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Emco 5 CNC turret won't index

Robert Pace
 

I'm a newbie to CNC I just purchased a Emco Compact 5 CNC. I'm learning to use it. I found that in manual mode that when you Press a number 1-6 plus FWD the tool changer cycles the correct number but will not rotate the tool changer it moves a little but not all the way.I took motor apart and it is turning counter clockwise all the time when you press a number plus fwd in manual mode it reverse's one complete turn and than turns back. Any suggestions to fix?


Re: PC 55 mill

tedswef@...
 

Hi f1pmiller

I really appreciate all your advice and after much deliberation I'm going to follow your lead, obviously the cost of the card is pretty huge but after looking at the way the machine and controls are constructed I just can't bring myself to rip it all out, it really is like new. I could buy all the control required for the conversion for about half the cost but like you say it will always be prone to glitches and I'm certainly no EC&I wizard. I also have the original WinNC software, it's this area that I'm really unsure about too, there seems to be a few combinations of CAD & CAM software being used, I have used AutoCAD LT for many years and would like to stick to this for creating the dxf files (if possible), I take it that the WinNC software allows the lines of code to be constructed and entered manually and also provides the CAM conversion element too, have I understood that correctly? ie. you're using Rhino 4 & Welmill, whereas I could potentially use AutoCAD & WinNC  I've also spoken to Emco UK who were very helpful, there is a modern day upgrade that can be supplied but it's priced at around £4500. I think the easiest and quickest way forward is to get hold of an old PC and buy the interface card, I don't think my cnc requirements would be pushing mach 3 to it's limits anyway.

Thanks again

Phil

Re: After 26 years.. i got my own..

Jan Binnendijk
 

http://www.camiresearch.com/Data_Com_Basics/Screen_Shots/4_DB25F-DB9M-S9S.gif

I used this diagram to connect a 25 pins SubD Female to a 9 Pins SubD female, hooked it up to the machine on the 25 pin end, and to the PC on the 9 pin end.. and.. guess what?.. both the PC and CNC now happily communicate

i really never thougt it was that easy..since i remember the horror with other machines.. like the little brother HS 100 Wire erosion machine.. or the Fagor 800 an 8050 CNC lathe controls.. or.. even the Heidenhain TNC 420..they were nightmares to send and receive data..

Re: After 26 years.. i got my own..

Croonen
 

Hallo Jos

Ik ben straks een printje me voor jou PWM naar 10 Volt.
Ik bouw mijn draaibanken om met de Leafboy77 sturringen.

groetjes Benny


Op 29 mei 2014 12:06 schreef jan.binnendijk@... [Emco_cnc_users] <Emco_cnc_users@...>:

 

Jan is inderdaad "Arie Kabaalstra" op CNCzone ja.. Benny.. die naam heb ik ook eerder ergens horen vallen.. Is dat niet de Hobby-draadvonker?

't is een klein wereldje..
de reden dat ik de Kabel in orde wil hebben is dat ik er dan meteen ( na het maken van een programma ) mee aan de slag kan..

in de (nabije) toekomst gaat er EdingCNC op.. maar dat kost me nu te veel tijd.. ik moet meters maken.. dan kan ik op een later tijdstip de besturing ombouwen..


Re: After 26 years.. i got my own..

Jan Binnendijk
 

Jan is inderdaad "Arie Kabaalstra" op CNCzone ja.. Benny.. die naam heb ik ook eerder ergens horen vallen.. Is dat niet de Hobby-draadvonker?

't is een klein wereldje..
de reden dat ik de Kabel in orde wil hebben is dat ik er dan meteen ( na het maken van een programma ) mee aan de slag kan..

in de (nabije) toekomst gaat er EdingCNC op.. maar dat kost me nu te veel tijd.. ik moet meters maken.. dan kan ik op een later tijdstip de besturing ombouwen..

Re: After 26 years.. i got my own..

Jos Raven
 

Benny en Jan (Arie?)

De oude besturing ligt er helemaal uit.
Een nieuwe 3-fasen motor met Omron VFD gaat erin.

