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Re: K3 repairs

Ray Maxfield
 

HI Chet……..

I think He Already has…. That is Why he is asking For Help !

Do the The 3 Finder Test !   Ray  WA6VAB 

 

 

From: Keith_WE6R
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 9:04 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 repairs

 

Hi Chet;
Sub RX filter settings will NOT affect transmit.
But if there was a glitch, certainly check the MAIN filters. The filters with TX settings are important.

NOTE to ALL; on the 3-Finger FET test!!! Do NOT go into transmit!! You can cook the FETs. 
Just TAP XMIT to turn on the BIAS only! (Red LED will be on, with NO RF going out).

If you have a KAT3, check the L10-C10 8.215 trap. It can get burnt and affect some bands. If burnt, just put a jumper in place of L10.
Also inspect the LPF components on the RF board under the KPA3 (pull the KPA3). Look around L20 or check the schematic for the components for your trouble band.
Keith WE6R Elecraft K3 Tech.

 


Re: K3 repairs

Keith_WE6R
 

Hi Chet;
Sub RX filter settings will NOT affect transmit.
But if there was a glitch, certainly check the MAIN filters. The filters with TX settings are important.

NOTE to ALL; on the 3-Finger FET test!!! Do NOT go into transmit!! You can cook the FETs. 
Just TAP XMIT to turn on the BIAS only! (Red LED will be on, with NO RF going out).

If you have a KAT3, check the L10-C10 8.215 trap. It can get burnt and affect some bands. If burnt, just put a jumper in place of L10.
Also inspect the LPF components on the RF board under the KPA3 (pull the KPA3). Look around L20 or check the schematic for the components for your trouble band.
Keith WE6R Elecraft K3 Tech.


Re: K3 repairs

Dave (NK7Z)
 

I must thank you and Joe S... I have picked up two new tips on my radio as a result of reading this thread!! Both of which made it in to my save file...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 11/10/20 6:02 PM, Robert W5AJ wrote:
Chet, before doing total reset try checking FETs with the simple
Hot/Warm/Cold test suggested by Ray
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K3/message/32891?p=,,,20,0,0,0::relevance,,Cold
,20,2,0,74706396
In case the link doesn't work, Ray's email inserted here:
........
Hi Robert.... I would look for a bad Driver Fet Transistor
There are 3 Fets that are Heat sinked to the bottom of the radio.
Check your manual for the Correct location..
They are connected to the bottom plate for use as a Heat sink
Using Phillips head screws....
Place the radio so it is raised up using the Front Bail.
Place your fingers on the 3 Screw that are holding the 3 Fets.
Key the PTT so the XT is on. All 3 should get Warm, Not HOT
Or Cold. Hot= Shorted, Cold Open, Warm Operation normal.
I found one of my Fets was Cold.. Give it a try... Ray WA6VAB
..........................
While the band which failed the 5watt TX calibration failure here, sounds
similar
Based on prior postings on reflector, using a K3 on FT8 at 11 or 12 watt
output maybe possible cause of failure of the driver FETs
I found similar - one COLD FET, replaced, all happy (my recommendation is
get replacement FET from Elecraft or RFParts)
GL! 73 and Good DX
73 W5AJ
Robert
Midland, Texas
http://w5aj.eqth.net/Infinity.pdf
-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Chet, N8RA
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 12:18 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] K3 repairs
Good afternoon K3 folks,
Recently my K3 has experienced a couple of issues. I have been unable to get
a response from Elecraft e-mail or telephone service regarding the
situation. It's been almost two weeks now so thought I'd ask here if anyone
has some suggestions for me to try myself.
Here is the main concern:
When getting ready for CQWWDX SSB a few weeks ago, I went through setting
the transmit power on each band to drive an amplifier properly. The power
display seemed a bit sluggish and had a delay in indicating the SWR. Worse
yet, when I got to 40M, I could not crank the power up past about 30 watts;
it would momentarily display a higher number but then fall back to 30w. All
other bands cold be set higher.
First I reloaded all the current firmware in the main and subreceiver. No
change to 40M.
So next I went to the K3 Utility ver 1.20.1.15 to do a transmitter gain
calibration. Starting with the 5W calibration, it stepped thru the first few
bands OK but then stopped (I think on 40M) and displayed "ERR TXG" and the
message "calibration settled at 3.6W, TX gain failed because transmit power
did not reach the expected value".
In anticipation of having to send the radio to Elecraft where it might be
totally reset, I manually started recording all the configuration settings.
When I looked at my filter settings, I was shocked to see that filter 1 in
the subreceiver was set to 1.35. Huh? It should have been 2.80 !! Was my
config info corrupted? I reset that to 2.80 and then for the heck of it
tried again to set the power on 40M. That now worked "OK" and the swr and
pwr display during "tune" showed instantly on all bands. Something had
changed.
Next, I decided to rerun the TX calibration gain routine. This time if
successfully completed the 5w and 50w routines. However, with a good dummy
load, 40M displays an swr of 1.4, while the other bands are 1.0 or 1.1, so
something is still a little funny on 40M. What might that be?
I have now been considering doing a total reset of the radio using the EE
INIT function and then the self calibrations. Is this wise?
Any experiences or suggestions appreciated.
73,
Chet, N8RA


