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Re: KPA3 output erratic

Chuck Miller
 

"I've ordered the replacement relay from Elecraft, so I will see if that helps."

Today I replaced the bypass relay on my KAT3A, and the problem is solved!!!

However, being not to swift, I made the mistake of reconnecting the rs-232 cable while the computer was powered up,
and I thing it must have zapped to serial chio on th I/O board. Oh well, another part to change.

73, Chuck
N0NC


Re: Winlink

Bob Novas
 

Dave -

Make sure windows is allowing Winlink modem app to use the microphone.

Settings/System/Sound/"Related Settings" Microphone Privacy Settings:

Allow Apps to access your microphone: ON
Allow desktop apps to access your microphone: VARA HF MODEM, whatever else you use

Bob - W3DK

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From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Cole
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2020 1:32 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] Winlink

Hi,

Is anyone using Winlink, (latest), with Windows 10, (latest), and a K3?
All used to work, and all of a sudden PTT fails. All else works, the
radio is driven to the best frequency, etc... I have made no known
changes. There was a windows update... I would like to verify it still
works, and if so, to get some settings from you...

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Winlink

Dave (NK7Z)
 

Hi,

Is anyone using Winlink, (latest), with Windows 10, (latest), and a K3? All used to work, and all of a sudden PTT fails. All else works, the radio is driven to the best frequency, etc... I have made no known changes. There was a windows update... I would like to verify it still works, and if so, to get some settings from you...

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Re: K3S parts availability???

Alex OE3JTB
 

Hmh
I bought 6 years ago a gently used K3 and made an upgrade with sync board and some additional parts.
I am very satisfied with the TRX.
One of my purchase decision was, I believed Elecraft would store spare parts longer than the well known competitors. on the other hand I prefer simple displays, not theese SDR one.

Several years ago I owned a Kenwood 950 SDX , with was discontinued 6-7 years and when I asked my dealer, if spare parts would be available, he denied some essential parts.
So I sold it quickly , even there where no issues.

So I would asked the experienced here, are there essential issues in the last years as some other brands have had.
I know only some issues with the 4 knobs and broken caps.
I will keep mine as long as I can, today I see no alternative to a K3 according to size, weight and performance.
I believe Elecraft has a good reputation, and they dont gamble away :-)
73 Alex


Re: K3 K3S Parts

Dan Abell
 

All,
First I think it would help if Elecraft and the rest would adopt an open source approach to both hardware and software.   One option is to do this when they cease production of a particular model.  
 
Now I anticipate the older folks will respond about intellectual property or using an older phrase “proprietary information” as a reason not to embrace the open licensing approach.   The reality is that typically all stakeholders realize increased value with this approach.

The world has changed, manufactures such as Elecraft deliver far more value per dollar than those of the past.  Technology continues to advance at a rapid rate, no one should expect an
 extended sparing policy.   Your premium price does bring with it a superior product and support, especially support that other manufacturers do not.

So you can be rightly disappointed with Elecraft’s decision, even the language some use reflecting their frustration, but Elecraft is a small domestic company that I would like to see continue to thrive and they have to be smart about how they run their company.  It economics stupid!

Dan w3dka 

On Nov 7, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Dave Sharred via groups.io <g3nkc@...> wrote:


So in Automotive, when a model goes end of life, you have to make an All Time Buy, to fulfill a period afterwards. You would base this on how many units you sold, and factor in field replacement parts too. After the parts are exhausted, you will  be stuck with aftermarket parts, that are either like for like (not always possible) or refurbished units. Refurbish can mean scavenging rare parts from one unit to repair another.

For electronic components for either radios or cars,  simple devices are mainly available; industry standard parts. However,  the biggest issue may be custom chips(ASICs), or microprocessors, especially if they are single sourced, not generic parts. This even happens during the main production run, due to many differing unforseen circumstances.

The problem for radios is not just an Elecraft problem, you will struggle to get some parts even for your 10 year old YaesWoodCom from Japan. 

I am sure that the volumes of radios sold is much less than a mass produced car.

