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Re: K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

QUENTIN COLLIER
 

Yes - well worth a try...whenever mine goes loopy (over and above my personal incompetence that is) just pulling a bit of paper between the paddle contacts invariably does the biz.



73, Quin G3WRR




------ Original Message ------
From: "KE8G" <ke8g.jim@...>
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 8 Oct, 20 At 12:52
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

Hi Rich,
Sorry to hear about your problem.

Have you tried cleaning the paddle contacts?

73 de Jim - KE8G

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 7:28 AM K1dj via groups.io <k1dj=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
My K3S s/n 11064 has a new problem, which first occurred on Sunday October 4, 2020.

My primary mode is CW, and since the radio arrived in December 2016, I have been relying primarily on the internal keyer for manual keying. This past Sunday, the internal keyer stopped sending dahs, i.e., stopped responding when I keyed dahs. As currently set up, my paddles are connected directly to the paddle jack on the back of the radio, using the default configuration with dits on the tip, and dahs on the ring, of the stereo plug. I have checked the wiring at the paddles and plug ends of my insulated cable, and confirmed that it is intact. So I believe the problem is inside the K3S. It could be as simple as a defective or dirty socket, or an open connection to the ring of the socket, which does not appear to be accessible without substantial disassembly of the radio. Or I am wondering if it might reflect some kind of software issue instead.

The internal CW memories have not been affected. The radio can still be keyed electronically via my logging software (N1MM+). And as, hopefully, a temporary work-around, I have wired a WinKey USB in parallel with my straight key and have successfully keyed the radio with that.

Please let me know if you have had this problem with your K3S (or K3), and if so, how you diagnosed and solved it?

Thanks and 73 -

Rich, K1DJ





Re: K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

KE8G
 

Hi Rich,
Sorry to hear about your problem.

Have you tried cleaning the paddle contacts?

73 de Jim - KE8G

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 7:28 AM K1dj via groups.io <k1dj=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
My K3S s/n 11064 has a new problem, which first occurred on Sunday October 4, 2020.

My primary mode is CW, and since the radio arrived in December 2016, I have been relying primarily on the internal keyer for manual keying.  This past Sunday, the internal keyer stopped sending dahs, i.e., stopped responding when I keyed dahs.  As currently set up, my paddles are connected directly to the paddle jack on the back of the radio, using the default configuration with dits on the tip, and dahs on the ring, of the stereo plug.  I have checked the wiring at the paddles and plug ends of my insulated cable, and confirmed that it is intact.  So I believe the problem is inside the K3S.  It could be as simple as a defective or dirty socket, or an open connection to the ring of the socket, which does not appear to be accessible without substantial disassembly of the radio.  Or I am wondering if it might reflect some kind of software issue instead.

The internal CW memories have not been affected.  The radio can still be keyed electronically via my logging software (N1MM+).  And as, hopefully, a temporary work-around, I have wired a WinKey USB in parallel with my straight key and have successfully keyed the radio with that.

Please let me know if you have had this problem with your K3S (or K3), and if so, how you diagnosed and solved it?

Thanks and 73 -

Rich, K1DJ





Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

Jeffrey griffin
 

I recently sent my KPA500 back for repair and as I purchased it as a kit I had no packing! I did remove the transformer after I determined with Elecraft it wasn’t the problem. I boxed it up well  with foam packing, and brought it to a UPS store and had them double box it before shipping. When it was returned Elecraft packed it like they would a new amp  they shipped. So now I have an assembled amp shipping box. Just curious, does Elecraft ship a new amp in two boxes  with the transformer packed separately?

 

73 Jeff kb2m

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Baines via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:11 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

 

 



On Oct 7, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Richard Williams via groups.io <k8ztt@...> wrote:

 

I agree; for a high value item that is heavy, I use the UPS store or FedEx.  I think when you use one of these, any damage claims are honored.

 

Not to pick on Lou,  Richard or anyone else, but didn’t anyone save the boxes/packing material that the KPA1500 and other high value gear was shipped?  As a rule, I keep the boxes/packing materials that my high value equipment was shipped to me so that I would have the proper materials to return the item for repair, or ship the new owner if I was selling.  I don’t have a KPA-1500, but I do have all of the boxes for my K3-P3-KPA-500 and KAT-500 as well as my Flex gear (5000, 6700, PGXL).  I have in fact sent the K3 to Elecraft for upgrades, the 6700 to Flex for warranty work, the PGXL to Flex for warranty work, and when I had a Alpha 9500 it was shipped to RF Concepts for repair (lightning damage).  

