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Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

Barry Baines
 

Lou:

On Oct 8, 2020, at 12:51 PM, KE1F Lou <lmecseri@...> wrote:

Thank you guys for sharing your experiences with me.

I managed to remove the transformer which is 12.8 pounds and now my KPA500 is a light weight, only 11.8 pounds. Makes it much easier to ship. Took lots of pictures of the 8 connections involved with the transformer.

Before I go down (or up) to my FedExp packaging store, I would like to investigate one more option.

I noticed that the KPA500 dimensions are practically the same with my K3, except the fan. Removing the fan seems very easy (4 screws) however the disconnection of the black and red wires seems to be hard. 

Question: Have anybody removed that fan and how difficult procedure  is that?

If I can remove the fan, I could use the Elecraft box used by the Elecraft to return my K3 after upgrading it.

I hope one of you have this info.

Before you go down this rabbit hole, why not call Elecraft and see what they say about the advisability of removing the fan and the transformer?  I presume you’re returning the unit for repair, so one would think that they would want to receive your unit ‘as is’ without removing key components.  By removing items, you now force Elecraft to put back what you’ve removed, and that adds cost (e.g. time to reinstall what you removed, then removing those components before they ship back to you) and you could potentially cause further issues if you happen to cross a connection that you had removed when the unit is returned to you.  Who knows, the items you don’t include in the return may have a bearing on whatever ails the KPA500 (e.g. a manifestation of "Murphy’s Law.”)

Last comment:  If you ship the amp back to Elecraft in your K3 box, you’ve now lost the packaging for the K3.  Since you don’t have the KPA500 packaging, why not ship ‘as is’ (e.g. with transformer and fan properly installed) having the UPS store (or equivalent) do the packaging and then when the KPA500 is shipped back to you, ask Elecraft to ship it back in a KPA500 factory box?  That way, you have the proper packaging in the event you need to ship it again sometime in the future.

FWIW,

Barry, WD4ASW/1


73, Lou KE1F 



K3 Schematics

Robert
 

Hello All,
I am refering to the K3 Schematics at https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/Manuals%20Downloads/K3_Schematics_Jun_2010.pdf.
On page 35 (K3: AF Filter) the two inputs to the filters are TP1/AFIN1 and TP4/AFIN2 respectively. Where do these inputs connect to?
Can somebody tell me please the relevant page in the schematics file?
73, Robert


Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

KE1F Lou
 

Thank you guys for sharing your experiences with me.

I managed to remove the transformer which is 12.8 pounds and now my KPA500 is a light weight, only 11.8 pounds. Makes it much easier to ship. Took lots of pictures of the 8 connections involved with the transformer.

Before I go down (or up) to my FedExp packaging store, I would like to investigate one more option.

I noticed that the KPA500 dimensions are practically the same with my K3, except the fan. Removing the fan seems very easy (4 screws) however the disconnection of the black and red wires seems to be hard.

Question: Have anybody removed that fan and how difficult procedure  is that?

If I can remove the fan, I could use the Elecraft box used by the Elecraft to return my K3 after upgrading it.

I hope one of you have this info.

73, Lou KE1F

On 10/8/2020 11:51 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:

I had to ship my factory built KPA500 back to the factory for warranty service twice in the first year.

 

The first time, I used the original packaging.

 

They returned it to me in new packaging, and I used that the second time.

 

Neither time did I remove the transformer.  Shipments both ways were via UPS (insured).

 

No problems in the shipping process (except it was expensive).

 

73

Lyn, W0LEN

 

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of KE1F Lou
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 4:07 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

 

 

 

I have to ship my KPA500 from Florida to the factory for repair.

I am sure others had to do the same.

This is a heavy piece of equipment. 

I would appreciate advise from other's who done that before.

73, Lou KE1F 

 

Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A


K3, microHAM microKeyerII, WSJT-X, on 30m

Chris Cox, N0UK
 

Good day, one and all.

I finally got my K3 working with WSJT-X/RumLogNG running on my macOS box and connected via the microKeyer II sound card to the K3’s line-in/out connectors.

It took some struggling with the various configuration files to get WSJT-X to correctly interface with the RumLog’s built-in Microham router code but it’s working - except on 10MHz.

