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PCmill50 programming errors

David Rabenius
 

  To all I am trying to get a part programmed on the PCmill50. I used to have a friend wo was a EMCO dealer in Arizona but he passed away  earlier this year. My problem is with G02 & G03, keep getting the "wrong circle parameter" alarm. I used MasterCam X3 and for some reason it isn't happy. My friend used Maxnc software and MasterCam previously with no problems. I am not running the post processor specific for the EMCO, does anyone have that?
  The part I am making is 4pcs. on a 1.00 x .500 thick strip about 5.4 inches long. I am using a 1\2 inch Carbide endmill and a .750 dia. x .125 thick Keo cutter. The parts are spaced 1.400 inches apart. I have programmed & cut the ruffing passes already. I left about .020 for a cleanup cut as I ruffed with a staggered \finishing 3 flute carbide endmill.
   I don't have the EMCO milling software, have the 50 Lathe software but haven't used it yet. I need to make chips at this point and time is running out. Its a stupid problem to have and without someone who knows the machine & programming am S.O.L.
   The machine is certainly capable as I have done some "out of the box" programming using a single point threadmill to thread a large diameter tube with a thread Horizontally. I had a problem figuring that out, called EMCO (no help) and finally my local dealer (deceased) drew the thread as a helix and used Maxnc software to program. It worked like a champ. programs were huge thou.
  If anyone out there could look at my code or using the PC50 software reprogram it I would be happy to pay for the service. I have all files & drawings.


WELturn operating instructions for 5CNC

cncjeff@...
 

Does anyone have a copy of the operating instructions and software for using the WELturn card?


Re: Welturn card, need hardware instructions

cncwannabe
 


Welturn card, need hardware instructions

cousineaumathieu@...
 

Hi, guys, I have a welturn card that id like to install and it did come with a 10 pages installation instructions but I lost it while moving my shop twice. Would anybody around here have a copy or can scan the original documents ?

thank you very very much
Matt aka Imsolathe


Welturn card, need hardware instructions

cousineaumathieu@...
 

Hi guys, I have a welturn card but no hardware installation documents, I know it did came with a 10 pages document, which I have lost while moving my shop twice. Can anybody scan the document ?

I would greatly appreciate it. 

Thank you 

Matt aka Imsolathe


Re: Files Needed!

Constantine Christophi
 

I've checked the optical sensors, it's all very clean but I cleaned it again anyway. I need to remove it properly and meter the sensors but I don't have time to do that until next week. I do get a sensor error with the sensors removed so it's possible the sensors are working? I'll email you the MSD.


Re: Files Needed!

michel@...
 

Okay. If I am getting you right: The tool turret does find it index position. If you try to change the tool now nothing happens (even no alarm messages occurs) but the tool number in the display does change?

I had various problems with tool changers. Most of the problems had to do with the position sensors. You can open the cover on the right side of the tool turret (where the cables come out). Underneath is the tool turret controller. On this controller are 4 photoelectric barriers. Maybe there is some dirt in between or one of them has a malfunction. It is recommandable to dismount it, clean it up and have another check.

It would be helpfull if you could send me your machine data. I also had a failure where the wrong tool turret was choosen. 


Re: Files Needed!

Constantine Christophi
 

I think the problem is mechanical. If I take the tool turret off, I can see it turning in reverse and I get a "6040 Tool Turret Index Failure". If I put it on (even loosely), it indexes and then no tool changes.


Re: Files Needed!

michel@...
 

Yeah! Sounds great!

That is the point where the Wincfg gets interesting. Just start the "WinConfig for WinNC32 MaL". Then click on the gear. If you only installed the software for your lathe it automatically opens the machine data of your lathe. Otherwise you have to choose it over the menus. Now you go to the point "activate accessories". This point is accessible without a password. Then just tick the point "Tool turret". You need to make shure that WinConfig is thinking that you have a floppy drive with the machine data floppy in it. Otherwise it is not possible to save the changes in that easy way.

Hope for the best!


Re: Files Needed!

Constantine Christophi
 

Hi Michel

The machine is running! I can use almost all the functions now. 

The only thing that doesn't seem to operate is the tool changer. I have tried M6;Tx, just Tx, the display changes but the tool does not rotate. The manual I have does not have M code for tool changes.

Thanks!


Re: Files Needed!

michel@...
 

This is great! Maybe, if you did not have done it already, it is worth to have a look into the control box at the backside of the machines. It is very common to store the floppy disk with the MSD on it there.

Regarding the Wincfg: this is the place where you can change you machine parameters but you need to have the MSD to change them. So you are not able to create them with Wincfg.


Re: Files Needed!

Constantine Christophi
 

Hi Michel

I have the MSD for the Turn 120 from Emco, they are in the process of getting me the MSD for the Mill 100. I used the "SUPERVISOR" password in Wincfg though and it appears I might be able to create my own MSD from there?

Thanks
Conners


Re: Files Needed!

michel@...
 

Hello,

do you have a floppy or anything else with the machine data on it?

Win98 SE is perfect because it is the latest Windows operating system, which can run the WinNC software =)

The Wincfg gets interesting when the machine works. Just let me know want you want to do, I try to help.


Re: Files Needed!

g d
 

I wish I went with a Centroid retro fit .I'm using a cnc4pc M16 and a Pokeys 57e so they both have their own software that has to work Mach its a big circle of who's problem is it .Machine runs and the tool chager works but not as well as I would like .

On Tuesday, June 16, 2020, 11:52:44 AM CDT, Constantine Christophi <conners@...> wrote:


Hi Michel!