 

No need to have ‘professional packing’ when you had ‘right packing material’ shipped to you in the first place and you’ve already paid for it {e.g. "The packing material for the KPA1500 cost $5,995.00 and they threw in the amplifier for free"….  ;-)   }

 

FWIW,

 

 

Barry, WD4ASW/1

 

 



 

Had a couple issues with my KPA1500 way back, and found it more economical to tear out the board in need of repair and send it back; rather than send back the whole amp and insure the shipping.  Since the board probably weighed less than a pound, I packed it myself; but I would not do that if I had to send back the amp.

 

If Elecraft doesn't need the whole amp to fix your problem, you might remove the board that is the problem, and send that back.  It will save you a buck or two.

 

Dick, K8ZTT

 

Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man.

What is first, you ask? Landing, of course.

"A good aviator will always have his take-offs plus landings divisible by 2!"

 


K3S internal keyer problem: no dahs

K1dj
 

My K3S s/n 11064 has a new problem, which first occurred on Sunday October 4, 2020.

My primary mode is CW, and since the radio arrived in December 2016, I have been relying primarily on the internal keyer for manual keying.  This past Sunday, the internal keyer stopped sending dahs, i.e., stopped responding when I keyed dahs.  As currently set up, my paddles are connected directly to the paddle jack on the back of the radio, using the default configuration with dits on the tip, and dahs on the ring, of the stereo plug.  I have checked the wiring at the paddles and plug ends of my insulated cable, and confirmed that it is intact.  So I believe the problem is inside the K3S.  It could be as simple as a defective or dirty socket, or an open connection to the ring of the socket, which does not appear to be accessible without substantial disassembly of the radio.  Or I am wondering if it might reflect some kind of software issue instead.

The internal CW memories have not been affected.  The radio can still be keyed electronically via my logging software (N1MM+).  And as, hopefully, a temporary work-around, I have wired a WinKey USB in parallel with my straight key and have successfully keyed the radio with that.

Please let me know if you have had this problem with your K3S (or K3), and if so, how you diagnosed and solved it?

Thanks and 73 -

Rich, K1DJ





Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

Ray Maxfield
 

You MUST Check with the Company doing the Shipping

If the contents  will be Covered IF the Shipping Company does Not Pack the Item being Shipped.

FYI   WA6VAB

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Barry Baines via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 6:10 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

 

 



On Oct 7, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Richard Williams via groups.io <k8ztt@...> wrote:

 

I agree; for a high value item that is heavy, I use the UPS store or FedEx.  I think when you use one of these, any damage claims are honored.

 

Not to pick on Lou,  Richard or anyone else, but didn’t anyone save the boxes/packing material that the KPA1500 and other high value gear was shipped?  As a rule, I keep the boxes/packing materials that my high value equipment was shipped to me so that I would have the proper materials to return the item for repair, or ship the new owner if I was selling.  I don’t have a KPA-1500, but I do have all of the boxes for my K3-P3-KPA-500 and KAT-500 as well as my Flex gear (5000, 6700, PGXL).  I have in fact sent the K3 to Elecraft for upgrades, the 6700 to Flex for warranty work, the PGXL to Flex for warranty work, and when I had a Alpha 9500 it was shipped to RF Concepts for repair (lightning damage).  

 

No need to have ‘professional packing’ when you had ‘right packing material’ shipped to you in the first place and you’ve already paid for it {e.g. "The packing material for the KPA1500 cost $5,995.00 and they threw in the amplifier for free"….  ;-)   }

 

FWIW,

 

 

Barry, WD4ASW/1

 

 



 

Had a couple issues with my KPA1500 way back, and found it more economical to tear out the board in need of repair and send it back; rather than send back the whole amp and insure the shipping.  Since the board probably weighed less than a pound, I packed it myself; but I would not do that if I had to send back the amp.

 

If Elecraft doesn't need the whole amp to fix your problem, you might remove the board that is the problem, and send that back.  It will save you a buck or two.

 

Dick, K8ZTT

 

Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man.

What is first, you ask? Landing, of course.

"A good aviator will always have his take-offs plus landings divisible by 2!"

 

 


Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

Dan Abell
 

FedEx “foam packs”?  Not sure than anyone uses that method anymore.   Regardless having FedEx pack the amp is good insurance if FedEx will assume all liability.   For those that have suggesting using the original packing materials read the following from FedEx on reusing these materials https://www.fedex.com/content/dam/fedex/us-united-states/services/Computer_fxcom.pdf
Dan w3dka

On Oct 7, 2020, at 8:03 PM, KE1F Lou <lmecseri@...> wrote:


Thank you for your advice,  I will do it.

73, Lou KE1F 



Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A

-------- Original message --------
From: SGS 126 <brloper@...>
Date: 10/7/20 5:29 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

I would have Fedex foam pack it, it’s not as expensive as you might think


Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

Barry Baines
 



On Oct 7, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Richard Williams via groups.io <k8ztt@...> wrote:

I agree; for a high value item that is heavy, I use the UPS store or FedEx.  I think when you use one of these, any damage claims are honored.