I can’t see any band-specific differences in the K3’s config but in data mode, the software won’t key up on that band. Also, if I try to force the rig into transmit using the XMIT button, the rig doesn’t switch to transmit and the display shows the generic N/A error message.

The whole system works on every other band I’ve tried (40, 20, 17, and 10 metres) but will not seem to work on 30.

Any thoughts?

Chris Cox, N0UK
@n0uk


Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

Lyn Norstad
 

I had to ship my factory built KPA500 back to the factory for warranty service twice in the first year.

 

The first time, I used the original packaging.

 

They returned it to me in new packaging, and I used that the second time.

 

Neither time did I remove the transformer.  Shipments both ways were via UPS (insured).

 

No problems in the shipping process (except it was expensive).

 

73

Lyn, W0LEN

 

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of KE1F Lou
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 4:07 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

 

 

 

I have to ship my KPA500 from Florida to the factory for repair.

I am sure others had to do the same.

This is a heavy piece of equipment. 

I would appreciate advise from other's who done that before.

73, Lou KE1F 

 

Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A


Re: K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs [not from dirty paddle contacts]

Charlie T, k3ICH
 

Gotta be internal eh?

 

Open it up and look at the solder connection for the DAH on the paddle input.

 

73, Charlie k3ICH

 

 

 

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of K1dj via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2020 8:52 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs [not from dirty paddle contacts]

 

In response to Quin and Jim's suggestion, I have just cleaned the paddle contacts.  No joy, unfortunately.  Still no dahs.

 

Has anyone else had the problem and traced it down to an internal problem?

 

73 - Rich, K1DJ

 

 


Re: K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs [not from dirty paddle contacts]

Henk PA0C
 

Hi Rich

Measure the connection from paddle to RFC3 and RFC4 at the main board within the K3.
You can also measure to pin 4 and 5 of the front panel connector.

That will show yes/no proper connectivity to the Dot/Dash input.

73 Henk
PA0C

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Onderwerp: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs [not from dirty paddle contacts]

In response to Quin and Jim's suggestion, I have just cleaned the paddle contacts.  No joy, unfortunately.  Still no dahs.

Has anyone else had the problem and traced it down to an internal problem?

73 - Rich, K1DJ


-----Original Message-----
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To: q.g.collier@... <q.g.collier@...>; Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2020 8:33 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

The paddle contacts are still working fine when the paddles are connected to other devices or my ohmmeter, but I will certainly try cleaning them to see if that helps them to communicate better with the K3S.  Thanks.

Rich, K1DJ


-----Original Message-----
From: QUENTIN COLLIER via groups.io <q.g.collier@...>
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2020 8:04 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

Yes - well worth a try...whenever mine goes loopy (over and above my personal incompetence that is) just pulling a bit of paper between the paddle contacts invariably does the biz.


73, Quin G3WRR



------ Original Message ------
From: "KE8G" <ke8g.jim@...>
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 8 Oct, 20 At 12:52
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

Hi Rich,
Sorry to hear about your problem.

Have you tried cleaning the paddle contacts?

73 de Jim - KE8G

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 7:28 AM K1dj via groups.io <k1dj=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
My K3S s/n 11064 has a new problem, which first occurred on Sunday October 4, 2020.

My primary mode is CW, and since the radio arrived in December 2016, I have been relying primarily on the internal keyer for manual keying. This past Sunday, the internal keyer stopped sending dahs, i.e., stopped responding when I keyed dahs. As currently set up, my paddles are connected directly to the paddle jack on the back of the radio, using the default configuration with dits on the tip, and dahs on the ring, of the stereo plug. I have checked the wiring at the paddles and plug ends of my insulated cable, and confirmed that it is intact. So I believe the problem is inside the K3S. It could be as simple as a defective or dirty socket, or an open connection to the ring of the socket, which does not appear to be accessible without substantial disassembly of the radio. Or I am wondering if it might reflect some kind of software issue instead.

The internal CW memories have not been affected. The radio can still be keyed electronically via my logging software (N1MM+). And as, hopefully, a temporary work-around, I have wired a WinKey USB in parallel with my straight key and have successfully keyed the radio with that.

