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Re: No display on monitor

leozehome <leozehome@...>
 

I'm using a 13" television with the cable plugged into the video
(yellow) socket on the front. It thinks that I'm playing PacMan. The
screen shows up as soon as I power up the machine.
And thanks to all guys who sent information to help me get my CNC5 up
and running. It is.

Leo


Cutting threads on Compact 5 CNC.

marekamat
 

Greetings…

… from a long time CNC enthusiast and `experienced' by-stander
to this forum. I hope somebody could answer a few questions regarding
thread cutting capabilities of small CNC lathes by Emco. My designs of
fishing reels call for a number of custom screws in sizes of M2.5 to
M6, in brass and stainless steel. Is a Compact 5 CNC a suitable and
accurate machine tool for making these screws? And second question:
How does a PC Turn 55 CNC compare to a Compact 5 CNC MECHANICALLY?
From what I have seen on the eBay PC turn is a slant bed machine, but
besides this is it bigger, heavier more powerful or are there any
other significant mechanical differences…
Thank you and regards,

Mark


Re: Cutting threads on Compact 5 CNC.

David Rabenius
 

Mark:
  The PC55 lathe (on ebay) is a vastly upgraded machine in many ways. The base frame is the same but the electronics are completely upgraded. Most importantly is the fact that the control system is now fully compatiable with FANUC industrial control systems. The screens , buttons & switches are the same. The controll panel is removeable for other systems like, Siemens, Heidenhan, EMCOTRONIC & others.
  The spindle & axis motors are servo's and have encoders for checking positional accurracy. The spindle will turn in either direction via the programming. The axis motors are much more powerful and many times better stepping resoultion..
  The older CNC5 lathes were awkward to program and you had to figure what the machine would take code wise or it would alarm out and you would have to corect it using a different value,. The cost is well worth the newer PC55 series lathes, software  CAD packages are fully compatiable with the 55 lathe. The last machine sold for like $ 3400.00 and compared to the normal $1600 -2600 for the CNC5. I have a PC5 lathe and have made hundreds of parts with no problems and feel that it is MUCH easier that the CNC5 to program, plus you dont have to use the stupid tapes which are getting harderto find now. I was told that the later CNC5's can use the PC5 software to program but have no way of comfirming it.
 
Dave

marekamat wrote:
Greetings�

� from a long time CNC enthusiast and `experienced' by-stander
to this forum. I hope somebody could answer a few questions regarding
thread cutting capabilities of small CNC lathes by Emco. My designs of
fishing reels call for a number of custom screws in sizes of M2.5 to
M6, in brass and stainless steel. Is a Compact 5 CNC a suitable and
accurate machine tool for making these screws? And second question:
How does a PC Turn 55 CNC compare to a Compact 5 CNC MECHANICALLY?
From what I have seen on the eBay PC turn is a slant bed machine, but
besides this is it bigger, heavier more powerful or are there any
other significant mechanical differences�
Thank you and regards,

Mark



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Informations

compact5fred <compact5fred@...>
 

Hi there. I bought an old Emco 5 CNC lathe. I looked at all
documentation but there must be something I missed : On my lathe, there
was no PC-platine n° A6C 403000. I downloaded the software from this
forum but I don't know if I can connect this lathe on a old PC without
the PC platine ? Can I connect it via an " home made " board ? If yes,
have you already done that ?
Thanks for that great forum, Best Regards
Fred ( France ).


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Looking for CNC manual

sixtydegreev6 <sappyse107@...>
 

The link in the files doesn't work for the compact 5 cnc lathe. Just
got one with no paperwork and im wanting to learn how to use it. Also
looking for software but I may have located that part of it. Im new
to CNC so this is my first shot at it. Thanks for any help!


Re: Looking for CNC manual

leozehome <leozehome@...>
 

www.d-and-d.com/EMCO/MANUAL/index.html

Give that a try...
I think that the "software" is resident in the memory and doesn't need
reloading.

Leo


Re: Looking for CNC manual

leozehome <leozehome@...>
 

www.d-and-d.com/EMCO/MANUAL/index.html

Try that...
I believe that the "software" is stored permanently and does not
require reloading.

Leo


Re: Looking for CNC manual

sixtydegreev6 <sappyse107@...>
 

Thanks! I spent a couple hours learning G code to test the machine.
Now I need a cable because the one I made didn't work. Has anyone
made a cable that worked? Should I try windows 3.1 or is XP or 98
compatible? Port settings?

M03 and M05 work so I assume the software built in is the mk4 version,
at least that is my conclusion from the manual. The hardware looks
like mk2 though. Software can be upgraded without the hardware right?

Ben

--- In Emco_cnc_users@..., "leozehome" <leozehome@...> wrote:

www.d-and-d.com/EMCO/MANUAL/index.html

Try that...
I believe that the "software" is stored permanently and does not
require reloading.

Leo


Re: Looking for CNC manual

Professors <Professors@...>
 

Ive used the serial cable pin-out that is in the manual and files section with both Win 3.1 and Win 98 without any problems.

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L8r
Blue Knight   ô¿ô      "Machinist Due It With Precision"
AKA Joseph P. Mucenski
Tucson, AZ
BlueKn@...


problem to program tooling

garf67 <garf67@...>
 

i guys does any one work with bob-cam with welsoft i need in the nc
files the patch or something like that to get the g codes in the cycle
option i do not have nothing in ther and i need this codes cycle if
any body work with this please wood you send me the patch files so
that i can have the cycle codes ther

thank


How to use 3.5" floppy on Emco Compact 5 CNC Mk4?

