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Re: WINNC

androidge23@...
 

Got the connectors, and still nothing.
I give up.

Re: Backlash on Z-slide (Compact 5 CNC)

ThreeDJ16
 

Done…check your email.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io <Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io> on behalf of Mikko Kuivamäki <mikkokuivamaki@...>
Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 5:56:59 PM
To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] Backlash on Z-slide (Compact 5 CNC)
 
Great, thanks! Here's my email (just signed up A360)
mikkokuivamaki@...

Re: Backlash on Z-slide (Compact 5 CNC)

Mikko Kuivamäki
 

Great, thanks! Here's my email (just signed up A360)
mikkokuivamaki@...

Re: CNC Turn 55 Also Need Help

wild_kow
 

John, when you install Winnc, you are asked to put the msc disk in the drive. The program puts the necessary data where it needs to.

John


From: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io <Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io> on behalf of John Kiely via Groups.Io <john_kiely@...>
Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 10:24:56 PM
To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] CNC Turn 55 Also Need Help
 
Thanks for that, but where do you place the msd file?
I got my msd file separate from the rest.
Can you put it in the main WinCC directory?

Thanks for the help so far , But I have a feeling I will be asking more questions.

Regards

John Kiely

Re: Backlash on Z-slide (Compact 5 CNC)

ThreeDJ16
 

Use the search as I just recently made a post on this very thing.  I made mine into a 1-piece keeper from aluminum bronze.  They seem to be working great.  I have the CAD files in my group A360 folder.  If you are interested in joining that, just email me your A360 email address (the one you would use for Fusion 360).  Sign up is free.  FYI, I belong to Emco facebook and here, Taig facebook and yahoo, and Sherline facebook, so I don’t post CAD files to all those groups, as it would be crazy trying to keep them updates.  So I offer anyone who wishes to join my CAD share folder if they like.

 

-Jasen

 

 

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From: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io <Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io> on behalf of hurtisover2011 <estonianed@...>
Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 5:20:37 PM
To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] Backlash on Z-slide (Compact 5 CNC)
 
Hi, not sure how you adjust the amount of clearance between the Z slide(saddle)  and the but l have just checked my compact 5 cnc with a DTI. There is .05mm of clearance between the saddle and the bed on the stepper motor side and .025mm at the opposite side. I checked by pulling the saddle in a vertical direction.
Ed

On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, 21:33 Mikko Kuivamäki, <mikkokuivamaki@...> wrote:
Hi,

I bought recently Compact 5 CNC lathe and first of all I dismantled everything and did proper clean-up for all of the components. I just reassembled the Z-slide and noticed that there is a lot of play/backlash between the Z-slide body and the bed. I'm assuming that the keep plates (long and short) are worn out. Is this common issue with Compact 5 lathes? No matter how much I tighten the screws, it just don't work. These plates are made of plastic(??) so I probably have to replace these.
This Z-slide should be quite tight on the bed right?

Re: CNC Turn 55 Also Need Help

John Kiely
 

Thanks for that, but where do you place the msd file?
I got my msd file separate from the rest.
Can you put it in the main WinCC directory?

Thanks for the help so far , But I have a feeling I will be asking more questions.

Regards

John Kiely

Re: Backlash on Z-slide (Compact 5 CNC)

hurtisover2011
 

Hi, not sure how you adjust the amount of clearance between the Z slide(saddle)  and the but l have just checked my compact 5 cnc with a DTI. There is .05mm of clearance between the saddle and the bed on the stepper motor side and .025mm at the opposite side. I checked by pulling the saddle in a vertical direction.
Ed

On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, 21:33 Mikko Kuivamäki, <mikkokuivamaki@...> wrote:
Hi,

I bought recently Compact 5 CNC lathe and first of all I dismantled everything and did proper clean-up for all of the components. I just reassembled the Z-slide and noticed that there is a lot of play/backlash between the Z-slide body and the bed. I'm assuming that the keep plates (long and short) are worn out. Is this common issue with Compact 5 lathes? No matter how much I tighten the screws, it just don't work. These plates are made of plastic(??) so I probably have to replace these.
This Z-slide should be quite tight on the bed right?

Backlash on Z-slide (Compact 5 CNC)

Mikko Kuivamäki
 

Hi,

I bought recently Compact 5 CNC lathe and first of all I dismantled everything and did proper clean-up for all of the components. I just reassembled the Z-slide and noticed that there is a lot of play/backlash between the Z-slide body and the bed. I'm assuming that the keep plates (long and short) are worn out. Is this common issue with Compact 5 lathes? No matter how much I tighten the screws, it just don't work. These plates are made of plastic(??) so I probably have to replace these.
This Z-slide should be quite tight on the bed right?