Please let me know if you have had this problem with your K3S (or K3), and if so, how you diagnosed and solved it?

Thanks and 73 -

Rich, K1DJ





Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

Bill Maddock
 

My KPA500 came as one piece !

73 de Bill WW5M 




On Thursday, October 8, 2020, 7:38 AM, Jeffrey griffin <kb2mjeff@...> wrote:

Hi Barry. So I’m going to assume that the box they shipped my amp back in is sturdy enough to also ship the amp with the transformer installed? I’m up north for a few more weeks and the shipping box is in Florida. I’ll have to take a good look at it when I get back down there to make sure…

 

73 Jeff kb2m

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Baines via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 8:15 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

 

Jeff:

 

My Elecraft shipping boxes are stored at the shack in SE Georgia and I won’t be back there until November when I can do a physical verification.  My recollection is ’no’ as I don’t recall installing a transformer.  The KPA500 manual (Revision D, 24 DEC 13) does not mention installing the transformer, only installing the fuses and setting the “mains” on pp 5-9.

 

73,

 

Barry, WD4ASW/1  



On Oct 8, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Jeffrey griffin <kb2mjeff@...> wrote:

 

I recently sent my KPA500 back for repair and as I purchased it as a kit I had no packing! I did remove the transformer after I determined with Elecraft it wasn’t the problem. I boxed it up well  with foam packing, and brought it to a UPS store and had them double box it before shipping. When it was returned Elecraft packed it like they would a new amp  they shipped. So now I have an assembled amp shipping box. Just curious, does Elecraft ship a new amp in two boxes  with the transformer packed separately?

 

73 Jeff kb2m

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Baines via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:11 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

 

 




On Oct 7, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Richard Williams via groups.io <k8ztt@...> wrote:

 

I agree; for a high value item that is heavy, I use the UPS store or FedEx.  I think when you use one of these, any damage claims are honored.

 

Not to pick on Lou,  Richard or anyone else, but didn’t anyone save the boxes/packing material that the KPA1500 and other high value gear was shipped?  As a rule, I keep the boxes/packing materials that my high value equipment was shipped to me so that I would have the proper materials to return the item for repair, or ship the new owner if I was selling.  I don’t have a KPA-1500, but I do have all of the boxes for my K3-P3-KPA-500 and KAT-500 as well as my Flex gear (5000, 6700, PGXL).  I have in fact sent the K3 to Elecraft for upgrades, the 6700 to Flex for warranty work, the PGXL to Flex for warranty work, and when I had a Alpha 9500 it was shipped to RF Concepts for repair (lightning damage).  

 

No need to have ‘professional packing’ when you had ‘right packing material’ shipped to you in the first place and you’ve already paid for it {e.g. "The packing material for the KPA1500 cost $5,995.00 and they threw in the amplifier for free"….  ;-)   }

 

FWIW,

 

 

Barry, WD4ASW/1

 

 




 

Had a couple issues with my KPA1500 way back, and found it more economical to tear out the board in need of repair and send it back; rather than send back the whole amp and insure the shipping.  Since the board probably weighed less than a pound, I packed it myself; but I would not do that if I had to send back the amp.

 

If Elecraft doesn't need the whole amp to fix your problem, you might remove the board that is the problem, and send that back.  It will save you a buck or two.

 

Dick, K8ZTT

 

Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man. 

What is first, you ask? Landing, of course.

"A good aviator will always have his take-offs plus landings divisible by 2!"

 

 


Re: K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs [not from dirty paddle contacts]

K1dj
 

In response to Quin and Jim's suggestion, I have just cleaned the paddle contacts.  No joy, unfortunately.  Still no dahs.

Has anyone else had the problem and traced it down to an internal problem?

73 - Rich, K1DJ


-----Original Message-----
From: K1dj via groups.io <k1dj@...>
To: q.g.collier@... <q.g.collier@...>; Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2020 8:33 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

The paddle contacts are still working fine when the paddles are connected to other devices or my ohmmeter, but I will certainly try cleaning them to see if that helps them to communicate better with the K3S.  Thanks.

