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Re: WINNC software

@Travis_S
 

Would you be willing to post picures of your install directory of WinNC and associated subdirectories? A picture of the serial number request screen would be great as well. I think this is dumb software, meaning it is looking for a code to unlock that it does not 
register online or anything. With your pics, I can look through my install for a key.

Re: WINNC software

arjan.dijk
 

I'm not sure what WinNC you are looking for, but I have a hard time to activate the winNC installs I have here for the PC Turn 55. I have not had a confirmation that Siemens 840D works on that control.  Looking at this screenshot you can see PLC info for the mill 55/turn55 but not the 50
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If you find something, Im interested to

Arjan


Op zo 26 jan. 2020 om 01:15 schreef zsmithmx via Groups.Io <zsmithmx=me.com@groups.io>:

so i found the software in the files section. (sorry i didn't notice it). Now im on a mission for a serial number for winnc for a pcmill 50 and pcturn 50 with fanuc 0 control. Let me know if anyone has a serial number i can purchase from you. thanks

Re: WINNC software

David Rabenius
 

I believe you can call EMCO and they will give you WINNC, they may ask for your machine serial number to make sure that you get the correct version. If not then I have both mill & Lathe & WinCam. The software I have is on 3.5 floppies and I need to get a external floppy drive so I can save it on my harddrive.

Dave

Re: WINNC software

Zach Smith
 

so i found the software in the files section. (sorry i didn't notice it). Now im on a mission for a serial number for winnc for a pcmill 50 and pcturn 50 with fanuc 0 control. Let me know if anyone has a serial number i can purchase from you. thanks

WINNC software

Zach Smith
 

Hello all. I was curious if anyone has the WINNC software. I have the MSD files, just don’t have an installation file of WINNC as the drive is corrupted. I’ll gladly pay for it. Thank you. 

Re: Threading - no rpm in display

Jan
 

Thanks a lot, Dieter! I'll try with some adjustments to go with lower rpm.
The lathe was modified by the pre-owner, it has a servo-motor controlled by a frequency converter, but I can use the original pot for adjusting the spindle speed. Good thing, but probably this caused the loss of the indicator in cnc-mode. And maybe a bit too much power for this little lathe (2.2 kW...)
If it works with less speed I'll leave the electronics at the moment, just for safety reasons. But great info, thank you!

Jan

Re: Threading - no rpm in display

Dieter
 

Hello Jan,

Alarm 6 says "Spindle speed too high", it's described in the CNC 5 Manual.
Reduce the rpm and stay in CNC-mode and the threading works.

For the display in CNC-mode I had the same problem, but it's not a fault,
My machine was also configured without display in CNC-mode.

First you must have the DNC-board with the motor relay (you can see it below the connector on my picture)
and the CNC-HAND switch on the front-panel.
One must shift the plug for connector X61 on the DNC-board one position so that the plug is flush with pin 1.
I added a picture from my machine.

Be ware of mains potential on this connector, first unplug the mains.
No warranty if it works for you because there are differences from machine to machine.
Hope you don't blow up the electronics, do it at your own risks.

Dieter

Threading - no rpm in display

Jan
 

Gentlemen, I kindly ask for your support

My cnc 5 hangs, when the program reaches G78. In manual mode it shows rpm. When I switch from manual to cnc mode the indicator turns dark. Obviously it's because it cannot read the rpm. When I switch back to manual mode it starts cutting the thread, then alarm 6 is displayed.
Any suggestions or tips how I can solve this problem?

Thank you guys!

Jan

Re: Solved

David Rabenius
 

Glad to be able to help. Its been 12 or so years since I used my machine and at first it intimidated me. Once I got the hang of it I was off & running.

Dave

On Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 8:34:49 AM EST, <jonathanp51203@...> wrote:


so as David suggested, Freedos was not compatible with running the lathe software, My teacher provided me with a bunch of floppy drives and I was able to download Dos 6.22 and then the lathe software. Everything works and the machine spins! Thank you so much for the help, legacy software is confusing but it has its own logic. 

Solved

jonathanp51203@...
 

so as David suggested, Freedos was not compatible with running the lathe software, My teacher provided me with a bunch of floppy drives and I was able to download Dos 6.22 and then the lathe software. Everything works and the machine spins! Thank you so much for the help, legacy software is confusing but it has its own logic. 