Een parallel BOB voor Mach3 en een PWM om 0-10Volt te maken voor de Omron.

Het is te lang geleden dat ik met de originele software heb gewerkt.
Ook een tijdje met MFI maar ik herinner me geen details.

Tot vanavond Benny,

Jos
AKA Tatanka op CncZone.nl

Re: After 26 years.. i got my own..

Croonen
 

Ik heb er op de moment 4 Emco compact 5 lopen op Mach 3 en de volgende 2 zijn in aantocht om om te bouwen. 
Benny


2014-05-28 23:06 GMT+02:00 André andrebiest@... [Emco_cnc_users] <Emco_cnc_users@...>:

 

Ja, zal ik je morgen geven, ok?

Op 28 mei 2014 om 22:05 heeft "jan.binnendijk@... [Emco_cnc_users]" <Emco_cnc_users@...> het volgende geschreven:

 

Can Anyone point me in the right direction?..

if i'm right, the 25 Pin  Connector on my RS232 cable should be a 9 pin?..
is there a wiring diagram somewhere?


Re: PC 55 mill

f1pmiller
 

Phil I believe it needs win98 but im not sure if the newer cards are different in that regard, my friends is running 98.I would think it would work on XP and you could probably run it with win7 pro in 98 mode. I have a lot of old 98 programs I do this way, but im not sure on that software. Andrew would be who to ask, I know my friend and I both use Rhino 4.0 for cad and creating dxf files etc., and I import into a 98 laptop to run Welmill etc. with no problem. If all you need is a 98 pc and the card I'd go for it, you'll be surprised how nice a machine it is. 900.00 may seem like a lot but its well worth it, these machines were very expensive new and its a plug and play virtually bullet proof repair as compared to a retrofit you may have to tinker with all the time. I don't recall having heard of any real issues on the pc50's, pc55's series machines. For a floppy I'd get an external drive, maybe 15- 30  bucks on ebay as recall, I had to do the same at some point.

Re: PC 55 mill

tedswef@...
 

Hi f1pmiller

I got to have a good look at the machine this week, It would appear that I have everything other than the interface card. The machine is immaculate and it would certainly be shame remove all the original controls. I have contacted Andrew Manus as per your suggestion and he has a new stock of cards for $900, however I have read somewhere that the original cards will only run up to windows 98, do you know if the later cards are compatible with say XP and if they will run a newer CADCAM software? I have the original WinNC disks but will have to install a 3.5 inch floppy drive in order to use these.

Thanks

Phil

Re: After 26 years.. i got my own..

A v R
 

Ja, zal ik je morgen geven, ok?

Op 28 mei 2014 om 22:05 heeft "jan.binnendijk@... [Emco_cnc_users]" <Emco_cnc_users@...> het volgende geschreven:

 

Can Anyone point me in the right direction?..

if i'm right, the 25 Pin  Connector on my RS232 cable should be a 9 pin?..
is there a wiring diagram somewhere?

Re: After 26 years.. i got my own..

Jan Binnendijk
 

Can Anyone point me in the right direction?..

if i'm right, the 25 Pin  Connector on my RS232 cable should be a 9 pin?..
is there a wiring diagram somewhere?

Re: After 26 years.. i got my own..

Jeffrey Kratz
 

You need to look at the pin out for the lpt to the mill. I had to make up a new cable to be able to hook to the computer. I believe the info is in the file section.

Jeff K.

 

From: Emco_cnc_users@... [mailto:Emco_cnc_users@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:43 PM
To: Emco_cnc_users@...
Subject: RE: [Emco_cnc_users] After 26 years.. i got my own..

 

 

I already found that program.. looks great.. MFLink is also installed on my PC, but no communication yet..

does it have anything to do with my LPT being an ECP port?.. if so. i need to reset my bios i guess..

Re: Original Belts for Axis drives PC5

Tom Long
 

Thanks for the information Ed. I had my letters mixed up - they are MXL series - not XML. Knowing the series made it much easier to locate replacements.