Sorry Ken

73 Dave G3NKC 


Sent from my Galaxy


-------- Original message --------
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
Date: 07/11/2020 15:04 (GMT+00:00)
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts

This isn't Germany.  These aren't cars.  Digikey carries every part in the radio with few exceptions.   

-Bob N3XKB

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020, 6:25 PM <gt0hof@...> wrote:

Elecraft should supply spare part for the K3/K3s for at least 10 years after production ends. If these transceivers were cars they WILL have spares for 10 years after the model has gone out of production. In Germany it is law to have spare for 10 years for cars. Are Elecraft just in it for the money? I hope not. As Bob has said these are NOT throw away items. I spent over £5000 4 years ago and if I can’t get spares to repair my K3s I’ll be pissed off to say the least. I would love to have a K4, but I’m retired and have limited funds now I’m not working and I don’t think I’m the only one.

 

Ken B G0HOF

 

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From: Gerard
Sent: 06 November 2020 23:26
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts

 

Bob, that has nothing to do with customer support.  A K3 and K3S should have full support for 10-20yrs.   They are not disposable radios. I'm if I had a Maserati, Ferrari I'd expect the best parts and service Is Elecraft a street company or top range. 😁

 

On Fri 6 Nov 2020, 15:47 Bob Hammond G4DBW via groups.io, <bobatbay=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Another thought on this one .... once the K4 starts rolling off the production line in significant numbers, I would predict we will see more K3 and K3S appear on the second hand market. Will owners separate out the extras from the basic K3 K3S and sell thiese as stand alone boards/ filters ? 

From what I see on ebay there is more money to be made selling these used boards/ filters as separates, which do not necessarlily add the same value to a complete radio.

73

Bob G4DBW

 


Re: K3 K3S Parts

Dave Sharred
 

So in Automotive, when a model goes end of life, you have to make an All Time Buy, to fulfill a period afterwards. You would base this on how many units you sold, and factor in field replacement parts too. After the parts are exhausted, you will  be stuck with aftermarket parts, that are either like for like (not always possible) or refurbished units. Refurbish can mean scavenging rare parts from one unit to repair another.

For electronic components for either radios or cars,  simple devices are mainly available; industry standard parts. However,  the biggest issue may be custom chips(ASICs), or microprocessors, especially if they are single sourced, not generic parts. This even happens during the main production run, due to many differing unforseen circumstances.

The problem for radios is not just an Elecraft problem, you will struggle to get some parts even for your 10 year old YaesWoodCom from Japan. 

I am sure that the volumes of radios sold is much less than a mass produced car.

Sorry Ken

73 Dave G3NKC 


Sent from my Galaxy


-------- Original message --------
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
Date: 07/11/2020 15:04 (GMT+00:00)
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts

This isn't Germany.  These aren't cars.  Digikey carries every part in the radio with few exceptions.   

-Bob N3XKB

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020, 6:25 PM <gt0hof@...> wrote:

Elecraft should supply spare part for the K3/K3s for at least 10 years after production ends. If these transceivers were cars they WILL have spares for 10 years after the model has gone out of production. In Germany it is law to have spare for 10 years for cars. Are Elecraft just in it for the money? I hope not. As Bob has said these are NOT throw away items. I spent over £5000 4 years ago and if I can’t get spares to repair my K3s I’ll be pissed off to say the least. I would love to have a K4, but I’m retired and have limited funds now I’m not working and I don’t think I’m the only one.

 

Ken B G0HOF

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gerard
Sent: 06 November 2020 23:26
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts

 

Bob, that has nothing to do with customer support.  A K3 and K3S should have full support for 10-20yrs.   They are not disposable radios. I'm if I had a Maserati, Ferrari I'd expect the best parts and service Is Elecraft a street company or top range. 😁

 

On Fri 6 Nov 2020, 15:47 Bob Hammond G4DBW via groups.io, <bobatbay=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Another thought on this one .... once the K4 starts rolling off the production line in significant numbers, I would predict we will see more K3 and K3S appear on the second hand market. Will owners separate out the extras from the basic K3 K3S and sell thiese as stand alone boards/ filters ? 