Rich, K1DJ


-----Original Message-----
From: QUENTIN COLLIER via groups.io <q.g.collier@...>
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2020 8:04 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

Yes - well worth a try...whenever mine goes loopy (over and above my personal incompetence that is) just pulling a bit of paper between the paddle contacts invariably does the biz.


73, Quin G3WRR



------ Original Message ------
From: "KE8G" <ke8g.jim@...>
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 8 Oct, 20 At 12:52
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

Hi Rich,
Sorry to hear about your problem.

Have you tried cleaning the paddle contacts?

73 de Jim - KE8G

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 7:28 AM K1dj via groups.io <k1dj=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
My K3S s/n 11064 has a new problem, which first occurred on Sunday October 4, 2020.

My primary mode is CW, and since the radio arrived in December 2016, I have been relying primarily on the internal keyer for manual keying. This past Sunday, the internal keyer stopped sending dahs, i.e., stopped responding when I keyed dahs. As currently set up, my paddles are connected directly to the paddle jack on the back of the radio, using the default configuration with dits on the tip, and dahs on the ring, of the stereo plug. I have checked the wiring at the paddles and plug ends of my insulated cable, and confirmed that it is intact. So I believe the problem is inside the K3S. It could be as simple as a defective or dirty socket, or an open connection to the ring of the socket, which does not appear to be accessible without substantial disassembly of the radio. Or I am wondering if it might reflect some kind of software issue instead.

The internal CW memories have not been affected. The radio can still be keyed electronically via my logging software (N1MM+). And as, hopefully, a temporary work-around, I have wired a WinKey USB in parallel with my straight key and have successfully keyed the radio with that.

Please let me know if you have had this problem with your K3S (or K3), and if so, how you diagnosed and solved it?

Thanks and 73 -

Rich, K1DJ





Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

Jeffrey griffin
 

Hi Barry. So I’m going to assume that the box they shipped my amp back in is sturdy enough to also ship the amp with the transformer installed? I’m up north for a few more weeks and the shipping box is in Florida. I’ll have to take a good look at it when I get back down there to make sure…

 

73 Jeff kb2m

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Baines via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 8:15 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

 

Jeff:

 

My Elecraft shipping boxes are stored at the shack in SE Georgia and I won’t be back there until November when I can do a physical verification.  My recollection is ’no’ as I don’t recall installing a transformer.  The KPA500 manual (Revision D, 24 DEC 13) does not mention installing the transformer, only installing the fuses and setting the “mains” on pp 5-9.

 

73,

 

Barry, WD4ASW/1  



On Oct 8, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Jeffrey griffin <kb2mjeff@...> wrote:

 

I recently sent my KPA500 back for repair and as I purchased it as a kit I had no packing! I did remove the transformer after I determined with Elecraft it wasn’t the problem. I boxed it up well  with foam packing, and brought it to a UPS store and had them double box it before shipping. When it was returned Elecraft packed it like they would a new amp  they shipped. So now I have an assembled amp shipping box. Just curious, does Elecraft ship a new amp in two boxes  with the transformer packed separately?

 

73 Jeff kb2m

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Baines via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:11 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

 

 




On Oct 7, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Richard Williams via groups.io <k8ztt@...> wrote:

 

I agree; for a high value item that is heavy, I use the UPS store or FedEx.  I think when you use one of these, any damage claims are honored.

 

Not to pick on Lou,  Richard or anyone else, but didn’t anyone save the boxes/packing material that the KPA1500 and other high value gear was shipped?  As a rule, I keep the boxes/packing materials that my high value equipment was shipped to me so that I would have the proper materials to return the item for repair, or ship the new owner if I was selling.  I don’t have a KPA-1500, but I do have all of the boxes for my K3-P3-KPA-500 and KAT-500 as well as my Flex gear (5000, 6700, PGXL).  I have in fact sent the K3 to Elecraft for upgrades, the 6700 to Flex for warranty work, the PGXL to Flex for warranty work, and when I had a Alpha 9500 it was shipped to RF Concepts for repair (lightning damage).  

 

No need to have ‘professional packing’ when you had ‘right packing material’ shipped to you in the first place and you’ve already paid for it {e.g. "The packing material for the KPA1500 cost $5,995.00 and they threw in the amplifier for free"….  ;-)   }

 

FWIW,

 

 

Barry, WD4ASW/1

 

 




 

Had a couple issues with my KPA1500 way back, and found it more economical to tear out the board in need of repair and send it back; rather than send back the whole amp and insure the shipping.  Since the board probably weighed less than a pound, I packed it myself; but I would not do that if I had to send back the amp.

