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Re: Emco CAD Cam with new PC?

Felix
 

and the Main Menu thing is also done :-)

you can navigate with the "F-Buttons" (e.g. F8 for MAIN MENU 8)

:-)

Re: Emco CAD Cam with new PC?

Felix
 

...ok now I've found the Demo thing :-) 

For others with the same problem: 

In DOSBox mount the unzipped folder (e.g c c:\dos\cadcam)
the in Dosbox change directory to c:\
DON'T start the COMPACT5.EXE FIEL!
Start the I.EXE (Installer) intead!

Now you have the "right" Version...

Re: Emco CAD Cam with new PC?

Felix
 

Hello,

I have a CNC5 MK4 an I downloaded the 5CNC.zip in the File Section.
I've installed DOSBOX 0.74-2 on a Windows 7 64-Bit machine.

Everything starts great but I can't navigate in the MAIN MENU!
Is there a trick? When I move my mouse down, i can choose from "1 WORK PIECE" or " 2 DRAW" but nothing else!?
Wich restrictions are in the "DEMOVERSION" is it possible to make there a "FULLVERSION" :-)

Best Regards
Felix

CNC5 beginner fault/questions! #a6a112001

Felix
 

Hello everyone, 
I'm now a proud owner of a Compact 5 CNC MK4 (unfortunately without Toolchanger) 😊

I'm testing right now.... 
I use MFI at the moment and have some questions... 

I wrote a simple programm in MFI:

00: G92 X00 Z1000
01: M03
02: G00 X2000 Z100
03: M30

If I send this via MFI, on my EMCO screen always stands:

00: M00 X-00

What's wrong?

An another question:
If I move the axis in Hand-Mode for example X=100 Z=2000 an I press the H/C button to input my CNC-Program (by Hand), put in my code an switch back with H/C, all axis are 0 (X0 Z0) is this normal? 
When I put a G90 in Set 00 and the Display shows "Absolute" the same thing happening.. . 
Is this a bug or a feature :-) 

When I type the program above by hand it always put the axis to 0,0 by the end of the program. Same with G92 - is this Normal? 

Please help me and sorry for my bad English :-) 

Regards 
Felix 

Re: X travel not working

Cap'n Stab'n
 

Sorry it took so long to get to this. With the motor off lathe but connected to its wires, there is no movement from the motor. It sounds like its trying, but theres no movement. The driving collar is tight and the shaft moves freely when the power is off. I also noticed something a bit off putting. When I touch the motor housing to the lathe body, there's some small sparks.

Thanks for any information on this issue,
Nic

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, 15:45 Cap'n Stab'n via Groups.Io <nic.shimala=gmail.com@groups.io wrote:
I'll check that out once I get to the house. Thanks guys,

Nic

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 8:33 AM David Rabenius via Groups.Io <swedeson2002=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/cnc-machining/beginners-80-rebuild-emco-compact-5-cnc-lathe-193493/

Sorry about the pic not loading.
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On Mon, 1/14/19, David Rabenius via Groups.Io <swedeson2002=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] X travel not working
 To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
 Date: Monday, January 14, 2019, 9:12 AM

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 Your pulley should look like this with
 the pinned shaft.



 On Mon, 1/14/19, David Rabenius via
 Groups.Io <swedeson2002=yahoo.com@groups.io>
 wrote:

  Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] X travel
 not working
  To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
  Date: Monday, January 14, 2019, 9:03
 AM

  Sounds like the pulley pin that
 connects the
  pulley to the shaft somehow sheared
 off or got loose. 
  Did you have a crash or stall the axis
 somehow?
  Other than that remove the belt and
  turn the stepper by hand, if it spins
 on the stepper shaft
  then you need to look at the pulley
 shaft pin for damage.

