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Re: Fanuc 0T and 0M WinNC software?

Constantine Christophi
 

I’m not sure what you mean by AC88?

 

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From: arjan.dijk
Sent: 23 May 2020 13:25
To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] Fanuc 0T and 0M WinNC software?

 

Are you looking for ac88? That might be hard to find. I only have wincam for that 

 

Op vr 22 mei 2020 14:00 schreef Constantine Christophi <conners@...>:

Hi

 

Does anyone have copies of WinNC Fanuc 0T and Fanuc 0M for Windows 98?

 

Emco are currently looking for me but not having a lot of luck but if they find them I’ll upload them to the files parts of this group.

 

I’ve got a PC Turn 120 and PC Mill 100, I have a copy of WinNC Fanuc 21T from that youtube video, I’m installing Windows 98 today on the Turn to see if I can get it up and running.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

 
Re: Fanuc 0T and 0M WinNC software?

arjan.dijk
 

Are you looking for ac88? That might be hard to find. I only have wincam for that 

Op vr 22 mei 2020 14:00 schreef Constantine Christophi <conners@...>:

Hi

 

Does anyone have copies of WinNC Fanuc 0T and Fanuc 0M for Windows 98?

 

Emco are currently looking for me but not having a lot of luck but if they find them I’ll upload them to the files parts of this group.

 

I’ve got a PC Turn 120 and PC Mill 100, I have a copy of WinNC Fanuc 21T from that youtube video, I’m installing Windows 98 today on the Turn to see if I can get it up and running.

 

Thanks in advance!
Re: Fanuc 0T and 0M WinNC software?

Baschwar@
 

Some software is here in the group files: 
https://groups.io/g/Emco-CNC-Users/filessearch?q=winnc
Fanuc 0T and 0M WinNC software?

Constantine Christophi
 

Hi

 

Does anyone have copies of WinNC Fanuc 0T and Fanuc 0M for Windows 98?

 

Emco are currently looking for me but not having a lot of luck but if they find them I’ll upload them to the files parts of this group.

 

I’ve got a PC Turn 120 and PC Mill 100, I have a copy of WinNC Fanuc 21T from that youtube video, I’m installing Windows 98 today on the Turn to see if I can get it up and running.

 

Thanks in advance!
Re: How to install ACC on PCMIll55

arjan.dijk
 

So I paid less then 1/10 of that amount, so I would give it a go. I will ask if emco has something. I hoped it was pretty much plug and play

Arjan

Op wo 20 mei 2020 om 22:44 schreef David Rabenius via groups.io <swedeson2002=yahoo.com@groups.io>:

That was a custom upgrade done by EMCO. The cost was $5,K and few were done. EMCO did have some documentation on this retrofit. It is the same basic circuitry that was inside the later Concept mill series machines. You still need a Ethernet cable to a PC with your control software. I had one of these machines but sold it. A  complete overhaul with modern components would be better.
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 12:23:52 PM EDT, arjan.dijk <arjan.dijk@...> wrote:


I got a ACC unit from ebay that came from a mill55, now I want to put it in my mill and treplace the AC95. Where should I start? What do I need to consider? Any manuals available?

arjan

Re: How to install ACC on PCMIll55

David Rabenius
 

That was a custom upgrade done by EMCO. The cost was $5,K and few were done. EMCO did have some documentation on this retrofit. It is the same basic circuitry that was inside the later Concept mill series machines. You still need a Ethernet cable to a PC with your control software. I had one of these machines but sold it. A  complete overhaul with modern components would be better.

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 12:23:52 PM EDT, arjan.dijk <arjan.dijk@...> wrote:


I got a ACC unit from ebay that came from a mill55, now I want to put it in my mill and treplace the AC95. Where should I start? What do I need to consider? Any manuals available?

arjan

How to install ACC on PCMIll55

arjan.dijk
 

I got a ACC unit from ebay that came from a mill55, now I want to put it in my mill and treplace the AC95. Where should I start? What do I need to consider? Any manuals available?

arjan
Re: Help needed for newbie!

JDT
 

Thank you very much for good information. I will apply your suggestions and hope for success.

JDZt

On May 19, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Dieter <@_Dieter_> wrote:

Hello JDT

link of motor controller and digital speed readout:

https://groups.io/g/Emco-CNC-Users/files/Emco5cnc%20Original%20circuits

The readout is completely separated from the motor controller,so it still works.