We must have different belts as the 480 MXL is 60 teeth, while mine have 71 teeth.

I found some in the US at Stock Drive Products. Part number for the 71 tooth 3/8 inch wide Kevlar belt is A 6B16-071037 and they are under $5.00 each. The 48 tooth belt is A 6B16-048037.

Thanks again
Tom Long

Re: Original Belts for Axis drives PC5

hurtisover2011
 

I recently bought one from the EMCOgroup (tel 023-9263-7100) for £11.40 including p+p. The emco part no is ZRM734805.
The info on the new belt is ; GATES 480 MXL S500AG.

On 28 May 2014 00:12, "tomcc@... [Emco_cnc_users]" <Emco_cnc_users@...> wrote:
 

Does anyone know the size the original drive belts on the X and Z axis drives.  I measured them at 10 mm wide , 71 teeth.  They appear to be XML series, but they measure 2mm versus the 2.032 spec for XML belts.
Also, a source of replacement belts would be really helpful.
Thanks in advance.
Tom Long


Original Belts for Axis drives PC5

Tom Long
 

Does anyone know the size the original drive belts on the X and Z axis drives.  I measured them at 10 mm wide , 71 teeth.  They appear to be XML series, but they measure 2mm versus the 2.032 spec for XML belts.
Also, a source of replacement belts would be really helpful.
Thanks in advance.
Tom Long


Re: After 26 years.. i got my own..

Jan Binnendijk
 

I already found that program.. looks great.. MFLink is also installed on my PC, but no communication yet..

does it have anything to do with my LPT being an ECP port?.. if so. i need to reset my bios i guess..

Re: After 26 years.. i got my own..

Jeffrey Kratz
 

Jan,

 

Look at Mikes inter face in the file section.

 

Jeff K.

 

From: Emco_cnc_users@... [mailto:Emco_cnc_users@...]
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 3:33 PM
To: Emco_cnc_users@...
Subject: [Emco_cnc_users] After 26 years.. i got my own..

 

 

Hi all, let me first introduce myself,

Jan Binnendijk, living in the Netherlands, 26 years ago, still in school i had my first experience with CNC, with the Emco Compact 5 CNC, eversince i wanted one of my own..

And now.. i have one!.. bought it last friday.. put it in my workshop on saturday, and now i'm trying to find out how to transfer files between the lathe and a PC.. i have a Windows XP machine, that will be placed in the workshop, next to the Lathe.. the other PC i have in the shop, is mounted in the controllercabinet of the CNC milling machine i built myself some years ago.. that one runs on EdingCNC.

the Emco will most probably be converted to EdingCNC as well.. but before i do, i must first make a number of parts for a client.. ( in the mean time i will convert my other lathe to EdingCNC)

Greetings,

Jan

 

After 26 years.. i got my own..

Jan Binnendijk
 

Hi all, let me first introduce myself,

Jan Binnendijk, living in the Netherlands, 26 years ago, still in school i had my first experience with CNC, with the Emco Compact 5 CNC, eversince i wanted one of my own..

And now.. i have one!.. bought it last friday.. put it in my workshop on saturday, and now i'm trying to find out how to transfer files between the lathe and a PC.. i have a Windows XP machine, that will be placed in the workshop, next to the Lathe.. the other PC i have in the shop, is mounted in the controllercabinet of the CNC milling machine i built myself some years ago.. that one runs on EdingCNC.

the Emco will most probably be converted to EdingCNC as well.. but before i do, i must first make a number of parts for a client.. ( in the mean time i will convert my other lathe to EdingCNC)

Greetings,

Jan


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Roger <radiamond@...>
 

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Re: EMCO compact 5 CNC lathe

2rn@...
 

Hi guys, just want to let you know that meanwhile I bought an EMCO Compact 5 CNC lathe machine. It came 100% original, and runs flawlessly. I installed it next to my EMCO F1 CNC mill, and it looks like I bought them as a set, as they are both in Grey/Orange colour setting. Happy with it. In case anyone is interested I could post some picture let me know. Best regards, Richard