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Re: Giving away Emcotronic m1 from vmc-100

Sharp.Shooter
 

Thanks Ludvig, just the front panel. Motors are interesting too, but I am afraid that the DHL postage to Serbia would be enormous for them.

Cheers

Stefan

 

From: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io [mailto:Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ludvig Friberg
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 8:12 AM
To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] Giving away Emcotronic m1 from vmc-100

 

Ok I will take pictures of all the parts and see how big and heavy the box would be. Are you interested in the motors, crt screen?

 

Ludvig

 

Den ons 1 apr. 2020 kl 05:47 skrev Sharp.Shooter <stefan.cefi.kovacevic@...>:

I would be interested in front panel keypad, my is in a really bad shape Jof course if Hahn doesn’t need it, he answered first.

Thanks

Stefan

 

From: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io [mailto:Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ludvig Friberg
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 11:40 PM
To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] Giving away Emcotronic m1 from vmc-100

 

I can take some photos of the keypad. What do you mean with inside of the control? It is disassembled so a lot of cards in boxes. Do you have the name of the card you are looking for? The heavy metal case and all that is gone. I have all electronics here for a while now before I have to recycle that too.

 

 

 

Den tis 31 mars 2020 kl 23:00 skrev <hahn@...>:

Ludvig-

I'm super interested! Can you take a photo of the keypad and also the inside of the control so I can compare with what is on my 220p? Thanks!
Hahn Rossman
Rossmancycles.com


Re: Giving away Emcotronic m1 from vmc-100

Tony Schalburg <tonyschalburg@...>
 

Hi
I could use one of the circuit boards inside, its marked 23C.
It have 4 relays, 8 fuses on it. Its defect, the 1 i have, so my vmc100 is not working.
I live in denmark


Re: Giving away Emcotronic m1 from vmc-100

Ludvig Friberg
 

Ok I will take pictures of all the parts and see how big and heavy the box would be. Are you interested in the motors, crt screen?

Ludvig

Den ons 1 apr. 2020 kl 05:47 skrev Sharp.Shooter <stefan.cefi.kovacevic@...>:

I would be interested in front panel keypad, my is in a really bad shape Jof course if Hahn doesn’t need it, he answered first.

Thanks

Stefan

 

From: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io [mailto:Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ludvig Friberg
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 11:40 PM
To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] Giving away Emcotronic m1 from vmc-100

 

I can take some photos of the keypad. What do you mean with inside of the control? It is disassembled so a lot of cards in boxes. Do you have the name of the card you are looking for? The heavy metal case and all that is gone. I have all electronics here for a while now before I have to recycle that too.

 

 

 

Den tis 31 mars 2020 kl 23:00 skrev <hahn@...>:

Ludvig-

I'm super interested! Can you take a photo of the keypad and also the inside of the control so I can compare with what is on my 220p? Thanks!
Hahn Rossman
Rossmancycles.com


Re: Giving away Emcotronic m1 from vmc-100

Sharp.Shooter
 

I would be interested in front panel keypad, my is in a really bad shape Jof course if Hahn doesn’t need it, he answered first.

Thanks

Stefan

 

From: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io [mailto:Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ludvig Friberg
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 11:40 PM
To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] Giving away Emcotronic m1 from vmc-100

 

I can take some photos of the keypad. What do you mean with inside of the control? It is disassembled so a lot of cards in boxes. Do you have the name of the card you are looking for? The heavy metal case and all that is gone. I have all electronics here for a while now before I have to recycle that too.

 

 

 

Den tis 31 mars 2020 kl 23:00 skrev <hahn@...>:

Ludvig-

I'm super interested! Can you take a photo of the keypad and also the inside of the control so I can compare with what is on my 220p? Thanks!
Hahn Rossman
Rossmancycles.com


Re: Giving away Emcotronic m1 from vmc-100

hahn@...
 

Ludvig-
I will take whatever you have for electronics if it's already disassembled. The drives on my machine are R3D413001 and similar numbers. I can send a UPS tag for shipping if you tell me your address and the size of the box and weight.
Hahn Rossman


Re: Giving away Emcotronic m1 from vmc-100

Ludvig Friberg
 

I can take some photos of the keypad. What do you mean with inside of the control? It is disassembled so a lot of cards in boxes. Do you have the name of the card you are looking for? The heavy metal case and all that is gone. I have all electronics here for a while now before I have to recycle that too.



Den tis 31 mars 2020 kl 23:00 skrev <hahn@...>:

Ludvig-
I'm super interested! Can you take a photo of the keypad and also the inside of the control so I can compare with what is on my 220p? Thanks!
Hahn Rossman
Rossmancycles.com


Re: Giving away Emcotronic m1 from vmc-100

hahn@...
 