K3 repairs

Robert W5AJ
 

Chet, before doing total reset try checking FETs with the simple
Hot/Warm/Cold test suggested by Ray
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K3/message/32891?p=,,,20,0,0,0::relevance,,Cold
,20,2,0,74706396

In case the link doesn't work, Ray's email inserted here:
........
Hi Robert.... I would look for a bad Driver Fet Transistor
There are 3 Fets that are Heat sinked to the bottom of the radio.
Check your manual for the Correct location..
They are connected to the bottom plate for use as a Heat sink
Using Phillips head screws....
Place the radio so it is raised up using the Front Bail.
Place your fingers on the 3 Screw that are holding the 3 Fets.
Key the PTT so the XT is on. All 3 should get Warm, Not HOT
Or Cold. Hot= Shorted, Cold Open, Warm Operation normal.
I found one of my Fets was Cold.. Give it a try... Ray WA6VAB
..........................

While the band which failed the 5watt TX calibration failure here, sounds
similar
Based on prior postings on reflector, using a K3 on FT8 at 11 or 12 watt
output maybe possible cause of failure of the driver FETs
I found similar - one COLD FET, replaced, all happy (my recommendation is
get replacement FET from Elecraft or RFParts)

GL! 73 and Good DX

73 W5AJ

Robert
Midland, Texas
http://w5aj.eqth.net/Infinity.pdf

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Chet, N8RA
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 12:18 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] K3 repairs

Good afternoon K3 folks,

Recently my K3 has experienced a couple of issues. I have been unable to get
a response from Elecraft e-mail or telephone service regarding the
situation. It's been almost two weeks now so thought I'd ask here if anyone
has some suggestions for me to try myself.

Here is the main concern:

When getting ready for CQWWDX SSB a few weeks ago, I went through setting
the transmit power on each band to drive an amplifier properly. The power
display seemed a bit sluggish and had a delay in indicating the SWR. Worse
yet, when I got to 40M, I could not crank the power up past about 30 watts;
it would momentarily display a higher number but then fall back to 30w. All
other bands cold be set higher.

First I reloaded all the current firmware in the main and subreceiver. No
change to 40M.

So next I went to the K3 Utility ver 1.20.1.15 to do a transmitter gain
calibration. Starting with the 5W calibration, it stepped thru the first few
bands OK but then stopped (I think on 40M) and displayed "ERR TXG" and the
message "calibration settled at 3.6W, TX gain failed because transmit power
did not reach the expected value".

In anticipation of having to send the radio to Elecraft where it might be
totally reset, I manually started recording all the configuration settings.
When I looked at my filter settings, I was shocked to see that filter 1 in
the subreceiver was set to 1.35. Huh? It should have been 2.80 !! Was my
config info corrupted? I reset that to 2.80 and then for the heck of it
tried again to set the power on 40M. That now worked "OK" and the swr and
pwr display during "tune" showed instantly on all bands. Something had
changed.

