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Spade anchor
Michael Schmidtman
Your ground tackle looks good. I always used a 35# CQR, but I don't know if they are still in production. Used to be most people thought CQR was the best, but the introduction of the Bruce anchor cut into the CQR market.
Hope that's helpful.
Michael
On Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 3:43:40 PM PST, Michael Chiarella <mc2of2@...> wrote:
Anyone using a Spade anchor. What size / material (considering aluminum) is working best, along with chain/rope rode lengths/dimensions? I'm thinking the S60 (21#) with 100' 1/4 inch G4 and 300 or so feet of 1/2" 3strand nylon. SoCal area.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Scott
Michael,
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After considerable research and my own experience with more traditional anchors, I recently purchased a Spade A80 as the primary bower for my Flicka. Before saying any more, I have to disclose that I have not yet used the Spade on my Flicka, as I am in the midst of an extensive refit. I have, however, used Spades on other/larger boats.
Anchor design/choice seems to be the ’third-rail’ of sailing – perhaps only slightly behind religion and politics regarding passions, and therefore I am somewhat reluctant to comment beyond sharing why I chose the Spade.
I was a long term user of the genuine CQR. Like so many others, my experience was mixed. I always figured, however, that the Pardeys knew what they were talking about, so I stuck with the CQR for quite some time before eventually migrating to the Bruce (genuine Belgian-made). I have been reading articles for a long time, and watching various anchor test videos suggesting that the newer generation of modern anchors often outperform the more traditional designs. I happened upon John Harries’ anchoring articles on his subscription ‘Attainable Adventure Cruising’ (AAC) website, and was inspired by his strong endorsement of the Spade given his extensive experience in extreme conditions. Concurrent to reading John’s articles, I spoke with two different couples sailing in high latitudes who used the Spade almost exclusively on their aluminum expedition boats. I later discovered Steve Goodwin’s extensive anchor testing videos (like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l59f-OjWoq0). I narrowed my search to anchors that work well with the Flicka Bowsprit (without extensive modification), performed in a variety of bottom-types, and that were proven by sailors I know and trust. I ruled-out all ‘roll-bar’ type anchors due to potential interference with the sprit ears/platform, though there are many in this category with excellent reputations and performance. I also ruled out the ‘Vulcan’ anchor that is manufactured by Rocna based on some information conveyed to me from a prior user.
I contacted the US Spade distributor in Florida and queried them as to which model they recommended for the Flicka. I sent them drawings and specifications for the Flicka. We had a lengthy exchange about which model was appropriate. I informed them that my Flicka, in cruising trim, was likely in the 6500 - 6700 lbs. range. Mine is an enclosed head version with inboard 1GM10 Yanmar. Empty, my boat weighs-in around 6000 lbs.
I tried to argue that the Spade S60 (steel, 21 lbs.) would be adequate, but they were quick to point out that the S60 (and the aluminum A60) are only rated for boats weighing less than 4850 lbs. I believe that even the early PSC outboard Flickas weigh in close to 5500 lbs. empty, so they really discouraged me from using the S or A 60 as anything other than a ‘lunch-hook.’ I protested that I simply could not use the heavier S80 (steel, 33 lbs.), as I really consider that beyond the practical range without installing at least a mechanical/manual windlass (which adds even more weight to the bow of a boat that is already prone to hobby-horsing). They then recommended that I consider the 15 lb. Spade A80 as perhaps the perfect compromise for the Flicka. It is rated for boats less than 9920 lbs.
I had initial concerns that the lighter anchor might not perform as well – especially during the initial set. They assured me that the Spade relies on surface area rather than anchor weight for effective setting and holding power. They did concede that in certain grassy bottoms, the heavier ’S’ series steel anchors of otherwise same size and surface area might set and bury a bit faster than the aluminum, but that in their experience, the Aluminum anchors perform nearly identically in all other settings.
