Ya the book is only a couple of hundred pages printed on both sides.  Shouldn’t cost over$150 bucks to get it printed.  LOL

 

Ed.. AB4IQ

 

i printed it with my old trusty okidata c5500N ( bought on the bay for 150 full of toners ),,,

took it to staples  they put covers and a plastic binding on it for 6 or 7 $

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mel Marcus
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 2:01 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

 

so the smart person would download it and have it properly printed , therefore paying about 1/3 of that ridiculous price.

 

Mel

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book
From: "redarlington" <rdarlington@...>
Date: Thu, May 28, 2020 11:22 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

I don't mean to sound like I'm knocking you or anybody else.  That was far from my intent so I apologize.  To the others that responded, yeah, it was sixty bucks.   It's not a bad book, but it's very basic.  I also did buy one of those spiral bound "Nifty" guides with the laminated paper.  I guess I outgrew it quickly because I haven't seen it since I bought it.   Gotta dig it up so I can keep it with the go kit.

 

That said, I do find myself referring to the manual (online, pdf version) from time to time because I need to know a specific detail on a menu setting or how an input works.   That "line in" really threw me off when I plugged in a DR-7800 pactor modem.  The rig refuses to take input from the sound card!  Why?   I solved the problem by moving the connector over to the unused microphone input on the back and carried on with life instead of hacking up the input board.  

 

Purchase Details
Description: E740243_K3S/P3 Book from Fred Cady
Unit price: $45.00 USD
Qty: 1
Amount: $45.00 USD
Subtotal: $45.00 USD
Shipping and handling: $18.03 USD
Total: $63.03 USD
Payment: $63.03 USD

 

Anyway, 73 all!

 

-Bob N3XKB

 

 

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:35 AM Christopher Scibelli via groups.io <nu1oscar=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Since you quoted me I'll respond.  I got the $60 from somebody who participated in this topic.  I assumed he knew what the price of the book was/is since he seemed to be an owner..  I've never bought a K3 manual.  I found the manual provided by Elecraft to be sufficient and the K3 wasn't my first radio so I found much to be intuitive. 

If $25 is the actual cost I still wouldn't buy it but not for cost reasons.  I simply didn't need a supplement to the user manual. A good book can be priceless.  My copy of the "Intelligent Investor" would be one of those books.

73,

Chris  NU1O
-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389

On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:

$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

 

-Bob

 

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:

I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred

I printed mine on better than printed book paper stock on the printer in the other room, front and back, added my own front/back cover designs, et al.
Less than $10 in paper AND ink costs....

For about half that price, I published it in a 1/4 format handbook size for disposable/field use.

Actually, since I use HP Instant Ink now, it's likely even cheaper than that...

I could bind it in hard-cover for about twice that myself.... but why would I want to do that?  Lay flat binders are awesome...

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 05/28/20 16:13, Ed Pflueger wrote:

Ya the book is only a couple of hundred pages printed on both sides.  Shouldn’t cost over$150 bucks to get it printed.  LOL

 

Ed.. AB4IQ

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mel Marcus
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 2:01 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

 

so the smart person would download it and have it properly printed , therefore paying about 1/3 of that ridiculous price.

 

Mel

Ya the book is only a couple of hundred pages printed on both sides.  Shouldn’t cost over$150 bucks to get it printed.  LOL

 

Ed.. AB4IQ

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mel Marcus
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 2:01 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

 

so the smart person would download it and have it properly printed , therefore paying about 1/3 of that ridiculous price.

 

Mel

http://www.ke7x.com/the-elecraft-k3s-book/order-k3s-books 

It says it right there.  Book available only through Elecraft.  I don't have any interest in having a PDF printed and bound.  If you guys do, then by all means knock yourselves out.  I find reference material in electronic format to be really annoying until it comes to searching.  A comprehensive index in a book and we break even.

88's  this time,

-Bob

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 1:01 PM Mel Marcus <melm@...> wrote:

so the smart person would download it and have it properly printed , therefore paying about 1/3 of that ridiculous price.

Mel

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book
From: "redarlington" <rdarlington@...>
Date: Thu, May 28, 2020 11:22 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

I don't mean to sound like I'm knocking you or anybody else.  That was far from my intent so I apologize.  To the others that responded, yeah, it was sixty bucks.   It's not a bad book, but it's very basic.  I also did buy one of those spiral bound "Nifty" guides with the laminated paper.  I guess I outgrew it quickly because I haven't seen it since I bought it.   Gotta dig it up so I can keep it with the go kit.