Next, I decided to rerun the TX calibration gain routine. This time if
successfully completed the 5w and 50w routines. However, with a good dummy
load, 40M displays an swr of 1.4, while the other bands are 1.0 or 1.1, so
something is still a little funny on 40M. What might that be?

I have now been considering doing a total reset of the radio using the EE
INIT function and then the self calibrations. Is this wise?

Any experiences or suggestions appreciated.

73,
Chet, N8RA


(lightly used / Brand New) K3S from Elecraft?

VE9AA - Mike
 

Some months back (probably before Covid)  I saw an email(?) from Elecraft--maybe not on this reflector, but somewhere and I forget the exact verbiage, but the essence of the message was that they would have a limited supply of K3S' available for sale.

I never did see them after checking the Elecraft website every couple weeks for a month or so, so I emailed Wayne.

Wayne replied to me that they weren't available yet and he had CC'd Eric for a response which never came.

Hey-they are busy guys...I get it.  I wasn't about to 'hassle' them about it

My question is......did this limited batch of lightly used K3S' ever come up for sale?

I don't recall why I think this, but somewhere in the depths of my mind I thought perhaps they were coming back from DXpeditions or something.

I have one early K3 fully loaded and was very casually looking for another, or maybe a K3S...guess I just waited too long.....and so that's where I am at.

Maybe they went in the blink of an eye...not sure.  I only checked the website every 2-3 weeks back 6-8 months ago.

Just curious.

Tnx all....stay safe...be well.....CU (all of a sudden) on the air

Mike VE9AA


Re: K3 K3S Parts

VE9AA - Mike
 

Well put Drew !


On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 11:32 AM, Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA wrote:
You guys are dreaming.  

No ham manufacturer carries board assembly level spares and accessories for 5 years after production, much less 20.  Elecraft still repairs the radios, thus, they are supported.  Nothing requires that you throw them away.  Nothing is a brick.  Elecraft never made any promise beyond what they are doing.  You can buy all the components level parts and fix it yourself, or you can send it in.

Please name another manufacturer that does any better.  Certainly not Kenwood, Icom, Yaesu, TenTec.  Not Alpha.  Not SIgnal/One.  Not Flex.  Anything Chinese?  Hardly.  Nor Drake, Heath, Hallicrafters, Hammerlund, National, Globe, Eldico, Eico.  Even Collins had limits.  Who are you going to buy from?  

Sure, I would like them to carry every part, forever, but it is an unreasonable expectation. Elecraft is a bit better than most, they gave a last buy warming and a sign up sheet.  Tell me who else even did that?

I'm not a fanboy.  My K3 is not even my favorite transceiver,, merely a pretty good one.  But the attacks here are unfair to a company trying to do its best, while making a profit.  A profit, by the way, is requred to stay in business.  Do all of you work for free?

73,


Re: K3 K3S Parts

W2XJ
 

To what? Context?


On Nov 10, 2020, at 4:59 PM, SGS 126 <brloper@...> wrote:

Agree


K3 repairs

Chet, N8RA
 

Good afternoon K3 folks,

Recently my K3 has experienced a couple of issues. I have been unable to get
a response from Elecraft e-mail or telephone service regarding the
situation. It's been almost two weeks now so thought I'd ask here if anyone
has some suggestions for me to try myself.

Here is the main concern:

When getting ready for CQWWDX SSB a few weeks ago, I went through setting
the transmit power on each band to drive an amplifier properly. The power
display seemed a bit sluggish and had a delay in indicating the SWR. Worse
yet, when I got to 40M, I could not crank the power up past about 30 watts;
it would momentarily display a higher number but then fall back to 30w. All
other bands cold be set higher.

First I reloaded all the current firmware in the main and subreceiver. No
change to 40M.

So next I went to the K3 Utility ver 1.20.1.15 to do a transmitter gain
calibration. Starting with the 5W calibration, it stepped thru the first few
bands OK but then stopped (I think on 40M) and displayed "ERR TXG" and the
message "calibration settled at 3.6W, TX gain failed because transmit power
did not reach the expected value".