Ludvig-
I'm super interested! Can you take a photo of the keypad and also the inside of the control so I can compare with what is on my 220p? Thanks!
Hahn Rossman
Rossmancycles.com


Giving away Emcotronic m1 from vmc-100

Ludvig Friberg
 

Hi! I hav disassembled a M1 unit since I now use modern control. It looks new, comes from a school. I can post stuff if you pay for shipping. I live in Norway so probably cheaper with small parts. Anyone interested? 


Re: FOR SALE: I have a PC 125 Mill complete that I would like to sell.

marty_in_mesa
 

He says Dayton, OH toward the end of his email


On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 11:56 AM Ricky G. via Groups.Io <lablue79=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Where are you located ?

What's the liknk?

PM me
r8derz79@...
Rick
909 480 9136
On Thursday, March 19, 2020, 11:13:26 AM PDT, <kevinkcam@...> wrote:


Hello,
        I have not been a reqular poster, despite having some Emco stuff.
I hope I am within the rules of the forum here in posting this. If not. I apologize.

I have a complete PC Mill 125 for sale.
It has the manuals, a little bit of tooling.
I got it a few years ago from a school nearby where I live.
Like many of these, it clearly had an easy life. There is no mechanical wear evident or damage to the mechanical parts.
I never ran it. I planned to put it in a home shop and do a retrofit on it. I got busy with other things.

The machine is near Dayton Ohio, USA. It is not under power, but you can come see it if you are interested.
You can pick it up or I could possibly deliver it within a few hundred miles, if that helped. (would need to cover costs.)
Reasonable offers will be considered.

Thanks for looking,
      Kevin


Re: FOR SALE: I have a PC 125 Mill complete that I would like to sell.

Ricky G.
 

Where are you located ?

What's the liknk?

PM me
r8derz79@...
Rick
909 480 9136

On Thursday, March 19, 2020, 11:13:26 AM PDT, <kevinkcam@...> wrote:


Hello,
        I have not been a reqular poster, despite having some Emco stuff.
I hope I am within the rules of the forum here in posting this. If not. I apologize.

I have a complete PC Mill 125 for sale.
It has the manuals, a little bit of tooling.
I got it a few years ago from a school nearby where I live.
Like many of these, it clearly had an easy life. There is no mechanical wear evident or damage to the mechanical parts.
I never ran it. I planned to put it in a home shop and do a retrofit on it. I got busy with other things.

The machine is near Dayton Ohio, USA. It is not under power, but you can come see it if you are interested.
You can pick it up or I could possibly deliver it within a few hundred miles, if that helped. (would need to cover costs.)
Reasonable offers will be considered.

Thanks for looking,
      Kevin


FOR SALE: I have a PC 125 Mill complete that I would like to sell.

kevinkcam@...
 

Hello,
        I have not been a reqular poster, despite having some Emco stuff.
I hope I am within the rules of the forum here in posting this. If not. I apologize.

I have a complete PC Mill 125 for sale.
It has the manuals, a little bit of tooling.
I got it a few years ago from a school nearby where I live.
Like many of these, it clearly had an easy life. There is no mechanical wear evident or damage to the mechanical parts.
I never ran it. I planned to put it in a home shop and do a retrofit on it. I got busy with other things.

The machine is near Dayton Ohio, USA. It is not under power, but you can come see it if you are interested.
You can pick it up or I could possibly deliver it within a few hundred miles, if that helped. (would need to cover costs.)
Reasonable offers will be considered.

Thanks for looking,
      Kevin


Re: Retrofit emco pc turn 50

marty_in_mesa
 

Centroid CNC Acorn has a true spindle encoder input that requires a line driver differential encoder. Works well, can allow rigid and Peck tapping. 4 axis of step and direction motion control. Hardware and software comes from the same manufacturer specializing in CNC Machine motion control for over 30 years. Of course there are others. 


On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 7:04 AM Daniel Pilon <teilax@...> wrote:
Hi,

Mach 3 only use the 1 pulse per rotation so it is not berry efficient at compensating for the rpm variations on the spindle. Linuxcnc make a better job at synchronising the axis since it use the 1pulse per revolution and the 100pulse per revolution encoder at the same time. I have a special spindle drive that adjust the spindle power to keep the rpm constant +/-1%. It help with the synchronisation of the stepper and the spindle necessary for precise threading.

This made the cost of my retrofit go up but I am happy with the result.

Do you think there is a market for retrofit kit?

