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Re: I just purchased a EMCO PC Turn 55 cnc lathe. I have not picked it up yet but the former owner tells me that he purchased it from a Vo/Tech school but It does not have the PC or a program. Where can I find the control program?
Tim Boan
Thanks for your reply. As I stated, I know Centoid has a conversational mode. When building a multipart project it is useful to be able to develop and assemble all the parts in CAD, then move them to CAM. For cylindrical parts it just makes it easier to be able to generate G code from the CAD/CAM package. Also as pointed out some parts, with spiral features are very difficult to produce in conversational mode. Tim
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 9:56 AM <finistairsoft@...> wrote: We are talking about lathe, not milling machine. So no need of CAM processing, centroid has a conversationnal program. CNC turning don't need (except some parts very sophisticated) CAM software. I'm conventionnal and CN machinist on lathe, it's my job.
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Re: Trying again to run Emco PC Turn 55 having issues
INN.MILL
Hello @clpeDev,
I have AC95 (Y4B 091 000), the machine is a EMCO PC MILL 155.....do you experience about this? Thanks
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Re: I just purchased a EMCO PC Turn 55 cnc lathe. I have not picked it up yet but the former owner tells me that he purchased it from a Vo/Tech school but It does not have the PC or a program. Where can I find the control program?
finistairsoft@...
We are talking about lathe, not milling machine. So no need of CAM processing, centroid has a conversationnal program. CNC turning don't need (except some parts very sophisticated) CAM software. I'm conventionnal and CN machinist on lathe, it's my job.
For a milling machine, of course it is useful. (complex forms, adaptative clearing, 3D milling...)
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Re: I just purchased a EMCO PC Turn 55 cnc lathe. I have not picked it up yet but the former owner tells me that he purchased it from a Vo/Tech school but It does not have the PC or a program. Where can I find the control program?
Tim Boan
Now as I'm new to the Emco CNC line, take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt. I have a PC 55 lathe working with an old computer running W98 and WinCAM. My fear is when the PC ultimately gives up the ghost replacing it with a new computer that has an ISA/EISA slot could be fairly expensive in the scheme of things. Several companies manufacture motherboards/machines with this legacy capability. Cost $800 to $1500. An alternative is retrofit/conversion. There are several companies that have boards/kits to do this. Before acquiring my PC 55 lathe, I researched this option in case the machine was incomplete or the electronics had failed. The core iron of these machines is fairly bulletproof and should last for decades. I was most impressed with the Centroid Acorn product. Centroid has an extensive history of providing control electronics/software for large CNC machines. When one compares the cost of converting the machine to the Centroid product, steppers/syncros, NEMA 17 adapter plates, motor drivers, Acorn board, spindle encoder, use of an existing Windows 10 PC and upgraded Centroid control software the cost falls around the upper limit of purchasing a new PC with the legacy ISA/EISA slot. This does not take into account what one could recoup by selling the Emco control electronics that are replaced in the conversion including the RS422 communication board. The only problem with this approach is finding a CAM package that has a Centroid Acorn postprocessor. I understand, maybe wrongly, that Fusion 360 has one. However, with the recent licensing change from Autodesk, the hobbyist (free) version of Fusion 360 does not allow for tool changes. One has to assemble the G code from each operation manually. Also, I have found Fusion 360 to be a bit enigmatic at times, but I'm not a CAD/CAM professional. I have an educational license for Solidworks, but have not been able to locate a Centroid Acorn postprocessor for Solidworks CAM yet. I think there are other Linux options, but I have not had time to explore those yet. And yes I know you can use the Centroid software in conversational mode. My long term plan is to convert to the Centroid Acorn controller both for a PC 55 lathe as well as a PC 55 mill. Any comments are welcome - just no flames. Tim
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 8:39 AM arjan.dijk <arjan.dijk@...> wrote:
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Re: Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe G Codes
Tim Boan
Yep, WinCAM. Thanks, you confirmed my fears. I do have the Fanuc 0 control panel that's uninstalled. As I noticed in the documentation for that, there is a list of supported codes. I guess I'll get around to trying to install that. Fortunately, I think I have all the installation software diskettes. Tim
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 4:14 AM arjan.dijk <arjan.dijk@...> wrote:
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Re: I just purchased a EMCO PC Turn 55 cnc lathe. I have not picked it up yet but the former owner tells me that he purchased it from a Vo/Tech school but It does not have the PC or a program. Where can I find the control program?