Not to pick on Lou,  Richard or anyone else, but didn’t anyone save the boxes/packing material that the KPA1500 and other high value gear was shipped?  As a rule, I keep the boxes/packing materials that my high value equipment was shipped to me so that I would have the proper materials to return the item for repair, or ship the new owner if I was selling.  I don’t have a KPA-1500, but I do have all of the boxes for my K3-P3-KPA-500 and KAT-500 as well as my Flex gear (5000, 6700, PGXL).  I have in fact sent the K3 to Elecraft for upgrades, the 6700 to Flex for warranty work, the PGXL to Flex for warranty work, and when I had a Alpha 9500 it was shipped to RF Concepts for repair (lightning damage).  

No need to have ‘professional packing’ when you had ‘right packing material’ shipped to you in the first place and you’ve already paid for it {e.g. "The packing material for the KPA1500 cost $5,995.00 and they threw in the amplifier for free"….  ;-)   }

FWIW,


Barry, WD4ASW/1




Had a couple issues with my KPA1500 way back, and found it more economical to tear out the board in need of repair and send it back; rather than send back the whole amp and insure the shipping.  Since the board probably weighed less than a pound, I packed it myself; but I would not do that if I had to send back the amp.

If Elecraft doesn't need the whole amp to fix your problem, you might remove the board that is the problem, and send that back.  It will save you a buck or two.

Dick, K8ZTT

Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man.
What is first, you ask? Landing, of course.
"A good aviator will always have his take-offs plus landings divisible by 2!"


Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

KE1F Lou
 

Thank you for your advice,  I will do it.

73, Lou KE1F 



Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A

-------- Original message --------
From: SGS 126 <brloper@...>
Date: 10/7/20 5:29 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

I would have Fedex foam pack it, it’s not as expensive as you might think


Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

Richard Williams
 

I agree; for a high value item that is heavy, I use the UPS store or FedEx.  I think when you use one of these, any damage claims are honored.

Had a couple issues with my KPA1500 way back, and found it more economical to tear out the board in need of repair and send it back; rather than send back the whole amp and insure the shipping.  Since the board probably weighed less than a pound, I packed it myself; but I would not do that if I had to send back the amp.

If Elecraft doesn't need the whole amp to fix your problem, you might remove the board that is the problem, and send that back.  It will save you a buck or two.

Dick, K8ZTT

Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man.
What is first, you ask? Landing, of course.
"A good aviator will always have his take-offs plus landings divisible by 2!"







On Wednesday, October 7, 2020, 04:43:34 PM MDT, redarlington <rdarlington@...> wrote:


Get a professional to pack it.  I had somebody recently send me something that was packed terribly.  Really piss poor.  And it was damaged.  Couldn't understand how it broke with that one tiny layer of bubble wrap on the front panel when packed into a box just exactly the same size as the item.  It was a Dentron tuner that weighed nearly 20 pounds.  Insides were smashed, knobs broken off.   

If you're asking, do yourself a favor and pay a professional.  There is no way the shipping company would have paid out a claim on this thing.

-Bob

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 3:10 PM KE1F Lou <lmecseri@...> wrote:


I have to ship my KPA500 from Florida to the factory for repair.
I am sure others had to do the same.
This is a heavy piece of equipment. 
I would appreciate advise from other's who done that before.
73, Lou KE1F 

Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A


Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

Barry Baines
 



On Oct 7, 2020, at 6:33 PM, Jerry <W1ie@...> wrote:

George,
 
If you are able, remove the transformer using the reverse instructions for installing the transformer. The KPA500 manual is on the Elecraft web site. A helpful thing is to make a crude drawing of where all the wires associated with the removal of the transformer will be when you get the amp back from the mothership.

Or, use your smartphone to take photos of the connection points.  This obviates the potential for having the wrong orientation when the amp is returned and you’re trying to figure out which connection point is what.  

73,

Barry, WD4ASW1

Elecraft will use their own transformer to make you amp right again.
 
Best regards,
 
Jerry, W1IE
nuvFig*jucqy0


Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

SGS 126
 

I would have Fedex foam pack it, it’s not as expensive as you might think


Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

redarlington <rdarlington@...>
 

Get a professional to pack it.  I had somebody recently send me something that was packed terribly.  Really piss poor.  And it was damaged.  Couldn't understand how it broke with that one tiny layer of bubble wrap on the front panel when packed into a box just exactly the same size as the item.  It was a Dentron tuner that weighed nearly 20 pounds.  Insides were smashed, knobs broken off.   

If you're asking, do yourself a favor and pay a professional.  There is no way the shipping company would have paid out a claim on this thing.

