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Re: Emco Turn 50 Error 6013: MAIN DRIVE NOT READY

Pmecnc
 

Code 6013 could be bad power supply.to the main drive both 24 & 5 v or mains. Bad connections in plugs. bad transistor that get hot and are thermaly protecte take a look of link pdf codes are the same. From what you describe it sound like thermaly & or the motor drive shutdown because of low voltage/higher current


Re: PCmill50 programming errors

David Rabenius
 

Arjan Dijk:
  Thanks for the help. I am adding N numbers now and will run the program to see how it works. If I can repay the favor to you let me know.

Dave

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 08:35:43 AM EDT, arjan.dijk <arjan.dijk@...> wrote:


I used CIMCO to Convert, it uses IJK instead of R. Hope it helps

Arjan Dijk


Re: Emco Turn 50 Error 6013: MAIN DRIVE NOT READY

David Rabenius
 

Try turning the chuck a few revolutions, maybe the encoder has something to do with the spindle position. You will have to rezero the machine as well.On my PCmill50 if it alarms out for overload sometimes it takes 2 reboots to reset to run again.


Re: PCmill50 programming errors

arjan.dijk
 

I used CIMCO to Convert, it uses IJK instead of R. Hope it helps

Arjan Dijk


Emco Turn 50 Error 6013: MAIN DRIVE NOT READY

arjan.dijk
 

I get this error sometimes out of the blue, but today because the spindle load got too high.(Chips were clogging around the spindle).; If I reset it goes away for 5 seconds. If I reboot I get no errors but the spindle will not rotate.  If I leave the machine for a couple of hours its ready again most of the time. What can this be?

 

Emco Turn 50 Error 6013: MAIN DRIVE NOT READY

Im using WinCAM turn

Arjan


Re: PCmill50 programming errors

rcflyer
 

It looks ok in the verification I use, but it's not Fanuc 0M specific. There are many 180° arc moves. Fanuc manuals say it can't reliably calculate arc centers using radius format. How Emco decided to implement this is hard to say, but I believe I had the same errors in my PC Mill 125 Fanuc 0M until I changed to center format arcs in the post. Memory isn't not an issue, so a few extra characters don't matter. If you really want to stick with radius format change the maximum angle to something less than 180°.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 12:03 AM David Rabenius via groups.io <swedeson2002=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Michel:
  Here you go, the complete file. I have already roughed out the .368 diameter  it is at .388. This was as received by the programmer. I made a few minor edits mainly to the Z retract values. Some of the feeds & spindle speeds are way too slow.

Dave


Re: PCmill50 programming errors

David Rabenius
 

Michel:
  Here you go, the complete file. I have already roughed out the .368 diameter  it is at .388. This was as received by the programmer. I made a few minor edits mainly to the Z retract values. Some of the feeds & spindle speeds are way too slow.

Dave

On Sunday, June 28, 2020, 09:51:53 PM EDT, rcflyer <sclcl082@...> wrote:


It would be helpful to see the code, at least the parts which err. If Fanuc 0M control, it doesn't support greater than 180° in a segment. If you are programming 180° moves, you can't use the radius callout reliably, and must use IJK.

On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 1:45 AM <michel@...> wrote:
Hello David,

Could you send me your files? I'll try my best to help you :)

Best wishes
Michel

Am 28.06.2020 04:53 schrieb David Rabenius <taborboy78@...>:
  To all I am trying to get a part programmed on the PCmill50. I used to have a friend wo was a EMCO dealer in Arizona but he passed away  earlier this year. My problem is with G02 & G03, keep getting the "wrong circle parameter" alarm. I used MasterCam X3 and for some reason it isn't happy. My friend used Maxnc software and MasterCam previously with no problems. I am not running the post processor specific for the EMCO, does anyone have that?
  The part I am making is 4pcs. on a 1.00 x .500 thick strip about 5.4 inches long. I am using a 1\2 inch Carbide endmill and a .750 dia. x .125 thick Keo cutter. The parts are spaced 1.400 inches apart. I have programmed & cut the ruffing passes already. I left about .020 for a cleanup cut as I ruffed with a staggered \finishing 3 flute carbide endmill.
   I don't have the EMCO milling software, have the 50 Lathe software but haven't used it yet. I need to make chips at this point and time is running out. Its a stupid problem to have and without someone who knows the machine & programming am S.O.L.
   The machine is certainly capable as I have done some "out of the box" programming using a single point threadmill to thread a large diameter tube with a thread Horizontally. I had a problem figuring that out, called EMCO (no help) and finally my local dealer (deceased) drew the thread as a helix and used Maxnc software to program. It worked like a champ. programs were huge thou.
  If anyone out there could look at my code or using the PC50 software reprogram it I would be happy to pay for the service. I have all files & drawings.


