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K3S parts availability???

Fred-K0FG
 

How long has the K3S been discontinued?   Or has it been discontinued?   Is it obsolete?   I have a K3 and a K3s.   The K3S recently took a surge during a storm that wiped out the KIO3B USB connectivity function.   Replacement parts are not available.   I am on a list to get one, if/when they decide to make more.   Do I just give up on the K3S?   Are they just pushing the K4.   Customer support did not say they don't have the parts in stock, they just said to put your name on the list so if they decide to make more they will let you know.  No estimated date of when they will even make the decision, let alone make the parts?   It all depends on demand???   Does not sound very comforting to me.    Yeah, I am very disappointed.
Fred, K0FG


Re: Best way to remote a K3 or K3S

KE8G
 

Colin,
I use a WebRelay manufactured by the Control by Web Company, model # X-WR-1R12-1i5-i ( the "i" are capitalized, but too hard to tell in an email).  I use this to bring PIN 8 to ground and that turns on the K3S.  First off, when I am away from the station, I use Chrome Remote Desktop to get into the PC at the station.  I open a web browser and use the IP address of http://192.168.1.45 which is what the WebRelay is configured to.  The set up is pretty straight forward in the instruction manual.  This then turns on the K3S.
  Next, I turn on the Win4K3suiite, after that is running, I turn on the N1MM+ software.  When using this combination, you need to provide a virtual com port as N1MM and Win4K3Suite want to use the same com port for rig control.  I use 0com0, which is a free download and follow the directions to configure it.  Once those two programs are running, I access the KAT500 via its software to keep a watch on the antennas.  If I am going to use the KPA500, I activate that software,   To rotate my beam antennas, I have a Green Heron control box that is hooked via USB to the PC and use N1mm+ to change beam headings.

After all of that, it's pretty much "point and click" to operate the radio, tuner, amp, rotor, etc.  It's pretty much like sitting down in front of the radio.  

The only thing that I don't like is not being able to use the paddles when I am operating remotely, I haven't figured that out yet.  I am working on a way to remote into WinKeyer with another Winkeyer at the control PC.  Until then, if I want to send anything other than the "canned" messages in N1MM+, I use the keyboard.

One more thing, to view the P3, I set a webcam in front of it and use its software to see the band.  I can control the P3 using macros with Win4K3suite.

Sounds pretty involved, but it's really not.

I hope that helps.
73 de JIm - KE8G


On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 7:41 PM Colin Smithers <colin@...> wrote:

Thanks very much Jim – I didn’t realise the Win4K3 had that capability too. You live and learn!

 

Could you describe your webrelay and web browser solutions a bit more please? – just enough to point me in the right direction.

 

Thanks!

 

73, Colin G4CWH

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of KE8G via groups.io
Sent: 04 November 2020 23:55
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Best way to remote a K3 or K3S

 

I started out using RemoteRig about 5 or 6 years ago, but have since gone to a combination of software.  I use Win4K3suite & N1mm+ with the Winkeyer.  I have a webrelay that is used to turn the K3s on via a web browser, then everything is controlled either by Win4K3suite or N1mm+.  I have been using this set up for about 4 years now and I really like it.  To control the KAT500 and KPA500, I use Elecraft's software.  I spend a lot of time away from my shack, so this is a great alternative.

 

A very inexpensive alternative to buying the RemoteRig boxes.

 

Good luck in your quest!

73 de Jim - KE8G

 

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 6:29 PM Colin Smithers <colin@...> wrote:

Thanks all for your comments.

I'm now trying to try out the Remotehams software..

73, Colin G4CWH

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint via groups.io
Sent: 04 November 2020 17:07
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Best way to remote a K3 or K3S

Colin,
    Remotehams.com software can use the K3 or K3/0 as a "front panel"
when the remote server is connected to a K3.  The amount of "front
panel" that is active is less if the remote radio is NOT a k3.  I use it
with a Kenwood TS-590sg and it gives me the basic knobs, but more with a
K3 on the remote end.
And the software is free, so its worth a try before investing in
RemoteRig.  I also have remoterig, which is great, but pricey.
Gordon - N1MGO

On 11/4/2020 10:59 AM, Colin Smithers wrote:
> Who has had great success remoting a K3 or K3S?
>
> I have the K3/0 and I'm considering Remoterig?...
>
> Your views welcomed
>
> 73, Colin G4CWH
>
>
>
>
>
>











Re: Best way to remote a K3 or K3S

Colin Smithers
 

Thanks very much Jim – I didn’t realise the Win4K3 had that capability too. You live and learn!