From what I see on ebay there is more money to be made selling these used boards/ filters as separates, which do not necessarlily add the same value to a complete radio.

73

Bob G4DBW

 


Re: K3 K3S Parts

redarlington <rdarlington@...>
 

This isn't Germany.  These aren't cars.  Digikey carries every part in the radio with few exceptions.   

-Bob N3XKB

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020, 6:25 PM <gt0hof@...> wrote:

Elecraft should supply spare part for the K3/K3s for at least 10 years after production ends. If these transceivers were cars they WILL have spares for 10 years after the model has gone out of production. In Germany it is law to have spare for 10 years for cars. Are Elecraft just in it for the money? I hope not. As Bob has said these are NOT throw away items. I spent over £5000 4 years ago and if I can’t get spares to repair my K3s I’ll be pissed off to say the least. I would love to have a K4, but I’m retired and have limited funds now I’m not working and I don’t think I’m the only one.

 

Ken B G0HOF

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gerard
Sent: 06 November 2020 23:26
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts

 

Bob, that has nothing to do with customer support.  A K3 and K3S should have full support for 10-20yrs.   They are not disposable radios. I'm if I had a Maserati, Ferrari I'd expect the best parts and service Is Elecraft a street company or top range. 😁

 

On Fri 6 Nov 2020, 15:47 Bob Hammond G4DBW via groups.io, <bobatbay=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Another thought on this one .... once the K4 starts rolling off the production line in significant numbers, I would predict we will see more K3 and K3S appear on the second hand market. Will owners separate out the extras from the basic K3 K3S and sell thiese as stand alone boards/ filters ? 

From what I see on ebay there is more money to be made selling these used boards/ filters as separates, which do not necessarlily add the same value to a complete radio.

73

Bob G4DBW

 


Re: K3S parts availability???

KE8G
 

Charlie,
I, also, believe it is a statement of our worldwide values decreasing on every front.

As a young lad of 70, I would never think of talking, writing or in another other form, using words like that; especially in a venue of mixed company.  When I was with my male friends, that was another story; especially during my time in the military.  As they say, " there's a place and time for everything."

I remember going back to college for some extra classes and in one class we discussed the use of the proverbial "four letter" words in today's society.  I was the non-traditional student in the class (old) and to a person, all the others, both male and female, believed that using language like that was perfectly fine.  It made no difference what the setting was, just say what you feel.  I truly felt sorry for them, for if they thought that way about their language, then what are their other values!  I watch how society is decaying and how people are treating (or mistreating, if you will) others and think it's perfectly fine.  I watch how younger folks have taken on a sense of entitlement and believe in their hearts they are owed everything and can do whatever they want, whenever they want.

I am very happy that my parents raised me differently; to respect people, to treat others well, and to be aware of the words I am using.

To add to your last line about a civilized man, I will take it one step further and add that once a person starts to not only use coarse language, but always begins to exponentially raise the volume of their voice, they have lost the debate and need to admit defeat.  Of course, others will say, at that point they need to come out swinging!!

Hope to see everyone in SS this weekend.

73 de Jim - KE8G



On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:28 PM Charlie T, k3ICH <pincon@...> wrote:

Unfortunately, some people use, on a daily basis, language that most of us would call at the very least,  “unacceptable”.

It becomes an unchecked habit in conversation, regardless of who gets offended,

A very warped view is that profanity etc. is synonymous with a “macho” personality when it is more simply a substitute for ability in efficient expression.

 

The truly civilized man with reasonable linguistic skills, can completely skewer an opponent (or product) without a single filthy word.

 

73, Charlie k3ICH

 

 

 

 

 


Re: K3S parts availability???

Svante Nordenstroem
 

Very well put, Charlie!


Re: K3S parts availability???

Charlie T, k3ICH
 

Unfortunately, some people use, on a daily basis, language that most of us would call at the very least,  “unacceptable”.