Re: PCmill50 programming errors

rcflyer
 

It would be helpful to see the code, at least the parts which err. If Fanuc 0M control, it doesn't support greater than 180° in a segment. If you are programming 180° moves, you can't use the radius callout reliably, and must use IJK.

On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 1:45 AM <michel@...> wrote:
Hello David,

Could you send me your files? I'll try my best to help you :)

Best wishes
Michel

Am 28.06.2020 04:53 schrieb David Rabenius <taborboy78@...>:
  To all I am trying to get a part programmed on the PCmill50. I used to have a friend wo was a EMCO dealer in Arizona but he passed away  earlier this year. My problem is with G02 & G03, keep getting the "wrong circle parameter" alarm. I used MasterCam X3 and for some reason it isn't happy. My friend used Maxnc software and MasterCam previously with no problems. I am not running the post processor specific for the EMCO, does anyone have that?
  The part I am making is 4pcs. on a 1.00 x .500 thick strip about 5.4 inches long. I am using a 1\2 inch Carbide endmill and a .750 dia. x .125 thick Keo cutter. The parts are spaced 1.400 inches apart. I have programmed & cut the ruffing passes already. I left about .020 for a cleanup cut as I ruffed with a staggered \finishing 3 flute carbide endmill.
   I don't have the EMCO milling software, have the 50 Lathe software but haven't used it yet. I need to make chips at this point and time is running out. Its a stupid problem to have and without someone who knows the machine & programming am S.O.L.
   The machine is certainly capable as I have done some "out of the box" programming using a single point threadmill to thread a large diameter tube with a thread Horizontally. I had a problem figuring that out, called EMCO (no help) and finally my local dealer (deceased) drew the thread as a helix and used Maxnc software to program. It worked like a champ. programs were huge thou.
  If anyone out there could look at my code or using the PC50 software reprogram it I would be happy to pay for the service. I have all files & drawings.


Re: PCmill50 programming errors

michel@...
 

Hello David,

Could you send me your files? I'll try my best to help you :)

Best wishes
Michel

Am 28.06.2020 04:53 schrieb David Rabenius <taborboy78@...>:

  To all I am trying to get a part programmed on the PCmill50. I used to have a friend wo was a EMCO dealer in Arizona but he passed away  earlier this year. My problem is with G02 & G03, keep getting the "wrong circle parameter" alarm. I used MasterCam X3 and for some reason it isn't happy. My friend used Maxnc software and MasterCam previously with no problems. I am not running the post processor specific for the EMCO, does anyone have that?
  The part I am making is 4pcs. on a 1.00 x .500 thick strip about 5.4 inches long. I am using a 1\2 inch Carbide endmill and a .750 dia. x .125 thick Keo cutter. The parts are spaced 1.400 inches apart. I have programmed & cut the ruffing passes already. I left about .020 for a cleanup cut as I ruffed with a staggered \finishing 3 flute carbide endmill.
   I don't have the EMCO milling software, have the 50 Lathe software but haven't used it yet. I need to make chips at this point and time is running out. Its a stupid problem to have and without someone who knows the machine & programming am S.O.L.
   The machine is certainly capable as I have done some "out of the box" programming using a single point threadmill to thread a large diameter tube with a thread Horizontally. I had a problem figuring that out, called EMCO (no help) and finally my local dealer (deceased) drew the thread as a helix and used Maxnc software to program. It worked like a champ. programs were huge thou.
  If anyone out there could look at my code or using the PC50 software reprogram it I would be happy to pay for the service. I have all files & drawings.


