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Re: No USB Audio Codec

ve3ki
 

Is there something plugged into the Line In jack on the back of the K3S? I believe that will disable the internal codec in the radio. Also, for CAT control via the USB connection, you need to set CONFIG:RS232 to USB - and, of course, the correct FTDI device driver needs to be installed in the computer for the USB serial port. This is not necessary for the audio codec, as the default Windows driver works for that. You should, however, check to make sure that Windows has not assigned the audio codec in the radio as its default sound card device for either recording or playback (ditto for default communications device). Make sure all of those are reset to the motherboard sound card in the Windows sound card settings window.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 02:37 PM, w0rw wrote:
i am having trouble getting my K3s on  FT8.
i have an old Dell Optiplex 980, Windows 7, with probably some missing drivers.
i don't get and CODEC labels when i go to the Device Manager and look at the Sound input/outputs.
as described by  K4TAX:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 09:03 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:

Windows Device manager you should have two items.  The first under Ports (COM & LPT) showing the USB Serial port and a port number.  This is the port that controls the radio under CAT.   Shown below.

Then a bit further down you should see under Sound, Video and Game controllers the USB CODEC.   This should appear when you connect the USB cable from the radio to the computer and then turn on the radio. 

i have set up the WSTJ program using the USB cable and the simple method using Fig 6-6 in Fred Cady (KE7X's) book. i have set up the WSTJ settings to K3s, USB and multiple variations of the Radio and Audio settings and always get a Rig i/o configure failure.
The Frequency Box goes Red and displays 00.0000, i can only get the correct frequency to come back by resetting the rig configuration.
i have read many of the K3s  FT8 setups on the web but nothing has worked so far.
i did get some FT8 receive data when using direct audio connections.
i have set all the K3s menu items up Data A, Mic Sel to Line In, Nothing is plugged into the Line in/out jacks for the USB connection.
There are 12 variables and i have not been able to get the right key.
Paul     w0rw
Re: No USB Audio Codec

w0rw
 

i am having trouble getting my K3s on  FT8.
i have an old Dell Optiplex 980, Windows 7, with probably some missing drivers.
i don't get and CODEC labels when i go to the Device Manager and look at the Sound input/outputs.
as described by  K4TAX:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 09:03 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:

Windows Device manager you should have two items.  The first under Ports (COM & LPT) showing the USB Serial port and a port number.  This is the port that controls the radio under CAT.   Shown below.

Then a bit further down you should see under Sound, Video and Game controllers the USB CODEC.   This should appear when you connect the USB cable from the radio to the computer and then turn on the radio. 

i have set up the WSTJ program using the USB cable and the simple method using Fig 6-6 in Fred Cady (KE7X's) book. i have set up the WSTJ settings to K3s, USB and multiple variations of the Radio and Audio settings and always get a Rig i/o configure failure.
The Frequency Box goes Red and displays 00.0000, i can only get the correct frequency to come back by resetting the rig configuration.
i have read many of the K3s  FT8 setups on the web but nothing has worked so far.
i did get some FT8 receive data when using direct audio connections.
i have set all the K3s menu items up Data A, Mic Sel to Line In, Nothing is plugged into the Line in/out jacks for the USB connection.
There are 12 variables and i have not been able to get the right key.
Paul     w0rw
Re: Wanted - K3 internal tuner

N6KR
 

Hi Andy,

If you strike out, let me know. I may be able to scare up a spare KAT3A here at home.

Wayne
N6KR

On Apr 11, 2020, at 6:02 AM, andrew vavra via groups.io <avavra1=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Thanks Wayne. I knew that.

Fact is that internal tuners aren't available from anyone anymore and the only opportunity is to get one from someone parting-out a rig.

Preference is for the genuine article, whether K3 "Classic" or K3S. I would barely use it anyway since I run the full K Line and tune with the KAT500.

My interest is mainly in completing the K3S I already own in case I decide to separate it from the KPA500/KAT500 to add something new to the shack.

What's the latest status on the K4?

- Andy, KD3RF
K3/0 mini cabinetry options?

Dennis Ashworth
 

I purchased a K3/0 mini several years ago and have been pleased with its performance. My initial thought was the K3/0 mini would be perfect for travel, but I’m really not happy with having to connect power supplies, the RemoteRig box and various interconnecting cables. It isn’t really a solution which you can pickup and easily move to a different location.