 

If Elecraft doesn't need the whole amp to fix your problem, you might remove the board that is the problem, and send that back.  It will save you a buck or two.

 

Dick, K8ZTT

 

Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man. 

What is first, you ask? Landing, of course.

"A good aviator will always have his take-offs plus landings divisible by 2!"

 

 


Re: K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

K1dj
 

The paddle contacts are still working fine when the paddles are connected to other devices or my ohmmeter, but I will certainly try cleaning them to see if that helps them to communicate better with the K3S.  Thanks.

Rich, K1DJ


-----Original Message-----
From: QUENTIN COLLIER via groups.io <q.g.collier@...>
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2020 8:04 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

Yes - well worth a try...whenever mine goes loopy (over and above my personal incompetence that is) just pulling a bit of paper between the paddle contacts invariably does the biz.


73, Quin G3WRR



------ Original Message ------
From: "KE8G" <ke8g.jim@...>
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 8 Oct, 20 At 12:52
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

Hi Rich,
Sorry to hear about your problem.

Have you tried cleaning the paddle contacts?

73 de Jim - KE8G

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 7:28 AM K1dj via groups.io <k1dj=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
My K3S s/n 11064 has a new problem, which first occurred on Sunday October 4, 2020.

My primary mode is CW, and since the radio arrived in December 2016, I have been relying primarily on the internal keyer for manual keying. This past Sunday, the internal keyer stopped sending dahs, i.e., stopped responding when I keyed dahs. As currently set up, my paddles are connected directly to the paddle jack on the back of the radio, using the default configuration with dits on the tip, and dahs on the ring, of the stereo plug. I have checked the wiring at the paddles and plug ends of my insulated cable, and confirmed that it is intact. So I believe the problem is inside the K3S. It could be as simple as a defective or dirty socket, or an open connection to the ring of the socket, which does not appear to be accessible without substantial disassembly of the radio. Or I am wondering if it might reflect some kind of software issue instead.

The internal CW memories have not been affected. The radio can still be keyed electronically via my logging software (N1MM+). And as, hopefully, a temporary work-around, I have wired a WinKey USB in parallel with my straight key and have successfully keyed the radio with that.

Please let me know if you have had this problem with your K3S (or K3), and if so, how you diagnosed and solved it?

Thanks and 73 -

Rich, K1DJ





Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

Barry Baines
 

Jeff:

My Elecraft shipping boxes are stored at the shack in SE Georgia and I won’t be back there until November when I can do a physical verification.  My recollection is ’no’ as I don’t recall installing a transformer.  The KPA500 manual (Revision D, 24 DEC 13) does not mention installing the transformer, only installing the fuses and setting the “mains” on pp 5-9.

73,

Barry, WD4ASW/1  

On Oct 8, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Jeffrey griffin <kb2mjeff@...> wrote:

I recently sent my KPA500 back for repair and as I purchased it as a kit I had no packing! I did remove the transformer after I determined with Elecraft it wasn’t the problem. I boxed it up well  with foam packing, and brought it to a UPS store and had them double box it before shipping. When it was returned Elecraft packed it like they would a new amp  they shipped. So now I have an assembled amp shipping box. Just curious, does Elecraft ship a new amp in two boxes  with the transformer packed separately?
 
73 Jeff kb2m
 
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Baines via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:11 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.
 
 


On Oct 7, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Richard Williams via groups.io <k8ztt@...> wrote:
 
I agree; for a high value item that is heavy, I use the UPS store or FedEx.  I think when you use one of these, any damage claims are honored.
 
Not to pick on Lou,  Richard or anyone else, but didn’t anyone save the boxes/packing material that the KPA1500 and other high value gear was shipped?  As a rule, I keep the boxes/packing materials that my high value equipment was shipped to me so that I would have the proper materials to return the item for repair, or ship the new owner if I was selling.  I don’t have a KPA-1500, but I do have all of the boxes for my K3-P3-KPA-500 and KAT-500 as well as my Flex gear (5000, 6700, PGXL).  I have in fact sent the K3 to Elecraft for upgrades, the 6700 to Flex for warranty work, the PGXL to Flex for warranty work, and when I had a Alpha 9500 it was shipped to RF Concepts for repair (lightning damage).  
 