So I am using the AC88 software from this group, there is no installation, it's just drag and drop so it only has Mill50 and Fan0.m folders with it. I also have a 5 floppy set up from this group, I believe it is AC95 so may not even work with my machine, but the first disk gives me a licence error and quits without even asking for the MSD. I'm using disk images on a USB flashfloppy emulator.

With the AC88 from the downloads section, it boots into Fanuc and immediately alarms out, maybe because it's expecting a Mill 50!

I still need to figure out how to use Wincfg to set up the machine too.

I am running Win 98 SE on the original PC.

Arjan, thanks, that seems to be siemens setup though, I'm looking for Fanuc.

G d, I agree, I'm much more familiar with Fanuc. It's the reason why I want to have both these machines running on original controls rather than a Centroid retrofit.


Re: Files Needed!

Constantine Christophi
 

Hi Michel!

So I am using the AC88 software from this group, there is no installation, it's just drag and drop so it only has Mill50 and Fan0.m folders with it. I also have a 5 floppy set up from this group, I believe it is AC95 so may not even work with my machine, but the first disk gives me a licence error and quits without even asking for the MSD. I'm using disk images on a USB flashfloppy emulator.

With the AC88 from the downloads section, it boots into Fanuc and immediately alarms out, maybe because it's expecting a Mill 50!

I still need to figure out how to use Wincfg to set up the machine too.

I am running Win 98 SE on the original PC.

Arjan, thanks, that seems to be siemens setup though, I'm looking for Fanuc.

G d, I agree, I'm much more familiar with Fanuc. It's the reason why I want to have both these machines running on original controls rather than a Centroid retrofit.


Re: Files Needed!

g d
 

I wish FANUC made a software that would work with my home made controller .I have worked on FANUC machines for many years and like there controls and interface . I have retro fitted a DYNA MYTE DM3000 and it uses Mach4 . Mach4 sucks .I am very jealous of you guys that get to use the OM interface to run your machines . 

On Tuesday, June 16, 2020, 10:27:15 AM CDT, arjan.dijk <arjan.dijk@...> wrote:


Maybe this helps you,  https://www.ebay.de/itm/283492876099 Its winnc of the age of your machine

Op di 16 jun. 2020 om 17:11 schreef <michel@...>:

Hello Constantine!

I set up a PC Turn 50 and a PC Mill 50 and I know that it is not that easy!

If I am getting i right, you would like to control both machines with 1 PC. So you have to do the installation 2 times.
First you install the software for your PC Mill 100 (the order of the machines does not matter). So you click on Fanuc 0 on the left side of the installation window and choose machinelicense on the right side then you click "Next" until you have to choose the machine data. (Pic. #1 & #2). Now to the folders you mentioned: The names of these folders are up to the machine data you choose during installation. So if you choose the machine data of your PC Mill 100, the folders are named Fan0.m and Mill100. If these folders have different names, your machine data are not the correct one. Same thing  for the PC Turn 120.

If you could do these steps and tell me your result, maybe I am able to give you further help.

Best wishes
Michel


Re: Files Needed!

arjan.dijk
 

Maybe this helps you,  https://www.ebay.de/itm/283492876099 Its winnc of the age of your machine

Op di 16 jun. 2020 om 17:11 schreef <michel@...>:

Hello Constantine!

I set up a PC Turn 50 and a PC Mill 50 and I know that it is not that easy!

If I am getting i right, you would like to control both machines with 1 PC. So you have to do the installation 2 times.
First you install the software for your PC Mill 100 (the order of the machines does not matter). So you click on Fanuc 0 on the left side of the installation window and choose machinelicense on the right side then you click "Next" until you have to choose the machine data. (Pic. #1 & #2). Now to the folders you mentioned: The names of these folders are up to the machine data you choose during installation. So if you choose the machine data of your PC Mill 100, the folders are named Fan0.m and Mill100. If these folders have different names, your machine data are not the correct one. Same thing  for the PC Turn 120.

If you could do these steps and tell me your result, maybe I am able to give you further help.

Best wishes
Michel


Re: Files Needed!

michel@...
 

Hello Constantine!

I set up a PC Turn 50 and a PC Mill 50 and I know that it is not that easy!

If I am getting i right, you would like to control both machines with 1 PC. So you have to do the installation 2 times.
First you install the software for your PC Mill 100 (the order of the machines does not matter). So you click on Fanuc 0 on the left side of the installation window and choose machinelicense on the right side then you click "Next" until you have to choose the machine data. (Pic. #1 & #2). Now to the folders you mentioned: The names of these folders are up to the machine data you choose during installation. So if you choose the machine data of your PC Mill 100, the folders are named Fan0.m and Mill100. If these folders have different names, your machine data are not the correct one. Same thing  for the PC Turn 120.

If you could do these steps and tell me your result, maybe I am able to give you further help.

Best wishes
Michel


Files Needed!

Constantine Christophi
 

Hi all, I've managed to get the AC88 WinNC to run on the PC, but I believe I need different folders. The folders supplied are Fan0.m, and Mill50. If you have them, please can you upload:

Fan0.t
Mill100
Turn120?

I would really appreciate it, I feel like I'm getting really close to getting my Mill 100 and Turn 120 up and running.

On the Turn, WinNC boots up and immediately alarms out with x/y/z axis not ready, but on the Mill it has a different alarm, so I think it's looking for the above folders.


Re: Seeking manual for 220p

David Rabenius
 

Ned:
  Type in EMCO 220p internet search. There is a company that has brochures, manuals, etc that you can download. There may be a guy who scans and repro's manuals for many machines. Check ebay or it may pop up on a internet search.