Emco F1 Woodworker change of RPM

christoph.nissl@...
 

Hi All,
I've got an Emco F1 Woodworker in quite good condition. I assumed, that I just need to change the beltgears between electricmotor and spindle to change the ratio from 8000rpm to 2000rpm. Today I disassembled the millinghead and it comes out, that the drivegear from the electricmotor can be removed. But the small gear on the millingspindle looks like it's an integrated part, so It cant be changed.

I thought I read that It should be possible to change the two gears. Is there anybody who has changed the RPM at an F1 Woodworker successfully?

I would like to mill aluminium, but with a 4mm mill it's almost not possible due to weak spindle drive on the woodworker.

Looking forward hearing from you.

BR Chris

emcopctun sale or for parts

emco@...
 

I have emco  pcturn55 in a  perfect working order  hardly used updated already to latest win98 to accept flash usb,  am asking $2500 for the whole unit with pc,  if not sold within a week planning to convert it
to mach3 and keep it, if i keep it then plan to offer the PC complete with rs486 card with a;; the large  processing and controller boards at the back for $1000 obo, the machine located in summit Illinois zip 60501

Re: Emco isa card plus

Al Cost
 

I have an Emco 50 turn. I could use 


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On Friday, January 10, 2020, 9:56 AM, Dave Leer <gotof@...> wrote:

Hello, I had an Emco pc turn 50. I saw the lathe working when I bought it. In transportation the computer mother board failed. I converted the
lathe and gave it to my son. I kept the hard drive from the computer along with the 485 card and the MSD in both 3 1/2 and 5 1/4 floppies. I also have
what looks like MSD for the pc mill 50. I also have some open ring binders for training. I also have a GE Faunac series 0, Emco key board. I have no use
for these and I would like for someone in this group to use them. I am Cincinnati OH.
Have a great day
Jac

Emco F1 mill conversion

Dave Leer
 

Hello, I am looking to convert an Emco F1 mill.
Question 1.
What stepper power motors does this need, (volt/amp or torque?).
Question 2.
Has anyone used the Masso G3 controller, to convert an Emco CNC machine?
Thank you
Jac

Emco isa card plus

Dave Leer
 

Hello, I had an Emco pc turn 50. I saw the lathe working when I bought it. In transportation the computer mother board failed. I converted the
lathe and gave it to my son. I kept the hard drive from the computer along with the 485 card and the MSD in both 3 1/2 and 5 1/4 floppies. I also have
what looks like MSD for the pc mill 50. I also have some open ring binders for training. I also have a GE Faunac series 0, Emco key board. I have no use
for these and I would like for someone in this group to use them. I am Cincinnati OH.
Have a great day
Jac

Re: FreeDos installation help for Emco Lathe 2.8

jonathanp51203@...
 

Thank you for responding. 

Yes, I have the manual, but you may be right on the fact that freedos is non-compatible with the EMCO software. I am under the assumption that the hardware is perfectly well. I will try to install a pure dos 6.2 setup and upgrade to windows 98 since that is likely going to work out if anything else. 

When I boot up dos, it directs me to the C: drive, I navigate to the installation files and can install the files perfectly, I have used the Simulator which also runs properly, just running compact.exe seems to never run. Thank you for again for helping, I'll see to it tomorrow and give you an update.

Re: FreeDos installation help for Emco Lathe 2.8

David Rabenius
 

Here is the link for the manuals for the PC5. Go down t o the software section and it will describe the sequence to get into the software programming & running.


On Friday, January 10, 2020, 08:41:22 AM EST, David Rabenius via Groups.Io <swedeson2002@...> wrote:


You probably need to use Windows 98 or 2000 as XP sometimes is hard to boot into DOS. I think that your DOS is a shell and not compatible with the EMCO software. When you install the software are you getting the setup screens that you choose or just one screen. Some machines used a Dongle, there was also a article that allowed you to use Linux I believe with NO modifications to the machine. There was an article that had you snip out the EPROM in Digital machinist magazine to run on Mach 3 DON’T DO THIS!!  As you will have to use separate CAD software program.

