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Re: Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

Mel Marcus
 

so the smart person would download it and have it properly printed , therefore paying about 1/3 of that ridiculous price.

Mel

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book
From: "redarlington" <rdarlington@...>
Date: Thu, May 28, 2020 11:22 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

I don't mean to sound like I'm knocking you or anybody else.  That was far from my intent so I apologize.  To the others that responded, yeah, it was sixty bucks.   It's not a bad book, but it's very basic.  I also did buy one of those spiral bound "Nifty" guides with the laminated paper.  I guess I outgrew it quickly because I haven't seen it since I bought it.   Gotta dig it up so I can keep it with the go kit.

That said, I do find myself referring to the manual (online, pdf version) from time to time because I need to know a specific detail on a menu setting or how an input works.   That "line in" really threw me off when I plugged in a DR-7800 pactor modem.  The rig refuses to take input from the sound card!  Why?   I solved the problem by moving the connector over to the unused microphone input on the back and carried on with life instead of hacking up the input board.  

Purchase Details
Description: E740243_K3S/P3 Book from Fred Cady
Unit price: $45.00 USD
Qty: 1
Amount: $45.00 USD
Subtotal: $45.00 USD
Shipping and handling: $18.03 USD
Total: $63.03 USD
Payment: $63.03 USD

Anyway, 73 all!

-Bob N3XKB


On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:35 AM Christopher Scibelli via groups.io <nu1oscar=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Since you quoted me I'll respond.  I got the $60 from somebody who participated in this topic.  I assumed he knew what the price of the book was/is since he seemed to be an owner..  I've never bought a K3 manual.  I found the manual provided by Elecraft to be sufficient and the K3 wasn't my first radio so I found much to be intuitive. 

If $25 is the actual cost I still wouldn't buy it but not for cost reasons.  I simply didn't need a supplement to the user manual. A good book can be priceless.  My copy of the "Intelligent Investor" would be one of those books.

73,

Chris  NU1O
-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.
I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,
______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389
On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:
$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O



-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:
I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred


Re: Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

redarlington
 

I hope we're not talking about me.   I was very clear about it costing $60 shipped.  That means including shipping.  It required spending $60 (well, $63) to get it from Elecraft to my door.  The book was not available directly from Fred due to whatever voodoo he worked out with the mother ship.  

And to be specific since you guys seem to like to nitpick, I don't equate a file on a computer with a book.  They may contain the same information but one isn't a book.   Remember those things?  They're made out of paper and similar materials.   Sometimes stone, but generally those are referred to as tablets.

Anyway, this has degenerated into a solid no signal all noise thread.   

73!

-Bob

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 11:49 AM Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

The man bought the printed book.  The man bought the printed book from a seller who had purchased the book from the publisher or other upline distribution network.  The seller understandably marked the item up in order to make a profit.
The man added shipping into the selling price of the book to intentionally inflate the apparent price.

The man CHOSE to purchase the book for $45 plus shipping.  No ONE held a gun to his head.

The book was available elsewhere in different formats at a significant savings.
The man apparently was expressing buyers remorse and implying that $60 was THE price....  It was not THE price.  It was THE price INCLUDING shipping, from a particular seller, for a particular format.

Implying that it was THE price was disinformation.

I am now done with this topic...

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 05/28/20 12:21, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:
I wasn't offended but you quoted me so I replied.  What is disinformation?  The $60 price tag looks to be accurate.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 1:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I wasn't dinging you specifically, Chris.  My apologies if you took it that way.  I simply saw your post/response and decided to step in and correct that bit of disinformation being passed around.

Have a nice day!  (And BTW, I find the Elecraft documentation to be well-suited for its purpose as well. I was a "new" operator and 1st time Elecraft Customer "back then", so I chose to educated myself from multiple approaches.  That said, there IS information in the Cady Books that is not in the Elecraft manuals, or not covered in detail sufficiently.  As I said, to this day, I still find new to me/useful information in Fred's pubs every time I read them.)

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 05/28/20 10:35, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:
Since you quoted me I'll respond.  I got the $60 from somebody who participated in this topic.  I assumed he knew what the price of the book was/is since he seemed to be an owner..  I've never bought a K3 manual.  I found the manual provided by Elecraft to be sufficient and the K3 wasn't my first radio so I found much to be intuitive. 