 

Could you describe your webrelay and web browser solutions a bit more please? – just enough to point me in the right direction.

 

Thanks!

 

73, Colin G4CWH

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of KE8G via groups.io
Sent: 04 November 2020 23:55
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Best way to remote a K3 or K3S

 

I started out using RemoteRig about 5 or 6 years ago, but have since gone to a combination of software.  I use Win4K3suite & N1mm+ with the Winkeyer.  I have a webrelay that is used to turn the K3s on via a web browser, then everything is controlled either by Win4K3suite or N1mm+.  I have been using this set up for about 4 years now and I really like it.  To control the KAT500 and KPA500, I use Elecraft's software.  I spend a lot of time away from my shack, so this is a great alternative.

 

A very inexpensive alternative to buying the RemoteRig boxes.

 

Good luck in your quest!

73 de Jim - KE8G

 

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 6:29 PM Colin Smithers <colin@...> wrote:

Thanks all for your comments.

I'm now trying to try out the Remotehams software..

73, Colin G4CWH

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint via groups.io
Sent: 04 November 2020 17:07
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Best way to remote a K3 or K3S

Colin,
    Remotehams.com software can use the K3 or K3/0 as a "front panel"
when the remote server is connected to a K3.  The amount of "front
panel" that is active is less if the remote radio is NOT a k3.  I use it
with a Kenwood TS-590sg and it gives me the basic knobs, but more with a
K3 on the remote end.
And the software is free, so its worth a try before investing in
RemoteRig.  I also have remoterig, which is great, but pricey.
Gordon - N1MGO

On 11/4/2020 10:59 AM, Colin Smithers wrote:
> Who has had great success remoting a K3 or K3S?
>
> I have the K3/0 and I'm considering Remoterig?...
>
> Your views welcomed
>
> 73, Colin G4CWH
>
>
>
>
>
>











Re: Best way to remote a K3 or K3S

KE8G
 

I started out using RemoteRig about 5 or 6 years ago, but have since gone to a combination of software.  I use Win4K3suite & N1mm+ with the Winkeyer.  I have a webrelay that is used to turn the K3s on via a web browser, then everything is controlled either by Win4K3suite or N1mm+.  I have been using this set up for about 4 years now and I really like it.  To control the KAT500 and KPA500, I use Elecraft's software.  I spend a lot of time away from my shack, so this is a great alternative.

A very inexpensive alternative to buying the RemoteRig boxes.

Good luck in your quest!
73 de Jim - KE8G

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 6:29 PM Colin Smithers <colin@...> wrote:
Thanks all for your comments.

I'm now trying to try out the Remotehams software..

73, Colin G4CWH

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint via groups.io
Sent: 04 November 2020 17:07
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Best way to remote a K3 or K3S

Colin,
    Remotehams.com software can use the K3 or K3/0 as a "front panel"
when the remote server is connected to a K3.  The amount of "front
panel" that is active is less if the remote radio is NOT a k3.  I use it
with a Kenwood TS-590sg and it gives me the basic knobs, but more with a
K3 on the remote end.
And the software is free, so its worth a try before investing in
RemoteRig.  I also have remoterig, which is great, but pricey.
Gordon - N1MGO

On 11/4/2020 10:59 AM, Colin Smithers wrote:
> Who has had great success remoting a K3 or K3S?
>
> I have the K3/0 and I'm considering Remoterig?...
>
> Your views welcomed
>
> 73, Colin G4CWH
>
>
>
>
>
>












Re: Best way to remote a K3 or K3S

Colin Smithers
 

Thanks all for your comments.

I'm now trying to try out the Remotehams software..

73, Colin G4CWH

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint via groups.io
Sent: 04 November 2020 17:07
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Best way to remote a K3 or K3S

Colin,
   Remotehams.com software can use the K3 or K3/0 as a "front panel"
when the remote server is connected to a K3.  The amount of "front
panel" that is active is less if the remote radio is NOT a k3.  I use it
with a Kenwood TS-590sg and it gives me the basic knobs, but more with a
K3 on the remote end.
And the software is free, so its worth a try before investing in
RemoteRig.  I also have remoterig, which is great, but pricey.
Gordon - N1MGO

On 11/4/2020 10:59 AM, Colin Smithers wrote:
Who has had great success remoting a K3 or K3S?