My secondary concern was whether an anchor as large as the ’80’ series would fit/work with the Flicka bowsprit (and without looking ridiculous). I had Spade send me CAD files for both ’60’ and ’80’ series anchor templates. A quick trip to my local copy center with a big plotter and a bit of foam-core board enabled me to build actual-size mockups of both sizes that I then tried on my Flicka. To be sure, I much prefer the look and feel of the smaller ’60’ series anchor for the Flicka, but I decided to take the advice of the manufacturer, and I went with the A80 instead. It is a bit larger than the 22 lb. Bruce it replaces, but it is not too ponderously huge, and I don’t think it destroys the lines of the Flicka bow.
I intend to make a new roller assembly that will fit within the existing bowsprit platform – primarily to accommodate/secure the curved shank of the Spade. To be fair, I never was really happy how the 25 lb. CQR or the 22 lb. Bruce fit the factory roller (always had to lash and block both), so starting fresh would have happened anyway.
As for rode, I was surprised to learn that Spade actually discourages all-chain (or even more than a boat’s length of chain) with the Spade. For rocky conditions alone, I do plan on using at least a boat’s length of chain (likely G43) and I will use Crosby Grade ‘B’ anchor shackles (counter to logic, Grade ‘B’ is much stronger than Grade ‘A’). I am no longer a fan of anchor swivels.
I am also of the opinion that for purposes of the Flicka (and my cruising waters anyway), all-chain rode is not practical – both for reasons of weight in the bow (I want a minimum of 300’ of rode), and for retrieval (again, I am trying to avoid a windlass). Even the lighter G70 chain at 0.66lb./ft. would be WAY too heavy for all-chain in my humble opinion.
Here are some photos of my mockup anchors, the real thing, and some test-fits of mockup on my Flicka:
S/A60 Mockup in Foreground, S/A80 in middle, ‘real’ A80’ in back:
S/A80 Mockup on my Flicka (pulpit removed):
Oh, and Spade anchors go on sale once yearly. Just so happens that is right now! They are definitely pricey compared to other options, but a boat lost to a lesser anchor is pricier still!
Best,
Scott
#392
On Jan 13, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Michael Chiarella <mc2of2@...> wrote:Anyone using a Spade anchor. What size / material (considering aluminum) is working best, along with chain/rope rode lengths/dimensions? I'm thinking the S60 (21#) with 100' 1/4 inch G4 and 300 or so feet of 1/2" 3strand nylon. SoCal area.
Thanks!
Michael Chiarella
Great info...thank you!
From: Flicka20@groups.io <Flicka20@groups.io> on behalf of Scott via groups.io <wilsometer@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:59 PM
To: Flicka20@groups.io <Flicka20@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Flicka20] Spade anchor
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:59 PM
To: Flicka20@groups.io <Flicka20@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Flicka20] Spade anchor
Michael,
After considerable research and my own experience with more traditional anchors, I recently purchased a Spade A80 as the primary bower for my Flicka. Before saying any more, I have to disclose that I have not yet used the Spade on my Flicka,
as I am in the midst of an extensive refit. I have, however, used Spades on other/larger boats.
Anchor design/choice seems to be the ’third-rail’ of sailing – perhaps only slightly behind religion and politics regarding passions, and therefore I am somewhat reluctant to comment beyond sharing why I chose the Spade.
I was a long term user of the genuine CQR. Like so many others, my experience was mixed. I always figured, however, that the Pardeys knew what they were talking about, so I stuck with the CQR for quite some time before eventually migrating to
the Bruce (genuine Belgian-made). I have been reading articles for a long time, and watching various anchor test videos suggesting that the newer generation of modern anchors often outperform the more traditional designs. I happened upon John Harries’ anchoring
articles on his subscription ‘Attainable Adventure Cruising’ (AAC) website, and was inspired by his strong endorsement of the Spade given his extensive experience in extreme conditions. Concurrent to reading John’s articles, I spoke with two different couples
sailing in high latitudes who used the Spade almost exclusively on their aluminum expedition boats. I later discovered Steve Goodwin’s extensive anchor testing videos (like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l59f-OjWoq0).
