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Re: K3S and SteppIR SDA100 controller

Bob Wilson, N6TV
 

You can set CONFIG:RS232 to USB and still use the SDA100.  Just have to set baud rate to 38400 in the SDA100 and connect to K3 via proper RS232 splitter or S-BOX, with no TXD Lines (pin 3) wired in pareallel to the SDA100.  Works with P3 and CBL3PY and standard S-BOX and standard serial cable, or SteppIR cable, no problem.

When CONFIG:RS232 is set to USB, the baud rate of the RJ45/RS232 pigtail (Elecraft P/N E980297) or CBLP3Y female connector is fixed at 38400 baud.


On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 7:51 AM Jim Denneny <57JNDenneny@...> wrote:
Thanks Jim & Mike.  Transceiver interface is working again.

Config>RS232 was set to "USB" meaning application determines data rate.  SDA100 was set for autotrack at 9600 bd.  I changed K3s RS232 setting from USB to 9600 and SDA100 is again tracking K3s.  My KPA1500 Remote data transfer software (local connect) data rate is set to 230400bd and it works with k3s 9600 bd rate. Weird.

Meanwhile back to my SteppIR DB18E cable issue.  I definitely have two driver chip failures plus cable reflector wires are "hosed".  Hope to locate and splice with DB 25 M/F breakout connectors. I think it was a rodent.

Jim K7EG


Re: TX suddenly stopped working using WSJT-X

Jim Brown
 

On 5/5/2021 2:23 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
I have NEVER experienced issues after an update
You are an exception.

73, Jim K9YC


Re: TX suddenly stopped working using WSJT-X

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

To those who responded to this fellows issue and concern, no doubt it is real.  There are several things which can cause this.   However..........

For those who believe it is a Windows update issue...........I don't know how you handle your updates, but I have NEVER experienced issues after an update.  

For those who run other applications, some of which launch and run WSJT............I run WSJT-X latest release as a stand-a-lone application with ZERO issues in this regard.

For those who have occasional need to re-load WSJT because it suddenly stopped while operating...............I have found this most likely the issue of RF getting into the cables and into the computer.   Restarting WSJT restores the operation for a while.  This is usually noted on initiation of transmit.  May happen only on certain bands or antennas.

I guess what I'm saying here is the fact I have no problems with Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, automatic updates applied, and a paid virus application running in the background.   I have no issues with the communications between the computer and the radio.    I run 160M - 6M up to 500 watts even with a balanced feed line/open wire or coax fed antennas.  Again ZERO issues.

So what gives with folks?    If I can make it work reliably using my old HP Elitebook 6930P, then I have to believe it isn't the fault of the computer, nor the fault of Windows 10, nor the fault of WSJT, nor the fault of my Elecraft K3S station.    The software and hardware is solid and is reliable.  That to me says one needs to look at their computer software maintenance procedure and scheduling, or their methods of using multiple applications being system integration. 

Otherwise......guess I'm just dumb lucky.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 5/5/2021 12:59 PM, Richard Lawn wrote:
I apologize as I know this has been covered before. The frustration here is that it was working fine the other day, and suddenly last night WSJT-X would no longer transmit. There seems to be no audio getting into the K3. I see and hear nothing from the K3 other than the red TX light. I've gone through the settings countless times and cannot find my error. I am confused by the fact that when I try to adjust the mic gain I end up selecting Line 0-60 which I don't think should be the case. By the way I am using the USB interface on the K3 for moving audio to and from the computer rather than an external soundcard. I'd appreciate it if someone showed me the error of my ways as I don't recall ever seeing this problem before. 

73
Rick, W2JAZ


Re: TX suddenly stopped working using WSJT-X

Robert W5AJ
 

Interesting

Lately same issue.  Restart WSJT and fixed, however it was happening regularly.....

several sound devices here and disabled all but the external USB device being used by WSJT.
The problem has not occurred in this state, that of only the sound device used by WSJT is enabled.

Machine runs win10, my guess is WJST has bug or win10 or both....

73 W5aJ


On Wed, May 5, 2021, 12:03 PM Richard Lawn <rjlawn@...> wrote:
I apologize as I know this has been covered before. The frustration here is that it was working fine the other day, and suddenly last night WSJT-X would no longer transmit. There seems to be no audio getting into the K3. I see and hear nothing from the K3 other than the red TX light. I've gone through the settings countless times and cannot find my error. I am confused by the fact that when I try to adjust the mic gain I end up selecting Line 0-60 which I don't think should be the case. By the way I am using the USB interface on the K3 for moving audio to and from the computer rather than an external soundcard. I'd appreciate it if someone showed me the error of my ways as I don't recall ever seeing this problem before. 