I have heard of some ops who have purchased the K3/0 (non mini) and enclosed all the supporting hardware inside the cabinet. This seems reasonable ... you’d have the same ‘floor space’ as the K3 with all the components and interconnects inside.

My goal is to have something I can pick up and move from the house to the patio or wherever, as a consolidated package. Has anyone devised a solution they would like to share?

Thanks
Dennis, K7FL
Re: Wanted - K3 internal tuner

David Ferrington, M0XDF
 

Was going to post the same Chris. 

-73 de M0XDF

On 10 Apr 2020, at 23:23, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io <nu1oscar@...> wrote:


I wouldn't put anything made by MFJ inside my K3.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: Mel Marcus <melm@...>
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 6:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Wanted - K3 internal tuner

I did not know mfj made an internal tuner for the k3

Mel
NE9A
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] Wanted - K3 internal tuner
From: "andrew vavra via groups.io" <avavra1@...>
Date: Fri, April 10, 2020 7:39 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

No preference on which one.

Can be from K3 Classic, K3S or MFJ clone version.

Contact me off list at my call sign on the ARRL email reflector ---  @arrl.net

-- Andy, KD3RF

Re: Tranverter

Rick NK7I
 

Or if you remote op while traveling, it’s convenient to keep in touch with your home repeater/s.   Done that too. 

Rick NK7I

Smell Czech corruptions are inevitable

On Apr 10, 2020, at 8:35 PM, Charlie T, k3ICH <pincon@...> wrote:



If you only want an FM box for 2M, then yes, buy a separate radio.

However, if you need SSB/CW for DX and contests, then the internal unit is the only way to go.

 

73, Charlie k3ICH

 

 

 

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Christopher Scibelli via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 7:33 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Tranverter

 

About 3 or 4 years ago I asked an Elecraft employee about adding their internal 2 meter addition to my K3 and he talked me out of it.  He said I'd be better off with a 2 meter mobile rig or even a cheap 2 meter HT.  That was enough to dissuade me as companies don't often knock their own products.  I bought a Yaesu FT-991 on closeout for under a grand that covers HF, 2 meters and 70 CM.  Now I have a backup rig to my K3 and VHF/UHF bands for almost solely repeater use.  I'm glad the employee gave me honest advice. 

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 6:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Tranverter

I have and use the internal 2 meter transverter in the K3S, but didn't know they made any others.  I use it occasionally for 2 meter FM, more for SSB, and also to drive external transverters for 23cm and 3cm.

 

-Bob N3XKB

 

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:18 PM Mel Marcus <melm@...> wrote:

Has anyone used any for the k3 internal transverters ? especially the 220MHZ

Mel
NE9A

Re: Tranverter

Charlie T, k3ICH
 

If you only want an FM box for 2M, then yes, buy a separate radio.

However, if you need SSB/CW for DX and contests, then the internal unit is the only way to go.

 

73, Charlie k3ICH

 

 

 

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Christopher Scibelli via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 7:33 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Tranverter

 

About 3 or 4 years ago I asked an Elecraft employee about adding their internal 2 meter addition to my K3 and he talked me out of it.  He said I'd be better off with a 2 meter mobile rig or even a cheap 2 meter HT.  That was enough to dissuade me as companies don't often knock their own products.  I bought a Yaesu FT-991 on closeout for under a grand that covers HF, 2 meters and 70 CM.  Now I have a backup rig to my K3 and VHF/UHF bands for almost solely repeater use.  I'm glad the employee gave me honest advice. 

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 6:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Tranverter

I have and use the internal 2 meter transverter in the K3S, but didn't know they made any others.  I use it occasionally for 2 meter FM, more for SSB, and also to drive external transverters for 23cm and 3cm.

 

-Bob N3XKB

 

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:18 PM Mel Marcus <melm@...> wrote:

Has anyone used any for the k3 internal transverters ? especially the 220MHZ

Mel
NE9A

Re: Transverter

Charlie T, k3ICH
 

The only internal transverter I know of for the K3 is for 144 MHz.

I have one in mine and it works fine.

 

I wish there WAS one for 220.

I still use my antique µWave Modules 220/28 for that band.