I narrowed my search to anchors that work well with the Flicka Bowsprit (without extensive modification), performed in a variety of bottom-types, and that were proven by sailors I know and trust. I ruled-out all ‘roll-bar’ type anchors due to potential interference
with the sprit ears/platform, though there are many in this category with excellent reputations and performance. I also ruled out the ‘Vulcan’ anchor that is manufactured by Rocna based on some information conveyed to me from a prior user.
I contacted the US Spade distributor in Florida and queried them as to which model they recommended for the Flicka. I sent them drawings and specifications for the Flicka. We had a lengthy exchange about which model was appropriate. I informed
them that my Flicka, in cruising trim, was likely in the 6500 - 6700 lbs. range. Mine is an enclosed head version with inboard 1GM10 Yanmar. Empty, my boat weighs-in around 6000 lbs.
I tried to argue that the Spade S60 (steel, 21 lbs.) would be adequate, but they were quick to point out that the S60 (and the aluminum A60) are only rated for boats weighing less than 4850 lbs. I believe that even the early PSC outboard Flickas
weigh in close to 5500 lbs. empty, so they really discouraged me from using the S or A 60 as anything other than a ‘lunch-hook.’ I protested that I simply could not use the heavier S80 (steel, 33 lbs.), as I really consider that beyond the practical range
without installing at least a mechanical/manual windlass (which adds even more weight to the bow of a boat that is already prone to hobby-horsing). They then recommended that I consider the 15 lb. Spade A80 as perhaps the perfect compromise for the Flicka.
It is rated for boats less than 9920 lbs.
I had initial concerns that the lighter anchor might not perform as well – especially during the initial set. They assured me that the Spade relies on surface area rather than anchor weight for effective setting and holding power. They did concede
that in certain grassy bottoms, the heavier ’S’ series steel anchors of otherwise same size and surface area
might set and bury a bit faster than the aluminum, but that in their experience, the Aluminum anchors perform nearly identically in all other settings.
My secondary concern was whether an anchor as large as the ’80’ series would fit/work with the Flicka bowsprit (and without looking ridiculous). I had Spade send me CAD files for both ’60’ and ’80’ series anchor templates. A quick trip to my
local copy center with a big plotter and a bit of foam-core board enabled me to build actual-size mockups of both sizes that I then tried on my Flicka. To be sure, I much prefer the look and feel of the smaller ’60’ series anchor for the Flicka, but I decided
to take the advice of the manufacturer, and I went with the A80 instead. It is a bit larger than the 22 lb. Bruce it replaces, but it is not too ponderously huge, and I don’t think it destroys the lines of the Flicka bow.
I intend to make a new roller assembly that will fit within the existing bowsprit platform – primarily to accommodate/secure the curved shank of the Spade. To be fair, I never was really happy how the 25 lb. CQR or the 22 lb. Bruce fit the factory
roller (always had to lash and block both), so starting fresh would have happened anyway.
As for rode, I was surprised to learn that Spade actually discourages all-chain (or even more than a boat’s length of chain) with the Spade. For rocky conditions alone, I do plan on using at least a boat’s length of chain (likely G43) and I will
use Crosby Grade ‘B’ anchor shackles (counter to logic, Grade ‘B’ is much stronger than Grade ‘A’). I am no longer a fan of anchor swivels.
I am also of the opinion that for purposes of the Flicka (and my cruising waters anyway), all-chain rode is not practical
– both for reasons of weight in the bow (I want a minimum of 300’ of rode), and for retrieval (again, I am trying to avoid a windlass). Even the lighter G70 chain at 0.66lb./ft. would be WAY too heavy for all-chain in
my humble opinion.
Here are some photos of my mockup anchors, the real thing, and some test-fits of mockup on my Flicka:
S/A60 Mockup in Foreground, S/A80 in middle, ‘real’ A80’ in back:
S/A80 Mockup on my Flicka (pulpit removed):
Oh, and Spade anchors go on sale once yearly. Just so happens that is right now! They are definitely pricey compared to other options, but a boat lost to a lesser anchor is pricier still!