-Bob

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 3:10 PM KE1F Lou <lmecseri@...> wrote:


I have to ship my KPA500 from Florida to the factory for repair.
I am sure others had to do the same.
This is a heavy piece of equipment. 
I would appreciate advise from other's who done that before.
73, Lou KE1F 

Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A


Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

Jerry
 

George,

 

If you are able, remove the transformer using the reverse instructions for installing the transformer. The KPA500 manual is on the Elecraft web site. A helpful thing is to make a crude drawing of where all the wires associated with the removal of the transformer will be when you get the amp back from the mothership.  Elecraft will use their own transformer to make you amp right again.

 

Best regards,

 

Jerry, W1IE

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of George Pappayliou via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 17:50 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

 

I removed the transformer as well—it’s not hard. If you have a factory built unit make sure you note the wiring connections before you unhook them (not necessary on the kit as the hookup instructions are in the manual).

 

Be sure to insure it. I sent mine back via the USPS and they managed to bash the corner of the box. Because it was at Elecraft getting a repair estimate (sheetmetal only) for the claim was easy and the claim process online was straightforward. They paid promptly. I have heard that UPS insurance claims can be more challenging.

 

Regards, George

------------------------------------

George S. Pappayliou

 



On Oct 7, 2020, at 5:07 PM, KE1F Lou <lmecseri@...> wrote:



 

 

I have to ship my KPA500 from Florida to the factory for repair.

I am sure others had to do the same.

This is a heavy piece of equipment. 

I would appreciate advise from other's who done that before.

73, Lou KE1F 

 

Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A


Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

George Pappayliou
 

I removed the transformer as well—it’s not hard. If you have a factory built unit make sure you note the wiring connections before you unhook them (not necessary on the kit as the hookup instructions are in the manual).

Be sure to insure it. I sent mine back via the USPS and they managed to bash the corner of the box. Because it was at Elecraft getting a repair estimate (sheetmetal only) for the claim was easy and the claim process online was straightforward. They paid promptly. I have heard that UPS insurance claims can be more challenging.


Regards, George
------------------------------------
George S. Pappayliou


On Oct 7, 2020, at 5:07 PM, KE1F Lou <lmecseri@...> wrote:




I have to ship my KPA500 from Florida to the factory for repair.
I am sure others had to do the same.
This is a heavy piece of equipment. 
I would appreciate advise from other's who done that before.
73, Lou KE1F 

Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A


Re: Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

barry NF1O
 

when i sent mine back they asked me to remove the transformer, so thats what i did
Barry
NF1O


From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> on behalf of KE1F Lou <lmecseri@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 5:07 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] Shipping a KPA500 to factory.
 


I have to ship my KPA500 from Florida to the factory for repair.
I am sure others had to do the same.
This is a heavy piece of equipment. 
I would appreciate advise from other's who done that before.
73, Lou KE1F 

Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A


Shipping a KPA500 to factory.

KE1F Lou
 



I have to ship my KPA500 from Florida to the factory for repair.
I am sure others had to do the same.
This is a heavy piece of equipment. 
I would appreciate advise from other's who done that before.
73, Lou KE1F 

Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A


Re: K Pod mis triggering

Charlie T, k3ICH
 

I’ve replaced the snap switches in my favorite Microsoft wireless mouse several times, especially the right click which gets 100X more use than the others.

There are a couple different “foot-print” configurations of switches, but as the joke punch line goes, “If it fits, wear it”.

 

73, Charlie k3ICH

 

 

 

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of ke9uw
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 10:30 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K Pod mis triggering

 

I did open it up and they do look replaceable. The switch is surface mounted with 4 solder points as I remember. I'll have to get some from Elecraft or maybe better get the manufacturer/part number.

 


Re: K Pod mis triggering

ke9uw
 

I did open it up and they do look replaceable. The switch is surface mounted with 4 solder points as I remember. I'll have to get some from Elecraft or maybe better get the manufacturer/part number.


Re: K Pod mis triggering

Jim Pyle
 

I too have experienced the same problem and moved often used macros to other buttons.  When I contacted Elecraft I learned replacement switches are available from them.  Sorry but I don’t recall the part number.

Jim, AA8OY


Re: K Pod mis triggering

Mike Flowers
 

Yes, I’ve noticed  this problem from time to time.   

I do not think that the switches are sufficiently robust for that level of use.  Perhaps a replacement could be found.  I haven’t opened my K-POD to see if replacement is even possible. 

-- 73 de Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - "It's about DX!"

On Oct 6, 2020, at 4:46 PM, ke9uw <c-hawley@...> wrote:

Has anyone had mis triggering? Often used buttons trigger the wrong macro sometimes. This is my third one. They last about 6 months and then mis trigger. I moved the macros on the offending buttons to other buttons and all works well again for the macros I use a lot. Probably for another 6 months.

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