If your machine has the MAN - CNC switch, look here at first, I had sometimes problems when switching the motor in manual mode,
I had to switch back and forth to make the motor running. Perhaps the overload has damaged the switch.
(The motor controller has an overload protection, normally there should be no overload, but with the motor completely stalled you never know)
Verify also the wiring, the plugs are often weak.
Try with M03 in CNC mode (if you have the DNC board with the big relay)
If the problem persist it's either the controller or the motor.
Download all schematics and documentations for Compact 5 CNC from the "Files" section.
There is a good troubleshooting document from EMCO which describes the diagnostic and repairing, except repairing the boards.
With the schematics you can try to repair or look for a replacement, people often sell the old boards when upgrading.
But be ware, there is mains potential on the controller circuit on every component, it's not trivial to make diagnostics.
One must remove the board and test on the workbench with greatest caution.

Dieter
Re: Help needed for newbie!

Dieter
 

Hello JDT

link of motor controller and digital speed readout:

https://groups.io/g/Emco-CNC-Users/files/Emco5cnc%20Original%20circuits

The readout is completely separated from the motor controller,so it still works.

If your machine has the MAN - CNC switch, look here at first, I had sometimes problems when switching the motor in manual mode,
I had to switch back and forth to make the motor running. Perhaps the overload has damaged the switch.
(The motor controller has an overload protection, normally there should be no overload, but with the motor completely stalled you never know)
Verify also the wiring, the plugs are often weak.
Try with M03 in CNC mode (if you have the DNC board with the big relay)
If the problem persist it's either the controller or the motor.
Download all schematics and documentations for Compact 5 CNC from the "Files" section.
There is a good troubleshooting document from EMCO which describes the diagnostic and repairing, except repairing the boards.
With the schematics you can try to repair or look for a replacement, people often sell the old boards when upgrading.
But be ware, there is mains potential on the controller circuit on every component, it's not trivial to make diagnostics.
One must remove the board and test on the workbench with greatest caution.

Dieter
Help needed for newbie!

JDT
 

 

My first post. Thank you for your patience and tolerance of my level of information.

 

That said, I have a 2nd generation EMCO Compact 5 CNC Lathe w/ Milling attachment. Because I am new to it’s use,  so far I have operated both only in manual mode on a few small projects. However, this week while turning a piece (in manual mode) the piece came loose from the chuck and jammed the spindle briefly (about 3-4 seconds) before I could get the power off. I cleared the jam and switched the spindle back on, but it would only run at a low speed. I tried to increase the speed with the potentiometer and it would not change. Then, it began to run at a high speed that was also not responsive to the potentiometer, and finally stopped. I have not been able to get the spindle moving since. I checked all the fuses I could find and replaced the potentiometer to no avail.  When I turn the machine on, everything lights up including the speed display which shows tracking of the spindle turning when I spin it by hand. The tool holder and its mount move as usual with the keypad controls. The only physical damage I have noticed is what appears to be partially melted wiring insulation on both sides of the larger transformer.

 

Anybody had this experience or can suggest what I need to do look for? I have only a small amount of experience with inspection, testing, and repair of circuit boards and components, so thought I would post here before resorting to find someone to come take a look at it.

 

Thank you for any thoughts!

 

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Re: Hard Drive Image for PC Turn 50

Baschwar@
 

So far I have not heard from anyone else. However my son’s friend is working on rebuilding a computer For it. I’ll let you know how that goes. 

Thank you for the offer, 

Brad 


On May 6, 2020, at 12:09 AM, arjan.dijk <arjan.dijk@...> wrote:


If you find no one else I can take a look. I'm not at home for the next week so if someone is faster that might be a quicker way

Arjan 

Op wo 6 mei 2020 00:17 schreef <baschwar@...>:

Would anyone have the means to image their working Win98 hard drive for a PC Turn 50? 

I have one that has a dead hard drive and I have tried several alternatives to get the computer working again and all have been unsuccessful. 