  When you boot up at the DOS prompt what do you get? You have to do several inputs  like CD \ , then CD EMCO, then EMCO  Compact, it will then  be good to go. I haven’t used this software in 12 years so I will have to check . Do you have a manual?, they are online and it will tell you. If you want to run both Imperial & Metric programs you have to have 2 different files like Compact & Compact M. The Metric measurement will give you .0005 & the Imperial will give you .001. Either way the Lathe is a great little machine.

   If  he software runs fine maybe you could reconfigure the PC with 98 or dual boot. If your just using the PC for the Lathe then just run Windows 98 or 2000. The Lathe software is fine for the machine. The only hassle with that control software is threading, rest work s great.

  I had a PC5 years ago and made TONS of parts on it, just found another one. Getting a 98 computer is easy as MANY CNC machines still use DOS, Craigslist Raleigh usually has  a seller that has these for sale.

 

Dave

 

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Re: FreeDos installation help for Emco Lathe 2.8

David Rabenius
 

You probably need to use Windows 98 or 2000 as XP sometimes is hard to boot into DOS. I think that your DOS is a shell and not compatible with the EMCO software. When you install the software are you getting the setup screens that you choose or just one screen. Some machines used a Dongle, there was also a article that allowed you to use Linux I believe with NO modifications to the machine. There was an article that had you snip out the EPROM in Digital machinist magazine to run on Mach 3 DON’T DO THIS!!  As you will have to use separate CAD software program.

  When you boot up at the DOS prompt what do you get? You have to do several inputs  like CD \ , then CD EMCO, then EMCO  Compact, it will then  be good to go. I haven’t used this software in 12 years so I will have to check . Do you have a manual?, they are online and it will tell you. If you want to run both Imperial & Metric programs you have to have 2 different files like Compact & Compact M. The Metric measurement will give you .0005 & the Imperial will give you .001. Either way the Lathe is a great little machine.

   If  he software runs fine maybe you could reconfigure the PC with 98 or dual boot. If your just using the PC for the Lathe then just run Windows 98 or 2000. The Lathe software is fine for the machine. The only hassle with that control software is threading, rest work s great.

  I had a PC5 years ago and made TONS of parts on it, just found another one. Getting a 98 computer is easy as MANY CNC machines still use DOS, Craigslist Raleigh usually has  a seller that has these for sale.

 

Dave

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

FreeDos installation help for Emco Lathe 2.8

jonathanp51203@...
 

Hello, I am a high school student who was asked by my teacher to revive a Compact 5 PC machine. Keeping it short, the machine is fine but the computer running it died.

Using a new PC I was able to make a USB Bootable version of MS-Dos using FreeDos, I can run the I.exe file to install and write (This worked on all versions of the installation file) but I cannot run the Compact.exe. I was able to run a bunch of other files as well except any version of the Compact.exe file. 

Do I need to install the Compact Software with some additional drivers or tools? or does the medium require a floppy drive to install properly? Sorry if anything I say is a little bit short sided, the software I am trying to use is older than I am. Thank you for any help, I am open to any ideas.

For a bit more specifics

Hardware : Intel Pentium 4, Windows XP HP Compaq dc5100 SFF, Emco 5 Compact PC

Software : EMCO Lathe 2.5, FreeDos (latest)

Re: Lecteur mini cassette

mycroft@cix.co.uk
 

Here are translations into English of the two French language messages:

Good morning all,

I just bought a VMC 100 TM02 milling machine the face of the calculator had to be changed because it is equipped with a floppy drive while the MSD data of my machine is saved on a mini cassette.
Following the loss of MSD data from the milling machine and not having a floppy disk to reprogram the machine, I bought an EMCO mini cassette player in order to recover the MSD data saved on the mini cassette.
The mini cassette player connections are different from the floppy drive.
Does anyone have information to make this change?
cordially
Olivier


Hello
 I recently had the same machine N ° F1SF3F5019 and the label for the TM02 command was torn off, I would like to help you but it also included a floppy drive which was dismantled, only the serial link was used. I saw a backup of the parameters on this forum, did you try to enter them manually? I have the electrical plans.
Cordially.
Jacques.