That said, I do find myself referring to the manual (online, pdf version) from time to time because I need to know a specific detail on a menu setting or how an input works.   That "line in" really threw me off when I plugged in a DR-7800 pactor modem.  The rig refuses to take input from the sound card!  Why?   I solved the problem by moving the connector over to the unused microphone input on the back and carried on with life instead of hacking up the input board.  

Purchase Details
Description: E740243_K3S/P3 Book from Fred Cady
Unit price: $45.00 USD
Qty: 1
Amount: $45.00 USD
Subtotal: $45.00 USD
Shipping and handling: $18.03 USD
Total: $63.03 USD
Payment: $63.03 USD

Anyway, 73 all!

-Bob N3XKB

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:35 AM Christopher Scibelli via groups.io <nu1oscar=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Since you quoted me I'll respond.  I got the $60 from somebody who participated in this topic.  I assumed he knew what the price of the book was/is since he seemed to be an owner..  I've never bought a K3 manual.  I found the manual provided by Elecraft to be sufficient and the K3 wasn't my first radio so I found much to be intuitive. 

If $25 is the actual cost I still wouldn't buy it but not for cost reasons.  I simply didn't need a supplement to the user manual. A good book can be priceless.  My copy of the "Intelligent Investor" would be one of those books.

73,

Chris  NU1O
-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389

On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:

$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:

I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book
From: "redarlington" <rdarlington@...>
Date: Thu, May 28, 2020 11:22 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

I don't mean to sound like I'm knocking you or anybody else.  That was far from my intent so I apologize.  To the others that responded, yeah, it was sixty bucks.   It's not a bad book, but it's very basic.  I also did buy one of those spiral bound "Nifty" guides with the laminated paper.  I guess I outgrew it quickly because I haven't seen it since I bought it.   Gotta dig it up so I can keep it with the go kit.

 

That said, I do find myself referring to the manual (online, pdf version) from time to time because I need to know a specific detail on a menu setting or how an input works.   That "line in" really threw me off when I plugged in a DR-7800 pactor modem.  The rig refuses to take input from the sound card!  Why?   I solved the problem by moving the connector over to the unused microphone input on the back and carried on with life instead of hacking up the input board.  

 

Purchase Details
Description: E740243_K3S/P3 Book from Fred Cady
Unit price: $45.00 USD
Qty: 1
Amount: $45.00 USD
Subtotal: $45.00 USD
Shipping and handling: $18.03 USD
Total: $63.03 USD
Payment: $63.03 USD

 

Anyway, 73 all!

 

-Bob N3XKB

 

 

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:35 AM Christopher Scibelli via groups.io <nu1oscar=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Since you quoted me I'll respond.  I got the $60 from somebody who participated in this topic.  I assumed he knew what the price of the book was/is since he seemed to be an owner..  I've never bought a K3 manual.  I found the manual provided by Elecraft to be sufficient and the K3 wasn't my first radio so I found much to be intuitive. 

If $25 is the actual cost I still wouldn't buy it but not for cost reasons.  I simply didn't need a supplement to the user manual. A good book can be priceless.  My copy of the "Intelligent Investor" would be one of those books.

73,

Chris  NU1O
-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389

On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:

$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

 

-Bob

 

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:

I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book
From: "redarlington" <rdarlington@...>
Date: Thu, May 28, 2020 11:22 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

I don't mean to sound like I'm knocking you or anybody else.  That was far from my intent so I apologize.  To the others that responded, yeah, it was sixty bucks.   It's not a bad book, but it's very basic.  I also did buy one of those spiral bound "Nifty" guides with the laminated paper.  I guess I outgrew it quickly because I haven't seen it since I bought it.   Gotta dig it up so I can keep it with the go kit.

That said, I do find myself referring to the manual (online, pdf version) from time to time because I need to know a specific detail on a menu setting or how an input works.   That "line in" really threw me off when I plugged in a DR-7800 pactor modem.  The rig refuses to take input from the sound card!  Why?   I solved the problem by moving the connector over to the unused microphone input on the back and carried on with life instead of hacking up the input board.  

Purchase Details
Description: E740243_K3S/P3 Book from Fred Cady
Unit price: $45.00 USD
Qty: 1
Amount: $45.00 USD
Subtotal: $45.00 USD
Shipping and handling: $18.03 USD
Total: $63.03 USD
Payment: $63.03 USD

Anyway, 73 all!