No need to have ‘professional packing’ when you had ‘right packing material’ shipped to you in the first place and you’ve already paid for it {e.g. "The packing material for the KPA1500 cost $5,995.00 and they threw in the amplifier for free"….  ;-)   }
 
FWIW,
 
 
Barry, WD4ASW/1
 
 


 
Had a couple issues with my KPA1500 way back, and found it more economical to tear out the board in need of repair and send it back; rather than send back the whole amp and insure the shipping.  Since the board probably weighed less than a pound, I packed it myself; but I would not do that if I had to send back the amp.
 
If Elecraft doesn't need the whole amp to fix your problem, you might remove the board that is the problem, and send that back.  It will save you a buck or two.
 
Dick, K8ZTT
 
Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man. 
What is first, you ask? Landing, of course.
"A good aviator will always have his take-offs plus landings divisible by 2!"
 



Re: K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

QUENTIN COLLIER
 

Yes - well worth a try...whenever mine goes loopy (over and above my personal incompetence that is) just pulling a bit of paper between the paddle contacts invariably does the biz.



73, Quin G3WRR




------ Original Message ------
From: "KE8G" <ke8g.jim@...>
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 8 Oct, 20 At 12:52
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

Hi Rich,
Sorry to hear about your problem.

Have you tried cleaning the paddle contacts?

73 de Jim - KE8G

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 7:28 AM K1dj via groups.io <k1dj=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
My K3S s/n 11064 has a new problem, which first occurred on Sunday October 4, 2020.

My primary mode is CW, and since the radio arrived in December 2016, I have been relying primarily on the internal keyer for manual keying. This past Sunday, the internal keyer stopped sending dahs, i.e., stopped responding when I keyed dahs. As currently set up, my paddles are connected directly to the paddle jack on the back of the radio, using the default configuration with dits on the tip, and dahs on the ring, of the stereo plug. I have checked the wiring at the paddles and plug ends of my insulated cable, and confirmed that it is intact. So I believe the problem is inside the K3S. It could be as simple as a defective or dirty socket, or an open connection to the ring of the socket, which does not appear to be accessible without substantial disassembly of the radio. Or I am wondering if it might reflect some kind of software issue instead.

The internal CW memories have not been affected. The radio can still be keyed electronically via my logging software (N1MM+). And as, hopefully, a temporary work-around, I have wired a WinKey USB in parallel with my straight key and have successfully keyed the radio with that.

Please let me know if you have had this problem with your K3S (or K3), and if so, how you diagnosed and solved it?

Thanks and 73 -

Rich, K1DJ





Re: K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

KE8G
 

Hi Rich,
Sorry to hear about your problem.

Have you tried cleaning the paddle contacts?

73 de Jim - KE8G

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 7:28 AM K1dj via groups.io <k1dj=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
My K3S s/n 11064 has a new problem, which first occurred on Sunday October 4, 2020.

My primary mode is CW, and since the radio arrived in December 2016, I have been relying primarily on the internal keyer for manual keying.  This past Sunday, the internal keyer stopped sending dahs, i.e., stopped responding when I keyed dahs.  As currently set up, my paddles are connected directly to the paddle jack on the back of the radio, using the default configuration with dits on the tip, and dahs on the ring, of the stereo plug.  I have checked the wiring at the paddles and plug ends of my insulated cable, and confirmed that it is intact.  So I believe the problem is inside the K3S.  It could be as simple as a defective or dirty socket, or an open connection to the ring of the socket, which does not appear to be accessible without substantial disassembly of the radio.  Or I am wondering if it might reflect some kind of software issue instead.

The internal CW memories have not been affected.  The radio can still be keyed electronically via my logging software (N1MM+).  And as, hopefully, a temporary work-around, I have wired a WinKey USB in parallel with my straight key and have successfully keyed the radio with that.

