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internal tuners sold out

Chuck Miller
 
Edited

Checked with Elecraft to see about ordering an internal tuner for my old K3. Sorry all gone. Guess I waited a little too long.
Chuck, N0NC

ke9uw
 

Rats. That seems kind of premature...

 

Chuck,

I have a lab spare that's fully functional that I'll send you. What's your address?

Wayne
N6KR

On Jan 10, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Chuck Miller <cwmiller20@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Checked with Elecraft to see about ordering an internal tuner for my old K3. Sorry all gone. Guess I waited a little too long.
Chuck, N0NC

Clay Autery
 

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay

southdaleus
 

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay


southdaleus
 

Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

Dale, K9VUJ



On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay



Dave Cole
 

I was wondering the same thing... Hopefully Wayne will come in and clear up what is happening.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 1/11/20 3:33 PM, dalej via Groups.Io wrote:
Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??
Dale, K9VUJ
On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2=mac.com@groups.io <mailto:dalej2=mac.com@groups.io>> wrote:
It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.
Dale, K9VUJ
On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@... <mailto:KY5G@...>> wrote:
Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.
I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...
*Here's the status I got on December 30th*:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)
* KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
* KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
* K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time. Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for
purchase from vendor.
* K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
* KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
* KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did
not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy
them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
* KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S
filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this
time but they will probably go fast
* SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined
whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
*AFTER MY order....*
* I got the last *KRX3A* NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year
factory warranty)
* Got one of the *KBPF3A*, but they have plenty.
* *K144xv*, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
* *K144rflk*, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in
stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
* *KFL3A-6K*, I got another one...  more limited now.
* *KFL3a-2.8*, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in
Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
* *KFL3A-400*, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole
with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only
6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD
and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW
synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST
the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the
heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another
$170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand
having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2
receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
* *SP3*, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.
73,
Clay

Ed Pflueger
 

Probably a new product I would assume.  I just sent my K3 2971 off to them for a minor repair and check out and it wasn’t a big deal.  Having a 13 year old rig and still top of the line in performance is.  If you haven’t bought one in 13 years you apparently didn’t need it.  Hi

 

Ed AB4IQ

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of dalej via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 5:33 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] internal tuners sold out

 

Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

 

Dale, K9VUJ

 

 

 

On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

 

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

 

Dale, K9VUJ

 

 

 

On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

 

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.

AFTER MY order....

  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay

 

 

NS2N_PTA@outlook.com
 

I also surprised by this ... I think of the K3S as a "new" radio. Was going to upgrade one of my elder K3 rigs, but if stuff isn't available ... for repair/replacement ...

Besides, is the K4 tuner so radically different than a K3 model? I'd have thought they were identical .. that tuner is not a weak point in the system. Or was it?


From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> on behalf of dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 6:33:00 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] internal tuners sold out
 
Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

Dale, K9VUJ



On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay



Clay Autery
 

That right there is the definition of AWESOMENESS!!!

THIS is why I am an Elecrafter....

______________________
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(318) 518-1389
On 01/11/20 12:35, N6KR wrote:

Chuck,

I have a lab spare that's fully functional that I'll send you. What's your address?

Wayne
N6KR



On Jan 10, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Chuck Miller <cwmiller20@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Checked with Elecraft to see about ordering an internal tuner for my old K3. Sorry all gone. Guess I waited a little too long.
Chuck, N0NC




southdaleus
 

My only a guess, is it’s the change of *contractors* to employees per the California state law, plus additional requirments for small businesses in California.  I would advise Elecraft to reform their business to another state which is more small business frendly. Maybe Texas for one.  

Plus, you won’t have to deal with an earthquake that is coming sometime in the future.  

Cheers

Dale, K9VUJ

 

On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:40, NS2N_PTA@... wrote:

I also surprised by this ... I think of the K3S as a "new" radio. Was going to upgrade one of my elder K3 rigs, but if stuff isn't available ... for repair/replacement ...

Besides, is the K4 tuner so radically different than a K3 model? I'd have thought they were identical .. that tuner is not a weak point in the system. Or was it?


From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> on behalf of dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 6:33:00 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] internal tuners sold out
 
Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

Dale, K9VUJ



On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay




southdaleus
 

I was going to order a couple of items, SP3, but when I found the shipping from California was $36, I said forget it.  Why is UPS shipping for a small light box to be $36??

The SP3 is a very good speaker, but at $200 (rounded off) then add another $36 for shipping, it’s too much.  

Dale, K9VUJ

On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:53, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

My only a guess, is it’s the change of *contractors* to employees per the California state law, plus additional requirments for small businesses in California.  I would advise Elecraft to reform their business to another state which is more small business frendly. Maybe Texas for one.  

Plus, you won’t have to deal with an earthquake that is coming sometime in the future.  

Cheers

Dale, K9VUJ

 

On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:40, NS2N_PTA@... wrote:

I also surprised by this ... I think of the K3S as a "new" radio. Was going to upgrade one of my elder K3 rigs, but if stuff isn't available ... for repair/replacement ...

Besides, is the K4 tuner so radically different than a K3 model? I'd have thought they were identical .. that tuner is not a weak point in the system. Or was it?


From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> on behalf of dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 6:33:00 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] internal tuners sold out
 
Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

Dale, K9VUJ



On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay





Clay Autery
 

Hardly....  I cannot imagine the overhead required to support the entire K3s K-line an then also the New K4 (in all its permutations) and the KPA-1500, etc, etc...