So... I'd be willing to get another IDE drive and ship it to someone who could clone their working drive or provide online storage space to drop an image onto. 
I'd like to avoid a retrofit if all the hardware can work together as originally designed. 
Otherwise, might be time to find it a new home instead of my garage floor! 
Re: compact 5 cnc tool change HELP

Dieter
 

No , M06 is the instruction for the toolturret, enter the offset values you have found with the appropriate direction (+ or -) ,
the toolnumber (number of indexes from the actual tool working) and that's it,
There is no difference having a manual toolholder or an automatic turret, the values to use for the M06 instructions are the same,
except for the automatic indexing.
The descriptions in the manuals are really good. By experimenting without a workpiece its trivial to find out the mode of operation.
Enter dummy values and run the M06 instructions and watch the movements of the tool to understand how it works,
I did the same when starting with the machine, there are no mysteries.

Dieter
Re: Hard Drive Image for PC Turn 50

arjan.dijk
 

If you find no one else I can take a look. I'm not at home for the next week so if someone is faster that might be a quicker way

Arjan 

Op wo 6 mei 2020 00:17 schreef <baschwar@...>:

Would anyone have the means to image their working Win98 hard drive for a PC Turn 50? 

I have one that has a dead hard drive and I have tried several alternatives to get the computer working again and all have been unsuccessful. 

So... I'd be willing to get another IDE drive and ship it to someone who could clone their working drive or provide online storage space to drop an image onto. 
I'd like to avoid a retrofit if all the hardware can work together as originally designed. 
Otherwise, might be time to find it a new home instead of my garage floor! 
Hard Drive Image for PC Turn 50

Baschwar@
 

Would anyone have the means to image their working Win98 hard drive for a PC Turn 50? 

I have one that has a dead hard drive and I have tried several alternatives to get the computer working again and all have been unsuccessful. 

So... I'd be willing to get another IDE drive and ship it to someone who could clone their working drive or provide online storage space to drop an image onto. 
I'd like to avoid a retrofit if all the hardware can work together as originally designed. 
Otherwise, might be time to find it a new home instead of my garage floor! 
Re: compact 5 cnc tool change HELP

kennedymd@...
 




On Apr 27, 2020, at 12:45 AM, wmorfitt60@... wrote:

I have a compact 5 cnc for awhile (about 10 yrs and never used it ) and have never found out how to do a tool change with the tool  turret. I'm about ready to sell it because it's no good to me if I cant change tools. 
I understand how to set the RH turning tool but how do you reference the other tools from that one.
If I have a 1" dia part 1" out from the chuck and I scratch off on x and z set the  dro to zero for both x and z then bring my tool to positioned x 1000 z -1000 as a starting point (tool change position) .
 what do i do to set the next tool.
do I now reset the dro to zero in the new position or leave it set to x 1000 z-1000?
I rotate the turret to the next tool.
then scratch the part with that tool and write down the the number on the dro after the move?
go back to the tool change position and do it all for the next tool?
do I use G90 G 92 or G 91 to set things up?
                                                                                     thanks for the help Im very lost and confused 
                                                                                                                                          Bill

Re: compact 5 cnc tool change HELP

gabbeon@...
 

I recommend ukmwg-s Youtube channel. https://www.youtube.com/user/ukmwg/videos 
Re: compact 5 cnc tool change HELP

Richard Engbersen
 

I second that following those M06 instructions makes my C5 CNC tool changer works flawlessly.

Cheers,
Richard

Op ma 27 apr. 2020 om 17:13 schreef Dieter <d.kirchesch@...>

Hello,

First download all files related to the Compact 5 CNC in the "Files Section" and read them carefully, everything is well explained.
There is a chapter "Positioning of toolholder" about  tool offsets in the operating manual.

The instruction M06     T ool.Number    X-Value     Z-Value     make the offsets of the tool you measured before.

Dieter
Re: compact 5 cnc tool change HELP

@harvard5
 

none of the manuals I have explaine the tool turret
Re: compact 5 cnc tool change HELP

@harvard5
 

I have the manuals but still dont understand how to set the tools
Re: compact 5 cnc tool change HELP

Dieter
 

Hello,

First download all files related to the Compact 5 CNC in the "Files Section" and read them carefully, everything is well explained.
There is a chapter "Positioning of toolholder" about tool offsets in the operating manual.

The instruction M06 T ool.Number X-Value Z-Value make the offsets of the tool you measured before.

Dieter