Please let me know if you have had this problem with your K3S (or K3), and if so, how you diagnosed and solved it?

Thanks and 73 -

Rich, K1DJ





Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

Jeffrey griffin
 

I recently sent my KPA500 back for repair and as I purchased it as a kit I had no packing! I did remove the transformer after I determined with Elecraft it wasn’t the problem. I boxed it up well  with foam packing, and brought it to a UPS store and had them double box it before shipping. When it was returned Elecraft packed it like they would a new amp  they shipped. So now I have an assembled amp shipping box. Just curious, does Elecraft ship a new amp in two boxes  with the transformer packed separately?

 

73 Jeff kb2m

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Baines via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:11 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

 

 



On Oct 7, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Richard Williams via groups.io <k8ztt@...> wrote:

 

I agree; for a high value item that is heavy, I use the UPS store or FedEx.  I think when you use one of these, any damage claims are honored.

 

Not to pick on Lou,  Richard or anyone else, but didn’t anyone save the boxes/packing material that the KPA1500 and other high value gear was shipped?  As a rule, I keep the boxes/packing materials that my high value equipment was shipped to me so that I would have the proper materials to return the item for repair, or ship the new owner if I was selling.  I don’t have a KPA-1500, but I do have all of the boxes for my K3-P3-KPA-500 and KAT-500 as well as my Flex gear (5000, 6700, PGXL).  I have in fact sent the K3 to Elecraft for upgrades, the 6700 to Flex for warranty work, the PGXL to Flex for warranty work, and when I had a Alpha 9500 it was shipped to RF Concepts for repair (lightning damage).  

 

No need to have ‘professional packing’ when you had ‘right packing material’ shipped to you in the first place and you’ve already paid for it {e.g. "The packing material for the KPA1500 cost $5,995.00 and they threw in the amplifier for free"….  ;-)   }

 

FWIW,

 

 

Barry, WD4ASW/1

 

 



 

Had a couple issues with my KPA1500 way back, and found it more economical to tear out the board in need of repair and send it back; rather than send back the whole amp and insure the shipping.  Since the board probably weighed less than a pound, I packed it myself; but I would not do that if I had to send back the amp.

 

If Elecraft doesn't need the whole amp to fix your problem, you might remove the board that is the problem, and send that back.  It will save you a buck or two.

 

Dick, K8ZTT

 

Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man.

What is first, you ask? Landing, of course.

"A good aviator will always have his take-offs plus landings divisible by 2!"

 


K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

K1dj
 

My K3S s/n 11064 has a new problem, which first occurred on Sunday October 4, 2020.

My primary mode is CW, and since the radio arrived in December 2016, I have been relying primarily on the internal keyer for manual keying.  This past Sunday, the internal keyer stopped sending dahs, i.e., stopped responding when I keyed dahs.  As currently set up, my paddles are connected directly to the paddle jack on the back of the radio, using the default configuration with dits on the tip, and dahs on the ring, of the stereo plug.  I have checked the wiring at the paddles and plug ends of my insulated cable, and confirmed that it is intact.  So I believe the problem is inside the K3S.  It could be as simple as a defective or dirty socket, or an open connection to the ring of the socket, which does not appear to be accessible without substantial disassembly of the radio.  Or I am wondering if it might reflect some kind of software issue instead.

The internal CW memories have not been affected.  The radio can still be keyed electronically via my logging software (N1MM+).  And as, hopefully, a temporary work-around, I have wired a WinKey USB in parallel with my straight key and have successfully keyed the radio with that.

Please let me know if you have had this problem with your K3S (or K3), and if so, how you diagnosed and solved it?

Thanks and 73 -

Rich, K1DJ





Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

Ray Maxfield
 

You MUST Check with the Company doing the Shipping

If the contents  will be Covered IF the Shipping Company does Not Pack the Item being Shipped.

FYI   WA6VAB

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Barry Baines via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 6:10 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

 

 



On Oct 7, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Richard Williams via groups.io <k8ztt@...> wrote:

 

I agree; for a high value item that is heavy, I use the UPS store or FedEx.  I think when you use one of these, any damage claims are honored.