Best,
Scott
#392
On Jan 13, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Michael Chiarella <mc2of2@...> wrote:
Anyone using a Spade anchor. What size / material (considering aluminum) is working best, along with chain/rope rode lengths/dimensions? I'm thinking the S60 (21#) with 100' 1/4 inch G4 and 300 or so feet of 1/2" 3strand nylon. SoCal area.
Thanks!
35 pound CQR for a 20ft flicka?!! That was my every day anchor for my 24000lb 6ft draft cutter...
That is way too much weight on the bow of a little boat, a Rocna 8 or 12 would do fine coupled with a decent length of bottom chain.
Also, you want some stretch in the nylon rode so going too heavy will not absorb shock and tend to yank the bow fittings as well as the possibility of jerking the anchor loose.
Buy the highest quality rode in the correct load range for the best results. 1/2" should be max
For shallow sandy conditions i will go with a HT Danforth, 15ft chain and 3/8" line.
Fortress aluminum anchors also work amazingly well and are light enough to go a little oversize and still be able to haul it in without a windlass.
Matt
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From: Michael Schmidtman <michael_schmidtman@...>
Date: 1/13/21 6:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Flicka20@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Flicka20] Spade anchor
Your ground tackle looks good. I always used a 35# CQR, but I don't know if they are still in production. Used to be most people thought CQR was the best, but the introduction of the Bruce anchor cut into the CQR market.
Hope that's helpful.
Michael
On Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 3:43:40 PM PST, Michael Chiarella <mc2of2@...> wrote:
Anyone using a Spade anchor. What size / material (considering aluminum) is working best, along with chain/rope rode lengths/dimensions? I'm thinking the S60 (21#) with 100' 1/4 inch G4 and 300 or so feet of 1/2" 3strand nylon. SoCal area.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Great article, very informative, thank you.
Matt
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From: "Scott via groups.io" <wilsometer@...>
Date: 1/13/21 8:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Flicka20@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Flicka20] Spade anchor
After considerable research and my own experience with more traditional anchors, I recently purchased a Spade A80 as the primary bower for my Flicka. Before saying any more, I have to disclose that I have not yet used the Spade on my Flicka, as I am in the midst of an extensive refit. I have, however, used Spades on other/larger boats.
Anchor design/choice seems to be the ’third-rail’ of sailing – perhaps only slightly behind religion and politics regarding passions, and therefore I am somewhat reluctant to comment beyond sharing why I chose the Spade.
I was a long term user of the genuine CQR. Like so many others, my experience was mixed. I always figured, however, that the Pardeys knew what they were talking about, so I stuck with the CQR for quite some time before eventually migrating to the Bruce (genuine Belgian-made). I have been reading articles for a long time, and watching various anchor test videos suggesting that the newer generation of modern anchors often outperform the more traditional designs. I happened upon John Harries’ anchoring articles on his subscription ‘Attainable Adventure Cruising’ (AAC) website, and was inspired by his strong endorsement of the Spade given his extensive experience in extreme conditions. Concurrent to reading John’s articles, I spoke with two different couples sailing in high latitudes who used the Spade almost exclusively on their aluminum expedition boats. I later discovered Steve Goodwin’s extensive anchor testing videos (like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l59f-OjWoq0). I narrowed my search to anchors that work well with the Flicka Bowsprit (without extensive modification), performed in a variety of bottom-types, and that were proven by sailors I know and trust. I ruled-out all ‘roll-bar’ type anchors due to potential interference with the sprit ears/platform, though there are many in this category with excellent reputations and performance. I also ruled out the ‘Vulcan’ anchor that is manufactured by Rocna based on some information conveyed to me from a prior user.
I contacted the US Spade distributor in Florida and queried them as to which model they recommended for the Flicka. I sent them drawings and specifications for the Flicka. We had a lengthy exchange about which model was appropriate. I informed them that my Flicka, in cruising trim, was likely in the 6500 - 6700 lbs. range. Mine is an enclosed head version with inboard 1GM10 Yanmar. Empty, my boat weighs-in around 6000 lbs.