Re: WTB - Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe ISA / PCI Card

marty_in_mesa
 

No as I am in the US.
Emco USA does not seem interested in supporting the older machines of this era. I think I was lucky to get what I could out of them.

Marty

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018, 2:58 PM wild_kow <jwild@...> wrote:

Marty, have you contacted Austria? I was told a year or so ago by a reliable source that they could still be purchased but that may no longer be true.


John


From: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io <Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io> on behalf of marty_in_mesa <marty.escarcega@...>
Sent: 08 July 2018 22:55
To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] WTB - Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe ISA / PCI Card
 
In the USA, Emco says they no longer have the RS485 cards.
Marty

On Jul 8, 2018 2:46 PM, "wild_kow" <jwild@...> wrote:

They are specific Emco cards for the PC50 and PC55 lathe/mills. The RS485 for the PC55 is a full length card needing the full length of the ISA slot - has a slot in the card contact connector. The PC50 card only uses the first section of the slot.


As far as I know, they are still available from Emco but cost in the region of £UK 700/800.


John




From: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io <Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io> on behalf of Manfred Vormbaum <manfredv1@...>
Sent: 08 July 2018 19:39
To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] WTB - Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe ISA / PCI Card
 
If I understand you it is a specific card for Emco.

In that case I my card will not be suitable.

Manfred

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 2:37 PM <androidge23@...> wrote:
It’s the dual rs485 card looks like the rest of the Emco cards. Only difference is the chip likely on the card is for the 55. Versus another model. Only way to know is if you knew where it came from and or try it


Re: WTB - Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe ISA / PCI Card

wild_kow
 

Marty, have you contacted Austria? I was told a year or so ago by a reliable source that they could still be purchased but that may no longer be true.


John


From: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io <Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io> on behalf of marty_in_mesa <marty.escarcega@...>
Sent: 08 July 2018 22:55
To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] WTB - Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe ISA / PCI Card
 
In the USA, Emco says they no longer have the RS485 cards.
Marty

On Jul 8, 2018 2:46 PM, "wild_kow" <jwild@...> wrote:

They are specific Emco cards for the PC50 and PC55 lathe/mills. The RS485 for the PC55 is a full length card needing the full length of the ISA slot - has a slot in the card contact connector. The PC50 card only uses the first section of the slot.


As far as I know, they are still available from Emco but cost in the region of £UK 700/800.


John




From: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io <Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io> on behalf of Manfred Vormbaum <manfredv1@...>
Sent: 08 July 2018 19:39
To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] WTB - Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe ISA / PCI Card
 
If I understand you it is a specific card for Emco.

In that case I my card will not be suitable.

Manfred

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 2:37 PM <androidge23@...> wrote:
It’s the dual rs485 card looks like the rest of the Emco cards. Only difference is the chip likely on the card is for the 55. Versus another model. Only way to know is if you knew where it came from and or try it


Re: CNC Turn 55 Also Need Help

wild_kow
 

Hi John,


You need Emco Winnc, which is operating software. If all is working OK when you switch on you will be told to Zero All. This takes the machine to the zero points, which amongst other parameters, is determined in the .msd file - that is specific to your machine. A replacement can be obtained from Emco if you do not have one, which obviously you do.


A turn 50 manual is a good place to start. If you will use a keyboard, the hot keys are listed in the manual. If a touch pad, an overlay should be available.


John




From: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io <Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io> on behalf of John Kiely via Groups.Io <john_kiely@...>
Sent: 08 July 2018 22:25
To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
Subject: [Emco-CNC-Users] CNC Turn 55 Also Need Help
 
Hi guys I already posted a message asking for help but as the group was in the process of moving over things might have gone a bit awry.
Similar to another post I am also setting up a EMCO CNC Turn 55.
I have the emco RS485 Card a W95 computer and the software is already installed.
I need to test this machine, I haven't a clue as I have never operated this machine before.

Can anyone give me a a simple rundown on how to test this machine using the G-Code program?
Last thing I want is for the saddle to crash in to the chuck.
So a simple rundown on how to test and calibrate would be most useful.
I also need to know what the msd file is for?

Can anyone help?

Regards

John Kiely

Re: WTB - Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe ISA / PCI Card

marty_in_mesa
 

In the USA, Emco says they no longer have the RS485 cards.
Marty

On Jul 8, 2018 2:46 PM, "wild_kow" <jwild@...> wrote:

They are specific Emco cards for the PC50 and PC55 lathe/mills. The RS485 for the PC55 is a full length card needing the full length of the ISA slot - has a slot in the card contact connector. The PC50 card only uses the first section of the slot.