In anticipation of having to send the radio to Elecraft where it might be
totally reset, I manually started recording all the configuration settings.
When I looked at my filter settings, I was shocked to see that filter 1 in
the subreceiver was set to 1.35. Huh? It should have been 2.80 !! Was my
config info corrupted? I reset that to 2.80 and then for the heck of it
tried again to set the power on 40M. That now worked "OK" and the swr and
pwr display during "tune" showed instantly on all bands. Something had
changed.

Next, I decided to rerun the TX calibration gain routine. This time if
successfully completed the 5w and 50w routines. However, with a good dummy
load, 40M displays an swr of 1.4, while the other bands are 1.0 or 1.1, so
something is still a little funny on 40M. What might that be?

I have now been considering doing a total reset of the radio using the EE
INIT function and then the self calibrations. Is this wise?

Any experiences or suggestions appreciated.

73,
Chet, N8RA


Elecraft service.

KE1F Lou
 

I manage to do something real dumb to my KP500 using WSJT mode.

After contacting Elecraft and describing the error codes, I received Return authorization.

I had my KPA500 for 10 years, I didn't have the original box after learning that I can order one from Elecraft (a well hidden secret among the parts list) I received the box in 3 days

I mailed the amp and on Friday and arrived in Ca. on Tuesday, Oct 20th. On November 3rd, I was informed the the amp is fixed. UPS delivered the amp on November 10, today.

The amp is back in good working order.

I received with the amp  a detailed "work performed written report, including upgrades and mods.

This report contains the following information in detail:

Reported Problem

Problem found

Repairs performed

Upgrades and mods performed

Tests performed (including a 14 hours burn-in


The report is signed by the the Elecraft technician performed the repair and test.

You can't beat that service for the price Elecraft charged.

Thanks Elecraft.

73, Lou KE1F


Re: K3 K3S Parts

SGS 126
 

Agree


Re: KAT500 Fuse

Dave (NK7Z)
 

I would like one as well if you are sending them out...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 11/10/20 6:08 AM, Stuart wrote:
My KAT500 has blown the 250mA fuse. I have looked on the Elecraft website, but I am unable to find a schematic for the tuner, does anyone have a PDF of this they could email to me?
Thanks in advance.
Stuart, GD0OUD.


Re: K3 K3S Parts

Patrick Novak
 



On 11/11/2020 02:32, Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA wrote:
You guys are dreaming.  

No ham manufacturer carries board assembly level spares and accessories for 5 years after production, much less 20.  Elecraft still repairs the radios, thus, they are supported.  Nothing requires that you throw them away.  Nothing is a brick.  Elecraft never made any promise beyond what they are doing.  You can buy all the components level parts and fix it yourself, or you can send it in.

Please name another manufacturer that does any better.  Certainly not Kenwood, Icom, Yaesu, TenTec.  Not Alpha.  Not SIgnal/One.  Not Flex.  Anything Chinese?  Hardly.  Nor Drake, Heath, Hallicrafters, Hammerlund, National, Globe, Eldico, Eico.  Even Collins had limits.  Who are you going to buy from?  

Sure, I would like them to carry every part, forever, but it is an unreasonable expectation. Elecraft is a bit better than most, they gave a last buy warming and a sign up sheet.  Tell me who else even did that?

I'm not a fanboy.  My K3 is not even my favorite transceiver,, merely a pretty good one.  But the attacks here are unfair to a company trying to do its best, while making a profit.  A profit, by the way, is requred to stay in business.  Do all of you work for free?

73,


Re: K3 K3S Parts

Kent Trimble, K9ZTV
 

And Drew's excellent post should be the end of this thread.

For years Ten-Tec said they would repair any product back to the very first one, but the fine print said as long as parts were available.

Il Finis.

73,

Kent  K9ZTV



On 11/10/2020 9:32 AM, Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA wrote:
You guys are dreaming.  

No ham manufacturer carries board assembly level spares and accessories for 5 years after production, much less 20.  Elecraft still repairs the radios, thus, they are supported.  Nothing requires that you throw them away.  Nothing is a brick.  Elecraft never made any promise beyond what they are doing.  You can buy all the components level parts and fix it yourself, or you can send it in.