It becomes an unchecked habit in conversation, regardless of who gets offended,

A very warped view is that profanity etc. is synonymous with a “macho” personality when it is more simply a substitute for ability in efficient expression.

 

The truly civilized man with reasonable linguistic skills, can completely skewer an opponent (or product) without a single filthy word.

 

73, Charlie k3ICH

 

 

 

 

 


Re: K3S parts availability???

Dave (NK7Z)
 

The moderators email address is:

Elecraft-K3+owner@groups.io

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)

On 11/6/20 7:33 PM, ab2tc wrote:
Hi Bob and all,
I couldn't agree with you more. Entries to this topic has for the most part been utterly deplorable. Where is our moderator/owner?
AB2TC - Knut
On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 09:04 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
As to the posts on this topic and the responses, as an owner/moderator
of several sites on GROUPS.IO, I will tell you now, if I were
owner/moderator of this site.........you would ALL be banned.
Guys, your responses are not at all representative of the respectable
ham community.  Shame on you!
73
Bob, K4TAX
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Re: K3S parts availability???

ab2tc
 

Hi Bob and all,

I couldn't agree with you more. Entries to this topic has for the most part been utterly deplorable. Where is our moderator/owner?

AB2TC - Knut


On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 09:04 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
As to the posts on this topic and the responses, as an owner/moderator
of several sites on GROUPS.IO, I will tell you now, if I were
owner/moderator of this site.........you would ALL be banned.

Guys, your responses are not at all representative of the respectable
ham community.  Shame on you!

73

Bob, K4TAX


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Re: K3 K3S Parts

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

Most car parts today are "after market parts".   Rarely does a company have factory parts available after 3 to 5 years.  Factory tooling and retooling prevents this from taking place.   Maybe Maserati, Ferrari or Lamborghini can keep original parts but it is likely the reason they charge $250K to $500K for their vehicles. That's a bit different than my Chevrolet to which I paid $65K, and that was and inexpensive one.   Many original parts are not available but are after market parts.   Plus, I find factory parts are very expensive and understand the reason for that fact.

If a company buys a custom part and the supplier of that custom part closes its doors, which is often the case, where is one to turn?   I've seen companies discontinue parts while a product was still in the  design cycle.  Quantity demand drives the business.   We must realize in the scope of electronics, ham radio is a very small business, looking at the overall parts demand. Plus it is a hobby, unlike the cell phone  business or the medical equipment business.  It is an issue of perspective.   In other words  "mine is most important" regardless of the price.  So you spent $12K on your ham station.  That's lunch money compared to much of the equipment in a single cell site.  Sure I know you stretched the family budget for that radio.  I did too, digging into some of my retirement funds,  but I can afford it and I do enjoy my Elecraft K3S station and associated support equipment. Otherwise, I would have purchased a $1200  transceiver and resurrected an old Heath amplifier and be done with it.    Oh, there is no factory support or service for either of those items.

So with the USB card failure, most instances are the result of nearby lightning strikes causing a voltage step between the radio and the computer.  How does one assure, from the companies point of view, the unit will not fail under those conditions?   They can't control the installation site parameters.   That is up to the user.   From my experience and study, most ham stations have questionable lightning mitigation conditions.   In fact, nearby strikes are typically more detrimental to equipment than power line surges or operator errors.  Even if you disconnect antennas and ground them.  The issue is the station ground being at a difference potential than the AC Mains ground.  The path of least resistance is from the radio to the computer and the USB card in in that path.

Ya see....I built my first transmitter from parts salvaged from 3 or 4 old TV chassis.  And my S-38C receiver was purchased used.  I later built from scratch a Q Multiplier from a Heath schematic. That was fun to integrate into the AC-DC S-38 receiver.   At the time I was a sophomore in high school.   I've climbed the ropes. I learned to repair many different radios including those made today with surface mount parts and lots of data paths.