73
Rick, W2JAZ


Re: TX suddenly stopped working using WSJT-X

Richard Lawn
 

Never mind, found my mistake....it was in the VFO split setting.
Duh!

Rick. W2JAZ


Re: TX suddenly stopped working using WSJT-X

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

Make sure the radio is in Data A mode.  Line Gain should be about 30 or so.  In F2 WSJT Setup menu, Audio tab, you should have the CODEX sound card selected.    The WSJT PWR slide should be near the top and the Windows SPKR lever about 30 to 50.  
You will need to adjust the levels so there is 4 bars illuminated on the ALC scale with the 5th bar flickering. 
Set the PWR control on the radio for the operating power you choose. 

Bob, K4TAX


On May 5, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Jeffrey griffin <kb2mjeff@...> wrote:



My audio drops out on occasion also. I find a WSJT s/w reboot fixes it every time….

 

73 Jeff kb2m

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Lawn
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 2:00 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] TX suddenly stopped working using WSJT-X

 

I apologize as I know this has been covered before. The frustration here is that it was working fine the other day, and suddenly last night WSJT-X would no longer transmit. There seems to be no audio getting into the K3. I see and hear nothing from the K3 other than the red TX light. I've gone through the settings countless times and cannot find my error. I am confused by the fact that when I try to adjust the mic gain I end up selecting Line 0-60 which I don't think should be the case. By the way I am using the USB interface on the K3 for moving audio to and from the computer rather than an external soundcard. I'd appreciate it if someone showed me the error of my ways as I don't recall ever seeing this problem before. 

73
Rick, W2JAZ


Re: TX suddenly stopped working using WSJT-X

Mike Flowers
 

This is often a result of a Windows update or other event that disturbs the configuration of your audio devices.  

Check the properties of the soundcard you’re using for WSJT-X. 

-- 73 de Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - "It's about DX!"

On May 5, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Richard Lawn <rjlawn@...> wrote:

I apologize as I know this has been covered before. The frustration here is that it was working fine the other day, and suddenly last night WSJT-X would no longer transmit. There seems to be no audio getting into the K3. I see and hear nothing from the K3 other than the red TX light. I've gone through the settings countless times and cannot find my error. I am confused by the fact that when I try to adjust the mic gain I end up selecting Line 0-60 which I don't think should be the case. By the way I am using the USB interface on the K3 for moving audio to and from the computer rather than an external soundcard. I'd appreciate it if someone showed me the error of my ways as I don't recall ever seeing this problem before. 

73
Rick, W2JAZ


Re: TX suddenly stopped working using WSJT-X

Jeffrey griffin
 

My audio drops out on occasion also. I find a WSJT s/w reboot fixes it every time….

 

73 Jeff kb2m

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Lawn
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 2:00 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] TX suddenly stopped working using WSJT-X

 

I apologize as I know this has been covered before. The frustration here is that it was working fine the other day, and suddenly last night WSJT-X would no longer transmit. There seems to be no audio getting into the K3. I see and hear nothing from the K3 other than the red TX light. I've gone through the settings countless times and cannot find my error. I am confused by the fact that when I try to adjust the mic gain I end up selecting Line 0-60 which I don't think should be the case. By the way I am using the USB interface on the K3 for moving audio to and from the computer rather than an external soundcard. I'd appreciate it if someone showed me the error of my ways as I don't recall ever seeing this problem before. 

73
Rick, W2JAZ


TX suddenly stopped working using WSJT-X

Richard Lawn
 

I apologize as I know this has been covered before. The frustration here is that it was working fine the other day, and suddenly last night WSJT-X would no longer transmit. There seems to be no audio getting into the K3. I see and hear nothing from the K3 other than the red TX light. I've gone through the settings countless times and cannot find my error. I am confused by the fact that when I try to adjust the mic gain I end up selecting Line 0-60 which I don't think should be the case. By the way I am using the USB interface on the K3 for moving audio to and from the computer rather than an external soundcard. I'd appreciate it if someone showed me the error of my ways as I don't recall ever seeing this problem before. 