Please name another manufacturer that does any better.  Certainly not Kenwood, Icom, Yaesu, TenTec.  Not Alpha.  Not SIgnal/One.  Not Flex.  Anything Chinese?  Hardly.  Nor Drake, Heath, Hallicrafters, Hammerlund, National, Globe, Eldico, Eico.  Even Collins had limits.  Who are you going to buy from?  

Sure, I would like them to carry every part, forever, but it is an unreasonable expectation. Elecraft is a bit better than most, they gave a last buy warming and a sign up sheet.  Tell me who else even did that?

I'm not a fanboy.  My K3 is not even my favorite transceiver,, merely a pretty good one.  But the attacks here are unfair to a company trying to do its best, while making a profit.  A profit, by the way, is requred to stay in business.  Do all of you work for free?

73,


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: K3 K3S Parts

Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA
 

You guys are dreaming.  

No ham manufacturer carries board assembly level spares and accessories for 5 years after production, much less 20.  Elecraft still repairs the radios, thus, they are supported.  Nothing requires that you throw them away.  Nothing is a brick.  Elecraft never made any promise beyond what they are doing.  You can buy all the components level parts and fix it yourself, or you can send it in.

Please name another manufacturer that does any better.  Certainly not Kenwood, Icom, Yaesu, TenTec.  Not Alpha.  Not SIgnal/One.  Not Flex.  Anything Chinese?  Hardly.  Nor Drake, Heath, Hallicrafters, Hammerlund, National, Globe, Eldico, Eico.  Even Collins had limits.  Who are you going to buy from?  

Sure, I would like them to carry every part, forever, but it is an unreasonable expectation. Elecraft is a bit better than most, they gave a last buy warming and a sign up sheet.  Tell me who else even did that?

I'm not a fanboy.  My K3 is not even my favorite transceiver,, merely a pretty good one.  But the attacks here are unfair to a company trying to do its best, while making a profit.  A profit, by the way, is requred to stay in business.  Do all of you work for free?

73,


Re: K3 K3S Parts

Peter Howson
 

Ken,

 

Waters & Stanton are the UK agents, although I have never used them as my K2 & K3 were bought direct before they became agents, and they are signed up with Elecraft to carry out repairs etc no matter where the rig was sourced.

 

It would be good for UK Elecraft users for Waters & Stanton to comment.

 

73,

Peter

GM8GAX

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of redarlington
Sent: 10 November 2020 14:31
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts

 

I stand by my statement.  Also, elecraft continues to do in house repairs.

 

-Bob

 

On Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 12:57 AM <gt0hof@...> wrote:

Bob, you have missed the point! Some of us hams are disabled and can’t repair electronic at the component level. I suffer with severe arthritis  and have trouble seeing SMD’s let a lone repair a board. The Elecraft K3 & K3s are plug & play which is great, but as soon as boards go wrong, then us disabled hams are stuffed.

No this is not Germany, but it doesn’t matter where in the world or what the product is, we need to know our purchases will last and get spares, otherwise this will be the first and last time I buy an Elecraft. Pete has just said he works for a Danish Electronics company, which holds spares for 10 years or more. So your argument is doesn’t hold water.

 

Ken B G0HOF

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Pete Block
Sent: 09 November 2020 01:15
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts

 

I worked for a Danish electronics firm (Bang & Olufsen). We ,too, maintained a parts back up for at least 10 years. If a serious problem arose we’d try very hard to get necessary parts from other sources and in some cases have them made.

Pete

W2MGE

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of redarlington
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 11:04 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts

 

This isn't Germany.  These aren't cars.  Digikey carries every part in the radio with few exceptions.   