 

 

 

73, Charlie k3ICH

 

 

 

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mel Marcus
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 6:18 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] Tranverter

 

Has anyone used any for the k3 internal transverters ? especially the 220MHZ

Mel
NE9A

Re: Tranverter

redarlington <rdarlington@...>
 

I agree with that advice and yet started that way and went the other direction.  My K3S usually lives in a rack enclosure.  I even machined a custom front panel and got the radio and P3 side by side in the rack (trick was taking off the handle so it fits on the rack shelf).  It's all held down nicely and securely and would survive a trip down the stairs without much worry, and wasn't $350.  I think I'm up to $20, but the shelf was free and I had the scrap PVC plate I used to positively locate the feet.  And Elecraft was awesome and sent me mechanical drawings of the bottom so I didn't even need to measure the spacing on the K3S/P3 feet.

Anyway, being portable and driving microwave transverters, it was useful to me to have one less external box taking up space in the rack.   So mountain top weak signal stuff is pretty easy.  Just drag the trailer for the antennas and everything else fits in the trunk of the Subaru.  


And my QRZ page has a picture of the big 15 foot long 2 meter antenna up.   

I really didn't want a whole separate radio, although I do have a 2 meter all mode rig for dedicated use on the 10GHz dish.

-Bob 


On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 5:32 PM Christopher Scibelli via groups.io <nu1oscar=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About 3 or 4 years ago I asked an Elecraft employee about adding their internal 2 meter addition to my K3 and he talked me out of it.  He said I'd be better off with a 2 meter mobile rig or even a cheap 2 meter HT.  That was enough to dissuade me as companies don't often knock their own products.  I bought a Yaesu FT-991 on closeout for under a grand that covers HF, 2 meters and 70 CM.  Now I have a backup rig to my K3 and VHF/UHF bands for almost solely repeater use.  I'm glad the employee gave me honest advice. 

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 6:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Tranverter

I have and use the internal 2 meter transverter in the K3S, but didn't know they made any others.  I use it occasionally for 2 meter FM, more for SSB, and also to drive external transverters for 23cm and 3cm.

-Bob N3XKB

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:18 PM Mel Marcus <melm@...> wrote:
Has anyone used any for the k3 internal transverters ? especially the 220MHZ

Mel
NE9A

Re: Wanted - K3 internal tuner

N6KR
 

FYI, it doesn’t include the bypass relay we added to the KAT3A. 

Wayne


On Apr 10, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Christopher Scibelli via groups.io <nu1oscar@...> wrote:

I wouldn't put anything made by MFJ inside my K3.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: Mel Marcus <melm@...>
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 6:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Wanted - K3 internal tuner

I did not know mfj made an internal tuner for the k3

Mel
NE9A
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] Wanted - K3 internal tuner
From: "andrew vavra via groups.io" <avavra1@...>
Date: Fri, April 10, 2020 7:39 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

No preference on which one.

Can be from K3 Classic, K3S or MFJ clone version.

Contact me off list at my call sign on the ARRL email reflector ---  @arrl.net

-- Andy, KD3RF

Re: Tranverter

Christopher Scibelli
 

About 3 or 4 years ago I asked an Elecraft employee about adding their internal 2 meter addition to my K3 and he talked me out of it.  He said I'd be better off with a 2 meter mobile rig or even a cheap 2 meter HT.  That was enough to dissuade me as companies don't often knock their own products.  I bought a Yaesu FT-991 on closeout for under a grand that covers HF, 2 meters and 70 CM.  Now I have a backup rig to my K3 and VHF/UHF bands for almost solely repeater use.  I'm glad the employee gave me honest advice. 

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: redarlington <rdarlington@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 6:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Tranverter

I have and use the internal 2 meter transverter in the K3S, but didn't know they made any others.  I use it occasionally for 2 meter FM, more for SSB, and also to drive external transverters for 23cm and 3cm.

-Bob N3XKB

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:18 PM Mel Marcus <melm@...> wrote:
Has anyone used any for the k3 internal transverters ? especially the 220MHZ

Mel
NE9A

Re: Tranverter

redarlington <rdarlington@...>
 

I have and use the internal 2 meter transverter in the K3S, but didn't know they made any others.  I use it occasionally for 2 meter FM, more for SSB, and also to drive external transverters for 23cm and 3cm.

