africa.  Dean Straw (ex ARRL guy) has software and lots of info on doing a terrain analysis at one's site - you might want to check it out - often the results are surprising!

GL, 73, Rich, K3VAT



From: GAPA@groups.io <GAPA@groups.io> on behalf of WL7CG <asorum@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 2:44 PM
To: GAPA@groups.io
Subject: [GAPA] Tough Ones
 
All,

Glad to see new members to the list. Which provinces are tough for you? Right now I think everyone in VE4 lives in Winnipeg and VK8 in Darwin. I have multiple contacts in VK8 and one grid. One plus is I got my first VK0 station.

Reach out to your membership organizations and let them know about GAPA. I was able to get our northwest ARRL organization to mention the program. There lots of ham clubs and DX groups out there. I want to keep Ernie busy :)

73 Alan WL7CG

Re: Tough Ones

WL7CG
 

I hear that Rich. I have two SOTA peaks across the street from me that take out everything to the north (Europe and Africa). I have great view of the Pacific, so that makes up for some of it. High latitude impacts propagation too. I rooting for the SFI to increase!

73 Alan WL7CG

Re: Tough Ones

WM2U
 

Hi Guys, Sheez I have just finished processing a big claim off our friend Joao CU3AA. It took me 4 days. I really enjoy working with Joao.
Rich did you manage to contact those two errant Hams or should I simply delete em!?
Did you manage to make heads or Tails of that one I send yesterday?

I'll have another look at it but I certainly do not want to create a claim and them process it, what'cha say? Ernie

On 6/5/2019 10:09 AM, WL7CG wrote:
I hear that Rich. I have two SOTA peaks across the street from me that take out everything to the north (Europe and Africa). I have great view of the Pacific, so that makes up for some of it. High latitude impacts propagation too. I rooting for the SFI to increase!

73 Alan WL7CG

Re: errant hams

Richard Kennedy
 

Hi Ernie,

I've started to compose an email to these two errant hams about falling short on the GAPA Submission, but the emails just didn't sit right with me.

So too bad for them.  Thanks for reminding me about this.

73, Rich, K3VAT



From: GAPA@groups.io <GAPA@groups.io> on behalf of WM2U <emills21@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 2:23 PM
To: GAPA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GAPA] Tough Ones
 

Hi Guys, Sheez I have just finished processing a big claim off our friend Joao CU3AA. It took me 4 days. I really enjoy working with Joao.
Rich did you manage to contact those two errant Hams or should I simply delete em!?
Did you manage to make heads or Tails of that one I send yesterday?

I'll have another look at it but I certainly do not want to create a claim and them process it, what'cha say? Ernie

On 6/5/2019 10:09 AM, WL7CG wrote:
I hear that Rich. I have two SOTA peaks across the street from me that take out everything to the north (Europe and Africa). I have great view of the Pacific, so that makes up for some of it. High latitude impacts propagation too. I rooting for the SFI to increase!

73 Alan WL7CG

Re: errant hams

WM2U
 

Hi Rick,
Hey! no problem, I know where your coming from so lets move on. I will kill any unused files for them.
Thanks for reviewing this. Ernie


On 6/7/2019 5:17 AM, Richard Kennedy wrote:
Hi Ernie,

I've started to compose an email to these two errant hams about falling short on the GAPA Submission, but the emails just didn't sit right with me.

So too bad for them.  Thanks for reminding me about this.

73, Rich, K3VAT



From: GAPA@groups.io <GAPA@groups.io> on behalf of WM2U <emills21@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 2:23 PM
To: GAPA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GAPA] Tough Ones
 

Hi Guys, Sheez I have just finished processing a big claim off our friend Joao CU3AA. It took me 4 days. I really enjoy working with Joao.
Rich did you manage to contact those two errant Hams or should I simply delete em!?
Did you manage to make heads or Tails of that one I send yesterday?

I'll have another look at it but I certainly do not want to create a claim and them process it, what'cha say? Ernie

On 6/5/2019 10:09 AM, WL7CG wrote:
I hear that Rich. I have two SOTA peaks across the street from me that take out everything to the north (Europe and Africa). I have great view of the Pacific, so that makes up for some of it. High latitude impacts propagation too. I rooting for the SFI to increase!

73 Alan WL7CG

S9A DXPedition

Richard Kennedy
 

The Sao Tome Island DXPedition runs several more days.  It it turning out to be the FT8 DXPedition of the year with the vast majority of their QSOs on this mode.

S9A was on 20M again this afternoon with one of the strongest signals from Africa this year.  Please see attached photo.  You can visit their website for additional info.  

GL, 73, Rich, K3VAT

GOOD DIGITAL MORNING

WL7CG
 

All,

The RDRC promotes a digital activity period every Saturday morning that highlights different modes. It might be something of interest to those looking for a break from FT8 and wanting to pick up some new grids. 

Alan WL7CG

http://www.rdrclub.ru/dni-aktivnosti-rtsrk/854-digital-morning

RDRC invites fans of digital radio 
every Saturday in a Year to meet and spend with us «Good DIGITAL morning». We offer this activity from 03:00 to 11:00 UTC. We recommend using HF bands from 160 to 10 meters, depending on the propagation on them. «Good morning DIGITAL» is not a Contest, you do not need to send reports. Along with other days of activity organized by the RDRC during the year, this event will contribute to meeting the conditions of the annual diploma «Master of Amateur Digital Radio Communication» and will help applicants to obtain the required amount of QSOs in rarely used digital modes for awards «RDRC HAMLOG DIGI Activity»

VE4 and FT4

WL7CG
 

All,

Hope everyone is well. Just found the sixth grid for Manitoba/VE4, pretty much everyone lives in Winnipeg! I have a long way to go on VO1 and VO2.

Still digging for a VK8 that lives outside Darwin.

Has anyone tried FT4? I have been having some fun with it. It's not as effective as FT8, but certainly faster.

73 Alan WL7CG

Re: VE4 and FT4

Richard Kennedy
 

Hi Alan,  Very good on the 6th VE4 Grid!

Haven't tried FT4 as I'm concentrating on two Marine Mobile stations that are only on with FT8 and who are several thousand miles away so I need all the sensitivity I can get.

Might do FT4 later.

73, Rich, K3VAT


From: GAPA@groups.io <GAPA@groups.io> on behalf of WL7CG <asorum@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:57 PM
To: GAPA@groups.io <GAPA@groups.io>
Subject: [GAPA] VE4 and FT4
 
All,

Hope everyone is well. Just found the sixth grid for Manitoba/VE4, pretty much everyone lives in Winnipeg! I have a long way to go on VO1 and VO2.

Still digging for a VK8 that lives outside Darwin.

Has anyone tried FT4? I have been having some fun with it. It's not as effective as FT8, but certainly faster.

73 Alan WL7CG

Tis Done

WM2U
 

OK you can now claim a DX BAR with any PINNACLE Award entity.
This is back to Pre-PINNACLE Award DX listings.

Ernie wm2u

Re: Tis Done

WL7CG
 

Thanks for the effort Ernie. When things settle down after summer, we should consider putting together some sort of special event for GAPA. Any ideas all?

73 Alan WL7CG

On 9/1/19 1:05 PM, WM2U wrote:
OK you can now claim a DX BAR with any PINNACLE Award entity.
This is back to Pre-PINNACLE Award DX listings.

Ernie wm2u