High waves


Steve
 

Hi ya'll.  Just curious if any of you had your Flicka in high waves, say 6 to 8 feet? And if so how did she do? 

Also, I've read that waves high as a boat's beam has a good chance of csubject it.  Is that true for our little tank of a boat?

I'd love to hear what ya'll have to say about the subjecy.


Lou Backover
 

6-8ft sea swell regularly 8-11ft choppy seas occasionally. The boat just rises/floats over what's ever comming at you. My son got nervous once looking at the big rollers approaching and i told him to relax as she rose over them. She does have a tendency to hobby horse with the short waterline length, so if the wind's too light even a 3ft chop will bring you to a standstill. The boat is fine in rough conditions, the real question is how uncomfortable do you want to be aboard and how long will you put up with said conditions because you will get banged around.


Best regards, 

Lou Backover 



From: Flicka20@groups.io <Flicka20@groups.io> on behalf of Steve via groups.io <BULLDOGSTEVEDAVIS@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 9:35 AM
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Subject: [Flicka20] High waves

Hi ya'll.  Just curious if any of you had your Flicka in high waves, say 6 to 8 feet? And if so how did she do? 

Also, I've read that waves high as a boat's beam has a good chance of csubject it.  Is that true for our little tank of a boat?

I'd love to hear what ya'll have to say about the subjecy.



ED SEITZ
 

For my 2 cents it isn’t the high of the wave but it’s relationship with the interval if interval is less than high you a in for a long day! The biggest I saw was reported ar 17 feet but it was a long period so it wasn’t to bad



On May 24, 2022, at 9:48 AM, Lou Backover <lou.backover@...> wrote:


6-8ft sea swell regularly 8-11ft choppy seas occasionally. The boat just rises/floats over what's ever comming at you. My son got nervous once looking at the big rollers approaching and i told him to relax as she rose over them. She does have a tendency to hobby horse with the short waterline length, so if the wind's too light even a 3ft chop will bring you to a standstill. The boat is fine in rough conditions, the real question is how uncomfortable do you want to be aboard and how long will you put up with said conditions because you will get banged around.


Best regards, 

Lou Backover 



From: Flicka20@groups.io <Flicka20@groups.io> on behalf of Steve via groups.io <BULLDOGSTEVEDAVIS@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 9:35 AM
To: Flicka 20 Group <Flicka20@groups.io>
Subject: [Flicka20] High waves

Hi ya'll.  Just curious if any of you had your Flicka in high waves, say 6 to 8 feet? And if so how did she do? 

Also, I've read that waves high as a boat's beam has a good chance of csubject it.  Is that true for our little tank of a boat?

I'd love to hear what ya'll have to say about the subjecy.



Antonio Martinez
 

Agree.
On Chesapeake bay we often see confused 3-5’ and it can be miserable.  Short interval…

On May 24, 2022, at 9:57 AM, ED SEITZ <67elansefhc@...> wrote:

For my 2 cents it isn’t the high of the wave but it’s relationship with the interval if interval is less than high you a in for a long day! The biggest I saw was reported ar 17 feet but it was a long period so it wasn’t to bad



On May 24, 2022, at 9:48 AM, Lou Backover <lou.backover@...> wrote:


6-8ft sea swell regularly 8-11ft choppy seas occasionally. The boat just rises/floats over what's ever comming at you. My son got nervous once looking at the big rollers approaching and i told him to relax as she rose over them. She does have a tendency to hobby horse with the short waterline length, so if the wind's too light even a 3ft chop will bring you to a standstill. The boat is fine in rough conditions, the real question is how uncomfortable do you want to be aboard and how long will you put up with said conditions because you will get banged around.


Best regards, 

Lou Backover 



From: Flicka20@groups.io <Flicka20@groups.io> on behalf of Steve via groups.io <BULLDOGSTEVEDAVIS@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 9:35 AM
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Subject: [Flicka20] High waves

Hi ya'll.  Just curious if any of you had your Flicka in high waves, say 6 to 8 feet? And if so how did she do? 

Also, I've read that waves high as a boat's beam has a good chance of csubject it.  Is that true for our little tank of a boat?

I'd love to hear what ya'll have to say about the subjecy.



Daniel Roeder
 

Last year I sailed the Dutch coast south with tidal current in my favor. Approaching Rotterdam Port I had to fight against river currents from the Maas against tidal streams. Wind was about 4 Bft. and built 4-6 feet high, steep waves and extremely choppy waters. At about 5kn speed my Flicka was chaked around and took everything easy. It took me more energy to hold myself safely in the cockpit than to steer the boat. But while running down the waves I had to hold on tightly to the tiller, to avoid steering out of course. Would do it again any time - strongly build boat. It was fun, no fear at all.