-Bob N3XKB

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:18 PM Mel Marcus <melm@...> wrote:
Has anyone used any for the k3 internal transverters ? especially the 220MHZ

Mel
NE9A

Re: Tranverter

Alan Baker
 

Yes, I have the 144-146 MHz version. Works fine, but could do with more output Watts. Adequate power output for driving an amplifier.

73,

Alan. G4GNX


------ Original Message ------
From: "Mel Marcus" <melm@...>
Sent: 10/04/2020 23:18:17
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] Tranverter

Has anyone used any for the k3 internal transverters ? especially the 220MHZ

Mel
NE9A

Re: Wanted - K3 internal tuner

Christopher Scibelli
 

I wouldn't put anything made by MFJ inside my K3.

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: Mel Marcus <melm@...>
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2020 6:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Wanted - K3 internal tuner

I did not know mfj made an internal tuner for the k3

Mel
NE9A
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] Wanted - K3 internal tuner
From: "andrew vavra via groups.io" <avavra1@...>
Date: Fri, April 10, 2020 7:39 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

No preference on which one.

Can be from K3 Classic, K3S or MFJ clone version.

Contact me off list at my call sign on the ARRL email reflector ---  @arrl.net

-- Andy, KD3RF

Tranverter

Mel Marcus
 

Has anyone used any for the k3 internal transverters ? especially the 220MHZ

Mel
NE9A
Re: Wanted - K3 internal tuner

Mel Marcus
 

I did not know mfj made an internal tuner for the k3

Mel
NE9A

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] Wanted - K3 internal tuner
From: "andrew vavra via groups.io" <avavra1@...>
Date: Fri, April 10, 2020 7:39 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

No preference on which one.

Can be from K3 Classic, K3S or MFJ clone version.

Contact me off list at my call sign on the ARRL email reflector ---  @arrl.net

-- Andy, KD3RF

Re: Txco

Robert W5AJ
 


Mainly did FMT to see what could be done with K3 with human operator reading waterfall screen....
it works & I'm happy about that (that is pretty good key in this hobby, if you ain't happy ah?  change!

maybe some bragging rights in there but the FMT is a NON-ARRL event, no awards to post up on the wall

73 W5AJ


On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:55 AM Christopher Scibelli via groups.io <nu1oscar=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
That is really great but is there a genuine need to be that accurate, or is it mainly for bragging rights?

73,

Chris  NU1O


-----Original Message-----
From: Wes <wes@...>
To: Elecraft-K3 <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Apr 8, 2020 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Txco

I don't see you listed in any recent FMT results, so I wonder about your technique(s).  Mine, which don't include a K3, made it into the top tier in the last FMT.  I was 0.03 Hz high on 80 and 0.01 Hz low on 40.

Wes  N7WS

On 4/8/2020 8:25 AM, Robert W5AJ wrote:
With K3
Old or new style synthesizer

I have frequency measurements better than 1hz in FMTs

No txco used.....

73 W5AJ

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 9:55 AM robert hammond via groups.io <bobatbay=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
A few years ago I bought 2  cheap TCXO's for an FT857, from 2 allegedly different ebay suppliers  in China  Both looked identical on arrival. One worked fine, one was junk - drifted continually. So maybe you should have bought 2 ?

Nowadays, I wouldn't even consider something I knew was made in China when an OEM product is available. Worth paying the extra $  IMO. 

stay safe

73

Bob G4DBW


Wanted - K3 internal tuner

andrew vavra
 

No preference on which one.

Can be from K3 Classic, K3S or MFJ clone version.

Contact me off list at my call sign on the ARRL email reflector ---  @arrl.net

-- Andy, KD3RF
Re: Out Band

N.Munro <norman@...>
 

If you contact them Elecraft they can provide a software patch to enable Tx outside the normal amateur bands.
With the patch enabled, Tx on my K3 is still inhibited between 7.650 and 9.000 MHz. As someone else has pointed out this is probably due to the proximity to the Intermediate Frequency.
73
Norman - GM4KGK
Re: Out Band

southdaleus
 

If you mean 7.6 to 7.7 Mhz then you need to apply the MARS modification which is a firmware obtained from Elecraft you will need to provide a reason, if MARS your MARS call sign.  Also in that region you will need to turn down the power to 12 watts because it is close to the I.F. frequency of the K3.  It won't output using the 100 watt amp.  

73
Dale, K9VUJ
MARS member
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