I don't expect every ham to understand the depth of circuits and electronics in today's ham radios.  I do expect one to understand their limits and the complexity of today's radios and be able to either find the problem, find the parts required and do the repair themselves.   OR.....expect a company to support it as long as profitable to them.  New models and technology comes along daily. It is a challenge to keep up with current trends and technology. Keeping support for a 10 year old product is a loosing proposition.   Due to the nature of the general customer, there is very little profit in ham radio products today.

As one other stated, much of today's electronics is use and throw away items.   I've suggested to more than one ham, that 10 to 20 year old radio is best used under the back wheel of the truck to keep the truck from rolling out of the driveway.   I know that hurts but please don't complain about manufactures support for something like that.

I know folks may not agree with what I've written.  I've spent 20+ years performing repair and support for ham radios. This includes the major 3 brands and a few lesser brands.   We have to face the music today, sorry to say, the lyrics aren't too appealing.

73

Bob, K4TAX


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Re: K3S parts availability???

Clay Autery
 

Thank you.

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On 11/06/20 11:04, Bill Mader wrote:
Yes, please go to the Yaesu lists and take your profanity with you.

For all, we don't need politics here.  Let's keep this list in accordance with the Radio Amateur's Code, something for ladies and gentlemen to follow.  Thanks!

73, Bill, K8TE


Re: K3S parts availability???

Dave (NK7Z)
 

Is it possible for you to watch your language?

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)

On 11/6/20 1:31 PM, Gerard wrote:
Ive.looked after a mother with Alzheimers 12 yrs a wife with cancer 3 yrs.  The only outlet I've had is Ham Radio.   They both died this last 15 months.   I spent good money on what I thought was the best.  I fell screwed.  That is my opinion and EXPLETIVE_REMOVED everyone else.


Re: K3 K3S Parts

Richard Smith
 

Can’t wait for K5 to come out.  Get me a nice K4.  :)  RAS

On Nov 6, 2020, at 7:24 PM, gt0hof@... wrote:

Elecraft should supply spare part for the K3/K3s for at least 10 years after production ends. If these transceivers were cars they WILL have spares for 10 years after the model has gone out of production. In Germany it is law to have spare for 10 years for cars. Are Elecraft just in it for the money? I hope not. As Bob has said these are NOT throw away items. I spent over £5000 4 years ago and if I can’t get spares to repair my K3s I’ll be pissed off to say the least. I would love to have a K4, but I’m retired and have limited funds now I’m not working and I don’t think I’m the only one.
 
Ken B G0HOF
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Gerard
Sent: 06 November 2020 23:26
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts
 
Bob, that has nothing to do with customer support.  A K3 and K3S should have full support for 10-20yrs.   They are not disposable radios. I'm if I had a Maserati, Ferrari I'd expect the best parts and service Is Elecraft a street company or top range. 😁
 
On Fri 6 Nov 2020, 15:47 Bob Hammond G4DBW via groups.io, <bobatbay=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Another thought on this one .... once the K4 starts rolling off the production line in significant numbers, I would predict we will see more K3 and K3S appear on the second hand market. Will owners separate out the extras from the basic K3 K3S and sell thiese as stand alone boards/ filters ? 

From what I see on ebay there is more money to be made selling these used boards/ filters as separates, which do not necessarlily add the same value to a complete radio. 

73 

Bob G4DBW 

 


Re: K3S parts availability???

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

As to the posts on this topic and the responses, as an owner/moderator of several sites on GROUPS.IO, I will tell you now, if I were owner/moderator of this site.........you would ALL be banned.

Guys, your responses are not at all representative of the respectable ham community.  Shame on you!

73

Bob, K4TAX


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Re: K3 K3S Parts

gt0hof@...
 

Elecraft should supply spare part for the K3/K3s for at least 10 years after production ends. If these transceivers were cars they WILL have spares for 10 years after the model has gone out of production. In Germany it is law to have spare for 10 years for cars. Are Elecraft just in it for the money? I hope not. As Bob has said these are NOT throw away items. I spent over £5000 4 years ago and if I can’t get spares to repair my K3s I’ll be pissed off to say the least. I would love to have a K4, but I’m retired and have limited funds now I’m not working and I don’t think I’m the only one.