If $25 is the actual cost I still wouldn't buy it but not for cost reasons.  I simply didn't need a supplement to the user manual. A good book can be priceless.  My copy of the "Intelligent Investor" would be one of those books.

73,

Chris  NU1O
-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:
$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O



-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:
I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred


Re: Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

Clay Autery
 

The man bought the printed book.  The man bought the printed book from a seller who had purchased the book from the publisher or other upline distribution network.  The seller understandably marked the item up in order to make a profit.
The man added shipping into the selling price of the book to intentionally inflate the apparent price.

The man CHOSE to purchase the book for $45 plus shipping.  No ONE held a gun to his head.

The book was available elsewhere in different formats at a significant savings.
The man apparently was expressing buyers remorse and implying that $60 was THE price....  It was not THE price.  It was THE price INCLUDING shipping, from a particular seller, for a particular format.

Implying that it was THE price was disinformation.

I am now done with this topic...

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 05/28/20 12:21, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:

I wasn't offended but you quoted me so I replied.  What is disinformation?  The $60 price tag looks to be accurate.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 1:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I wasn't dinging you specifically, Chris.  My apologies if you took it that way.  I simply saw your post/response and decided to step in and correct that bit of disinformation being passed around.

Have a nice day!  (And BTW, I find the Elecraft documentation to be well-suited for its purpose as well. I was a "new" operator and 1st time Elecraft Customer "back then", so I chose to educated myself from multiple approaches.  That said, there IS information in the Cady Books that is not in the Elecraft manuals, or not covered in detail sufficiently.  As I said, to this day, I still find new to me/useful information in Fred's pubs every time I read them.)

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 05/28/20 10:35, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:
Since you quoted me I'll respond.  I got the $60 from somebody who participated in this topic.  I assumed he knew what the price of the book was/is since he seemed to be an owner..  I've never bought a K3 manual.  I found the manual provided by Elecraft to be sufficient and the K3 wasn't my first radio so I found much to be intuitive. 

If $25 is the actual cost I still wouldn't buy it but not for cost reasons.  I simply didn't need a supplement to the user manual. A good book can be priceless.  My copy of the "Intelligent Investor" would be one of those books.

73,

Chris  NU1O
-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:
$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O



-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:
I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred


Re: Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

Christopher Scibelli
 

I wasn't offended but you quoted me so I replied.  What is disinformation?  The $60 price tag looks to be accurate.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 1:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I wasn't dinging you specifically, Chris.  My apologies if you took it that way.  I simply saw your post/response and decided to step in and correct that bit of disinformation being passed around.

Have a nice day!  (And BTW, I find the Elecraft documentation to be well-suited for its purpose as well. I was a "new" operator and 1st time Elecraft Customer "back then", so I chose to educated myself from multiple approaches.  That said, there IS information in the Cady Books that is not in the Elecraft manuals, or not covered in detail sufficiently.  As I said, to this day, I still find new to me/useful information in Fred's pubs every time I read them.)

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 05/28/20 10:35, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:
Since you quoted me I'll respond.  I got the $60 from somebody who participated in this topic.  I assumed he knew what the price of the book was/is since he seemed to be an owner..  I've never bought a K3 manual.  I found the manual provided by Elecraft to be sufficient and the K3 wasn't my first radio so I found much to be intuitive. 

If $25 is the actual cost I still wouldn't buy it but not for cost reasons.  I simply didn't need a supplement to the user manual. A good book can be priceless.  My copy of the "Intelligent Investor" would be one of those books.

73,

Chris  NU1O
-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:
$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O



-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:
I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred


Re: Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

Clay Autery
 

I wasn't dinging you specifically, Chris.  My apologies if you took it that way.  I simply saw your post/response and decided to step in and correct that bit of disinformation being passed around.

Have a nice day!  (And BTW, I find the Elecraft documentation to be well-suited for its purpose as well. I was a "new" operator and 1st time Elecraft Customer "back then", so I chose to educated myself from multiple approaches.  That said, there IS information in the Cady Books that is not in the Elecraft manuals, or not covered in detail sufficiently.  As I said, to this day, I still find new to me/useful information in Fred's pubs every time I read them.)

