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Re: Stingy S meter readings on weaker signals

Jedi_nite
 

Yes I would agree the FT S meter is a little low reading in the lower units. I have injected a signal in 1dBm increments from -120 on and the readings in the lower (1-4) s need approx. between 7 - 9 dBm / S unit movement. I say approximately as I did this quick without the usual warm up and calibration. In practice I tend not to use the meter and after 35 years of hf the calculator between my ears automatically gives me Readability number and probable signal strength and will be as accurate as most rx's even expensive ones, gd dx

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Re: Signal link FTDX101MP

Jedi_nite
 

Hello Joe been waiting to see what your results were. Glad it is sorted now I have ordered an SL today, had same problem on two different laptops, thank you

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Re: Stingy S meter readings on weak signals

Jim KE4WY
 

Art, I am sure you already checked, ensure the IPO is set the same on both the Main and Sub receiver when comparing “S” meter reading and the ATTN is off on both the Main and Sub receiver.

KE4WY Jim

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 10:14 AM Art Suberbielle <kz5d.arts@...> wrote:
Upon further research, I discovered that there is about 2 S units difference in the same received signal on the Main Rx and the SUB Rx. Switched back and forth. Also tried listening with SYNC and watched both meters simultaneously.

As one respondent pointed out, S meter calibration varies considerably.

Thanks for the shared info.

73,
Art KZ5D


Stingy S meter readings on weak signals

Art Suberbielle
 

Upon further research, I discovered that there is about 2 S units difference in the same received signal on the Main Rx and the SUB Rx. Switched back and forth. Also tried listening with SYNC and watched both meters simultaneously.

As one respondent pointed out, S meter calibration varies considerably.

Thanks for the shared info.

73,
Art KZ5D


Re: Stingy S meter readings on weaker signals

Mark van Wijk
 

Comparing S-unit indications between different rigs is totally moot in my opinion.
Extreme difference on dB's per S-unit, S9 alignment, Pre-amp/Front -End settings and most important; non-linear behavior form S1 to S9.

From measuring various FT000MP's, Many Kenwood, Icom, TT Orion and K3's for over 20yrs, using a Marconi 2955 analyzer I can conclude:

K3 is roughly 6dB per S-unit, and the most accurate I have seen
Orion is roughly 5 dB per S-unit, slightly less linear behavior
All other models show between 2 and 4 dB per S-unit, totally non-linear and all over the place.

Most rigs are OK'-ish at S9  (-73dBm)

All depends also heavily on the chosen settings (Pre-amps, IPM/Front-End etc.)

I personally prefer S1 set around -120dBm  (officially it is -121) as this shows practical behavior on band noise and weak signals.
YMMV.
73 Mark PA5MW


Re: Stingy S meter readings on weaker signals

Rejean Leveille
 

I saw the same between FTdx5000 and FTdx101MP, The 5000 will give some s-meter reading on weak signals when FTdx101MP will just give S-0 but both radios will be even to copy (cw-ssb).
Now this is true for S-0 to S-2 taken on Ftdx5000, S-3 to over S-9 all 4x receivers will give the same s-meter report.
On extreme low signals flat zero noise both radios are equals with maximum gain seen the AGC does not need to work to copy.
My Ftdx5000 was checked at Yaesu last March and I was delighted to compare both radios 2009 & 2019 to be so close.
Of course NB, DNR and TX -IMD 3rd for MP give better results with Ftdx101MP but on normal situation we cannot ear any difference.
73, va2am Rejean


Re: Stingy S meter readings on weaker signals

N7ZM
 

You said lounder signals the same but lower signals S1 to S2 were higher on K3. To me it just looks like your S meter readings are not that accurate on low end of meter while on higher signals they are the same. In other words the S meter calibrations are more accurate on stronger signals. S meter readings from one radio to the next in my 41 years can vary and if calibrations are off it can only be assumed as an indicator. The bigger question that's more important than a reading on meter is how well was the audio received in comparison? 
Ron N7ZM




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Stingy S meter readings on weaker signals

Art Suberbielle
 

On 20m this afternoon listening to a few stations. Decided to compare the S meter readings from the MP to my K-3. Signals were as loud on both radios with the audio gain set to about 1 o'clock, but stations that registered S-1 to 2 on the MP were S-3 to 4 on the K-3. Louder signals were about the same. For example, S-5 signals on the MP were S-5 to 6 on the K-3. S-9 signals were identical.

Has anyone else noticed this?

73,
Art KZ5D


Re: Signal link FTDX101MP

Joseph Baker <joebaker324@...>
 

Cheers Brian, all the best and thanks to everyone for their help. 

Joe MI0NWA 

On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 12:13, Brian Smithson <brianesmithson@...> wrote:
Fantastic news Joe! Congrats and 73!

Brian n8wrl

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 5:22 AM Joe <joe.baker324@...> wrote:
Well it seems the Signalink has cured my problem, ran it yesterday for 8 hrs straight without any disconnects, it would seem the problem is now sorted :)

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Re: Signal link FTDX101MP

Brian Smithson
 

Fantastic news Joe! Congrats and 73!

Brian n8wrl

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 5:22 AM Joe <joe.baker324@...> wrote:
Well it seems the Signalink has cured my problem, ran it yesterday for 8 hrs straight without any disconnects, it would seem the problem is now sorted :)


Re: Signal link FTDX101MP

Joe <joe.baker324@...>
 

Well it seems the Signalink has cured my problem, ran it yesterday for 8 hrs straight without any disconnects, it would seem the problem is now sorted :)


Re: CW Auto BK In

Joseph Baker <joebaker324@...>
 

Excellent Franco, that very useful information, this saves me a lot of bother. Thank you very much👍

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 23:17, Franco <hb9oab@...> wrote:
Hi Joe,
I always think I also wrote you a private email ...