As far as I know, they are still available from Emco but cost in the region of £UK 700/800.


John




From: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io <Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io> on behalf of Manfred Vormbaum <manfredv1@...>
Sent: 08 July 2018 19:39
To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] WTB - Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe ISA / PCI Card
 
If I understand you it is a specific card for Emco.

In that case I my card will not be suitable.

Manfred

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 2:37 PM <androidge23@...> wrote:
It’s the dual rs485 card looks like the rest of the Emco cards. Only difference is the chip likely on the card is for the 55. Versus another model. Only way to know is if you knew where it came from and or try it


Re: WTB - Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe ISA / PCI Card

wild_kow
 

They are specific Emco cards for the PC50 and PC55 lathe/mills. The RS485 for the PC55 is a full length card needing the full length of the ISA slot - has a slot in the card contact connector. The PC50 card only uses the first section of the slot.


As far as I know, they are still available from Emco but cost in the region of £UK 700/800.


John




From: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io <Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io> on behalf of Manfred Vormbaum <manfredv1@...>
Sent: 08 July 2018 19:39
To: Emco-CNC-Users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Emco-CNC-Users] WTB - Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe ISA / PCI Card
 
If I understand you it is a specific card for Emco.

In that case I my card will not be suitable.

Manfred

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 2:37 PM <androidge23@...> wrote:
It’s the dual rs485 card looks like the rest of the Emco cards. Only difference is the chip likely on the card is for the 55. Versus another model. Only way to know is if you knew where it came from and or try it

CNC Turn 55 Also Need Help

John Kiely
 

Hi guys I already posted a message asking for help but as the group was in the process of moving over things might have gone a bit awry.
Similar to another post I am also setting up a EMCO CNC Turn 55.
I have the emco RS485 Card a W95 computer and the software is already installed.
I need to test this machine, I haven't a clue as I have never operated this machine before.

Can anyone give me a a simple rundown on how to test this machine using the G-Code program?
Last thing I want is for the saddle to crash in to the chuck.
So a simple rundown on how to test and calibrate would be most useful.
I also need to know what the msd file is for?

Can anyone help?

Regards

John Kiely

Re: WTB - Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe ISA / PCI Card

androidge23@...
 

that is correct

Re: WINNC

androidge23@...
 

That was a bust, it doesn’t seem to care about the serial number. The commands below are for winconfig selections I was able to validate. More head scratching revealed missing 16 pin connectors on the back of the machine cards. Inspecting other images of the wires for other 50’s showed those cards connected with ribbon cables. Mine are missing. I pray this will solve the issue. 

Re: WTB - Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe ISA / PCI Card

Manfred Vormbaum
 

If I understand you it is a specific card for Emco.

In that case I my card will not be suitable.

Manfred

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 2:37 PM <androidge23@...> wrote:
It’s the dual rs485 card looks like the rest of the Emco cards. Only difference is the chip likely on the card is for the 55. Versus another model. Only way to know is if you knew where it came from and or try it

Re: WTB - Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe ISA / PCI Card

androidge23@...
 

It’s the dual rs485 card looks like the rest of the Emco cards. Only difference is the chip likely on the card is for the 55. Versus another model. Only way to know is if you knew where it came from and or try it

Re: WTB - Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe ISA / PCI Card

Manfred Vormbaum
 

Can you give us an idea of what type of card that would be?

I have an ISA I/O card but have no idea whether it is PC Turn compatible.

Manfred

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 1:49 PM <androidge23@...> wrote:
Among my other projects this summer, fixing a pc turn 55 I bought before this 50 that ended up getting abused prior to delivery. Long story short, don't paypal direct anything of value, you will loose if its a lemon.
One of the parts missing was the software and the card. I have since found the software thanks to numerous helpful people but no one seems to have an extra or no longer needed card for a 55.
If anyone has the PC Turn 55 lathe compatible card,   please email me or reply here. I'll make you an offer.

WTB - Emco PC Turn 55 Lathe ISA / PCI Card

androidge23@...
 

Among my other projects this summer, fixing a pc turn 55 I bought before this 50 that ended up getting abused prior to delivery. Long story short, don't paypal direct anything of value, you will loose if its a lemon.
One of the parts missing was the software and the card. I have since found the software thanks to numerous helpful people but no one seems to have an extra or no longer needed card for a 55.
If anyone has the PC Turn 55 lathe compatible card,   please email me or reply here. I'll make you an offer.