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 05/28/20 10:35, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:

Since you quoted me I'll respond.  I got the $60 from somebody who participated in this topic.  I assumed he knew what the price of the book was/is since he seemed to be an owner..  I've never bought a K3 manual.  I found the manual provided by Elecraft to be sufficient and the K3 wasn't my first radio so I found much to be intuitive. 

If $25 is the actual cost I still wouldn't buy it but not for cost reasons.  I simply didn't need a supplement to the user manual. A good book can be priceless.  My copy of the "Intelligent Investor" would be one of those books.

73,

Chris  NU1O
-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:
$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O



-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:
I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred


Re: Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

Mel Marcus
 

good advice, I might mention, print in color. most helpful when you get to the p3 section.

Mel
NE9A

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book
From: "Clay Autery" <KY5G@...>
Date: Thu, May 28, 2020 9:56 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.
I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,
______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389
On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:
$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O



-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:
I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred


Re: Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

redarlington
 

I don't mean to sound like I'm knocking you or anybody else.  That was far from my intent so I apologize.  To the others that responded, yeah, it was sixty bucks.   It's not a bad book, but it's very basic.  I also did buy one of those spiral bound "Nifty" guides with the laminated paper.  I guess I outgrew it quickly because I haven't seen it since I bought it.   Gotta dig it up so I can keep it with the go kit.

That said, I do find myself referring to the manual (online, pdf version) from time to time because I need to know a specific detail on a menu setting or how an input works.   That "line in" really threw me off when I plugged in a DR-7800 pactor modem.  The rig refuses to take input from the sound card!  Why?   I solved the problem by moving the connector over to the unused microphone input on the back and carried on with life instead of hacking up the input board.  

Purchase Details
Description: E740243_K3S/P3 Book from Fred Cady
Unit price: $45.00 USD
Qty: 1
Amount: $45.00 USD
Subtotal: $45.00 USD
Shipping and handling: $18.03 USD
Total: $63.03 USD
Payment: $63.03 USD

Anyway, 73 all!

-Bob N3XKB


On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:35 AM Christopher Scibelli via groups.io <nu1oscar=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Since you quoted me I'll respond.  I got the $60 from somebody who participated in this topic.  I assumed he knew what the price of the book was/is since he seemed to be an owner..  I've never bought a K3 manual.  I found the manual provided by Elecraft to be sufficient and the K3 wasn't my first radio so I found much to be intuitive. 

If $25 is the actual cost I still wouldn't buy it but not for cost reasons.  I simply didn't need a supplement to the user manual. A good book can be priceless.  My copy of the "Intelligent Investor" would be one of those books.

73,

Chris  NU1O
-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:
$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O



-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:
I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred


Re: K3s no power on TX

Richard Williams
 

I would venture to say that no power out (especially in the 1 - 12 watt range indicated the failure of both MOSFETs (about half power indicates failure of one of them).   I have had that happen twice now; and it is not a difficult task to replace the two RD15HVF1s.

I purchased mine from RF Parts; they are $4.95 each, and shipping is $12.15;  SO, I purchased six of them (now have 4 spares).

Easy to remove the KLPA3A  board.  Remove the top cover, and bottom read cover. Then remove the fan(s) and the KPA3A 100W Amp board (three screws - two in back and one on the right side when looking from the back).  This gives you access to the KLPA3A board.  You can now pop out the KLPA3A board, and replace the two MOSFETs.

Once done put the board back in secure the bottom cover; leave the KPA3A amplifier out (you need access to the 2 pots on the KLPA board to set the bias).

Fire up the K3S with an amp meter in the power line; if you do not have one, you can use the meter in the K3S.  To do that, tap the DISP button, then use the VFO B know to change the display to Amps.  Set the radio to SSB mode, power knob all the way down, and press the tune button (puts the radio in transmit mode).

With the two pots on the KLPA3A board full CCW, adjust either one for a 200 MA increase in current. Then adjust the other pot for another 200 MA increase.  You are now done, power down the radio, re-install the power amp, fan board on back of the power amp, and then the top cover.