arjan.dijk
If possible I would go for a replacement RS422 card (or ask the school for the original). The benefit of retrofitting is limited for the 2 axis lathe. Windows 98 takes usb, wincam and other controls are able to load Gcode and there is no real addon I can think of the requires retrofit. So save yourself a lot of time and effort and find a RS422. People here can help you with the software. Arjan Op zo 24 jan. 2021 06:56 schreef David Rabenius <taborboy78@...>:
Ever think of getting in touch with the Instructor at the school to see if they could locate the RS422 card & hard drive\computer?? could be worth the shot.
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Re: Trying again to run Emco PC Turn 55 having issues
@clpeDev
Do you have ACC or AC95 installed?
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Re: Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe G Codes
arjan.dijk
What software are you using? It depends on that. For Wincam there is no list Op za 23 jan. 2021 22:32 schreef Tim Boan <tcboan@...>:
Hi. Does anybody have a list, or can point me to the documentation, of the supported G codes when the lathe is run in the Emco55 mode.
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Re: I just purchased a EMCO PC Turn 55 cnc lathe. I have not picked it up yet but the former owner tells me that he purchased it from a Vo/Tech school but It does not have the PC or a program. Where can I find the control program?
David Rabenius
Ever think of getting in touch with the Instructor at the school to see if they could locate the RS422 card & hard drive\computer?? could be worth the shot.
Dave
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Re: I just purchased a EMCO PC Turn 55 cnc lathe. I have not picked it up yet but the former owner tells me that he purchased it from a Vo/Tech school but It does not have the PC or a program. Where can I find the control program?
marty_in_mesa
Chris, the benefit of updating to a modern control will be the ease of which you are able to interact with the user interface. The ability to load your parts via USB thumbdrive, and better G code compatibility. I have retrofitted about a dozen of these machines. The users have been very happy with them. But you can expect to spend as much or more than you paid for the machine. Because it has a tool changer on it, that made the buy a little better. Good luck with your project! Marty
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 2:55 PM Chris Thompson <thompsonpens8248@...> wrote: I accidently purchased this machine not thinking my bib would win. That being said, it is paid for and now I need to get it working. I have a doctors degree in The Administration of Vo/Tec Ed. therefore I do have a few connections in the machine shop. However, this little machine can be very nice in my shop. I am new to this group, am old, and not very computer up to date. I plan to pick the machine up, find the parts and get it running in my shop. You guys are being very helpful. I believe that I still have a computer in storage that runs Windows 98. Some in this group seem to be saying that I need to completely upgrade the machine, others, I just need a few changes or items and it should be usable. I guess that I will get it in hand and go from there. I don't need a large cnc with which to turn pens. I have a friend who is a machinist that writes code. He will be hired to write code for all my pen designs and perhaps even teach this old dog new tricks.
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Re: I just purchased a EMCO PC Turn 55 cnc lathe. I have not picked it up yet but the former owner tells me that he purchased it from a Vo/Tech school but It does not have the PC or a program. Where can I find the control program?
Chris Thompson
Thank you for the information. Understanding what I have and what is needed to make it work, do you suggest that the project is worth completing?
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Re: I just purchased a EMCO PC Turn 55 cnc lathe. I have not picked it up yet but the former owner tells me that he purchased it from a Vo/Tech school but It does not have the PC or a program. Where can I find the control program?
Chris Thompson
Perhaps I will once I get the machine in hand. Thank you.