 

-Bob N3XKB

 

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020, 6:25 PM <gt0hof@...> wrote:

Elecraft should supply spare part for the K3/K3s for at least 10 years after production ends. If these transceivers were cars they WILL have spares for 10 years after the model has gone out of production. In Germany it is law to have spare for 10 years for cars. Are Elecraft just in it for the money? I hope not. As Bob has said these are NOT throw away items. I spent over £5000 4 years ago and if I can’t get spares to repair my K3s I’ll be pissed off to say the least. I would love to have a K4, but I’m retired and have limited funds now I’m not working and I don’t think I’m the only one.

 

Ken B G0HOF

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gerard
Sent: 06 November 2020 23:26
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts

 

Bob, that has nothing to do with customer support.  A K3 and K3S should have full support for 10-20yrs.   They are not disposable radios. I'm if I had a Maserati, Ferrari I'd expect the best parts and service Is Elecraft a street company or top range. 😁

 

On Fri 6 Nov 2020, 15:47 Bob Hammond G4DBW via groups.io, <bobatbay=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Another thought on this one .... once the K4 starts rolling off the production line in significant numbers, I would predict we will see more K3 and K3S appear on the second hand market. Will owners separate out the extras from the basic K3 K3S and sell thiese as stand alone boards/ filters ? 

From what I see on ebay there is more money to be made selling these used boards/ filters as separates, which do not necessarlily add the same value to a complete radio.

73

Bob G4DBW

 

 


Re: K3 K3S Parts

redarlington <rdarlington@...>
 

I stand by my statement.  Also, elecraft continues to do in house repairs.

-Bob

On Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 12:57 AM <gt0hof@...> wrote:

Bob, you have missed the point! Some of us hams are disabled and can’t repair electronic at the component level. I suffer with severe arthritis  and have trouble seeing SMD’s let a lone repair a board. The Elecraft K3 & K3s are plug & play which is great, but as soon as boards go wrong, then us disabled hams are stuffed.

No this is not Germany, but it doesn’t matter where in the world or what the product is, we need to know our purchases will last and get spares, otherwise this will be the first and last time I buy an Elecraft. Pete has just said he works for a Danish Electronics company, which holds spares for 10 years or more. So your argument is doesn’t hold water.

 

Ken B G0HOF

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Pete Block
Sent: 09 November 2020 01:15
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts

 

I worked for a Danish electronics firm (Bang & Olufsen). We ,too, maintained a parts back up for at least 10 years. If a serious problem arose we’d try very hard to get necessary parts from other sources and in some cases have them made.

Pete

W2MGE

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of redarlington
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 11:04 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts

 

This isn't Germany.  These aren't cars.  Digikey carries every part in the radio with few exceptions.   

 

-Bob N3XKB

 

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020, 6:25 PM <gt0hof@...> wrote:

Elecraft should supply spare part for the K3/K3s for at least 10 years after production ends. If these transceivers were cars they WILL have spares for 10 years after the model has gone out of production. In Germany it is law to have spare for 10 years for cars. Are Elecraft just in it for the money? I hope not. As Bob has said these are NOT throw away items. I spent over £5000 4 years ago and if I can’t get spares to repair my K3s I’ll be pissed off to say the least. I would love to have a K4, but I’m retired and have limited funds now I’m not working and I don’t think I’m the only one.

 

Ken B G0HOF

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gerard
Sent: 06 November 2020 23:26
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts

 

Bob, that has nothing to do with customer support.  A K3 and K3S should have full support for 10-20yrs.   They are not disposable radios. I'm if I had a Maserati, Ferrari I'd expect the best parts and service Is Elecraft a street company or top range. 😁

 

On Fri 6 Nov 2020, 15:47 Bob Hammond G4DBW via groups.io, <bobatbay=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Another thought on this one .... once the K4 starts rolling off the production line in significant numbers, I would predict we will see more K3 and K3S appear on the second hand market. Will owners separate out the extras from the basic K3 K3S and sell thiese as stand alone boards/ filters ? 

From what I see on ebay there is more money to be made selling these used boards/ filters as separates, which do not necessarlily add the same value to a complete radio.

73

Bob G4DBW

 

 


KAT500 Fuse

GD0OUD
 

My KAT500 has blown the 250mA fuse. I have looked on the Elecraft website, but I am unable to find a schematic for the tuner, does anyone have a PDF of this they could email to me?