When I adjusted the pots, I had a meter in series with the power lead from the power supply, and watched the meter on the front of the K3S.  The readings were surprisingly close, so either is more than satisfactory to use.

One other note, when you remove the back bottom cover, make sure there are grey (mine are) thermal pads on the RD15HVF1s; you need to transfer those over to the new ones.

Dick, K8ZTT



Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man.
What is first, you ask? Landing, of course.







On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 07:52:27 AM MDT, Ray Maxfield <wa6vab@...> wrote:


Hi Brian

I did the Finger Heat Test on My K3 when it died.

Reach under the radio where the 3 Power fets are mounted

And Feel the Screws that Mount the Fets.

Key the Transmitter ( maybe AM Mode) you should feel the Screw get Warm

If no Heat, most likely Bad.

You can get The Fets from Elecraft ,ebay   internet.

Ray   WA6VAB   K3.   Rocklin CA.

 

From: Brian
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 4:15 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3s no power on TX

 

Hi Bob

 

I have the Sub Receiver removed. The interface card has been removed and replaced a few times in my testing.

 

I have reseated all the connections within the radio.

 

Although I first noticed the problem after it was moved from CA to NY, after some serios checks I no longer believe the problem occurred in transport.

 

I am 90 % sure the RD15HVF1s have failed. As this is now  a spare K3S I have time to play fixing it, I am in no hurry to start unsoldering parts in my diagnostics.

 

I have a few ways to go, get some conformation from Elecraft that my diagnostics is reasonable correct, run simulations  of the circuit, compare to my working K3S or just change the parts, I am trying the first for a start.

 

This radio was assembled by a kid who built a K2/100 at age 6 and assembled both my K3S, with little supervision, so I have not delved into these radio much in the past.

 

73 Brian KF6C.

 


Re: Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

Christopher Scibelli
 

Since you quoted me I'll respond.  I got the $60 from somebody who participated in this topic.  I assumed he knew what the price of the book was/is since he seemed to be an owner..  I've never bought a K3 manual.  I found the manual provided by Elecraft to be sufficient and the K3 wasn't my first radio so I found much to be intuitive. 

If $25 is the actual cost I still wouldn't buy it but not for cost reasons.  I simply didn't need a supplement to the user manual. A good book can be priceless.  My copy of the "Intelligent Investor" would be one of those books.

73,

Chris  NU1O

-----Original Message-----
From: Clay Autery <KY5G@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:
$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O



-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:
I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred


Re: Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

Rick NK7I
 

If you choose to print it (harder to search for trivia but old school still rocks); use at least 22 bond paper (takes a beating better than the typical office paper) and put it into a folder, WITH your notes, settings AND the firmware(s) update comments.

Then it's all in one place (as well as your computer), so you can misplace it more conveniently.

73,
Rick NK7I

On 5/28/2020 7:56 AM, Clay Autery wrote:

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:
$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O



-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:
I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred


Re: Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

Bob Seaquist
 

Elecraft's manuals are very helpful and I really appreciate them; contrasted with manuals from other radio manufacturers they are excellent.

Fred Cady's books give a different angle to what Elecraft offers and have been a great help for me. Someone mentioned size and durability which add to their value.

Nowhere did I see a $60 price.

The Cady books are in line with Elecraft's high values.

--
Bob Seaquist
W9LSE


Re: Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

Clay Autery
 

I don't know where y'all are getting this $60.00 figure from.  I have never paid that much for ANY Cady publication.

I have purchased multiple versions of the K3s/P3 publication, et al.  After he passed, I went and found the latest/last versions of all applicable publications and purchased them...

The latest version of the K3s/P3 eBook is available right now for $25.00.

Printing and binding costs money.  If you want someone to print and bind the book for you, then pay for it.
Alternatively, download the eBook and print it yourself using Acrobat DC....  Use good paper and you can print it 2-sided with borders sufficient for 3-hole punching on the left of each page, reducing your paper needs by half.
A loose leaf version in a binder with all the Elecraft docs is more useful/easier to use anyway.  OR you can learn to bind it yourself...