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  On Mon, 1/14/19, cjlear <tools@...>
  wrote:

   Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] X
 travel
  not working
   To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
   Date: Monday, January 14, 2019,
 7:02
  AM


       On 14/01/2019
   2:18 pm,
         nic.shimala@...
   wrote:

     
     
       
         I have a Compact
  5 CNC, All of a suddent the stepper
   motor that
         drives the
  tooling (left and right directions)
 stopped
   working.
         The motor itself
  is good still, it's moving. I
   thought it might be
         the belt that
  connects the stem if the motor to the
   driving stem
         of the drive
  screw, so I ordered one of those,
 same
   problem. It
         looks like I need
  to tension the belt somehow. Am I
   missing
         something?

     
       Nic, sounds like a belt
  pulley is slipping, probably
   something as
         simple as a loose
  grubscrew that holds it to the
   shaft.

     
       Stick your finger up
  underneath the gearbox just
   inboard of the
         motor housing,
  you'll feel the bottom of the
   pulley and belt. Roll
         it with your
  finger.

     
       Does the saddle move?

     
       No, then the problem is
  probably the pulley on
   the feed screw.Yes, then the
 problem
  is probably
   the pulley on the motor.
           Turn on
  the machine. Try to roll it again. If
 you
   can move the
           saddle
  with the machine on, then the pulley
 is
   definitely loose
           on the
  motor.
       From memory they are
  just held on with a grubscrew,
   its late and
         I can't find my
  spare steppers to be sure, but
   you've already had
         them apart to
  replace the belt so switch the
 machine
   off, whip the
         motor off and
  check the pulleys are tight.
       Let us know how you get
  on.
       Cheers
        Charlie

     
     

     
   









Re: WINNC

David Owen
 

I am in the UK. I have the msd disks for both machines but you need to have the msd disks specifically for your machines. Another post on here has explained how to get them.
I will check the disks that I have to make sure that I have a copy of winNC and if you still don't have a copy I will sort a copy out for you.




On Monday, February 18, 2019, 12:48 am, alcost@... wrote:

David,
I could use a copy of your winNC and MSD data disk for my emco pc 50 turn and mill. Do you also happen to have winCam? would be willing to pay for it.
my phone number is 205-240-0742.

Re: I have a emco pc 50 turn and a emco pc 50 mill

David Rabenius
 

Saw the auction, was surprised the lathe bought 2x the mill. Anywho, I am in Raleigh and have both machines, the mill I have dozens of part files. You dont need Wincam to run parts. You need WINNC, YOU generate your programs then load them into the folder.
In order to run a program that is listed on the softkey (library) it has to be placed outside of the main file folder. The machine wont list the program unless it's done that way. The WINCAM software allows you to run the machine under that software. You can use any G -code generating software, editing the g-code may be necessary & its not hard at all. If you are close by PM me for help.
EMCO will give yuou a new MSD disk if you call and give them the serial number. If you need the RS485 cards then they no longer support the machines, they are hitting 25 years old now. The 55 series use the RS422 card.

Dave
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On Sun, 2/17/19, arjan.dijk <arjan.dijk@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] I have a emco pc 50 turn and a emco pc 50 mill
To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
Date: Sunday, February 17, 2019, 6:32 PM

I expect
there was a Wincam installation on the machines. Did you
find that? What do you use in Winnc to run the machines?
Maybe a screenshot/photo?
Op ma 18 feb. 2019
om 00:18 schreef <alcost@...>:
just bought pc 50 turn
and pc 50 mill from a college in NC. have the machines and
computers running windows 98. both have winNC and the lathe
has winConfigure. I do not have data disk. Please tell me
what I can do to get these going. Both have program to run a
part and i have dry ran them and both machines run as they
should. I believe they were set up on a network, so there is
no software to generate nc code

Re: I have a emco pc 50 turn and a emco pc 50 mill

arjan.dijk
 

So you are running Fanuc controls. This is not bad, but not the easiest to program by hand. You can also consider programming with Fusion 360 en use a Fanuc postprocessor. I can help you with WinCAM but its less powerfull then a Fanuc control, although a bit easier to program simple contours.