Thanks in advance.

Stuart, GD0OUD.


Re: K3 K3S Parts

gt0hof@...
 

Bob, you have missed the point! Some of us hams are disabled and can’t repair electronic at the component level. I suffer with severe arthritis  and have trouble seeing SMD’s let a lone repair a board. The Elecraft K3 & K3s are plug & play which is great, but as soon as boards go wrong, then us disabled hams are stuffed.

No this is not Germany, but it doesn’t matter where in the world or what the product is, we need to know our purchases will last and get spares, otherwise this will be the first and last time I buy an Elecraft. Pete has just said he works for a Danish Electronics company, which holds spares for 10 years or more. So your argument is doesn’t hold water.

 

Ken B G0HOF

 

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From: Pete Block
Sent: 09 November 2020 01:15
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts

 

I worked for a Danish electronics firm (Bang & Olufsen). We ,too, maintained a parts back up for at least 10 years. If a serious problem arose we’d try very hard to get necessary parts from other sources and in some cases have them made.

Pete

W2MGE

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of redarlington
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 11:04 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts

 

This isn't Germany.  These aren't cars.  Digikey carries every part in the radio with few exceptions.   

 

-Bob N3XKB

 

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020, 6:25 PM <gt0hof@...> wrote:

Elecraft should supply spare part for the K3/K3s for at least 10 years after production ends. If these transceivers were cars they WILL have spares for 10 years after the model has gone out of production. In Germany it is law to have spare for 10 years for cars. Are Elecraft just in it for the money? I hope not. As Bob has said these are NOT throw away items. I spent over £5000 4 years ago and if I can’t get spares to repair my K3s I’ll be pissed off to say the least. I would love to have a K4, but I’m retired and have limited funds now I’m not working and I don’t think I’m the only one.

 

Ken B G0HOF

 

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From: Gerard
Sent: 06 November 2020 23:26
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts

 

Bob, that has nothing to do with customer support.  A K3 and K3S should have full support for 10-20yrs.   They are not disposable radios. I'm if I had a Maserati, Ferrari I'd expect the best parts and service Is Elecraft a street company or top range. 😁

 

On Fri 6 Nov 2020, 15:47 Bob Hammond G4DBW via groups.io, <bobatbay=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Another thought on this one .... once the K4 starts rolling off the production line in significant numbers, I would predict we will see more K3 and K3S appear on the second hand market. Will owners separate out the extras from the basic K3 K3S and sell thiese as stand alone boards/ filters ? 

From what I see on ebay there is more money to be made selling these used boards/ filters as separates, which do not necessarlily add the same value to a complete radio.

73

Bob G4DBW

 

 


Re: K3S parts availability???

Dean LaClair
 

Snip<<<<<<<<<Fred,

The K3S was discontinued quite a while ago, just before the K4 hit the streets.



Has the K4 "Hit the streets" yet?

Dean K2WW

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020, 00:17 Fred-K0FG <kzerofg@...> wrote:
How long has the K3S been discontinued?   Or has it been discontinued?   Is it obsolete?   I have a K3 and a K3s.   The K3S recently took a surge during a storm that wiped out the KIO3B USB connectivity function.   Replacement parts are not available.   I am on a list to get one, if/when they decide to make more.   Do I just give up on the K3S?   Are they just pushing the K4.   Customer support did not say they don't have the parts in stock, they just said to put your name on the list so if they decide to make more they will let you know.  No estimated date of when they will even make the decision, let alone make the parts?   It all depends on demand???   Does not sound very comforting to me.    Yeah, I am very disappointed.
Fred, K0FG


Re: KPA3 output erratic

Chuck Miller
 

"I think I must have zapped to serial chip on the I/O board. Oh well, another part to change."

After spending sometime today troubleshooting, I found that the problem was related to the Rs-232 to USB convertor I was using. All better now. The radio and computer are talking again, the KAT3A is tuning again, and all is right with the world again. (well except for the COVID situation which has gotten worse here in Iowa lately.)

Thank all for the help and suggestions.
73, Chuck
N0NC

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