Otherwise, how about you squeak when you walk cheapsters quit whining.

I STILL find useful information in Fred's books EVERY time I re-read them.  NO ONE is forcing you to buy the Cady book.

Sincerely,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 05/28/20 04:01, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io wrote:

$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O



-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:
I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred

_._,_._,_


Re: K3s no power on TX

Ray Maxfield
 

Hi Brian

I did the Finger Heat Test on My K3 when it died.

Reach under the radio where the 3 Power fets are mounted

And Feel the Screws that Mount the Fets.

Key the Transmitter ( maybe AM Mode) you should feel the Screw get Warm

If no Heat, most likely Bad.

You can get The Fets from Elecraft ,ebay   internet.

Ray   WA6VAB   K3.   Rocklin CA.

 

From: Brian
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 4:15 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3s no power on TX

 

Hi Bob

 

I have the Sub Receiver removed. The interface card has been removed and replaced a few times in my testing.

 

I have reseated all the connections within the radio.

 

Although I first noticed the problem after it was moved from CA to NY, after some serios checks I no longer believe the problem occurred in transport.

 

I am 90 % sure the RD15HVF1s have failed. As this is now  a spare K3S I have time to play fixing it, I am in no hurry to start unsoldering parts in my diagnostics.

 

I have a few ways to go, get some conformation from Elecraft that my diagnostics is reasonable correct, run simulations  of the circuit, compare to my working K3S or just change the parts, I am trying the first for a start.

 

This radio was assembled by a kid who built a K2/100 at age 6 and assembled both my K3S, with little supervision, so I have not delved into these radio much in the past.

 

73 Brian KF6C.

 


Re: Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

John Canfield
 

You must be a lot smarter than I am, I learned more about using my K3S from the Cady book than I did from months of ownership and manual reading.

John WB5THT
K3S, P3, SP3, KPA1500


Re: Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

Charlie T, k3ICH
 

Granted, there’s nothing “new” in the Caddy book, but the advantage is that it’s like the “cliff-notes” of the operating manual.

The small size, coated paper and bindings allow it to take a lot more abuse in the field than the full sized Elecraft manual.

However, for way under 60 bucks, I think I can make my own mini-manual if I need it.

 

73, Charlie k3ICH

 

 

 

 

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Christopher Scibelli via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 5:02 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

 

$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O



 


Re: K3s no power on TX

Brian KF6C
 

Hi Bob

 

I have the Sub Receiver removed. The interface card has been removed and replaced a few times in my testing.

 

I have reseated all the connections within the radio.

 

Although I first noticed the problem after it was moved from CA to NY, after some serios checks I no longer believe the problem occurred in transport.

 

I am 90 % sure the RD15HVF1s have failed. As this is now  a spare K3S I have time to play fixing it, I am in no hurry to start unsoldering parts in my diagnostics.

 

I have a few ways to go, get some conformation from Elecraft that my diagnostics is reasonable correct, run simulations  of the circuit, compare to my working K3S or just change the parts, I am trying the first for a start.

 

This radio was assembled by a kid who built a K2/100 at age 6 and assembled both my K3S, with little supervision, so I have not delved into these radio much in the past.

 

73 Brian KF6C.


Re: Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

Christopher Scibelli
 

$60 for a book on how to operate a K3?  That is a very expensive user guide, and I think you are right:  A K3 owner should be able to learn all it's features from the operating manual and about a month of on-air time.

73,

Chris  NU1O



-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:
I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred





Re: Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

redarlington
 

This might be heresy, but I didn't find anything in the book worth paying for.  Just about any of us should have the rigs mastered in the first month and should be able to write the book.  I feel very let down for the low low price of $60 shipped, give or take.

-Bob

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:51 PM Earl <n5zm@...> wrote:
I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred





Re: Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

Mel Marcus
 

you can download it and print

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book
From: "Earl" <n5zm@...>
Date: Wed, May 27, 2020 9:29 pm
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess
to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred





Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book

Earl
 

I am in the market for the Cady K3s/P3 hard copy book if anyone has one excess to their needs.

I have a Cady K3 hard copy book that is excess to my needs.

Earl N5ZM..

PS. Sure do miss Fred