73
Rick, W2JAZ


Re: K3S and SteppIR SDA100 controller

Jim Denneny
 

Thanks Jim & Mike.  Transceiver interface is working again.

Config>RS232 was set to "USB" meaning application determines data rate.  SDA100 was set for autotrack at 9600 bd.  I changed K3s RS232 setting from USB to 9600 and SDA100 is again tracking K3s.  My KPA1500 Remote data transfer software (local connect) data rate is set to 230400bd and it works with k3s 9600 bd rate. Weird.

Meanwhile back to my SteppIR DB18E cable issue.  I definitely have two driver chip failures plus cable reflector wires are "hosed".  Hope to locate and splice with DB 25 M/F breakout connectors. I think it was a rodent.

Jim K7EG


Re: K3S and SteppIR SDA100 controller

Mike Flowers
 

The SDA100 is, IMHO, a rather fragile device.   The designers could have done a lot more to protect the device from foreseeable electrical events. 

But, get the product out the door ...

-- 73 de Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - "It's about DX!"

On May 4, 2021, at 6:32 PM, Jim Denneny <57JNDenneny@...> wrote:

Ouch! Thanks Mike.  Hard to imagine control cable failure causing transceiver board failure..


Re: K3S and SteppIR SDA100 controller

Jim Denneny
 

Ouch! Thanks Mike.  Hard to imagine control cable failure causing transceiver board failure..


Re: K3S and SteppIR SDA100 controller

Jim Brown
 

On 5/4/2021 3:59 PM, Jim Denneny wrote:
Recently suffered DB25 cable damage due to a rodent.  Trying to splice repair cable.  Damage also killed two driver chips in SDA100 controller.
Had the same thing happen to me, where we had a new deck built over it. It took new driver chips the replacement of a length of cable. I added a section of PVC conduit where it goes under that deck.

73, Jim K9YC


Re: K3S and SteppIR SDA100 controller

Mike Flowers
 

Unless there was also damage to the transceiver interface board. 

-- 73 de Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - "It's about DX!"

On May 4, 2021, at 4:00 PM, Jim Denneny <57JNDenneny@...> wrote:

I also posted this on SteppIR Groups.

Recently suffered DB25 cable damage due to a rodent.  Trying to splice repair cable.  Damage also killed two driver chips in SDA100 controller.

Somehow the SDA100 Autotrack function suddenly stopped working two days ago with my Elecraft K3s radio.  Autotrack is enabled at 9600-9600 baud and radio interface for Elecraft is KENWOOD to the best of my recollection.  It's pretty straight forward.  What am I missing?  I cannot see any connection between failed drivers and autotrack??

Jim K7EG


K3S and SteppIR SDA100 controller

Jim Denneny
 

I also posted this on SteppIR Groups.

Recently suffered DB25 cable damage due to a rodent.  Trying to splice repair cable.  Damage also killed two driver chips in SDA100 controller.

Somehow the SDA100 Autotrack function suddenly stopped working two days ago with my Elecraft K3s radio.  Autotrack is enabled at 9600-9600 baud and radio interface for Elecraft is KENWOOD to the best of my recollection.  It's pretty straight forward.  What am I missing?  I cannot see any connection between failed drivers and autotrack??

Jim K7EG


Re: KX3 Remote control using RemoteRig

Michael Foerster
 

I remember when the KX3 first came out, Elecraft talked about the capability of the KX3 controlling the K3 but after it was released, the story changed though, saying that the KX3 did not have fast enough software for control of the K3 and there were compatibility problems.  Might have been a dream that had complications...


You can connect the two together and get some controls (frequency, band change), but it is not compatible for remote control.  

I wish it was!

Mike


KX3 Remote control using RemoteRig

Ken WR7D
 

I haven't found much information on this subject. Most things I've found deal with using the KX3 to control a remote K3(S).

I would like to remotely control a KX3 and still have good CW performance using a straight key. The RemoteRig boxes seem to "solve" the CW problem. I would use software on the control side since there isn't a "control head" for the KX3. The manual does mention the ability for a KX3 to control another KX3, but that is listed as experimental. Not sure how much else has been done with it. A panadapter on the control side would be nice as well, but not a necessity.

I found a utility form Pignology that uses an image of the KX3 that would be great, but it's not being sold anymore. Win4K3Suite seems to be a good option, but the controls are not laid out like the actual KX3.