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Re: I just purchased a EMCO PC Turn 55 cnc lathe. I have not picked it up yet but the former owner tells me that he purchased it from a Vo/Tech school but It does not have the PC or a program. Where can I find the control program?
Chris Thompson
I accidently purchased this machine not thinking my bib would win. That being said, it is paid for and now I need to get it working. I have a doctors degree in The Administration of Vo/Tec Ed. therefore I do have a few connections in the machine shop. However, this little machine can be very nice in my shop. I am new to this group, am old, and not very computer up to date. I plan to pick the machine up, find the parts and get it running in my shop. You guys are being very helpful. I believe that I still have a computer in storage that runs Windows 98. Some in this group seem to be saying that I need to completely upgrade the machine, others, I just need a few changes or items and it should be usable. I guess that I will get it in hand and go from there. I don't need a large cnc with which to turn pens. I have a friend who is a machinist that writes code. He will be hired to write code for all my pen designs and perhaps even teach this old dog new tricks.
Thanks for any help this group can provide. Chris Thompson Thompson Pens
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Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe G Codes
Tim Boan
Hi. Does anybody have a list, or can point me to the documentation, of the supported G codes when the lathe is run in the Emco55 mode.
I know buried in the Software Manual it says DIN/ISO 66025, but that seems a bit to inclusive. Thanks Tim
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Re: I just purchased a EMCO PC Turn 55 cnc lathe. I have not picked it up yet but the former owner tells me that he purchased it from a Vo/Tech school but It does not have the PC or a program. Where can I find the control program?
@clpeDev
If this machine is not for sale, but for myself, I recommend upgrading it to modern control systems.
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Re: I just purchased a EMCO PC Turn 55 cnc lathe. I have not picked it up yet but the former owner tells me that he purchased it from a Vo/Tech school but It does not have the PC or a program. Where can I find the control program?
@clpeDev
Your machine has AC 95 installed. You need a PC with an ISA slot, Windows 95, MS disk, ISA card RS422/CAN
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Re: I just purchased a EMCO PC Turn 55 cnc lathe. I have not picked it up yet but the former owner tells me that he purchased it from a Vo/Tech school but It does not have the PC or a program. Where can I find the control program?
Tim Boan
Hi, this machine is just down the road from me in Sterling Virginia (about 20 miles to the southeast). I was going to bid at $800 and use it for spare parts for my recently acquired PC 55 lathe. Without a PC with and ISA slot and the R422/485 interface card it's kinda useless without complete retrofit. I'm midly surprised it went for as much as it did. Tim
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 10:46 AM Chris Thompson <thompsonpens8248@...> wrote: I have not picked up the machine yet. I am in Oklahoma and it is in Virginia. I bought it on ebay just two days ago. One may be able to see pics on ebay. Maybe. I will try to get the seller to send me pics and then I will post them to the group. Thanks for your help. C.T.
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Re: Trying again to run Emco PC Turn 55 having issues
INN.MILL
Hello everyone...
User0n3, after a long time, did you find the problem? I am in the same situation... I would be very grateful for any help Have a nice day.
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Re: I just purchased a EMCO PC Turn 55 cnc lathe. I have not picked it up yet but the former owner tells me that he purchased it from a Vo/Tech school but It does not have the PC or a program. Where can I find the control program?
Chris Thompson
Tulsa, Oklahoma
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Re: I just purchased a EMCO PC Turn 55 cnc lathe. I have not picked it up yet but the former owner tells me that he purchased it from a Vo/Tech school but It does not have the PC or a program. Where can I find the control program?
Chris Thompson
The machine # A6P311001 Ser.No. A6P V01, Fabr.No. A6P 1136 14, Year 2000
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 9:46 AM Chris Thompson via groups.io <thompsonpens8248=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote: I have not picked up the machine yet. I am in Oklahoma and it is in Virginia. I bought it on ebay just two days ago. One may be able to see pics on ebay. Maybe. I will try to get the seller to send me pics and then I will post them to the group. Thanks for your help. C.T.
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