I tried to argue that the Spade S60 (steel, 21 lbs.) would be adequate, but they were quick to point out that the S60 (and the aluminum A60) are only rated for boats weighing less than 4850 lbs. I believe that even the early PSC outboard Flickas weigh in close to 5500 lbs. empty, so they really discouraged me from using the S or A 60 as anything other than a ‘lunch-hook.’ I protested that I simply could not use the heavier S80 (steel, 33 lbs.), as I really consider that beyond the practical range without installing at least a mechanical/manual windlass (which adds even more weight to the bow of a boat that is already prone to hobby-horsing). They then recommended that I consider the 15 lb. Spade A80 as perhaps the perfect compromise for the Flicka. It is rated for boats less than 9920 lbs.
I had initial concerns that the lighter anchor might not perform as well – especially during the initial set. They assured me that the Spade relies on surface area rather than anchor weight for effective setting and holding power. They did concede that in certain grassy bottoms, the heavier ’S’ series steel anchors of otherwise same size and surface area might set and bury a bit faster than the aluminum, but that in their experience, the Aluminum anchors perform nearly identically in all other settings.
My secondary concern was whether an anchor as large as the ’80’ series would fit/work with the Flicka bowsprit (and without looking ridiculous). I had Spade send me CAD files for both ’60’ and ’80’ series anchor templates. A quick trip to my local copy center with a big plotter and a bit of foam-core board enabled me to build actual-size mockups of both sizes that I then tried on my Flicka. To be sure, I much prefer the look and feel of the smaller ’60’ series anchor for the Flicka, but I decided to take the advice of the manufacturer, and I went with the A80 instead. It is a bit larger than the 22 lb. Bruce it replaces, but it is not too ponderously huge, and I don’t think it destroys the lines of the Flicka bow.
I intend to make a new roller assembly that will fit within the existing bowsprit platform – primarily to accommodate/secure the curved shank of the Spade. To be fair, I never was really happy how the 25 lb. CQR or the 22 lb. Bruce fit the factory roller (always had to lash and block both), so starting fresh would have happened anyway.
As for rode, I was surprised to learn that Spade actually discourages all-chain (or even more than a boat’s length of chain) with the Spade. For rocky conditions alone, I do plan on using at least a boat’s length of chain (likely G43) and I will use Crosby Grade ‘B’ anchor shackles (counter to logic, Grade ‘B’ is much stronger than Grade ‘A’). I am no longer a fan of anchor swivels.
I am also of the opinion that for purposes of the Flicka (and my cruising waters anyway), all-chain rode is not practical – both for reasons of weight in the bow (I want a minimum of 300’ of rode), and for retrieval (again, I am trying to avoid a windlass). Even the lighter G70 chain at 0.66lb./ft. would be WAY too heavy for all-chain in my humble opinion.
Here are some photos of my mockup anchors, the real thing, and some test-fits of mockup on my Flicka:
S/A60 Mockup in Foreground, S/A80 in middle, ‘real’ A80’ in back:
S/A80 Mockup on my Flicka (pulpit removed):
Oh, and Spade anchors go on sale once yearly. Just so happens that is right now! They are definitely pricey compared to other options, but a boat lost to a lesser anchor is pricier still!
Best,
Scott
#392
On Jan 13, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Michael Chiarella <mc2of2@...> wrote:Anyone using a Spade anchor. What size / material (considering aluminum) is working best, along with chain/rope rode lengths/dimensions? I'm thinking the S60 (21#) with 100' 1/4 inch G4 and 300 or so feet of 1/2" 3strand nylon. SoCal area.
Thanks!
Steve
On Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 05:43:38 PM CST, Michael Chiarella <mc2of2@...> wrote:
Anyone using a Spade anchor. What size / material (considering aluminum) is working best, along with chain/rope rode lengths/dimensions? I'm thinking the S60 (21#) with 100' 1/4 inch G4 and 300 or so feet of 1/2" 3strand nylon. SoCal area.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Isn't a fortress 23 for a 40 ft boat?