PCmill50 programming errors

David Rabenius
 

  To all I am trying to get a part programmed on the PCmill50. I used to have a friend wo was a EMCO dealer in Arizona but he passed away  earlier this year. My problem is with G02 & G03, keep getting the "wrong circle parameter" alarm. I used MasterCam X3 and for some reason it isn't happy. My friend used Maxnc software and MasterCam previously with no problems. I am not running the post processor specific for the EMCO, does anyone have that?
  The part I am making is 4pcs. on a 1.00 x .500 thick strip about 5.4 inches long. I am using a 1\2 inch Carbide endmill and a .750 dia. x .125 thick Keo cutter. The parts are spaced 1.400 inches apart. I have programmed & cut the ruffing passes already. I left about .020 for a cleanup cut as I ruffed with a staggered \finishing 3 flute carbide endmill.
   I don't have the EMCO milling software, have the 50 Lathe software but haven't used it yet. I need to make chips at this point and time is running out. Its a stupid problem to have and without someone who knows the machine & programming am S.O.L.
   The machine is certainly capable as I have done some "out of the box" programming using a single point threadmill to thread a large diameter tube with a thread Horizontally. I had a problem figuring that out, called EMCO (no help) and finally my local dealer (deceased) drew the thread as a helix and used Maxnc software to program. It worked like a champ. programs were huge thou.
  If anyone out there could look at my code or using the PC50 software reprogram it I would be happy to pay for the service. I have all files & drawings.


WELturn operating instructions for 5CNC

cncjeff@...
 

Does anyone have a copy of the operating instructions and software for using the WELturn card?


Re: Welturn card, need hardware instructions

cncwannabe
 


Welturn card, need hardware instructions

cousineaumathieu@...
 

Hi, guys, I have a welturn card that id like to install and it did come with a 10 pages installation instructions but I lost it while moving my shop twice. Would anybody around here have a copy or can scan the original documents ?

thank you very very much
Matt aka Imsolathe


Welturn card, need hardware instructions

cousineaumathieu@...
 

Hi guys, I have a welturn card but no hardware installation documents, I know it did came with a 10 pages document, which I have lost while moving my shop twice. Can anybody scan the document ?

I would greatly appreciate it. 

Thank you 

Matt aka Imsolathe


Re: Files Needed!

Constantine Christophi
 

I've checked the optical sensors, it's all very clean but I cleaned it again anyway. I need to remove it properly and meter the sensors but I don't have time to do that until next week. I do get a sensor error with the sensors removed so it's possible the sensors are working? I'll email you the MSD.


Re: Files Needed!

michel@...
 

Okay. If I am getting you right: The tool turret does find it index position. If you try to change the tool now nothing happens (even no alarm messages occurs) but the tool number in the display does change?

I had various problems with tool changers. Most of the problems had to do with the position sensors. You can open the cover on the right side of the tool turret (where the cables come out). Underneath is the tool turret controller. On this controller are 4 photoelectric barriers. Maybe there is some dirt in between or one of them has a malfunction. It is recommandable to dismount it, clean it up and have another check.

It would be helpfull if you could send me your machine data. I also had a failure where the wrong tool turret was choosen. 


Re: Files Needed!

Constantine Christophi
 

I think the problem is mechanical. If I take the tool turret off, I can see it turning in reverse and I get a "6040 Tool Turret Index Failure". If I put it on (even loosely), it indexes and then no tool changes.


Re: Files Needed!

michel@...
 

Yeah! Sounds great!

That is the point where the Wincfg gets interesting. Just start the "WinConfig for WinNC32 MaL". Then click on the gear. If you only installed the software for your lathe it automatically opens the machine data of your lathe. Otherwise you have to choose it over the menus. Now you go to the point "activate accessories". This point is accessible without a password. Then just tick the point "Tool turret". You need to make shure that WinConfig is thinking that you have a floppy drive with the machine data floppy in it. Otherwise it is not possible to save the changes in that easy way.

Hope for the best!


Re: Files Needed!

Constantine Christophi
 

Hi Michel

The machine is running! I can use almost all the functions now. 

The only thing that doesn't seem to operate is the tool changer. I have tried M6;Tx, just Tx, the display changes but the tool does not rotate. The manual I have does not have M code for tool changes.

Thanks!


Re: Files Needed!

michel@...
 

This is great! Maybe, if you did not have done it already, it is worth to have a look into the control box at the backside of the machines. It is very common to store the floppy disk with the MSD on it there.

Regarding the Wincfg: this is the place where you can change you machine parameters but you need to have the MSD to change them. So you are not able to create them with Wincfg.