 

Ken B G0HOF

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gerard
Sent: 06 November 2020 23:26
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 K3S Parts

 

Bob, that has nothing to do with customer support.  A K3 and K3S should have full support for 10-20yrs.   They are not disposable radios. I'm if I had a Maserati, Ferrari I'd expect the best parts and service Is Elecraft a street company or top range. 😁

 

On Fri 6 Nov 2020, 15:47 Bob Hammond G4DBW via groups.io, <bobatbay=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Another thought on this one .... once the K4 starts rolling off the production line in significant numbers, I would predict we will see more K3 and K3S appear on the second hand market. Will owners separate out the extras from the basic K3 K3S and sell thiese as stand alone boards/ filters ? 

From what I see on ebay there is more money to be made selling these used boards/ filters as separates, which do not necessarlily add the same value to a complete radio.

73

Bob G4DBW

 


Re: K3S parts availability???

KE1F Lou
 

Yeah, man, but it would put me back in business, :)

On 11/6/2020 6:16 PM, Charlie T, k3ICH wrote:

No, you don’t have “spare” parts.

You have a replacement obsolete parts inventory.

 

Chas

 

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of KE1F Lou
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 10:53 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S parts availability???

 

I had my K3 fully upgraded and Elecraft returned the original board with my K3. Now I have my "spare parts" inventory.

My question is to find out which other boards should I have in my K3 inventory to round out my spare stock? Your suggestion would be appreciated. Elecraft?

73, Lou KE1F

PS: Components used to be available for 10 or more years because these components were used by several manufacturers in new and old products such as 0.01uF capacitor. Today we are talking about sub-assemblies, contain hundreds of components and used by 1 manufacturer. 

On 11/6/2020 10:29 AM, Michael Mickelson wrote:

It is heartening to see that Elecraft is researching what parts might be in demand for the K3 and K3S.  I purchased my K3,P3, KPA500 and KAT500  about 10 years ago.  It goes without saying it is the best radio I have ever had, not that I have any experience with some of the high end radios made by the big three.  I know that there is anxiety over the ability to continue to repair and replace vital parts for these Elecraft radios.  But I wonder how long Yaesu, Kenwood, Icom, etc repair and provide spare parts for their legacy radios? It is not surprising that Elecraft has to decide to end support at some level.  I perhaps have one more radio upgrade in my future...maybe a K4. 

 

de Mike KD8DZ

 

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 9:30 AM Mark Morin <mark@...> wrote:

Fred, I agree with you that it’s disappointing from a company that enjoys such a stellar reputation for support to discontinue their flagship product without adequate parts in inventory to provide continued support for the product. 

I understand that building parts inventory for a discontinued product isn’t the most efficient way to run a business in the short term, but it’s the RIGHT way for long-term success and sustaining customer good will. 

I used to work for a large radio manufacturer whose policy it was to maintain a supply of spare parts fo a minimum of 10 years after the cancellation of a product. That usually meant a final production run for spare parts, which the accountants might have thought wasteful but more enlightened management saw as a vital long term investment.

this survey to see which parts have sufficient demand for a production run seems like a penny-punching approach. I had hoped for better when I chose Elecraft for my station equipment. 

Mark VA2MM 


 

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Re: K3 K3S Parts

Gerard <scanneg@...>
 

Bob, that has nothing to do with customer support.  A K3 and K3S should have full support for 10-20yrs.   They are not disposable radios. I'm if I had a Maserati, Ferrari I'd expect the best parts and service Is Elecraft a street company or top range. 😁


On Fri 6 Nov 2020, 15:47 Bob Hammond G4DBW via groups.io, <bobatbay=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Another thought on this one .... once the K4 starts rolling off the production line in significant numbers, I would predict we will see more K3 and K3S appear on the second hand market. Will owners separate out the extras from the basic K3 K3S and sell thiese as stand alone boards/ filters ? 

From what I see on ebay there is more money to be made selling these used boards/ filters as separates, which do not necessarlily add the same value to a complete radio.

73

Bob G4DBW

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