It's very simple:

For the CW AUTO MODE or 50MHz, even leaving the key button configuration PROC/KEYER without changing it, as you have chosen, just go to TX and press PROC to activate it.
MIC / SPEED gives priority to the CW choice by activating the KEYER when you are in RX, while when you are in TX, if you press the MIC / SPEED the PROC is activated!
 
This procedure to activate PROC, works with TX with MIC or MOX.
In RX activate KEYER!
 
Further information and updates for FTDX101D / MP can also be found on my online FREE WEB SERVER dedicated to FTDX101!

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Re: CW Auto BK In

Franco
 

Hi Joe,
I always think I also wrote you a private email ...

It's very simple:

For the CW AUTO MODE or 50MHz, even leaving the key button configuration PROC/KEYER without changing it, as you have chosen, just go to TX and press PROC to activate it.
MIC / SPEED gives priority to the CW choice by activating the KEYER when you are in RX, while when you are in TX, if you press the MIC / SPEED the PROC is activated!
 
This procedure to activate PROC, works with TX with MIC or MOX.
In RX activate KEYER!
 
Further information and updates for FTDX101D / MP can also be found on my online FREE WEB SERVER dedicated to FTDX101!


Re: FTdx101MP receive audio drop out on WSJT-X

PA7TWO - Kees
 
Edited

Talking about aged software: Still using the Log-Eqf.exe logging tool from 1997 onwards here which based on ... DOS... Yes seriously, just in a DOS box under Windoes10 Prof. Latest Log-Eqf,exe DOS version is completely bug free, I can use the program blindfold... All needed changes like DXCC's added and removed done by myself. Compiled new radio's their serial packages too. Simple, bug free, costs free, all options I need = Excellent.

Vy 73, de Kees - PA7TWO - M5TWO


Re: FTdx101MP receive audio drop out on WSJT-X

Joe <joe.baker324@...>
 

Ok guys, I got the Signalink USB and no more problem so far. Lets hope it stays that way. Thanks for all the input, very much appreciated!

Joe MI0NWA


Re: CW Auto BK In

Joseph Baker <joebaker324@...>
 

Yeah have done that mate

Joe


On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 at 18:08, k4tj via groups.io <k4tj=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
With CW AUTO off, set your processor as desired then go back to CW AUTO on.
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Re: CW Auto BK In

k4tj@...
 

With CW AUTO off, set your processor as desired then go back to CW AUTO on.
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K4TJ


Manual en español #PA7RA #F1UBW-REGIS

magodi@...
 

Acabo de comprar el FTDX 101 MP y quisiera saber si algunos de Uds tiene información sobre el Manual en Español de este equipo.
Agradezco su ayuda

73s

CE4EI Manuel


Re: FTdx101D+Expert 1.5K-FA

Laurie G3UML
 

Still getting used to my 101D, really enjoying it. Someone a few days ago mentioned having the DNR setting at 10. Wow. Extremely effective, the background noise drops right down and the signal really comes up. Just made an otherwise near impossible contact with an SM running six watts on a very poor 20 metres possible!

Delighted to say all the weird little things that I put down to the antennas seem to have gone away. No strange power reductions, or shut-downs. Makes life much calmer round here!

Regarding the ALC discussions, I should echo N6TV and say 15-20 watts is really ample input. I monitor on an old and trusted Heath SB610 scope, and all the input you require is there with about 15-20 watts and the mic gain in the mid-20’s. Pointless using more.

Next adventure, programming the CW memories!

73 all Laurie G3UML

On 12 Jul 2020, at 12:51, Laurie G3UML via groups.io <Lauriemar@...> wrote:

Hi Frank, yes the 200 watts makes sense if you don’t want an amplifier. I was delighted with the performance last night, 80 and 40 very busy in the contest but the receiver really coped well and is a pleasure to use

All the best

Laurie G3UML 


On 12 Jul 2020, at 12:33, Frank Eichel <tmbrjnkr@...> wrote:


Thanks for the reports, Laurie, I have been eyeing the MP model as 200 watts from the IC-751A plus the beam seem to work well for me. i probably won't be able to install a linear in this shack. 

Good propagation into Europe yesterday morning your time, worked several EU stations on SSB with no problem. Hoping for similar conditions again over the next few hours.

73 Frank VE7AWV



On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 at 12:43, Laurie G3UML via groups.io <Lauriemar=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi all

So just had a fairly intensive hour in the IARU contest with the new combination. One big ferrite on the linking CAT cable, I will install the Palomar kit when it arrives. 

Having said that it seemed pretty happy across every band 80-6 metres. Had quite a few contacts on 40-20-15-10, just called CQ briefly on the others. 

No unexpected power cutdowns or shutdowns, possibly once or twice it was a bit slow picking up as I tripped the vox, I'm not sure. Was using a monitor scope so had a good look at the signal. Using 15 watts in, mic gain at 22, compression at 40, which sounds good on the monitoring and looks right on the scope. 

My CAT cable from GM6DX carries band data, linear on-off, ALC and relay. All working fine into my 5 different wire antennas.  I don't get that exact frequency readout on the linear, but I'm not bothered about that, all fine when I auto-tuned the linear for each segment.

Pretty pleased so far. Now to learn some of the clever stuff!

73 Laurie G3UML




Re: Signal link FTDX101MP

Alain F6IKY
 

Bonjour, j'utilise ici sur mon FTDX 101D & sur mon FT-991A  la carte son intérieure du poste en SSTV..DRM...FT8 .etc...sans aucun problème , par contre bien utiliser un BON câble USB de qualité avec une férrite.Bonnes 73 à tous.Alain en Bourgogne.  

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