Andy Martell
 

Hi,

Does anybody know how to use the floppy disc drive on a Emco Compact 5
CNC?

Just got one, but the instructions are only for a tape system.

Do you have to format the disc first?

Cheers,

Andy


Re: How to use 3.5" floppy on Emco Compact 5 CNC Mk4?

Andy Martell
 

Hi,

Managed to work this one out - needed Double Density not High Density
disks and all is working!

Cheers,

Andy


Re: Looking for CNC manual

Andy Martell
 

Hi,

I'm trying to get the RS-232 comms working on my Mk4 Compact 5 CNC.

I was checking out the the file section, but can't see the RS232
Cable.pdf file which afn09556 suggests should be there. It shows the
pin out of the round amphenol connector. Does anybody know what the
part number of the mating half is and its pin out?

Also, I traced the cable back from the round connector back to the
PCB. I think I've identified the serial lines correctly, but when I
try and save the file (G66, INP, FOR), 'A SA' is displayed but none of
the lines do anything. Does anybody have a circuit diagram for the
serial connection and any operating instructions?

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Andy


Re: Looking for CNC manual

sixtydegreev6 <sappyse107@...>
 

I have tried wiring one up with the diagram without luck. I should
have my welsoft made cable this week. I want to see if it has a box
in line with a chip and whatever else, like my ALDL cable does for the
computer tuning in a car. I bring this up because there is an "easy"
way to make the ALDL cable but it never seems to work either without
that extra hardware. I will post up some info when I have the cable.

Id like to know if I can take the .bin files labeled mk4 or something
to that nature, and flash the chips for the mk2 version I have. I
think its mk2 anyway, from the sticker on the front not being like the
mk4 model.

Ben

--- In Emco_cnc_users@..., "Andy Martell" <sonachan1@...>
wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to get the RS-232 comms working on my Mk4 Compact 5 CNC.

I was checking out the the file section, but can't see the RS232
Cable.pdf file which afn09556 suggests should be there. It shows the
pin out of the round amphenol connector. Does anybody know what the
part number of the mating half is and its pin out?

Also, I traced the cable back from the round connector back to the
PCB. I think I've identified the serial lines correctly, but when I
try and save the file (G66, INP, FOR), 'A SA' is displayed but none of
the lines do anything. Does anybody have a circuit diagram for the
serial connection and any operating instructions?

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Andy


Re: How to use 3.5" floppy on Emco Compact 5 CNC Mk4?

Professors <Professors@...>
 

Hi Andy,

Could you tell us a little more about how you added a floppy drive to the CNC5?

Can we use a regular floppy drive or does it require a special one.

If so where did you find yours, and what did it cost?

If possible I would like to add one to my machine.

I think it would make things a lot easier.

Thanks,

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L8r
Blue Knight   ô¿ô      "Machinist Due It With Precision"
AKA Joseph P. Mucenski
Tucson, AZ
BlueKn@...


Re: Looking for CNC manual

Professors <Professors@...>
 

Hi Andy,

I tried to upload a picture file of the RS232 pin out; but it would not work.

I sent it to you.  If you can upload it to the files section please do.

If anyone else would like a copy, let me know.

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L8r
Blue Knight  
ô¿ô      "Machinist Due It With Precision"
AKA Joseph P. Mucenski
Tucson, AZ
BlueKn@...


Re: Looking for CNC manual

Andy Martell
 

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for the picture. I've uploaded it into the 'Emco compact 5
cnc lathe' folder in the files section.

There seems to be two versions of RS232 connector in circulation.
The diagram you sent shows a 25 way d-type. My machine has a 12 way
Amphenol circular type. The instructions which I have show selection
of the baud rate by taking pin E (they're labelled A-J) to ground for
110 baud, yet your diagram shows baud setting by a switch inside the
machine. Do you have any info on where these switches are? I'm
wondering if my machine is a mixture different RS232 circuits.

Also, do you know the sequence of commands on the Compact 5? If I
select G66 then INP, 'A' is displayed. If I press 'FWD' 'SA' also
appears, but no data is transmitted (I can't see anything happening
on the scope). If I press 'INP' instead of 'FWD' 'LO' appears, but
the machine doesn't react to any input. I can't help thinking I'm
doing something wrong at the Emco end! Has any one done this
successfully?

BTW ammonihaho also posted a useful diagram in the photos section
which shows the connection for the F1 mill. I'm connected up like
this but no joy which again makes me think I'm not setting the
machine commands properly.

Finally, have a look at this neat program which does a similar thing
to Weledit, but can also draw your toolpath for you....

http://members.cox.net/mnorth1b/

Cheers,

Andy


Re: How to use 3.5" floppy on Emco Compact 5 CNC Mk4?

Andy Martell
 

Hi Joseph,

I bought my machine last weekend with the dick drive already included.
I think it started off life as a standard high density (720Mb) PC disk
drive, but it has a circuit board underneath which looks like the emco
driver. Having said that, I'm not sure if the tape drive has a circuit
board attached and if its the same one.

I've put some photos into the photo section so can have a look at it.

Cheers,

Andy


Re: Looking for CNC manual

Andy Martell
 

Hi Ben,

Thanks for the info - keep us posted with developments. You can
download a trial version of Weledit which has cable info in the 'Help'
section. I've tried it and still no luck so it will be interesting to
see if the official version works. My machine refuses to accept or
receive any data. I'm not sure that I'm setting up the commands on the
machine properly (see other part of this thread).

I take it you have the 12 pin amphenol plug?

Regarding the bin files, I really don't know. Has anyone else got any
ideas?

Cheers,

Andy