Op ma 18 feb. 2019 om 01:04 schreef <alcost@...>:

here are pics of my machines

Re: ISA computer card PC Turn 50? Moderator: Moderators

arjan.dijk
 

Will not run under Windows XP as it does not support your EMCO. As I understand because you need to be be able to assign hardware IRQ adresses, winXP does nog support that

Op ma 18 feb. 2019 om 06:48 schreef <emco@...>:

even fault cards still interested to buy them , I can fix them , also I have a working machine pcturn 55 with rs-485 card , still in perfect shape and the fanuc0t is working perfect with winnc32 on win98, I do not have the installation disks
that is why I cloned the hard disk as a back up , interested to buy the installation software so I can try to see if I can run it under winxp x32?.  I need a backup isa card if possible.

Re: ISA computer card PC Turn 50? Moderator: Moderators

emco@...
 

even fault cards still interested to buy them , I can fix them , also I have a working machine pcturn 55 with rs-485 card , still in perfect shape and the fanuc0t is working perfect with winnc32 on win98, I do not have the installation disks
that is why I cloned the hard disk as a back up , interested to buy the installation software so I can try to see if I can run it under winxp x32?.  I need a backup isa card if possible.

Re: WINNC

Al Cost
 

David,
I could use a copy of your winNC and MSD data disk for my emco pc 50 turn and mill. Do you also happen to have winCam? would be willing to pay for it.
my phone number is 205-240-0742.

Re: WINNC

Al Cost
 

David,
I could use a copy of your winNC and MSD data disk for my emco pc 50 turn and lathe. Do you also happen to have winCam? would be willing to pay for it.
my phone number is 205-240-0742.

Thanks
Al

Re: I have a emco pc 50 turn and a emco pc 50 mill

Al Cost
 

here are pics of my machines

Re: I have a emco pc 50 turn and a emco pc 50 mill

Al Cost
 

did you get the pictures?

Re: I have a emco pc 50 turn and a emco pc 50 mill

arjan.dijk
 

I expect there was a Wincam installation on the machines. Did you find that? What do you use in Winnc to run the machines? Maybe a screenshot/photo?

Op ma 18 feb. 2019 om 00:18 schreef <alcost@...>:

just bought pc 50 turn and pc 50 mill from a college in NC. have the machines and computers running windows 98. both have winNC and the lathe has winConfigure. I do not have data disk. Please tell me what I can do to get these going. Both have program to run a part and i have dry ran them and both machines run as they should. I believe they were set up on a network, so there is no software to generate nc code

Re: I have a emco pc 50 turn and a emco pc 50 mill

Al Cost
 

just bought pc 50 turn and pc 50 mill from a college in NC. have the machines and computers running windows 98. both have winNC and the lathe has winConfigure. I do not have data disk. Please tell me what I can do to get these going. Both have program to run a part and i have dry ran them and both machines run as they should. I believe they were set up on a network, so there is no software to generate nc code

Re: I have a emco pc 50 turn and a emco pc 50 mill

Al Cost
 

good ol USA

Re: I have a emco pc 50 turn and a emco pc 50 mill

arjan.dijk
 

I have software for the PC55 Turn and mill. PC50 should also work with WinCAM, but I just looked at the CDs and there is no MSD (machine data disk) for the Turn50 on there. Do you have the PCs with the machines? Do you have the ISA cards? Without those it will be impossible. Do you have the MSD?

If you have those I can share WinCAM with you

Arjan

Op zo 17 feb. 2019 om 19:42 schreef <alcost@...>:

I have a emco pc 50 turn and a emco pc 50 mill. Does anyone have the original software and manuals I can get from you?

Re: ISA computer card PC Turn 50? Moderator: Moderators

arjan.dijk
 

I got Benny Croonens card and I hope to test it soon. This one is different from the PC55 one so hopefully can help you with that.

Regards Arjan

Op zo 17 feb. 2019 om 11:08 schreef <emco@...>:

i am looking for an isa card for pcturn 55  let me know if still available for sale
regards salim

Re: I have a emco pc 50 turn and a emco pc 50 mill

John Driggers
 

I have the electrical manuals for the PC Turn 50 in English.  If you are in the US, I've had very good luck with just asking EMCO Worldwide for manuals.  Software is a bit more dicey, and I've only been successful there with the current "Concept" generation that uses an embedded PC controller.