I have the K3/0 and I'm considering Remoterig?...

Your views welcomed

73, Colin G4CWH






Re: Best way to remote a K3 or K3S

Gordon LaPoint
 

Colin,
   Remotehams.com software can use the K3 or K3/0 as a "front panel" when the remote server is connected to a K3.  The amount of "front panel" that is active is less if the remote radio is NOT a k3.  I use it with a Kenwood TS-590sg and it gives me the basic knobs, but more with a K3 on the remote end.
And the software is free, so its worth a try before investing in RemoteRig.  I also have remoterig, which is great, but pricey.
Gordon - N1MGO

On 11/4/2020 10:59 AM, Colin Smithers wrote:
Who has had great success remoting a K3 or K3S?

I have the K3/0 and I'm considering Remoterig?...

Your views welcomed

73, Colin G4CWH





Re: Best way to remote a K3 or K3S

Mark Morin
 

I've used the K3/0 with RemoteRig for several years now and it works very well. I love the remote transparency, just like being in front of the K3. Downsides: pricy but I don't regret the expense, and it can take some effort to set up and configure, especially if your remote ISP does not provide you with a public IP address. In that case, some knowledge of IP networking and Virtual Private Networks (VPN) would be an asset, or the willingness to tinker and learn. That was my biggest challenge and I ended up I have set up a dedicated Raspberry Pi on each end to host a Logmein Hamachi VPN, and a backup N2N Edge VPN to be able to log into the remote site if the main VPN disconnects. Your internet connections should be low latency and low jitter at both ends, otherwise the audio may be choppy. 

I use my K3 remotely almost every day this way and I'm very happy with the setup. If you go this route and have trouble setting it up, I may be able to provide some suggestions.

Mark VA2MM


Best way to remote a K3 or K3S

Colin Smithers
 

Who has had great success remoting a K3 or K3S?

I have the K3/0 and I'm considering Remoterig?...

Your views welcomed

73, Colin G4CWH


Re: K3 Config and Main Menu Dump?

Ed
 

Thank you for the suggestions and spreadsheet.  The club K3 radios are set up for remote control via RemoteHams.com software, so most of the the Win4K3Suite features wouldn't be used.  I will manually record the settings, and save it for our records.
73,
Ed
N2BHD


test 4

Bill Eggers, WB2RIS
 

one more try.  Please ignore if you see this.

Thanks, Bill WB2RIS


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Re: info for service manual

Alessandro iw3inq
 




ok I found the service manual for my problems

low gain  all  band of rx

73 Alex iw3inq


Re: K3 Config and Main Menu Dump?

Jim N7US
 

You're welcome, Mike.

With Wayne's permission, I did a copy and paste from the PDF manual into Excel, but that was several yeas ago, so it doesn't include the most recent firmware updates.

With my K3S, I keep track of the settings the old fashioned way, by writing them down on a printed copy of that section of the manual.  I also have VA2FSQ's program, which I really like.



Jim N7US
Sent from Samsung tablet


-------- Original message --------
From: "Mike Flowers via groups.io" <mike.flowers@...>
Date: 11/2/20 10:13 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 Config and Main Menu Dump?

Hi Jim,

I also sent them your excellent spreadsheet - thanks for preparing that one. 

-- 73 de Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - "It's about DX!"

On Nov 2, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Jim N7US <jim@...> wrote:



VA2FSQ’s Win4K3Suite can do that and much more.

 

https://va2fsq.com/

 

73,  Jim N7US

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 08:56
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] K3 Config and Main Menu Dump?

 

Is there a way to read back the K3 Config and Main Menu settings into a spreadsheet or CSV file?  I have two club K3 stations that occasionally experience some changes to the menus.  It would be nice to be able to quickly verify what the changes were, and if necessary restore the menus.
Thanks & 73,
Ed
N2BHD

_._,_._,_


Re: K3 Config and Main Menu Dump?