Thank you and have a good day

Daniel

On Mon., Mar. 16, 2020, 9:37 a.m. Mamz <mams20_7@...> wrote:
Hi Daniel, what is your feedback about  Linux and mach3 on threading? I use only mach3 on theses machine but I had some errors with my ESS Smoothstepper controller.
The spindle is not perfectly synchronized and beyond 1900 rpm the index gets carried away and leaves the spindle at the maximum speed. I haven't had time to seriously push the tests yet but I would some feedbacks. 

Mams z. 


Re: Retrofit emco pc turn 50

Daniel Pilon
 

Hi,

Mach 3 only use the 1 pulse per rotation so it is not berry efficient at compensating for the rpm variations on the spindle. Linuxcnc make a better job at synchronising the axis since it use the 1pulse per revolution and the 100pulse per revolution encoder at the same time. I have a special spindle drive that adjust the spindle power to keep the rpm constant +/-1%. It help with the synchronisation of the stepper and the spindle necessary for precise threading.

This made the cost of my retrofit go up but I am happy with the result.

Do you think there is a market for retrofit kit?

Thank you and have a good day

Daniel

On Mon., Mar. 16, 2020, 9:37 a.m. Mamz <mams20_7@...> wrote:
Hi Daniel, what is your feedback about  Linux and mach3 on threading? I use only mach3 on theses machine but I had some errors with my ESS Smoothstepper controller.
The spindle is not perfectly synchronized and beyond 1900 rpm the index gets carried away and leaves the spindle at the maximum speed. I haven't had time to seriously push the tests yet but I would some feedbacks. 

Mams z. 


Re: Retrofit emco pc turn 50

Mamz
 
Edited

Hi Daniel, I agree with you. The standards steppers motors is easier (bipolar 4 wires).

What is your feedback about  Linux and mach3 on threading? I use only mach3 on theses machine but I had some errors with my ESS Smoothstepper controller.
The spindle is not perfectly synchronized and beyond 1900 rpm the index gets carried away and leaves the spindle at the maximum speed. I haven't had time to seriously push the tests yet but I would some feedbacks. 

Mams z.


Re: Retrofit emco pc turn 50

Daniel Pilon
 

Hi,

I made a retrofit changing the stepper motor, the stepper driver and the spindle drive. It take verry little space. It all fit behind the yellow part of the cnc machine. I made the configuration for Mach 3 and for LunuxCNC using the old spindle encoder to synchronise the spindle (for threading). It sound to me it is much better to go for "standart" solution instead of keeping the custom motor/driver from the old machine. Do you think there is a market for retrofit kit?  I think It could be sold for 400$ with detailed plan to apply the retrofit and configure the software.  

Thank you and have a good day

Daniel

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 at 09:29, Mamz <mams20_7@...> wrote:
I got compact 5 lathe but it's same parts to pc 50. If you need help you can contact me. I live in France too and make 2 retrofits on this machine.


Re: Retrofit emco pc turn 50

Mamz
 

I got compact 5 lathe but it's same parts to pc 50. If you need help you can contact me. I live in France too and make 2 retrofits on this machine.


Re: Retrofit emco pc turn 50

finistairsoft@...
 

Thanks for links ! 

I will check mach3 support too !

Drivers on aliexpress are for 5 phases motors, sames output/inputs than drivers on model-engineer link, I will try.


Re: Retrofit emco pc turn 50

emco@...
 

should keep the stepper motors and the 3 phase spindle motor, check this link  

https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=140566

also check mach3support more detailed about this conversion.


Re: Retrofit emco pc turn 50

Rowan Schwartz
 

I have one too and plan on retro fitting and will take advice too!


On Mar 14, 2020, at 1:56 PM, finistairsoft@... wrote:


Hello everybody ! I'm french and I have an emco pc turn50 since few weeks without computer/software/card. I want use mach3 (USB) and retrofit this lathe, but keep maximum original parts.
I have already a 0.55kw VFD, and I'm looking to save originals motors. I found on aliexpress 5 phases drivers :
I don't know if it is ok for original motors...
 
Maybe someone with a retrofit pc turn 50 can help me ?
 
Thank you !
 
Eric


Retrofit emco pc turn 50

finistairsoft@...
 

Hello everybody ! I'm french and I have an emco pc turn50 since few weeks without computer/software/card. I want use mach3 (USB) and retrofit this lathe, but keep maximum original parts.
I have already a 0.55kw VFD, and I'm looking to save originals motors. I found on aliexpress 5 phases drivers :
I don't know if it is ok for original motors...
 
Maybe someone with a retrofit pc turn 50 can help me ?
 
Thank you !
 
Eric