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Von: Antonio Martinez <middleriverstudio@...>
Datum: 24.05.22 16:07 (GMT+01:00)
An: Flicka20@groups.io
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Agree.
On Chesapeake bay we often see confused 3-5’ and it can be miserable.  Short interval…

On May 24, 2022, at 9:57 AM, ED SEITZ <67elansefhc@...> wrote:

For my 2 cents it isn’t the high of the wave but it’s relationship with the interval if interval is less than high you a in for a long day! The biggest I saw was reported ar 17 feet but it was a long period so it wasn’t to bad



On May 24, 2022, at 9:48 AM, Lou Backover <lou.backover@...> wrote:


6-8ft sea swell regularly 8-11ft choppy seas occasionally. The boat just rises/floats over what's ever comming at you. My son got nervous once looking at the big rollers approaching and i told him to relax as she rose over them. She does have a tendency to hobby horse with the short waterline length, so if the wind's too light even a 3ft chop will bring you to a standstill. The boat is fine in rough conditions, the real question is how uncomfortable do you want to be aboard and how long will you put up with said conditions because you will get banged around.


Best regards, 

Lou Backover 



From: Flicka20@groups.io <Flicka20@groups.io> on behalf of Steve via groups.io <BULLDOGSTEVEDAVIS@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 9:35 AM
To: Flicka 20 Group <Flicka20@groups.io>
Subject: [Flicka20] High waves

Hi ya'll.  Just curious if any of you had your Flicka in high waves, say 6 to 8 feet? And if so how did she do? 

Also, I've read that waves high as a boat's beam has a good chance of csubject it.  Is that true for our little tank of a boat?

I'd love to hear what ya'll have to say about the subjecy.



Lou Backover
 

Good point about the tiller handling. Our inlet features steep following seas frequently, occasionally breaking coming over a bar. I found handling the tiller was quite exhilarating surfing downhill once I got the hang of it. One of the first times I wasn't prepared and broached and it really got the heart rate up for a few moments and she just recovered after being thrown sideways and me thrown against the cockpit lifelines. That said, these heavy little boats just bob around safely and smoosh through swells and wakes. 


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LB


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Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 10:28:52 AM
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Last year I sailed the Dutch coast south with tidal current in my favor. Approaching Rotterdam Port I had to fight against river currents from the Maas against tidal streams. Wind was about 4 Bft. and built 4-6 feet high, steep waves and extremely choppy waters. At about 5kn speed my Flicka was chaked around and took everything easy. It took me more energy to hold myself safely in the cockpit than to steer the boat. But while running down the waves I had to hold on tightly to the tiller, to avoid steering out of course. Would do it again any time - strongly build boat. It was fun, no fear at all.



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-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: Antonio Martinez <middleriverstudio@...>
Datum: 24.05.22 16:07 (GMT+01:00)
An: Flicka20@groups.io
Betreff: Re: [Flicka20] High waves

Agree.
On Chesapeake bay we often see confused 3-5’ and it can be miserable.  Short interval…

On May 24, 2022, at 9:57 AM, ED SEITZ <67elansefhc@...> wrote:

For my 2 cents it isn’t the high of the wave but it’s relationship with the interval if interval is less than high you a in for a long day! The biggest I saw was reported ar 17 feet but it was a long period so it wasn’t to bad



On May 24, 2022, at 9:48 AM, Lou Backover <lou.backover@...> wrote:


6-8ft sea swell regularly 8-11ft choppy seas occasionally. The boat just rises/floats over what's ever comming at you. My son got nervous once looking at the big rollers approaching and i told him to relax as she rose over them. She does have a tendency to hobby horse with the short waterline length, so if the wind's too light even a 3ft chop will bring you to a standstill. The boat is fine in rough conditions, the real question is how uncomfortable do you want to be aboard and how long will you put up with said conditions because you will get banged around.


Best regards, 

Lou Backover 



From: Flicka20@groups.io <Flicka20@groups.io> on behalf of Steve via groups.io <BULLDOGSTEVEDAVIS@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 9:35 AM
To: Flicka 20 Group <Flicka20@groups.io>
Subject: [Flicka20] High waves

Hi ya'll.  Just curious if any of you had your Flicka in high waves, say 6 to 8 feet? And if so how did she do? 

Also, I've read that waves high as a boat's beam has a good chance of csubject it.  Is that true for our little tank of a boat?

I'd love to hear what ya'll have to say about the subjecy.



Priscilla Wheatley
 

The height of the waves and the beam of the boat are what count along with the wind and point of sail.  Depending on where you are waves and swell have to be considered.  Here in Maine swells come in from the ocean and waves are kicked up by the breeze.  Someone told me years ago that 50% of beam is the decision point, so that was my starting point.  If you are broadside to the waves, broaching is a danger and you can be pushed over far enough to capsize.  It can be a lot of work.   I often motor sailed.  The captain of the schooner I spent so much time on watched me motor sailing across the Penobscot Bay with long swells but not too choppy.  He admired the way the Flicka ate them up one after another.  If it looked too rough I could stay in the Damariscotta River or John's Bay with several good gunkholes to anchor in.    

The one time I genuinely scared myself I took a shorter route around the end of an island.  I didn't think about the wind against the tide.  I faced a set of three huge vertical walls right in front of me.  They would easily have washed over the hull.  Fortunately I had the motor on but I thought for sure I was going to sink.  The boat managed to climb over the first one. I lost some way on but made it over the 2nd.  The third one - got over that one also, but the boat was pushed backwards.  The prop gave it away.  I made it the rest of the way to my planned anchorage. When I looked at the chart I didn't think about the ledge.  Waves get a lot higher when the bottom gets much shallower.