-Bob N3XKB

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:35 AM Christopher Scibelli via groups.io <nu1oscar=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Since you quoted me I'll respond.  I got the $60 from somebody who participated in this topic.  I assumed he knew what the price of the book was/is since he seemed to be an owner..  I've never bought a K3 manual.  I found the manual provided by Elecraft to be sufficient and the K3 wasn't my first radio so I found much to be intuitive. 

If $25 is the actual cost I still wouldn't buy it but not for cost reasons.  I simply didn't need a supplement to the user manual. A good book can be priceless.  My copy of the "Intelligent Investor" would be one of those books.

73,

Chris  NU1O
-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389

On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:

$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:

I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book
From: "redarlington" <rdarlington@...>
Date: Thu, May 28, 2020 11:22 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

I don't mean to sound like I'm knocking you or anybody else.  That was far from my intent so I apologize.  To the others that responded, yeah, it was sixty bucks.   It's not a bad book, but it's very basic.  I also did buy one of those spiral bound "Nifty" guides with the laminated paper.  I guess I outgrew it quickly because I haven't seen it since I bought it.   Gotta dig it up so I can keep it with the go kit.

That said, I do find myself referring to the manual (online, pdf version) from time to time because I need to know a specific detail on a menu setting or how an input works.   That "line in" really threw me off when I plugged in a DR-7800 pactor modem.  The rig refuses to take input from the sound card!  Why?   I solved the problem by moving the connector over to the unused microphone input on the back and carried on with life instead of hacking up the input board.  

Purchase Details
Description: E740243_K3S/P3 Book from Fred Cady
Unit price: $45.00 USD
Qty: 1
Amount: $45.00 USD
Subtotal: $45.00 USD
Shipping and handling: $18.03 USD
Total: $63.03 USD
Payment: $63.03 USD

Anyway, 73 all!

-Bob N3XKB

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:35 AM Christopher Scibelli via groups.io <nu1oscar=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Since you quoted me I'll respond.  I got the $60 from somebody who participated in this topic.  I assumed he knew what the price of the book was/is since he seemed to be an owner..  I've never bought a K3 manual.  I found the manual provided by Elecraft to be sufficient and the K3 wasn't my first radio so I found much to be intuitive. 

If $25 is the actual cost I still wouldn't buy it but not for cost reasons.  I simply didn't need a supplement to the user manual. A good book can be priceless.  My copy of the "Intelligent Investor" would be one of those books.

73,

Chris  NU1O
-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389

On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:

$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:

I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred

I wasn't offended but you quoted me so I replied.  What is disinformation?  The $60 price tag looks to be accurate.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 1:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I wasn't dinging you specifically, Chris.  My apologies if you took it that way.  I simply saw your post/response and decided to step in and correct that bit of disinformation being passed around.

Have a nice day!  (And BTW, I find the Elecraft documentation to be well-suited for its purpose as well. I was a "new" operator and 1st time Elecraft Customer "back then", so I chose to educated myself from multiple approaches.  That said, there IS information in the Cady Books that is not in the Elecraft manuals, or not covered in detail sufficiently.  As I said, to this day, I still find new to me/useful information in Fred's pubs every time I read them.)

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 05/28/20 10:35, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:

Since you quoted me I'll respond.  I got the $60 from somebody who participated in this topic.  I assumed he knew what the price of the book was/is since he seemed to be an owner..  I've never bought a K3 manual.  I found the manual provided by Elecraft to be sufficient and the K3 wasn't my first radio so I found much to be intuitive. 

If $25 is the actual cost I still wouldn't buy it but not for cost reasons.  I simply didn't need a supplement to the user manual. A good book can be priceless.  My copy of the "Intelligent Investor" would be one of those books.

73,

Chris  NU1O
-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:

$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:

I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred

Since you quoted me I'll respond.  I got the $60 from somebody who participated in this topic.  I assumed he knew what the price of the book was/is since he seemed to be an owner..  I've never bought a K3 manual.  I found the manual provided by Elecraft to be sufficient and the K3 wasn't my first radio so I found much to be intuitive. 

If $25 is the actual cost I still wouldn't buy it but not for cost reasons.  I simply didn't need a supplement to the user manual. A good book can be priceless.  My copy of the "Intelligent Investor" would be one of those books.

73,

Chris  NU1O
-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:

$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:

I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book
From: "Clay Autery" <KY5G@...>
Date: Thu, May 28, 2020 9:56 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389

On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:

$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:

I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:

$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:

I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred

$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:

I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred

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