The K3 has had a wonderfully successful run.  I've stuffed mine full of every option I can find, and look forward to several more decades of using it until I pass it on to one of my children.

Now to work on a strategy to create a "need" for a K4HD/KPA1500 combo....  <big smile>

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 01/11/20 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io wrote:

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay


Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

The K3 radio is 10 years old and is a discontinued model.   The KX line is much newer and the K4 series is even newer.   I see this as a normal business model and activity. 

Bob, K4TAX



On Jan 11, 2020, at 5:45 PM, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

Dale, K9VUJ



On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay



southdaleus
 

K4?  Not me.  If I wanted a rig with that same design Id by a 7610 for half the price.  For now, I’ll stick with the K3 of which I have two.  

Cheers
Dale, K9VUJ


On 11, Jan 2020, at 18:12, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Hardly....  I cannot imagine the overhead required to support the entire K3s K-line an then also the New K4 (in all its permutations) and the KPA-1500, etc, etc...

The K3 has had a wonderfully successful run.  I've stuffed mine full of every option I can find, and look forward to several more decades of using it until I pass it on to one of my children.

Now to work on a strategy to create a "need" for a K4HD/KPA1500 combo....  <big smile>

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 01/11/20 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io wrote:
It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay



southdaleus
 

I suppse as for the “business model”, but for the rest of us it’s called an abandoment in some way.  However I’ll stick with the K3/K3s as long as the parts are available, then move on to something else, Icom perhaps.  

Dale, K9VUJ


On 11, Jan 2020, at 18:41, Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcgraw@...> wrote:

The K3 radio is 10 years old and is a discontinued model.   The KX line is much newer and the K4 series is even newer.   I see this as a normal business model and activity. 

Bob, K4TAX



On Jan 11, 2020, at 5:45 PM, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

Dale, K9VUJ



On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay




 

Greetings all,

The K4 is the replacement for the K3S + P3. This is a long-planned transition, and we've gradually drawn down stocks of the latter, including all options.

I'm sorry we can't provide options for all of our legacy products indefinitely. But we will of course continue to repair and otherwise support them.

We have three complete transceiver product lines aside from the K3S: The ultraportable KX2, its larger brother the KX3 (used by many hams as a compact home station), and the K4, our first hybrid-SDR desktop radio (with matching KPA1500 amp). All are very much active and will be for the foreseeable future.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

Clay Autery
 

It is so unnecessary to get "butt hurt" over the natural product cycle.  Jut because some of the major assemblies may not be continually stocked on the K3, certainly does not mean that anyone is "abandoning" anyone.
Come on people.... that's simply unfair to say, and highly inaccurate.

I'm sorry I posted to this thread now. 

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 01/11/20 19:16, dalej via Groups.Io wrote:

I suppse as for the “business model”, but for the rest of us it’s called an abandoment in some way.  However I’ll stick with the K3/K3s as long as the parts are available, then move on to something else, Icom perhaps.  

Dale, K9VUJ


On 11, Jan 2020, at 18:41, Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcgraw@...> wrote:

The K3 radio is 10 years old and is a discontinued model.   The KX line is much newer and the K4 series is even newer.   I see this as a normal business model and activity. 

Bob, K4TAX



On Jan 11, 2020, at 5:45 PM, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

 Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

Dale, K9VUJ



On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay

_._,_._,_

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

All sounds good to me. Forward progress is always favorable.

Bob, K4TAX

On Jan 11, 2020, at 9:30 PM, N6KR <n6kr@...> wrote:

Greetings all,

The K4 is the replacement for the K3S + P3. This is a long-planned transition, and we've gradually drawn down stocks of the latter, including all options.

I'm sorry we can't provide options for all of our legacy products indefinitely. But we will of course continue to repair and otherwise support them.

We have three complete transceiver product lines aside from the K3S: The ultraportable KX2, its larger brother the KX3 (used by many hams as a compact home station), and the K4, our first hybrid-SDR desktop radio (with matching KPA1500 amp). All are very much active and will be for the foreseeable future.

73,
Wayne
N6KR




southdaleus
 

Hi Wayne,

I wish you good luck with the K4, however already owning a K3 and a K3s I have no plans to purchase the K4. Too many rigs already, like cameras.. If I didn’t already have two K3’s I would be in the mood…as the song goes.

I was going to purchase another SP-3 as I really like the one I have. I was all set to hit the buy button until I seen the cost to ship via UPS, $36.84. For a light weight item and not that big, $36.84 seems outragous. Is this a correct price for shipping via UPS or is it a typo? I see the other shipping option is via USPS Priority two day, $38.79. I just double checked and my eyes weren’t deceiving me. I can’t imagine how much shipping a KPA1500 would be.

73
Dale, K9VUJ

On 11, Jan 2020, at 21:18, N6KR <n6kr@...> wrote:

Greetings all,

The K4 is the replacement for the K3S + P3. This is a long-planned transition, and we've gradually drawn down stocks of the latter, including all options.

I'm sorry we can't provide options for all of our legacy products indefinitely. But we will of course continue to repair and otherwise support them.

We have three complete transceiver product lines aside from the K3S: The ultraportable KX2, its larger brother the KX3 (used by many hams as a compact home station), and the K4, our first hybrid-SDR desktop radio (with matching KPA1500 amp). All are very much active and will be for the foreseeable future.

73,
Wayne
N6KR