Mike Flowers
 

Hi Jim,

I also sent them your excellent spreadsheet - thanks for preparing that one. 

-- 73 de Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - "It's about DX!"

On Nov 2, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Jim N7US <jim@...> wrote:



VA2FSQ’s Win4K3Suite can do that and much more.

 

https://va2fsq.com/

 

73,  Jim N7US

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 08:56
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] K3 Config and Main Menu Dump?

 

Is there a way to read back the K3 Config and Main Menu settings into a spreadsheet or CSV file?  I have two club K3 stations that occasionally experience some changes to the menus.  It would be nice to be able to quickly verify what the changes were, and if necessary restore the menus.
Thanks & 73,
Ed
N2BHD


Re: K3 Config and Main Menu Dump?

Jim N7US
 

VA2FSQ’s Win4K3Suite can do that and much more.

 

https://va2fsq.com/

 

73,  Jim N7US

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 08:56
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] K3 Config and Main Menu Dump?

 

Is there a way to read back the K3 Config and Main Menu settings into a spreadsheet or CSV file?  I have two club K3 stations that occasionally experience some changes to the menus.  It would be nice to be able to quickly verify what the changes were, and if necessary restore the menus.
Thanks & 73,
Ed
N2BHD


Re: K3 Config and Main Menu Dump?

Mel Marcus
 

Ed

There is an old k3 program that allows you to download and save the k3s config. there is another one that keeps the memories.

Mel
NE9A

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] K3 Config and Main Menu Dump?
From: "Ed via groups.io" <elancki@...>
Date: Mon, November 02, 2020 8:56 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

Is there a way to read back the K3 Config and Main Menu settings into a spreadsheet or CSV file?  I have two club K3 stations that occasionally experience some changes to the menus.  It would be nice to be able to quickly verify what the changes were, and if necessary restore the menus.
Thanks & 73,
Ed
N2BHD


K3 Config and Main Menu Dump?

Ed
 

Is there a way to read back the K3 Config and Main Menu settings into a spreadsheet or CSV file?  I have two club K3 stations that occasionally experience some changes to the menus.  It would be nice to be able to quickly verify what the changes were, and if necessary restore the menus.
Thanks & 73,
Ed
N2BHD


Re: K3 Receiver Noise Troubleshooting - PROBLEM SOLVED

Peder Kittelson
 

Thank you for your email.  Fortunately, it appears you untangled a difficult problem, congratulations.


Re: K3 Receiver Noise Troubleshooting - PROBLEM SOLVED

Robert <rdiamant36@...>
 

Bob,
I am attaching 3 screenshots of harmonics generation by diodes driven into conduction.
This is theory and I don't know how to quantify the result in case of the K3 input connected to an antenna.
73, Robert


On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 1:59 PM Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcgraw@...> wrote:
The fallacy in using a diode across the RX input is that when presented
with enough RF for the diode to conduct, it produces wide band
harmonics.   Those harmonics will then likely be radiated by the antenna
attached to that input.  We encounter enough noise pollution on the
bands without creating more pollution.  In many instances these
harmonics are of significant amplitude that could cause your signal to
be transmitted on frequencies outside of the ham bands.

The safe way to protect RX input is with either band pass filter or
notch filter.  Either of these will attenuate the offending RF that
might cause receiver damage.

73

Bob, K4TAX


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Elecraft K3S - Repair Person in greater Boston Area?

K1dj
 

My K3S has a problem (defective connections to internal keyer paddle socket) which will require some disassembly to reach and fix. Does anybody know anyone in the Boston South Shore / Greater Boston area who does K3 repairs, whether for fun or profit?

Ok to reply off list to me at k1dj@aol.com

Thanks and 73 - Rich, K1DJ


Re: K3 Receiver Noise Troubleshooting - PROBLEM SOLVED

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

The fallacy in using a diode across the RX input is that when presented with enough RF for the diode to conduct, it produces wide band harmonics.   Those harmonics will then likely be radiated by the antenna attached to that input.  We encounter enough noise pollution on the bands without creating more pollution.  In many instances these harmonics are of significant amplitude that could cause your signal to be transmitted on frequencies outside of the ham bands.

The safe way to protect RX input is with either band pass filter or notch filter.  Either of these will attenuate the offending RF that might cause receiver damage.

73

Bob, K4TAX


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