I know I'll need to build a cable to connect the KX3 to the remote side RemoteRig box. I guess I could use the KXSER cable, but would need a gender bender. I'm also wondering if the I/Q signal could be passed over one channel of the RemoteRig and then decoded at the control side for a panadapter.

Anyone done something like this or have any ideas?

Thanks
Ken
WR7D 


Re: What happened to the Elecraft support?

Peter Voelpel
 

It´s not a mistake, it is a must for the sender to fill in the customs declaration!

All import into EU countries with a combined value of item + shipping exceeding 26€ must be declared and are due for VAT.

Before you order something you can easily calculate the duties to be paid online:

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/calculation-customs-duties_en

73
Peter, DJ7WW

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Martin Kratoska, OK1RR


it was possible 5 years ago to put the E850607 kit into an envelope and
send to me BUT NOW it was impossible, the ware worth ~ $30 must be in a
box labelled with a "Customs Declaration" label? Who made the mistake -



-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [Elecraft-K3] What happened to the Elecraft support?
Datum: 2021-05-04T03:35:35+0200
Von: "Martin Kratoska, OK1RR" <martin@ok1rr.com>
An: "Elecraft-K3@groups.io" <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>

Dave,

it was possible 5 years ago to put the E850607 kit into an envelope and
send to me BUT NOW it was impossible, the ware worth ~ $30 must be in a
box labelled with a "Customs Declaration" label? Who made the mistake -



Re: What happened to the Elecraft support?

Bob Hammond G4DBW
 

Hi Martin,
You have my sympathy in obtaining small  spare parts for your Elecraft Radio. You will not get any sympathy on here from U.S. hams who mainly believe Elecraft can do no wrong, and have the luxury of local post and shipping ( at least in 48 states) 

My recent experience in obtaining a “gold pins mod kit “ for my K3 initially incurred outrageous postage costs for a packet of pins which weigh a few ounces , and probably cost Elecraft a dime a dozen.

They agreed to send the overpriced “mod kit” items to me via “USPS” which then attract 20% UK  sales tax and a customs handling fee. 

I have no issue with the UK tax and customs charges, but big issues with Elecraft pricing levels for mod kit parts which are to correct a latent design defect. 

Sadly, the after sales support from Elecraft to non U.S. hams is lacking, with a very limited overseas support network. Our UK dealer has no stock of spares, and just contacts  Elecraft for parts quotes ( just as I do)

 It certainly puts me off from ever investing GBP 4000 plus + shipping+ tax on  the mythical K4. ( last sighted in Europe in 2019 at the RSGB convention) 

I have enjoyed my Elecraft experience greatly from building my K2, then the K3 KPA500 KAT500 but now look to the well supported brands from local dealers here in the  UK for my next Radio. 

Nothing lasts forever.... time to take a different road. 

73

Bob G4DBW 


Re: What happened to the Elecraft support?

Dave (NK7Z)
 

Martin,

The USPS web site states that if an item is potentially not duty free, it needs a customs form, the item shipped has worth, and you paid money for it, so it is not duty free, and as such, yes, it appears to need the form... Your source may be in error...

See:

https://pe.usps.com/text/imm/immc1_009.htm#ep1000983
Section 123.61

The irony of this is you used the distribution system Elecraft set up for EU orders, and that system worked! You even used the very distributor Elecraft works with in EU.

The problem is you ordered from the US without checking what the ramifications of that order might be, while you had a local distributor who could, and did, provide you the exact Elecraft part you ordered from the US in less time for less money. Then you blamed Elecraft...

I think we have used enough bandwidth on this reflector at this point, so I will bow out of this discussion with you, and allow you the last word on this.

I suggest that if you order Elecraft parts in the future, you use the system of distributors Elecraft has set up to make it easy, and cheap, for you to order parts from your part of the world. See:

https://elecraft.com/pages/international-distribution-repair-centers

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net

On 5/3/21 6:35 PM, Martin Kratoska, OK1RR wrote:
Dave,
it was possible 5 years ago to put the E850607 kit into an envelope and send to me BUT NOW it was impossible, the ware worth ~ $30 must be in a box labelled with a "Customs Declaration" label? Who made the mistake - me? Nobody needed a "Customs Declaration" label - nor Czech Customs authority nor Czech Post! But ONCE LABELLED, IT MUST BE PROCESSED IN USUAL WAY as they told me. They ignored my complaints, the officer told me "next time tell them to NOT LABEL your parcel when it is a trifle, a bagatelle". Indeed, he was right!

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