 

Not to pick on Lou,  Richard or anyone else, but didn’t anyone save the boxes/packing material that the KPA1500 and other high value gear was shipped?  As a rule, I keep the boxes/packing materials that my high value equipment was shipped to me so that I would have the proper materials to return the item for repair, or ship the new owner if I was selling.  I don’t have a KPA-1500, but I do have all of the boxes for my K3-P3-KPA-500 and KAT-500 as well as my Flex gear (5000, 6700, PGXL).  I have in fact sent the K3 to Elecraft for upgrades, the 6700 to Flex for warranty work, the PGXL to Flex for warranty work, and when I had a Alpha 9500 it was shipped to RF Concepts for repair (lightning damage).  

 

No need to have ‘professional packing’ when you had ‘right packing material’ shipped to you in the first place and you’ve already paid for it {e.g. "The packing material for the KPA1500 cost $5,995.00 and they threw in the amplifier for free"….  ;-)   }

 

FWIW,

 

 

Barry, WD4ASW/1

 

 



 

Had a couple issues with my KPA1500 way back, and found it more economical to tear out the board in need of repair and send it back; rather than send back the whole amp and insure the shipping.  Since the board probably weighed less than a pound, I packed it myself; but I would not do that if I had to send back the amp.

 

If Elecraft doesn't need the whole amp to fix your problem, you might remove the board that is the problem, and send that back.  It will save you a buck or two.

 

Dick, K8ZTT

 

Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man.

What is first, you ask? Landing, of course.

"A good aviator will always have his take-offs plus landings divisible by 2!"

 

 


Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

Dan Abell
 

FedEx “foam packs”?  Not sure than anyone uses that method anymore.   Regardless having FedEx pack the amp is good insurance if FedEx will assume all liability.   For those that have suggesting using the original packing materials read the following from FedEx on reusing these materials https://www.fedex.com/content/dam/fedex/us-united-states/services/Computer_fxcom.pdf
Dan w3dka

On Oct 7, 2020, at 8:03 PM, KE1F Lou <lmecseri@...> wrote:


Thank you for your advice,  I will do it.

73, Lou KE1F 



Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A

-------- Original message --------
From: SGS 126 <brloper@...>
Date: 10/7/20 5:29 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

I would have Fedex foam pack it, it’s not as expensive as you might think


Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

Barry Baines
 



On Oct 7, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Richard Williams via groups.io <k8ztt@...> wrote:

I agree; for a high value item that is heavy, I use the UPS store or FedEx.  I think when you use one of these, any damage claims are honored.

Not to pick on Lou,  Richard or anyone else, but didn’t anyone save the boxes/packing material that the KPA1500 and other high value gear was shipped?  As a rule, I keep the boxes/packing materials that my high value equipment was shipped to me so that I would have the proper materials to return the item for repair, or ship the new owner if I was selling.  I don’t have a KPA-1500, but I do have all of the boxes for my K3-P3-KPA-500 and KAT-500 as well as my Flex gear (5000, 6700, PGXL).  I have in fact sent the K3 to Elecraft for upgrades, the 6700 to Flex for warranty work, the PGXL to Flex for warranty work, and when I had a Alpha 9500 it was shipped to RF Concepts for repair (lightning damage).  

No need to have ‘professional packing’ when you had ‘right packing material’ shipped to you in the first place and you’ve already paid for it {e.g. "The packing material for the KPA1500 cost $5,995.00 and they threw in the amplifier for free"….  ;-)   }

FWIW,


Barry, WD4ASW/1




Had a couple issues with my KPA1500 way back, and found it more economical to tear out the board in need of repair and send it back; rather than send back the whole amp and insure the shipping.  Since the board probably weighed less than a pound, I packed it myself; but I would not do that if I had to send back the amp.

If Elecraft doesn't need the whole amp to fix your problem, you might remove the board that is the problem, and send that back.  It will save you a buck or two.

Dick, K8ZTT

Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man.
What is first, you ask? Landing, of course.
"A good aviator will always have his take-offs plus landings divisible by 2!"


Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

KE1F Lou
 

Thank you for your advice,  I will do it.

73, Lou KE1F 



Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A

-------- Original message --------
From: SGS 126 <brloper@...>
Date: 10/7/20 5:29 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

I would have Fedex foam pack it, it’s not as expensive as you might think