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From: "Steve via groups.io" <BULLDOGSTEVEDAVIS@...>
Date: 1/14/21 10:43 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: "Flicka20@groups.io" <flicka20@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Flicka20] Spade anchor
On Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 05:43:38 PM CST, Michael Chiarella <mc2of2@...> wrote:
Anyone using a Spade anchor. What size / material (considering aluminum) is working best, along with chain/rope rode lengths/dimensions? I'm thinking the S60 (21#) with 100' 1/4 inch G4 and 300 or so feet of 1/2" 3strand nylon. SoCal area.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Steve
Yeah...something like a 40 footer
On Thursday, January 14, 2021, 10:50:52 AM CST, Matt Corwin via groups.io <bongogram@...> wrote:
Isn't a fortress 23 for a 40 ft boat?
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: "Steve via groups.io" <BULLDOGSTEVEDAVIS@...>
Date: 1/14/21 10:43 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: "Flicka20@groups.io" <flicka20@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Flicka20] Spade anchor
On Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 05:43:38 PM CST, Michael Chiarella <mc2of2@...> wrote:
Anyone using a Spade anchor. What size / material (considering aluminum) is working best, along with chain/rope rode lengths/dimensions? I'm thinking the S60 (21#) with 100' 1/4 inch G4 and 300 or so feet of 1/2" 3strand nylon. SoCal area.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Someone should contact the navy and tell them their anchors are too small!
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From: "Steve via groups.io" <BULLDOGSTEVEDAVIS@...>
Date: 1/14/21 12:14 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Flicka20@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Flicka20] Spade anchor
Yeah...something like a 40 footer
On Thursday, January 14, 2021, 10:50:52 AM CST, Matt Corwin via groups.io <bongogram@...> wrote:
Isn't a fortress 23 for a 40 ft boat?
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: "Steve via groups.io" <BULLDOGSTEVEDAVIS@...>
Date: 1/14/21 10:43 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: "Flicka20@groups.io" <flicka20@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Flicka20] Spade anchor
On Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 05:43:38 PM CST, Michael Chiarella <mc2of2@...> wrote:
Anyone using a Spade anchor. What size / material (considering aluminum) is working best, along with chain/rope rode lengths/dimensions? I'm thinking the S60 (21#) with 100' 1/4 inch G4 and 300 or so feet of 1/2" 3strand nylon. SoCal area.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Steve
haha! lol
On Friday, January 15, 2021, 05:59:47 AM CST, Matt Corwin via groups.io <bongogram@...> wrote:
Someone should contact the navy and tell them their anchors are too small!
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: "Steve via groups.io" <BULLDOGSTEVEDAVIS@...>
Date: 1/14/21 12:14 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Flicka20@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Flicka20] Spade anchor
Yeah...something like a 40 footer
On Thursday, January 14, 2021, 10:50:52 AM CST, Matt Corwin via groups.io <bongogram@...> wrote:
Isn't a fortress 23 for a 40 ft boat?
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: "Steve via groups.io" <BULLDOGSTEVEDAVIS@...>
Date: 1/14/21 10:43 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: "Flicka20@groups.io" <flicka20@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Flicka20] Spade anchor
On Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 05:43:38 PM CST, Michael Chiarella <mc2of2@...> wrote:
Anyone using a Spade anchor. What size / material (considering aluminum) is working best, along with chain/rope rode lengths/dimensions? I'm thinking the S60 (21#) with 100' 1/4 inch G4 and 300 or so feet of 1/2" 3strand nylon. SoCal area.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Nick D
Just thinking we should be careful about loading up the bowsprit with anchors and chain over the winter if the mast is down and the headstay is not supporting the sprit.
Regards, Nick
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Steve
Yep. Good point
On Friday, January 15, 2021, 09:17:51 AM CST, Nick D <sailvela@...> wrote:
Just thinking we should be careful about loading up the bowsprit with anchors and chain over the winter if the mast is down and the headstay is not supporting the sprit.
Regards, Nick
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